LA Angels Weekend News Crash: What A Week!

It was a pretty hectic week around baseball with 9 teams leaving their local TV carriers, arbitration figures exchanged, players locked in, and a huge trade. As you know, I’m now running Angels On SI so be prepared for lots of links there. But there are no comments on SI so I really want to see how this die hard community responds to what I’m writing.

First up, the Angels joined 8 other MLB franchises in saying goodbye to Main Street Sports Group. Where this leaves the local broadcasts and the money they generate is as of yet unknown. But I can’t imagine it is good for the Angels bottom line.

At the time that announcement broke, so did two others saying Zach Neto and Logan O’Hoppe agreed to terms for their 2026 pay.

Earlier in the week, the Angels confirmed the Kirby Yates signing. Yates was a beast in 2024 with Texas and could be a really good weapon now that he’s reunited with pitching coach Mike Maddux.

Continuing to add depth, Esperanza High product Wade Meckler was claimed off waivers from the Giants. Meckler is a really interesting prospect who should get a shot to earn a job in Tempe.

Center field is still wide open it appears. Maybe Nelson Rada gets a shot. I’ve been down on a Harrison Bader signing, but I took a deeper look and Bader actually fits perfectly on this team.

You know who else I want on this team? Willi Castro. Take a gander here and see if you agree.

Another interesting story in Tempe will be the young arms. Walbert Urena took some big strides forward in 2025 and is likely on the brink of an MLB spot. Urena flashes some nasty stuff at times. I’m interested to see what Maddux can do with him.

The fun part about writing this series throughout the day is news breaks and I can still add it. Did I say the Angels signed Neto and O’Hoppe? I meant to say they wrapped up almost all of their arbitration class.

The club and Reid Detmers are $300k apart so we shall see if they go to a hearing or find a middle ground.

I have to think that each side laying their numbers on the table makes it really easy to reach a deal. Like imagine if I’m selling a house and I tell you a number the seller is willing to take. If we’re close, we’re closing that deal.

One deal that won’t get closed without a significant change in posture is between the Tigers and Tarik Skubal. They are currently $13 million apart. Detroit offered a lowball $19 million for the back to back Cy Young winner who countered with $32 million.

There’s so much arbitration stuff I could fill several pages. The best resource by far is MLBTR’s arbitration tracker.

Getting back to the Angels, and getting more mileage out of pieces I’ve already published, I looked this week at the overall state of the Angels and pondered if Arte is poised to sell the team.

Okamoto broke my heart and signed with Toronto. Now that the Angels missed out on him, who might play third base next year?

Vaughn Grissom was brought in to hopefully play some position on the infield. Likely second base, perhaps utility. He brings upside but questions marks as well.

And did I mention a big trade? The Cubs acquired Edward Cabrera from Miami in exchange for Owen Cassie and some prospects. Don’t laugh, but the Marlins might have the best young outfield in all of baseball. Kyle Stowers put up 3.6 bWAR in left last year and newcomer Jakob Marsee added another 1.9 bWAR in only 55 games. If Cassie has the power he’s supposed to have, that is a dynamic outfield behind a great young pitching staff that is about to be aided by some great young arms.

So there you have it. TV deal madness. Arbitration money going everywhere. And a huge trade.

Enjoy your weekend and link what I missed. I’m working Saturday but plan on taking my first day off of 2026 on Sunday. The On SI gig is great but demands a lot more posts than CtPG so feel free to look over there from time to time.

All in all, I’m counting down the days until my Spring Training trip and just really enjoying this stage with my son. They are all great stages and I’ve enjoyed each in different ways. Getting to spend a full day with him and my wife is going to be great.

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Marcotor
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3 hours ago

What I don’t understand, and maybe need to be lectured to like a child, is if Arte said pubicly that the Angels were set to “lose $50-60 million” in 2025, why any fiscally responisble company would consider pissing even more money down the hole that is the Angels?

To make US feel better about our fandom?

Now please explain to me why there is “plenty of money” for Arte to buy all the ponies he wants based on what you think you know. Sure, he’s a billionaire but why should he shovel money from his truck into the team to make us feel better? Disney never did. The Beloved Cowboy knew the value of a dollar, and never actually “opened his saddlebags” to sign a player, altho it is a hokey and cute metaphor. In fact, his banker Jackie “Small Market” was all for contracting the Angels, lest they take Gene’s fortune away from her.

