LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Final Four

What an incredible week in baseball. That Padres vs. Brewers series was full on nail biters and was one roof beam away from likely going to a deciding game five. Meanwhile the Rays smoked the Yankees, who never even had a lead in the three game sweep. The only downside is the Dodgers advancing.

As of this writing, the game between Chicago and Cleveland has yet to start but former Angel and current great guy Jo Adell had a big moment in Game 3.

With Adell on the Guardians and Sean Newcomb and Randall Grichuk on the White Sox there are plenty of former Halos in this series. Due to the TV start times, I doubt many people have seen them, though.

So now we have to hope the Brew Crew can knock off the Blue Crew in the NLCS. On the AL side of things, I’d be happy with any of the surviving teams winning it all.

But, wait, this is an Angels blog. Not much going on around here, but let’s see what I can find.

The decision to retain Jolly and Mozeliak or do a complete front office makeover is far and away the top storyline to follow. Kroenke’s decision on this matter will define the organization’s future.

Whoever is in charge of building the Angels will have plenty of work to do.

The Yankees defensive meltdown in game two highlighted why it is so critical for the Angels to fix their biggest flaw. The Angels team defense was atrocious last season which is why moving Mike Trout to left field is a game changer.

Unfortunately, that means the Angels now need to solve a problem in center field. Do they go with an internal option or explore the weak free agent class?

With the off season under way, the topics to cover are pretty obvious. SI has a recommended calendar for guys like me to follow, but are there really many possible stories to cover other than who is going and who should come in?

Trimming the dead weight off the roster should be pretty easy. Lowe and Heineman have to be non tendered.

Dead weight gone, 100 loss season wrapped up, the next step is to identify the Angels biggest roster holes.

That’s a lot of text without a break. Let’s take a look at Arjun Nimmala’s majestic blast in the AFL.

Nimmala or Neto? Which one is the shortstop of the future. The Angels need to decide on that this off season and either extend Zach Neto or trade him for a haul of talent that will be big league ready about the time Nimmala and the rest of the Pandas are.

Once the front office questions are answered, I think the decisions on Neto and Detmers are critical. Extend or trade. But it must be done now and there really is no wrong answer.

Speaking of the Pandas arriving, Jake Munroe is also doing well in the desert. He looks more and more like an MLB regular. But I think the Angels need to sign a veteran give Munroe more time to develop and I have one in mind.

And in a piece that is guaranteed to make me look stupid next season, I predicted the Angels rotation for 2027.

Keep in mind, I think the team might spend a bit on some bats and bullpen given the fact the rotation is the current strength of the club.

And there are some internal candidates to help the bullpen. Not enough to make the bullpen dominant, but with the right free agent to anchor the unit, the bullpen could conceivably be decent next year.

Second base was a nightmare last season. How can the team patch that hole?

And in real news, legendary scout Bob Fontaine died this week. He was responsible for bringing in all of the greatest players from the Angels golden era at the beginning of the century. He was also a great guy I interviewed when TBW wrote a book about him. I’ve read the book and it was enjoyable.

Tributes poured in from across the baseball world. They were well deserved.

If there’s one thing I really learned this year with all the access my credential allowed is just how many people work behind the scenes at the Angels. People you do not see on TV or know exist but they all contribute to the team in some way and the vast majority are great and love what they do for a living. Bob was one of those people when the Angels were on top of the baseball world.

Enjoy your weekend and link what I missed. I will be cornering a fight in Long Beach helping my charge exact revenge from a split decision loss earlier in his career. I’m so proud of how far the kid has come the last two years and I’m excited to see him get his hand raised in the center of the ring.

Outside of that it will be family time with playoff baseball on TV.

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EHC
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EHC
24 minutes ago

Regarding the next manger: I have long complained the Angels have no juice, no fight, no attitude. Really, who has been their emotional leader these last few years? No one. (My biggest gripe about Trout is he is so blah most of the time.)

If the players won’t show some passion, fight, intensity (call it what you want) I say get a manager who can light the fuse when needed. Get kicked out. Stand up for a player. Or yes, go after the other team when Trout gets yet another fast ball up-and-in!

Boone? Maybe. I am sure there are others who fit my criteria.

Aww_Yeah
Member
33 minutes ago

Jeff, I read your new Detmers article right away.
Good comparisons and baseline for predicting an extension.

Just a note, that there were a few weird errors in there. Under Bradish’s picture, his contract details seem off. And there were a couple of sentences that seemed to be cut off. Or maybe it is just my browser.

RexFregosi
Legend
2 hours ago

How about Aaron Boone as manager?

besides the FO situation, the biggest hole to fix is manager.

no more rookie managers that are wet behind the ears.

Pat Murphy spent 25 seasons as a college head coach and 5 seasons managing in the minor leagues, BEFORE getting a year with the Padres.

Last edited 2 hours ago by RexFregosi
toad2065
Trusted Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

No thank you.

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  toad2065

I’m curious. Why not him?

