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Maryvale was a quite little dive bar of a ballpark then they remodeled it just enough to lose the charm but not enough to make it a really nice ballpark.

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Pineapple12
Super Member
10 days ago

Not surprised, still sad.

“Angels plan to back off with Luis Rengifo because of his hamstring. Ron Washington said Rengifo was already behind after missing time due to illness. Washington said he’s unsure if he’ll be ready for Opening Day”

https://x.com/RhettBollinger/status/1898781441846051240?t=jzwM8X2n2IxJAg1_ePOXRw&s=19

2002heaven
Super Member
10 days ago

25 reliever type pitchers and one good starter Tyler Anderson……
WW2 Soviet Red army, where big but not very good numbers is better than a few good men.

Twebur
Legend
11 days ago

It will be intriguing for the first time in a long time to see how the few MLB roster spots shake out…….and even more interesting to see the roster dispersal between AAA and AA.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago

Terry Smith is definitely in Tempe despite Cheap & Evil Arte’s edicts because they were sitting next to each other in the opening broadcast shot . And that wasn’t a green shot because Bobby V interviewed Wash after the game.

But Maybe Wash is in Anaheim too?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
11 days ago

yay for us!

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago

Say what you want about the Angels drafting and player development, Perry has done really well in the 2 deadline deals last year. I dont think anyone here thought that he would get the prospect ( and quasi prospect) value and volume he got in the Estevez and Garcia trades.

I know there was alot of frustration here that TA, Rengifo & Ward weren’t moved but it would appear that Perry really tries to grind the most out of a deal before pulling the trigger.I know its unhealthy (especially as an Angel fan) to keep focusing on what could have been, but It makes me wonder what an incredible return the Platypus could have got for trading the Unicorn at the 2023 deadline.

FungoAle
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Grinding out a deal is fine but a mistake was made not ditching Anderson. I think Perry fumbled this and misread the room.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

We’ll never know

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  FungoAle

Who was trying to trade for Anderson?

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago

Maybe I’m naive but it feels like playoff contention teams value trade deadline acquisitions more valuable from a prospect return standpoint if there is not a long term commitment required.Meaning those those that are in the last year of their contract seem to have more trade value than those that have longer commitments. of curse there are exceptions for superstar players like Juan Soto and others that were traded away with at least 2 years of control.

So with that being said players like Rengifo, Jansen, Moncada, Hendricks & even Tyler Anderson ( if he doesn’t struggle with his odd year doldrums) should bring the Angels some incredible returns at the July deadline.

Fansince1971
Legend
10 days ago

This is exactly right. We don’t know what the market was for him or even if there was a market.

2002heaven
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

OK, I’ll say what I want!!!
Other than Logan O’Hoppe who else do you mean? Pat Sandoval never turned into a ace…..LOL!!! Keep on drafting 22 yr old college players with a low ceiling of ability because we don’t develop HS or Latin kids anymore.
 😂  💪 

Last edited 10 days ago by 2002heaven
Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago

Zefer pumping out 100 mph with ease. What was Boston thinking when they traded this dude (+ more!) for Luis Garcia 😂😂😂 ??

tanana40
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I was just thinking the same thing, I also think Lugo might be a worthful player. I am less hopeful about Kavadas but we got a lot for a journey relief pitcher.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

This control (and command!) is utterly new for Zeferjahn. He was all heat, but had no idea where the ball was going. He was a 5 ERA pitcher with a BB/9 between 6-8 at most levels since drafting.

He’s a former third rounder, so the talent level has always been high, but the projection was based on velocity over command.

FungoAle
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Not sure if the +more is any good but I do like Zefer, have been on this guy since he arrived.

Twebur
Legend
11 days ago

Oh Rio Rio.

ryanfea
Super Member
11 days ago

I love Terry Smith but when he’s commenting on games on tv you notice how consistently inaccurate he is

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  ryanfea

is he even there? The home run calls seem to be like a guy watching his tv and not being able to see anything other than what’s shown. “No one is signaling”…well maybe someone is, just not on camera.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago

For 50% of the regular season, that’s exactly what Smith is doing.

Moreno doesn’t want to pay his travel expenses to allow him to travel with the team.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I’m surprised C & E Arte even let Terry & Langley call home games inside the stadium versus relegating him to the parking lot production trailer

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Gotta turn that broadcast booth into another luxury box!

JackFrost
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26
Last edited 11 days ago by JackFrost
Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  ryanfea

I noticed this a couple of years ago. It isn’t getting any better but, thankfully, it’s not getting any worse… yet.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Typically he’s not at road games (Moreno budgeting move) so he’s just watching video and a second or two delayed. Not sure if he’s in Arizona though.

tanana40
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Part of the problem is if Terry is watching on TV and not at the game but even if he is in the ballpark, his strikes and ball calls can be inconsistent (he might say, that a pitch is outside for a ball, when it was really low for a ball, etc.). With that said, I enjoy listening to him and Mark in particular and he has been the only consistent radio/TV personality for the Angels the past 23 years.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago

As with his last outing, I think Johnson is ready for the big league bullpen now. He looks like an excellent 7th inning option with Zeferjahn.