Even Bob Nutting was poised to lose money this season according to a piece over on DK Pittsburg Sports.

Last edited 2 hours ago by Marcotor
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Marcotor

If you put a shitty product on the field, it’s going to be very difficult to turn a profit.

steelgolf
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34 minutes ago
Reply to  Marcotor

That’s why I offloaded everyone of value in my IIWPM. The new TV deal could very easily be half of what his past deal was. Those TV money streams pay for player contracts, and now that is in limbo.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
4 hours ago

Looking at this lineup – I think we gave up on Baldoquin too early.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
5 hours ago

Fanatics is punking Halos fans. This price is real and sonis the write-up.

I figured the Rendon shirts would be around $11 by now. I was thinking of being Rendon for next Halloween. I would wear the shirt and have neck, arm and leg braces.

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CAoldskoll
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5 hours ago

They are selling that exact Rendone shirt for $5 at Sports Treasures in the Lakewood mall. Also have Thor and Walsh at that price too.

SD19
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4 hours ago

Dang that was a rip off long ago. All proceeds should go to injury rehab centers

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AngelsFanInHell
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5 hours ago

Mr. Joiner – Thank you for your contributions here and on SI. I rarely have kept track of the offseason, but your writing has kept me engaged.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Good.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

“sell Mortimer, sell!”

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
6 hours ago

Bader, Bader, Bader. Look what you triggered today Jeff. Here comes an article about it by another blog.

Last edited 6 hours ago by HalosFanForLife
AnAngelsFan
Super Member
6 hours ago

Look at the hair on Bader. He needs to be on a team that is close to the beach.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Here’s a nice dumpster to dive. Ji Hwan Bae bats lefty and can play 2B/CF. Pretty much even split between those positions in the minors with an .819 OPS and 130 SB.

Max Kepler…. 80 game PED suspension, so clearly not on my list of possible help this winter any more….

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Actually, Braves trash Brett Wisely fits on the AAAA menu too. Both these guys would be worth bringing to ST along with Moore and Grissom.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

The Marlins. Yet another team that has been to the play offs recently, crashed to earth, and rebuilt. Already. They don’t reload.

Cassie is the latest piece, but they are sneaky solid. Everyone knows that if their young pitchers all switch on at once they are scary. Kind of like the Pirates, their issue is offense. But unlike the Pirates, they have a lot to bet on.

There is that outfield of course. They are a gamble, but a solid one. Another thing they have going for them is general baseball skills. They were not highly ranked defensively last year, but they went through A LOT of players. What they do have is guys like Liam Hicks and Graham Pauley on the roster. Who? Exactly. These are guys who just don’t hit enough, especially slug enough, to start. But they have OBPs over .300 and cover catcher and the entire infield with fairly solid defense. Between the two of them they pooped out 2 WAR. That’s not impressive. But it’s also not the huge drop off you get when say an Angels bench piece has to play. The same holds true for CF Derek Hill and IF/OF Javier Sanoja. Their OBPs are lower. But they are EXACTLY what a bench piece should look like. Solid defense. Fairly fast. Play multiple positions. OPS+ under 100. Hill needs to hit a little better. But point is, even those two sad sacks had a 2.3 WAR. Infielder Connor Norby is also on this list of positive meh.

So they don’t have a massive drop off when their line up has to shuffle a bit.

They also have a huge pile of “what if/maybe good” in the rest of the line up. Maybe the change in scenery brings Christopher Morel back to positive WAR. Xavier Edwards and Otto Lopez combined for 6.7 WAR last year up the middle in the infield. Both had sub 100 OPS+. If both managed to crack 100 they’d basically be two Netos.Heriberto Hernandez is a man so ugly he’s got to be good at DH. He had a positive 116 OPS+ and 0.9 WAR in 256 ABs. He has power and takes walks but his BA is likely to slip, but he is still useful.

This is a team that could really stand to just add one or two veterans with pop who can play corner IF and DH some. Rhys Hoskins or Wilmer Flores or Paul Goldschmidt at 1B. Suarez would be a dream for them at 3B, but Yoan Moncada is a good fit for them. Just add a little more threat to the line up around Stowers/Cassie.