2pints
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

F it, I say bring back Sosh

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I would hire Dan Wilson. Alex Cora is a really good manager even though nobody here likes him because he’s from the Astros.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
42 minutes ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

To me – it’s all about someone who buys into what the organization is doing. Have no idea who that person is – but we need a cohesive way of doing things. So get the admin side right first – then let that person choose their guy.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
39 minutes ago

I think this is the correct answer. Until ownership changes, or is given the authority to make decisions, we’ll have to wait until we have the plan and then find the guy to go with that plan. Hey, I think I just said what you said!

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
40 minutes ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I don’t have a problem with Aaron Boone as a manager (other than he’s with the MFY), but he doesn’t have experience managing a rebuilding team, so I wonder if he’d take that position. Maybe somebody like Buck Showalter would be better for this team.

Pineapple12
Legend
3 hours ago

I find it interesting that Neto is consistently excellent wRISP.

2026
139 PA — .297 / .396 / .517

2025
107 PA — .287 / .381 / .471

2024
137 PA — .288 / .398 / .495

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

But but but I was told that he is a selfish meathead that only swings hard with his eyes closed.

FungoAle
Legend
3 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Have you ever seen him sacrifice his long stroke just to try to move the runner over to 3rd?

Pineapple12
Legend
3 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Doesn’t happen often, usually only by accident haha. With his numbers he should always be looking to do damage in these situations.

I feel like he does adjust his approach with runners on.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I would say so. Three years of data shows that he hits for significantly better average with RISP. That’s not an accident.

FungoAle
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Good. Would like to see him hunt pitches more. 200Ks is harmful. Selfish would be the wrong term to use, I think his Achilles is cerebral related. Better focus and intensity is wanted. The Angels getting Nimmala might have sparked him.

Last edited 1 hour ago by FungoAle
milehigh
Trusted Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I can imagine telling Neto to go right if that is all he gets from the pitcher, but I wouldn’t tell him to just move a runner to third. That’s just a waste of a AB. He’s the RBI guy. I want him to hit the ball hard and get that runner home.

Last edited 1 hour ago by milehigh
PedroCerrano
Super Member
28 minutes ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

That is interesting and I wouldn’t have guessed that.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

DUMPSTER TIME BABY!

Si si! At 3B I agree that Edmundo Sosa could be a useful stopgap. Failing him I think Ramon Urias could also fit that bill. Sosa’s got a tiny bit more pop and can verge into Alberto Callaspo territory of value. Neither guy will hurt you on defense.

I feel the same way about Ahmed Rosario at 2B and Dylan Moore… everywhere but 1B/CF. Defensively he doesn’t hurt you anywhere, he’s got a .720 OPS career against lefties… it’s meh but it keeps Christian Moore in SLC.

In CF and OF in general I’d mixed bag stuff a bit. You’ve got Trout, Meckler. Both have glaring situations you can’t use them in. I’d just throw everything I can at the wall. Get Moore time in LF in SLC. You’ve still got Teodosio hanging around, maybe he will finally hit a little? Maybe get Rada into this mix. PLUS! Trash! Go bring Mike Tauchman to Tempe. He can survive all over the outfield and has almost no career splits against pitchers. Go get Alek Thomas to be a good CF that can’t hit. I liked Jeff’s old idea of getting Ramon Laureano.

OF, along with the bullpen, is also where I think the “we get 2nd crack at waiver wire/Rule 5 cast offs” will come in handy maybe.

Man. We need to trade Detmers and Neto. We’ve still got so many holes to fill and not enough kids. We need more guys who look like players and will be MLB ready in the next two years or we are gonna be the Rangers.

steelgolf
Legend
3 hours ago

Unfortunately, this team isn’t even good enough to be The Rangers. I will be writing my “Should I Stay or Should I Go” piece, maybe start this weekend. But here is a hint : Trout is a DH. Now and then take a game in Left Field to give my LF a game off.

BruinsAngelsKings
Super Member
6 hours ago

So what’s the consensus from the people who are actually plugged in (looking at you, Turks Teeth)? Is Christian Moore already looking like a guy who doesn’t really fit anywhere with the Angels long term? I know it’s early, but what about Bremner? Does he still look like a future rotation piece, or are there questions starting to pop up there as well?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Bremner is too early. Moore…. we tend to forget the guy’s played two full seasons. He had a .943 OPS in SLC. Though, yes, that is in SLC. He’s still got serious holes at the plate, looked completely lost against MLB pitchers at the end of this year, and needs a position on defense.

But he’s also just finished his second full year of pro ball. I’m not even sure why they are so fired up to get him in front of MLB pitching so he can get his dick punched in. He could literally spend all of 2027 in the minors and it would be OK.

CMo is EXACTLY why we need coaching/development. There is very little point in him hanging out at high altitude murdering the less talented pitchers that live in the PCL. There is a lot of value if he is hanging out in SLC working with instructors on specific things… and working on defense too. I don’t care if his OPS is .950. I care if he learns to not attack pitches down and away and pull his head out when he swings too hard. If we see his actual skills get better it’d be awesome.

