LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Kids!

Maybe they should just play all their games on the road? The Angels wrapped up a 3 and 3 road trip that should have been 4 and 2. Fortunately, the series win came against the loathed Red Sox.

While there were plenty of highlights from Fenway, I’m going with Reid Detmers earning an extra inning save on Tuesday night as my Highlight of the Week.

Reid has had a rough year but had kept fighting. Lately his fastball has looked explosive and his confidence is evident. In fact, his recent run of success has many fans and pundits wondering if he should rejoin the rotation?

I’m not in Detmers head, but I’m not sure I’d slot him back in the rotation just yet. He seems to have finally adopted a “grip it and rip it” type mentality which shows in his increased fastball velocity. He’s simply going batter by batter right now and not worrying about pitch sequencing or getting deeper into a game. Maybe we let that seep a little deeper into his psyche before asking him to go through the order multiple times.

That tweet links to Jeff Fletcher’s article on the subject and I highly recommend it.

With 102 game still to go, the team has time to continue developing Detmers at the MLB level. Through 60 games, the Angels are 28-32 which should look pretty familiar.

Being 4 games under .500 in a clear rebuilding year isn’t bad. In fact, it is a lot less frustrating than when the team was desperately flailing to compete with Ohtani on the roster. Currently the team is on pace for a 75 win 87 loss season, which is about in line with preseason expectations. The trade deadline will likely result in losing pieces and the overall record suffering a bit from it, but we are seeing improvement from the young core and some promising results on the farm so I’ll take it.

Neto and O’Hoppe are getting tons of love (and deservedly so) but Nolan Schanuel’s improvement is flying a bit under the radar. He crushed it in May and has a wRC+ of 118 on the season.

Youngsters Matthew Lugo and Sam Aldegheri rejoined the team this week as Yoan Moncada and Robert Stephenson were placed on the IL. Aldegheri looked good in a long relief role in Boston on Wednesday and would have exited unscathed with better defense behind him. Lugo continues to show promise as a fourth outfielder who can start in a pinch.

The Stephenson signing continues to look like Perry’s biggest free agent mistake. He’s pitched a total of 1 inning for the Angels due to being injured when Perry signed him. Had Perry lit $33 million in cash on fire, at least we could’ve made s’mores.

Continuing to search for pitching depth, old friend Carson Fulmer was signed to a minor league deal.

Hopefully the lack of pitching depth will be solved with some kids. I keep linking this guy because he’s giving me reason to dream. Walbert Urena had another really good outing this week.

And it appears this blossoming can be credited to the Angels coaching and development staff. Urena always possessed a good fastball. Now he is throwing a sinker that plays nicely off that high 90s heater. The result is a lot of whiffs and a lot of ground balls.

Hopefully in a couple of years this team comes together and gives Mike Trout some playoff runs to cap off his career. I couldn’t write this column without linking his absolute bomb in Fenway, though.

Now, from around the baseball world:

NCAA Super Regionals are this weekend and they are a lot simpler to explain than the Regionals. All Super Regionals are best 2 out of 3 series between team. UCLA hosts a Super and I just might head up there for a game. Here’s a list of the full schedule of games.

Folks are making plenty of predictions but the only constant in this tournament is upsets. And if you’re watching from home, you’ll hear a familiar voice.

From around baseball…

The Red Sox are pretty bad and I love it. Take a look at the downfall of the Sux. Perhaps they simply ran out of Papi and Manny’s magic hit juice.

Royals rookie Jac Caglianone cracked a double with his dad in the stands for his first MLB hit. This kid looks legit.

As much as Boston is underperforming, there is a rookie building his reputation on that team. Carlos Navaez was the subject of a FanGraphs piece that I enjoyed.

If you think our bullpen is bad, Atlanta blew a 6 run lead in the 9th inning.

Should we be jealous of the White Sox? Jerry Reinsdorf has agreed to gradually sell the troubled franchise to the Ishbia clan.

Enjoy your weekend and link what I missed. I know I’ll host an open house one day this weekend and definitely want to catch a game either at the Big A or up at UCLA. This is my first weekend without my farm ball team and as much as I loved those little dudes, I’m looking forward to spending one on one time with my son. So I’m not sure exactly what I’m doing, but I’ll be doing it with him.