Prospects wise they have Cassie coming in the OF and Joe Mack at catcher. Mack is more likely to have an impact than our Nelson Rada. They also have two looming power sources in Deyvison De Los Santos and Kemp Alderman. Both are more Willie Mo Pena than anything right now and chase lots of pitches, some of which bounce off the back wall of the stadium. But if either gets their chase rate under some control they will add power in a Trumbo sort of way. Maximo Acosta is an MLB ready SS with contact skills who may be useful depth this year. Their system isn’t great, but it looks a lot like ours if a bunch of pitchers have graduated and we’d drafted some position players lately with guys like Starlyn Caba, Aiva Arquette, Max Williams, Cam Canarella, Dillon Head, Brandon Compton and dark horse OF prospect Fenwick Trimble in the lower system.

The Marlins are the ant-A’s. The A’s look almost ready if they just get some pitching to go with all that offensive spice. The Marlins have a ton of pitching and just need some runs.

They are mired in a division with Philly, the Mets and Atlanta. But they are still way ahead of the Angels as a hopium producer.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
10 hours ago

Well, let’s not suck their Marlin d*cks just yet.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Do Marlins even have those?

Asking for a friend

Charles Sutton
Editor
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5 hours ago

Just spilt milt.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Charles Sutton

HEYOOOO!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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No, marlins don’t have a penis; like most bony fish, they reproduce through external fertilization, where females release eggs (roe) into the water, and males release sperm (milt) to fertilize them, a process called broadcast spawning, not internal mating with a penis. While some fish have modified fins for internal sperm transfer (like sharks’ claspers) or unique sex organs, marlins rely on releasing sperm and eggs into the open ocean for fertilization.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
11 hours ago

Just putting this out there, if it hasn’t already been put out there… Kyren is evidently spending his winter trying to figure out third base in Mexico…

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=paris-000kyr

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

That is the real issue for sure.

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 hours ago

Sounds great to me, but sounds like the Angels will acquire some sort of 3b. Yoan would be ok.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

That’s cool. Good effort.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
9 hours ago

Let’s hope he dumped that HeLP swing bullshit.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
11 hours ago

A question to ponder – if we play as bad as the analysts tell us we’ll be, does Perry make it through the season?

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
11 hours ago

I’ll go first. No.

steelgolf
Legend
10 hours ago

Yes. He is under contract through the season, most likely a lockout / strike next season, so no baseball, and a very large looming problem in regards to TV revenue, including how much and from whom. Replacing Perry just costs Arte more money, whereas, if he is around he is a barrier between Arte and the media.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
10 hours ago

Yes, Perry survives the season.

First, he’ll can Suzuki before the axe falls on him.

Secondly, Arte is banking on a work stoppage in 2027. No sense paying severance when the work stoppage will wipe the slate clean.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
10 hours ago

Will the work stoppage freeze management pay? I just think Arte will want a fall guy.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Yep. I think Arte is waiting for the bombs to drop and the ground to cool. I get that, it’s not the dumbest plan. Perry can keep getting paid to go out and try to make statements that make it sound like things are happening. This will either fool some dumb fans, or more likely piss off a lot of the dimmer fans who expect an FO mouth piece to come out and light sticks of truth dynamite when they talk to the press for some reason.

My realistic dream is that, while baseball sleeps through the labor issues, Perry at least steals a march on a rebuild. You don’t even have to admit it’s not a reload because baseball isn’t happening.

Pay Maddox a fortune to stick around. Hire other development help. Trade everything we can for prospects. Draft college position players in this next draft. Cultivate the farm at max effort while the pros are taking zoom meetings on beaches.

If Perry plays bullet catcher and does some of that farm stuff and then gets canned when the MLB gets going again… cool, then he can go off to some other team and likely kick us all in the dick for a decade.

MarineLayer
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9 hours ago

In the beginning, I always thought of Minasian as Arturo’s useful idiot.

Over time, I’ve come to realize that he is actually quite a jerk (the most polite word I could think of) as well. In addition to not doing his job very well (which I define as making the team better, which includes planning for the future within the constraints of Arturo), his snarky performances at the rare press encounters he reluctantly acquieses to are really appalling. For example, his “explanation” of the Redone maths was condescending and uninformative at the same time. His vague comments about the plans for 2026 and beyond were hilarious, he’s acting like disguising what they’re doing. Everybody knows, Minasian.