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

To do that he would have to pass waivers, correct? If so, I’m willing to risk it. If he is picked up and turned into an every day player then good for him. If he is not picked up then I guess no one wants to spend the time with him.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  milehigh

Moore still has options

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
7 hours ago

We need to unfortunately tread water until the Trash Pandas are ready.

Texan44
Trusted Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I see no need for expensive contracts but it would be nice to look at some one-two year deals. If I have to watch another year of this terrible defense and unlimited Ks at the plate, I will need to hide all the sharp objects in my home.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  Texan44

You may have to hide all the sharp objects for a while. Best case is probably 2028 and the Trash Pandas will bee rookies. We’ll still have to add a 2B, CF, and maybe a 1B and another OF.

Texan44
Trusted Member
Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

but I don’t want to turn into the A’s that kept trading away their good players and never competed.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago

Agreed, but this is a one time deal to reset the club.

Aww_Yeah
Member
1 hour ago

That’s a good point.
But a separate issue.

I think we must do those trades if we want to get out of our decade-long cycle and turn this team around.

But making sure we get the right players in these trades is the next step. We hope that whoever is in charge does a good job with this. That would apparently be where the A’s went wrong. More Soriano return and less Silseth return.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
24 minutes ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Agreed

MarineLayer
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Why don’t we just promote the Trash Pandas and relegate the major league team, while keeping Urena and Detmers on the MLB roster, and trade Neto if we can get a haul..

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
7 hours ago

Great stuff. I’m not aware of a 2B option in the Angels Farm System so they need to pursue a long term permanent option. They could acquire a AA option and a placeholder until the AA option is ready.

Texan44
Trusted Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

When I read the links, and actually think realistically about the Angels, I can see trading all but Trout. That probably leads to a couple agonizing seasons or more, but it might actually be the fastest way to being competitive.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

How far away is he?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Thanks. Need someone for a couple of years

PedroCerrano
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Neto would make for a solid second base option if his prides allows it. Nimmala is knocking.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

And if Neto won’t move to 2B, that argues for trading him.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

I agree. His swing for the fences approach without much consideration of the game situation have me questioning his fit and mindset. Is he a guy that will help a team win?

The Brewers and Rays are both great examples of teams where the whole is greater than the parts because guys are willing to do the little things and put in the work.

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

Lead the team in HR, RBI, Runs (by far), Hits (by far). The D can improve but I don’t think we can say he doesn’t try and make his team win.

I think comparing this team with two annually very good teams isn’t the right approach. There is probably 25 other teams that don’t compare well to those two teams.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
13 minutes ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’m only sure of one thing and that is that I lack perspective. It’s hard to know how someone is wired and I probably suffer from the old guy affliction in thinking that striking out so much equates to a selfish player. Can Neto be had for 6yr/$150MM? If so, the team would be smart to float that possibility to him first.

FWIW: When I vent during games about guys swinging too hard my wife likes to point out that I “always swung too hard” and came home with bruised kneecaps, ala Reggie Jackson quite often. Teammates started calling me Pedro when the movie came out. “Pedro no like ball that bend”

toad2065
Trusted Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

We have shortstops in the system who could convert to 2B.

milehigh
Trusted Member
6 seconds ago
Reply to  toad2065

Maybe, but 3 to 5 years out.

Pineapple12
Legend
8 hours ago

Jo Adell in his first playoff series —
18 PA
.267 / .389 / .533
2 triples
6 RBI
3 walks
8 strikeouts

White Sox have been a great story but they’ve run out of pitching. The Guardians are always a tough out in October and I expect JRam and Jo to carry them to TB.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

and 6 of those 8 strikeouts came in his first 7 at-bats..

Texan44
Trusted Member
8 hours ago

Man JJ. I was enjoying your article so much. Then I got down to “The KSE Clean Slate” – you threw in a curve that I hope doesn’t happen. At my age, I don’t like anything that adds a year or more.

Last edited 8 hours ago by Texan44
HalosFanForLife
Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  Texan44

I think I’d wait a year if it means the right upper management. This selection is going to have more bearing on the future than who is selected first with those extra ping pong balls. And there are a lot of people who could get it done. We unfortunately won’t know for a while if Kroenke makes the right choice. This overhaul is about optimizing the organization from top to bottom – to find the right players, develop the right players, pay the right players the right amount, and building a cohesive winning culture. They need a true leader that can pull this off without the big ego to get in the way.

Last edited 7 hours ago by HalosFanForLife
HalosFanForLife
Super Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

That going to be a cool series Jeff. Love the idea.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
9 hours ago

Is there a link for the Angels 2027 rotation article?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I like it.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Great article. It would be interesting to see the team option Grayrod to the minors. I’m not sure that has much of a chance of really happening, but it would probably be for the best until he can get his command back.

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