With this being June 6th, it is important we remember the huge sacrifices made on this day. D Day changed the fate of the world. These men went through hell to do so.

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WallyChuckChili
Legend
2 days ago

We talk’n about Mike Trout!

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 days ago

2Nights lineup. I likey seeing Mikey at DH.

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angelslogic
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I like that line-up with the exception of Soler who should be riding the pine.

frosse
Member
2 days ago

Great links. Thank you very much!

That DBacks come back / Braves melt down was wild!

I heard the Red Sox have a losing record since the Mookie trade. Love it!

I just found out that the Angels brought back a subscription ticket deal. For $49/month you can go to as many home games as you want, except for the Dodgers series. They had this before but then they got rid of it. Ticket sales are obviously down. I love the subscription deal and think it’s a great value. You can upgrade your seat if you want to. The only downside is you can’t transfer your tickets to someone else.

Eric_in_Portland
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2 days ago

tense game, Oregon State vs Florida State. Great defense by Arquette and Lodise.

LanaBanana
Super Member
2 days ago

Representing at the game tonight in my CtPG T-Shirt

WallyChuckChili
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2 days ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

Will surely stand out with all those beach shirts.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

TJS for Corbin Burnes. That sucks. He probably didn’t want to keep pitching after that huge contract. Surgery is the best way out. Poor Sneks… I wanted them to beat the Doyers.

Cowboy26
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2 days ago

I’m surprised we didnt sign him

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

He wanted to go to Arizona. In truth we offered him the extra 1M per year that CtPG Guy has been certain would have coaxed guys like Weaver and Cole to NOT go to the places they want to play and come here instead. But even though cheap Arte opened the hall of larges he still went to his home in Arizona. Idiot. We have Newport Beach for Christ’s sake…. plus hobo poop and high taxes! AND the most medium fans in baseball!

Marcotor
Trusted Member
2 days ago

What a Moron. We have the (former) GOAT and the “Magic” Monkey!!!! He shoulda come here!

steelgolf
Legend
1 day ago

Problem is, SF Giants also marketed high taxes and hobo poop, which they have us beat hands down on that front.

FungoAle
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2 days ago

That does suck. Really good dude. Had been good but not great this year, maybe an underlying problem magnified. Overcame arm problems early on in his career. Guys with 2-major overhauls, toast.

Cowboy26
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2 days ago

https://x.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1931106220167061686

Sounds like another TJS is forthcoming . Maybe they screwed up and operated on the wrong arm the first time?

steelgolf
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2 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

He an “the one who shall not be named” can exchange crochet patterns and stew recipes.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

God. I hope not. I mean sure, he’s probably faking it and will just have surgery to avoid playing baseball. CtPG Guy is all over that grift, cause no one hates baseball like ballplayers and surgery doesn’t hurt if you’re rich. Why not sit back and collect the dough?

But still. Injury/Surgery/Rehab…. repeat. That’s a total bummer if he has to do that.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Cowboy26

His advisor is Anthony Rendon. Stephenson will not pitch in another game as an Angel.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Hard to see how a “biceps strain” could be parlayed into a UCL injury but who knows?

Cowboy26
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2 days ago

https://x.com/Jared_Tims/status/1931030073412640897

Well thats settled. There’s NFW the Angels will be drafting Liam Doyle.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Welp. Maybe we don’t draft him. Or maybe we do and he turns out to be durable as fk. Half the guys I thought were gonna be strait horses in the draft are glue horses now, so what do I know?

Twebur
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2 days ago

•Reinstated RHP José Fermin from injured list

•Yesterday, optioned LHP Sam Aldegheri to Double-A Rocket City

https://x.com/jefffletcherocr/status/1931099108225531997?s=61

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Am I the only one that thinks we waste too many options on our players?

The Italian only made one (or was it two?) appearances during this call up. It’s not as though Fermin is some critical cog or whatever.

JackFrost
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2 days ago

Well, the Angels are back at home where they can resume getting their asses kicked again.

In the month of May their performance on the road vs at home was like day vs night.

Overall in May :

Road : 11-5 W/L record. Avg runs scored per game : 6.18
Home : 5-11 W/L record. Avg runs scored per game : 3.12

We can’t score runs at home !