I do agree from Arturo’s perspective that Minasian will keep his job until after the lockout is over to save money. I am fine if he kicks us in the dick when he gets canned. It is a low-probability outcome I’m more than willing to live with.

steelgolf
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8 hours ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

He may not be around for the lockout as his contract expires this year.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

You’re totally o to him SteveDave. Stay angry.

MarineLayer
Legend
3 hours ago

Not anger. Just want to get better.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
5 hours ago

The key to actually rebuilding is the trading of players which has not happened. I’ll believe that part when I see it.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
11 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

We’re talking about Willi Castro? Lifetime 4 WAR guy? .700 OPS on the high end?

If so, how do you figure? Seems like so much utility meat. Bader at least has proven he’s capable of an impact season (though unlikely he’ll replicate).

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The Angels. We have no floor. So raising the floor would be nice. But we hate raising the floor.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I know we have little to no options for improved production, but it’s stark that we’re looking at a player 5% worse than “average” as the best option.

Oye.

Pineapple12
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11 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I personally enjoyed your Walbert Urena piece the most 😇.

TBW and TT are convinced Wally ends up in the bullpen, but he’s still so young and has shown an ability to keep his velo up deeper in games. My favorite prospect behind Bremner.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Can we talk about out pitches? The lack of one is a complaint I’ve seen pinned to Dana, too. What does it mean exactly? I kind of translate it as an above-average secondary pitch that compliments a given pitcher’s primary/dominant pitch, thrown in two-strike situations when the batter might be expecting the latter?

I mean, it can’t just mean a single/dominant swing-and-miss pitch, right? Urena already has that with the 100-MPH two-seamer. Caden also has it, with the 60-grade slider. I think some of his struggles last year came because he was trying to develop the change-up as his out pitch, throwing it more often. He actually had a few good starts at the end of last season. Most around here talk (or don’t talk) about him like he’s already been sent to the morgue, but I guarantee you the Halos don’t… still has upside.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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The easiest way to think about it in the way evaluators think about it is “does this guy have a pitch that statistically shows that hitters whiff on it very often or at least hit into an out very often”. If so, that is an out pitch. If hitters generally don’t crush a couple of your other pitch options the first two times through the order and then you have that “out pitch” then congrats, you are a starter prospect.

So a high fastball can be an out pitch. But only if the slider and change up or what ever are also solid. A guy like Dana has a problem because his slider is very good…. and every MLB hitter knows it and either looks for it or more likely lays off it and waits for his shakier pitches. Over 90 pitches that becomes a situation where Dana gives up a few really costly at bats.

You may see prospect evals that talk about a young pitcher learning to “trust” a pitch? That means he needs to be able to throw said pitch in situations he’d normally just default to his big “out pitch”. You need a starter to be able to say “I’m not even gonna show this guy my slider till we really want to get him” and survive.

A reliever on the other hand can just go out and throw 20 pitches of out pitch/not out pitch and get by a lot easier. The Angels have a ton of guys in that boat right now.

This is why I advocate for Pitching Chaos all the time.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Pineapple12

TBW and TT are right. Till they are wrong. All they are doing is telling people what is currently the case, which is what they should do. And none of those guys whose prospect evals I pay attention to have much ego in it.

If a hitter suddenly increases his contract rate they change their mind about him. Like so many have about Joshua Baez this year. If Walbert holds up as a starter this season they will likely revise their take on him according to the new and larger facts at hand.

I’ve said it before. All systems, including ours, have about a dozen guys who are one major adjustment from going from a 40 prospect to a 50. Most will not make those adjustments because they are really hard. But there is always some 22 year old who develops a splitter or a guy who makes weak contact on the ground but puts on 15lbs of muscle and starts hitting it in the air.

The evaluators generally catch that and modify their thoughts accordingly.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’m actually not 100% convinced of this. I think Urena has more of a starter path than others in the system. When the MiLB season concluded last year, I said I’d probably move most in the pipeline toward the bullpen sooner rather than later, but continue to give Urena and Johnson some rope, given age and results.

I think Urena would be quicker to the show via relief, but at 21 yo, he has more time to stretch out than others – I’d give him and Bremner adequate time to thrive.