Mariners score early and often vs Hendricks and win going away tonight 8-4.

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BannedInLA
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Probably no correlation but, Angel fans are generally docile – assuming they show up at all – and the atmosphere is a bit lame IMO.

Depending on the opponent, our “home” games are de facto road games.

JackFrost
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2 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

This is exactly how I explain the difference; due to our mostly lame fans we have no real home field advantage. In fact, it is a home field disadvantage.

Twebur
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2 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

If….and that’s a big if, we start winning, we can become a good home crowd again. I had season tickets 2003-2009 and we had a solid fanbase.

Cowboy26
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2 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I’ve been talking about this issue for a while Frosty but I’m not buying that its do to the tepid fans. The Angels suck at home because the park dimensions and facilities ( mound, hitters eye etc.) are not conducive to our hitters and pitchers . This issue has been an issue that has been going on for a while with the teams that Billy & Perry have been building.

I dont think the fans have anything to do with this since we have already proven hostile road environments do not seem to affect this team.If you dont believe me go look at the home and road splits for damn near every player on this roster both before career and this year in particular .

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Twebur
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2 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Must be some reason for it, all that makes sense. But the other teams don’t seem to mind. Safe to assume #1 reason is we suck more than visiting team most home-stands

JackFrost
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2 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Well, I think some teams play better on the road because they cultivate an “us vs the world” attitude…and they play better because of it. And if you don’t think crowds impact player performance (both in a positive and negative way ) all you need to do is go look at interviews were the players themselves respond to questions about or otherwise talk about crowds, esp passionate/good ones.

They almost universally say that the effect/impact is real. They feel the energy and it does help them — they feed off of it. And the energy at home this season is DEAD !

In contrast, when the crowd energy IS there the excitement inspires the players to be their best, and I believe helps them focus. Our playoff run in 2002 was a great example of that.

But all of this said, it does not mean your points are invalid. Both these things can be true to varying degrees…

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

My brother has sworn that when the Angels changed their field lights everything went to shit. Valid as any other theory.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 days ago

When was that ? 1967?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

I think it was heading into the 2019 season….

JackFrost
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2 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

The problem with that theory is that the lights effect BOTH teams equally… Which would also apply to the things you were saying Cowboy.

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angelslogic
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2 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

They need an organist to liven things up. And they can “can” the day-o crap.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Shay Torrent where are you?

WallyChuckChili
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2 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

K. Middleton was Right!

Twebur
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2 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Our kids are those kids that always hung out at their friend’s house. Better, TV, better toys, better food, better everything. Our home sucks.

FungoAle
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2 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Clearly the umpires fault

Twebur
Legend
2 days ago

Moore Sam yesterday….

AAA Salt Lake won, 11-8

Christian Moore: 3-5, HR, RBI, 2 R
JD Davis: 3-5, 2 R
Chad Stevens: 4-5, 2 RBI, 2 R
Tucker Flint: 2-3, 2 BB, 2 RBI, R
Sebástian Rivero: 2-4, HR, 3 RBI, R

Caden Dana: 5.1IP, 4H, 3R, 3ER, 4BB, 4K
Carson Fulmer: 1IP 1H 0R 0BB
Sam Bachman: 1IP 0H 0R 1BB 2K

https://x.com/AngelsMiLB/status/1930842715899547954

Phil
Newbie
2 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Would like to see one of the prospects replace Soler.
Or at least put Lugo in – see what he can do, when given consistent playing time.

At one time, Soler was World Series MVP; now, he just flails at pitches well out of the strike zone. Ugh!

Cowboy26
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2 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’m curious what the Angels do with McDaniels. Hes about 1/3 into his rehab assignment and, assuming no setbacks ( i.e. Billy Eppler specials) the Angels will need to activate him or return him to the Doyers by June 26th.

FungoAle
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2 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

JD Davis getting 3 hits clearly shows why Moore’s 3 hits are not that impressive

Cowboy26
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

3 hits including a Home run in the PCL is like a walk and a knock in the show.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
2 days ago

Don’t think I have seen this shared yet. The Blummer taking a day off from writing about the Angels to… highlight how inept the Angels are at player development.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6406524/2025/06/06/mets-griffin-canning-opens-up-on-career-revival-in-new-york-struggles-with-angels/

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  TrojanBoiler

To think we had an ace-level pitcher and just gave him away……

Mets’ Griffin Canning opens up on career revival in New York, struggles with Angels

By Sam Blum

LOS ANGELES — It was the very first day of the offseason — when players can finally exhale after a grueling eight months of non-stop baseball.

That, however, was not the case for Griffin Canning. The then-Angels pitcher of six years, and lifelong Orange County, Calif., resident, found his life and career upended by a trade to the Braves just hours after the World Series ended.

“It was a little shocking,” Canning said on Thursday. “But I didn’t have a great year last year, so I wasn’t super surprised to see it.”

To say he didn’t have a great year in 2024 is an understatement. Canning allowed 99 runs, the most in the American League. His strikeout rate took a massive dip, from 9.9 per nine innings in 2023 to just 6.8 in 2024. It was a bad season.

But he’s more than made up for it with the Mets. After the Braves traded for the 29-year-old righty, he was non-tendered. New York subsequently signed Canning to a one-year, $4.25 million deal, taking a chance on a once-promising arm.

He now has a 2.90 ERA over his first 12 starts and is one of the top starting pitchers in the National League, amid a full-scale turnaround of his career.

Speaking in front of his locker inside the Mets clubhouse at Dodger Stadium — the morning after he shut out the defending champions over six innings — he reflected on why things have worked better for him in New York than they ever did in Anaheim.

“You see it with a lot of guys, just a change of scenery,” said Canning. “I was in Southern California my whole life. It’s nice to get out and experience something new.”

It wasn’t just the scenery that changed for Canning. It was the team culture, the strategic plan implemented by his new coaches, and the technology available to him.

Most importantly, he changed his pitch sequencing. Canning’s best pitch is his slider, but he didn’t throw it as much in his final season with the Angels. Its usage has gone from 24.1 percent in 2024 to 32.9 percent this year. With that has come a dip in his four-seam fastball usage, which has gone from a primary option to a more strategic one.

“It was difficult. We had four or five different managers and four or five different pitching coaches with the Angels,” Canning said. “Sometimes a new guy comes in and maybe doesn’t necessarily know you as well. Or just different organizational philosophies when people come in and out.”

The results speak for themselves. His fastball is resulting in whiffs on 19.5 percent of swings, compared to 14.8 percent last year. The hard-hit percentage has decreased to 44.4 percent, compared to 51.4 percent in 2024. The batting average against and slugging percentage against have steeply declined. All while his slider effectiveness has increased across all the same metrics.

Canning said there’s nothing different about his slider. Just a few mechanical tweaks to his delivery, and, more importantly, he’s changed what pitches he throws in what counts.
“It starts with him buying into what we offered him, and also giving credit to our pitching department that is able to not only provide the information, but get to know the player,” said Mets manager Carlos Mendoza. “We knew he had a good slider. … Last year, he threw his four-seamer a lot. I think it’s more increasing this pitch, not so much of that one.”
Canning also said the Mets utilize technology differently. For example, he said he utilizes a KinaTrax machine, which allows him to see his skeletal movements and subsequently improve them. Canning said the reliance on technology with the Mets is more than he was used to with the Angels.

“We had it, but I never saw it,” Canning said of the KinaTrax. “I think the Angels have all the similar things. I don’t think it’s a bad thing — sometimes they don’t want guys to go down that rabbit hole, and worry about those kinds of things.”

On Wednesday night, Canning had his best start of the season. Six shutout innings, seven strikeouts, no walks, just three hits. On the season, his home runs per nine innings dropped to 0.9 from 1.6.

Hard contact against him has been fewer and farther between.

“Much different,” said Dodgers manager Dave Roberts. “Obviously, he’s healthy. The stuff is playing up. The velocity is up. There’s a cutter, the slider is good, there’s a changeup. He’s a much better pitcher, more weapons than he’s had in the past.”

The Angels have long struggled to develop starting pitching, particularly pitchers that they drafted. Their recent history is littered with examples of arms who haven’t evolved in the way they hoped. Canning is arguably the most concrete example of this.

He was drafted in the second round in 2017. By 2019, he was the organization’s top pitching prospect, behind only Jo Adell on the overall leaderboard. There was hope he’d be a legit ace-level pitcher.