I still think he’s more likely a reliever in the end, but it’s not a non-zero chance he figures it out, and I’d give him more likelihood to do so than Cortez, Shores, Hurtado, et al.

jco
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jco
7 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’ve got nothing against Castro and I’d rather have him than Peraza I guess, but my concern is that if the Angels get him, then they will just rely on a combination of Grissom, Moore, Castro, and Peraza to handle both 2B and 3B (and Util). I’d rather get someone better for 3B and then go from there to see if Moore or Grissom can cement the 2B slot.

The Angels roster is just terribly constructed in order to fit Castro and hopefully a real CF and a real 3B or 2B. They could DFA Peraza I guess and hope he gets through waivers. Soler’s presence on the roster makes the construction of the team so much harder. That was such an ill-advised trade.

BannedInLA
Super Member
12 hours ago

A Bader signing would allow us to employ an OF troika of Meckler, Bader & Adell (RF), with Trout & TBD rounding it out.

That would be a vastly superior defensive alignment to what we featured last year. Prior to Teo being called up, we were rolling with Ward (LF), Adell (CF) and Soler (RF) for about a month. Yikes.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
11 hours ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Meckler? Oh yeah man. No power, no speed 26-year-old with 50 career ML at bats. Definitely our starting LFer.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
11 hours ago

no speed? lol. C’mon

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  cookmeister

Middling speed then? 35 bags in 1,000+ PAs does not great wheels make.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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It’s difficult to project Meckler as a big league regular unless he makes some adjustments to find more power, but he offers value beyond being a contact hitter. He has well-above-average speed but he’s somewhat conservative as a basestealer

cookmeister
Trusted Member
9 hours ago

he’s 95th percentile in sprint speed. lol

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 hours ago

His scouting report indicates “Plus Speed”. There could be numerous reasons why he doesn’t have high SB totals thus far.

Prior to all the injuries, Trout had “plus speed” but didn’t steal as many bases in some seasons as his speed would suggest.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
8 hours ago

70 grade speed.

Whether he’s given the greenlight on the bases is often a managerial decision, and Meckler has been notably tentative on the basepaths. But it’s not due to lack of footspeed – he’s among the speediest outfielders in the minor leagues.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

So slow. Got it.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Stand corrected! Still not bullish on him as a starter.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
3 hours ago

Nor I – kind of a fifth outfielder profile, but cheap, and worth a flier in the absence of something real.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  BannedInLA

But… so much less than moar of dingerz?

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 hours ago

Call me strange
but, I love the dynamic that contact hitting & speed brings to the game. It puts pressure on the opposing battery, forces them to throw more fastballs with a man that can run at 1st base.

More 1st to 3rd on singles. More 2nd to home (as opposed to watching Schanny get easily gunned down at Home)

etc etc etc

High contact & foot speed definitely mitigate batting slumps.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  BannedInLA

No. Dingerz. Who I watch dingerz?

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
15 hours ago

So grateful you’re still here. A nice combination with you posting here with links to your SI articles and you still being engaged. Us bloviates will still get to pontificate with your consistently great writing.

In regards to Bader – I think on paper he looks great for this team too. He’s a rat. He plays hard. But here’s what scares me. 7 teams in 8 years. Why are teams not keeping him? That would be my big question to answer. Sportrac has him at $20 million for 2 years which seems like an absolute bargain based on last seasons 3.2 bWAR. What gives? Something seems fishy. When O’Neil Cruz hits free agency – I don’t think there will be a lot of bidders. Yes he has highlight reels, but way too many lowlight plays too. That would be my big question.

BannedInLA
Super Member
12 hours ago

The issue with Bader is that he’s probably better suited as a 4th OF on a good team rather than a front line piece.

He’s a career .247 / .313 player with limited power and an excellent glove.

On the Angels, a very bad team, he becomes one of our 5 best players.

steelgolf
Legend
11 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

This would also mean that Soler DH’s more than I like.

Pineapple12
Legend
12 hours ago

How much do you trust Bader’s bat? Historically, he’s a 3+ WAR player when his OPS+ is greater than 105, and a 1 WAR player when his OPS+ is lower than 86.