Instead, it was a half-dozen years of injuries and ineffectiveness. Culminating in his worst season, and a career inflection point.

Now, Canning is that ace-level starter on the best team in the National League. He’s a pending free agent, and if he continues to pitch well, he will command a haul on the open market.

New York is a different animal from Anaheim. It’s a younger and more lively crowd, Canning said, with a great knowledge of the game. But it also invites a ton of pressure — a demand for success that isn’t matched anywhere else. The good news for Canning is that he’s satisfied and exceeded every expectation.

To save his career and be a critical piece of what the Mets hope is a historic season.
“They thought they could bring me in and see some success,” Canning said. “I think it’s a testament to the culture. A big aspect of it is being on more of a winning team. Not playing for yourself as much, but playing for the 25 other guys, has been helpful for me in particular.”

Cowboy26
Legend
2 days ago

Yes an Ace level pitcher that now averages less than 5 innings and 87 pitches a “start”.

Canning sucked giant balls last year but for the most part his numbers as an Angel in 2023 were better than they are for the Mets this year in WHIP, K/9, K/BB & Innings per start.

The biggest difference this year is Canning is inducing more ground balls and has improved his HR/9 over 2023 (0.9 HR/9 vs 1.6 HR/9) as the Mets are consistently pulling him out of the game before he’s eligible for the win or he reaches 90 pitches. Of course it doesn’t hurt that Griff is now getting way better run support than he ever did from our anemic offense even with the Terrific Trio of the GOAT, Unicorn and the freeloader.

Of course Sam the Hat has some how failed to mention any of this…

Twebur
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Zip it CB26. You’re messing with the narrative.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Twebur

Yes, Sam has an agenda.

Yes, the Angels player management processes and techniques have been challenged by Sam and others. However, results matter, and this is where the Angels’ support is on shaky ground.

Canning has had 12 starts thus far. His innings pitched are: 5.2, 4, 5.1, 6, 5, 5, 5, 6, 5.1, 2.2, 3, and 6 innings.

He was pulled early in both his losses – which is not unusual.

The Mets are managing him to a pitch count range: 87, 89, 86, 102, 84, 90, 82, 92, 92, 55 (L), 80 (L), 92. Again, not unusual to manage pitchers to a pitch count.

ERA+ with Angels: 92, with Mets: 131
FIP: with Angels 4.78, with Mets 3.79
WHIP with Angels 1.333, with Mets 1.332
SO/BB with Angels: 2.64, with Mets 2.19
H9 with Angels: 8.8, with Mets 7.9
HR9 with Angels: 1.6, with Mets 0.9

The Angels staff managed Canning their way, the Mets are doing it their way. Canning THUS FAR has responded better to the Mets approach.

Canning is new to the NL, so we’ll see what adjustments teams make when they face him the second and third time around. The results could be different.

Bottomline: I’m glad that Canning has had a career resurgence. He’s a good guy and deserves the success.

Twebur
Legend
2 days ago

It appears to be getting better here. Can’t argue with his experience with us. But, hopefully we are getting better at developing arms. And it will take years to see the fruits. I’m not denying or defending Sammy’s slant, but I’m not ready to proclaim Can Can the stud we lost. I think we’d all agree at times, on and off, always briefly, he was our most consistent pitcher over his career, and than would go back to a line of 4.1, 4 earned and 99 pitches, for a month and 1/2. Sounds to me like the wake up call did him good as it can sometimes. Let’s all reconvene in September and take a look at the Grifter. Most us here have no ill will with him, hell I was rooting for him against the Doyers.

The Grifter has been set free.

Last edited 2 days ago by Twebur
Cowboy26
Legend
2 days ago

He is a good guy. I’ve had some in depth discussions with Griff’s dad in the past (we have a mutual friend) and at the time he had nothing but good things to say about the organization even saying that the Angels treated him and his son like family and were very supportive during the Tyler Skaggs tragedy ( Griff was very close to Tyler)

I’m not sure how they feel now as maybe their eyes have opened to what is possible with other teams’ coaching and development but it wouldn’t be the first time that a change in scenery ends up the best option for all parties.

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FungoAle
Legend
2 days ago

Is it an agenda? I dunno, the gross miscalculations by the organization are constantly served up every week on a pu-pu platter, just too difficult to ignore.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I thought ‘Ace level’ was bit of a stretch as well haha

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

As with all of these scenarios., let’s make an assessment after all 162 are played.

Remember when Paris “should be batting leadoff” ??? Bwahahaha

2002heaven
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

No low budget small market team has a powerful run scoring offense. Before you mention the Padres who don’t have a small budget team.

milehigh
Member
2 days ago

I think this is what happens when we say “fire all the coaches” every year. There was a tool that could have been used, same one he has now used with the Mets, but he never saw it. Somehow the Angels seem to be swing and miss when it comes to actually helping players. Maybe Enright can figure out how to change things.

What may be the most popular take of the day, personally I’d like to see a site rule discouraging whole copy/paste of articles. I just don’t think this is fair use. Even Sam deserves his money. Just my cents. Won’t bring it up again.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I keep looking for the article where Sam Blum was like “Griffin Canning could totally be an ace pitcher!”.

All I find is nothing…. or CtPG Guy complaining that we drafted him.

Hindsight. the most amazing of powers.

FungoAle
Legend
2 days ago

No matter how people spin it, trading an viable arm for a below average DH was malpractice

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I have a soft spot for guys like Navaez and Abreu on the Red Sox. Guys who are surrounded by “CAN’T MISS TALENT” but dig in and carve out their own spot in a teams future. The B list prospects. I dig it when they do well.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I like your reasoning on Detmers Jeff. You’re right. He finally looks like he feels the strike zone is HIS and he’s attacking it instead of nibbles. It’s a lost season anyway. Why not let him get his mindset solid and then move him into starts?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Go UTSA! Why? Why not?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

The White Sox blow my mind because, more so than the Angels, they suffer from “big market let down”. They are in a huge market. They have THEIR OWN fanbase a lot more than the Angels do. Not a lot of “I like both” people in Chicago and there are A TON of people who grew up White Sox fans simply because the team’s so old.

There’s not really a good reason that the White Sox can’t come fairly close to being as popular as the Cubs. Probably not surpass them, but be close. Their stadium sucks, and isn’t in a hipster/gay neighborhood. Wrigleyville is awesome, Rate Field is by a huge train depot. But there are plenty of pretty successful clubs with crap stadium locations. The United Center is near nothing good and the Bulls do fine. Rate Field is actually IN CHICAGO and doesn’t have a pile of idiots demanding the team get named for a suburb. Their biggest problem is, even if they build a new stadium, to remain “The Southsiders” they have to stay south of the 290 freeway…. and other than some spot near Soldier Field there just isn’t a good place to eventually build a “stadium district” type thing.

The Bears want to move out to the sticks and the city is stuck with the place. Crazy idea. Soldier Field got that weird update a while back…. keep the guts of that stadium intact, but tear down parts of it and make it into a baseball stadium by the lake? The White Sox in Soldier Field could be a cool thing….

I know from being in with a lot of hat/gear design guys that the White Sox are actually pretty popular as a team to wear. Their weird “wish we were the bulls” City Connect aside the Wsox have a cool logo and cool past uniforms, etc that people like to buy. They also have a distinct vibe. People from Lincoln Park root for the Cubs. “Real Chicago” roots for the White Sox. They are gritty as fk. A lot more personality and character than the Angels. They also have a bunch of legit Hall of Famers in their history and we have Vladdy thus far.

They are in the AL Central and, with their market and fan base, should be able to dominate their division fairly often if they had an owner who gave a shit. Maybe this new owner will take advantage of all this. If I were a billionaire wanting to buy a team I’d probably prefer the White Sox situation to the Angels.

MarineLayer
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2 days ago

Wow, your Chicago knowledge is very impressive.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

I love Chicago. I’d live there….. but I am too big a wuss for their winters. Have a lot of friends there though, been there a ton of times. Probably best over all band scene ever.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 days ago

Chicago is pretty cool. I definitely prefer it over NYC.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Also, the best pizza spot is NOT Lou Malnati’s or Giordano’s, that distinction goes to..::: drum roll please….

Piquad’s

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Chicago pizza >>>>>>>> Floppy NYC pizza

Although if I am being honest, Detroit pizza > Chicago pizza

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

When I hit Detroit, I’m making my way to “Coney dogs”. Probably Lafayette’s.