2018 = 106 OPS+ (427 PA)
2019 = 80 OPS+ (406 PA)
2021 = 114 OPS+ (401 PA)
2022 = 85 OPS+ (313 PA)
2023 = 69 OPS+ (344 PA)
2024 = 86 OPS+ (437 PA)
2025 = 117 OPS+ (501 PA)

Paying a 32 year old coming off his best season in a contract year should always be met with trepidation. I like Bader a lot too — fiery competitor and a fellow Jew. My offer would be 2 years, $26 million.

Last edited 12 hours ago by Pineapple12
BannedInLA
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

No one is “trusting his bat” because he’s a below average hitter for the position. This is why he’s available.

That said, for the Angels, he’s an upgrade on an otherwise bad team.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

It does make too much sense. Let me look past his multiple teams and assume there is no character issue. What Sportrac is posting seems like a no brainer for the Angels. It fits so well and a fair number after his season last year. I have to think his agent is pushing for more than $20MM over two years and that and he’ll likely get it. The free agency price for position players is around $8MM. Much cheaper wins than going after starting pitching at $11MM a win. But unless we went crazy like a Dodgers, Yankees or Blue Jays, we’re still going to be in the draft lottery next year. MLB Power Ratings came out and we’re just ahead of the Rockies as the second to worst team. That’s how far we have tumbled.

BannedInLA
Super Member
11 hours ago

Yeah, the OF grouping of Anderson, Erstad & Salmon or prime Trout, Calhoun & Hunter are a distant memory.

I suppose we’ll have to settle for defensive competence and a bit more speed. Shrug.

Bader is the proverbial “always a bridesmaid” that good teams will always seek to upgrade if possible.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  BannedInLA

I wouldn’t mind being “stuck” with Bader because he can start in CF but will also be useful anywhere else on the grass if we trade Adell or Rada comes up and is good. He gives us options.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 hours ago

At worst he’s a 4th OF and I’ll throw in the obligatory, “if he performs well before the break, we can flip him for moar prozpekz”…

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  BannedInLA

MOAR KIDZ!!!

BannedInLA
Super Member
6 hours ago

You’ve pretty much sold me on the concept of tearing this thing down 100% and starting over.

Zach Neto’s value likely never be higher than it is now. Particularly given his salary/controllable years. Cash that slip in now.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I like watching him play too much. We’ve finally got an All Star level SS. Hopefully he gets his notice soon.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Funny, I like watching the Tigers, Brewers and Reds play.

Would you rather watch Neto play on the current Angels team or have a future Angels team that is more like those other teams?

This is the dilemma. I love me some Big Papa. But I don’t think the org stops living at the end of the human centipede till we trade some players I love.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
5 hours ago

I’d definitely still watch him wherever he’d go. I watch Ke’Bryan Hayes and Andres Gimenez all the time too and not a fan of either team. I’ve watched so many of Arenado’s plays over the years too. But it’s sure nice to have it on the Angels while watching my team. But yes. I want to win and I’d take nothing off the table. I did like watching Simmons too, but I just love Neto’s engine so much – it’s just different. He reminds me of Pedroia but at short.

Last edited 5 hours ago by HalosFanForLife
HalosFanForLife
Super Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Here are some position player numbers. As a team – we were minus 45. Which if you take 10 runs for a win basically means we lost 4 to 5 games simply because of defense. 

O’Hoppe -10
d’Arnaud -4
Nolan Schanuel -5
Christian Moore -3
Rengifo 0
Neto +13 (Ranked 22) Only Mookie and Seager better at SS
Trout -3
Ward -3 
Adell -14
Soler -5
Paris +3
Teodosio +7
Peraza +4
Anderson +2

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
9 hours ago

Taylor Walls also ranked ahead of Neto with a +16.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

That’s a win. Pun intended.

I like him on paper for sure at the $10mm x 2. My only concern – which needs to be explored and answered is the 7 teams already. The value is there. We just aren’t picking up additional 20 wins. But I love me some defense and would enjoy watching him do that. Not promising I wouldn’t be swearing at the screen when he’s up though.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I like the idea of defense being solid to help our young pitchers NOT try to K every MLB hitter they see.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
7 hours ago

I really like this point.

BannedInLA
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

If only Teo could at least hit his body weight. I love watching that gazelle roam the OF.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  BannedInLA

A future OF of Meckler/Teo/Rada…. if they all just manage to hit .270 with 10HR power it would make this team FUN.

Oh fantasies…..

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