Twebur
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Best pizza ever, Wrigley Field, can’t beat it. Mid 90’s, Doyer game on a Wednesday night, red eye out of LAX to Boston, series at Fenway. Commuter plane to New York City, Yankees series old Yankee Stadium, Amtrak down to Baltimore….. on the way home stopped in Chicago for a Cub series. City of Chicago got my vote for best all-round City by far. Deep dish at multiple places, don’t remember the name, but F’ing good.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Nice. Associating cities with food (and drink) is fun.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
2 days ago

Wait wait wait, are you saying that Orange County isn’t gritty?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Orange County…. hard hard hard bruh.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

I think Plascentia has a little grit. Don’t the KottonMouth Kings hail from there? Haha

Marcotor
Trusted Member
2 days ago

I spent a week in Chicago every year for vendor training. The options were February and June. Guess which one I took? Wrigley is… Wrigley. Legendary for a reason. But I had a far better time with White Sox fans in that dump over the 5 seasons I got to attend games there. Chicago is a great town with a lot going for it. GREAT ribs. Pizza, obviously. Hot Dogs so good they make your tongue hard. Friendliest fans around, no matter who you root for – as long as it’s not the Cubs.

PS for DD: Yes, they believe in the conspiracy to Only Screw the White Sox 😉

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MarineLayer
Legend
2 days ago

The Atlanta Braves did their best Angels impression last night. Tip of the hat to former Angel Raisel Iglesias for helping make it happen.

red floyd
Legend
2 days ago

And it appears this blossoming can be credited to the Angels coaching and development staff.

That’s UNPOSSIBLE! It is a well known fact that the Halos coaching and development staff only ruins prospects!!!!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

If Detmers is “back”, then trade him at his zenith because he’s just one day closer to forgetting everything he’s learned. Again.

The team has been “rebuilding not rebuilding” since 2014. Serious question: what makes this year any different? Has Perry finally figured out the role and responsibilities of a MLB GM? Does Angels baseball operations have an organizational strategy to build a sustainable winner? Has Arte decided to let the baseball experts make the baseball decisions? What makes 2025 the year when the franchise has taken the steps to break the losing cycle?

steelgolf
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

What movies are they in? Is it a double feature? Because I love double features, and doubles on the ball field too!

Fansince1971
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I think you are being super optimistic and a bit rose-colored-glasses in your analysis but I’ll ride your happy wave with you until it crashes.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yes Jeff. Drink the piss. Live in the real. Be the Trent Reznor of baseball fans. “Hey, it looks like they are at least letting prospects develop some now.” is Care Bears level rose colored glasses. Get with it bro. Don’t be fooled again. Next you’re gonna try to act like the Angels building a bunch of player development stuff in Tempe is like the Angels building a bunch of player development stuff in Tempe and that investment in development is an investment in development.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Since the final “Get the Unicorn to smile” trades that sucked and Arte’s refusal to admit the team is rebuilding which seems to drive the sewing circle around here crazy what moves have been made that indicate Arte is meddling Arte the last couple years? I mean sure, he’s still involved, but he seems about as involved as an average owner at this point.

And no. I don’t expect ANY GM to have this mess cleaned up in less than two years. Perry’s Plan is still looking like it’s 40% mess right now, but things are also obviously different than say 2023.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
2 days ago

Trade deadline moves could be telling. Trading Ward with a year of control left or something crazy like trading Kikuchi would give me a lot more confidence that there is a longer term plan.

If Perry only trades the guys on expiring contracts then it would be tough to make an assessment one way or the other.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

We need Ward to stay hot and Rengifo to be an MLB player. It doesn’t do much good to trade Ward for a ball bag.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
2 days ago

Walberg Urena

Seems like they want to put him on the same path as Jose Soriano.

Soooooo….
When is he going to Pittsburgh for refining?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

I hope they find a better path than Soriano. We have too many #4 / #5 type starting pitchers. We need a few #1 / #2 types to emerge.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I am gonna call him Walberg now.

toad2065
Trusted Member
2 days ago

Is he kin to Mark and Donnie?

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
2 days ago

Not Wallbanger Urena?

max
Trusted Member
max
2 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Well he’ll play for the Halos, so that’s where the batted balls will be going

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