Jansen
Joyce
Johnson
Zeferjahn
Burke
McDaniels
Silseth
Suarez

Very strong, balanced pen. Not sure where Quijada fits in there though, and it means one of Detmers or Koch ends up in the minors.

ryanfea
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Silseth has not earned a roster spot to this point

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Well, they’ve been treating him as a starter, when his place on this team currently should be as a single inning reliever, imo.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I’m thinking they keep Quijada and stretch Silseth out in Salt Lake City’s rotation.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

here’s what Fletch has.

8 relievers:

Locks: Jansen, Joyce, Quijada (L), Burke (L)

Likely: Zeferjahn, Crouse, Suarez (L, long man)

One Spot Left: S.Anderson, McDaniels (L), Peterson, Johnson. (Also maybe a SP like Silseth)

https://x.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1898495916790927699?t=hgC7R-eD9BlFugCroix0zQ&s=19

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I think Crouse is….fine. But I wouldn’t lose McDaniels for him, and I don’t believe in him, Anderson or Peterson over Johnson at this point.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I feel like Johnson and McDaniels have been two of best performers so far.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

McDaniels has definitely exceeded my expectations. It’s extremely rare that guys make the jump from single A to the MLB, and rare that Rule 5 selections come from the lower minors and stick it out.

Johnson I liked from the get-go, but assumed he’d stay stretched out at AA. But he may simply have more value for the team as a leverage reliever at this point.

FungoAle
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Grouse is fools gold, 2025 might not treat him to well.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Not sure the Angels will trade or release Quijada so I doubt Silseth makes the pen.Chase’s previous Bullpen assignment was a disaster as he has been much more effective as a starter as long as he can build endurance.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

If Chase still has an option, you guys are probably right, and he ends up at Salt Lake.

That said, I don’t think his last bullpen assignment, when the team was very ambivalent and inconsistent about his ultimate role, is predictive of the future. I do think if Silseth were a short reliever for a full season, he could see success.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Only Jansen, Burke, Quijada, Suarez McDaniels ( Rule 5) dont have options ( Hence the lefty quartet) so unless there’s an injury that leaves 3 spots which all go to righties. Joyce & the Z man are locks so only one bullpen spot is forcing this conundrum

Kevin
Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Quijada will make the team over Silseth and a Josh McDaniels. BTW other than if Quijada is pitching well, I don’t trust any of the pitchers you named below Jyuxe. Crouse is making the team also. He inspires some trust:

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Kevin

McDaniels will make the team. NFW Evil & Cheap Arte wants to return anything to his archenemy Doyers this early in the season even if he can get back $50,000 of the original $100,000 Rule 5 fee.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago

RJ is making the big club

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

He’d have to do so at the expense of Quijada, Silseth or Suarez though, most likely.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Or Crouse who has 2 minor league options left.

Last edited 11 days ago by Cowboy26
Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Crouse really seems like a taxi squad option.

FungoAle
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Dallas Baptists finest

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago

Ryan Johnson time !

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

very impressive outing.

Twebur
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Johnson swinging his Johnson with swagger.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

he’s a freak 😂

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Even the guys making long john contact were doing so on desperate, reaching swings.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Twebur
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

It’s an odd comment. Is that a maturity thing?

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Apparently the Angels want to see success for a longer season at AAA before they make a move. Let’s hope he forces them to add him to the big boy table. Hes already own the 40 man so the worst they do is burn an option.

But if not Paris, I’m rooting for Scott Kingery then to fill the last bench spot. I am really concerned the Angels are trying too hard to make Christian Moore the feel good Opening Day Roster story a reality. IMO This would be a disaster that would rival the asinine decision to call up Jo Adell for his MLB debut way back during the 2020 COVID season. I do not want to experience that train wreck again.

Last edited 11 days ago by Cowboy26
Twebur
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

About 1/2 way done with ST. Even the Angels won’t force the roster move, right? But he has time to improve

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Having guys who can hit on our roster ruins our image.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago

Typical Tyler Anderson start: crafty but no room for error as mistakes get hit a long way.

Last edited 11 days ago by Cowboy26
Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago

Matthew Lugo is definitely a major league hitter. Taylor Ward’s days as a Halo are numbered.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

We’ve gotten to a point where we underrate Ward.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Nah. I actually think hes going to have a big year assuming hes healthy.

But one things for sure, no-one will ever underrate TBW’s outfield defense.

Twebur
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Football offensive coordinators go to him for creative route running

FungoAle
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’d be so more into this team if we could get Ward on a train outta here

Last edited 11 days ago by FungoAle
Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago

Gorman Thomas is now a pitcher for the Brew Crew?

He looks great for 74 years old.

Last edited 11 days ago by Cowboy26
Eric_in_Portland
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I do that all the time. The Brewers have Bob Hoskins and Mitch Mitchell playing today.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago

I miss GT’s iconic mustache though. That thing had a life of its own.

JackFrost
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yeah, he looked like a real beer maker… and a beer drinker too !

In one of the first few Angels games I ever saw he hit a HR off of Nolan Ryan.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
11 days ago

I take back my “long season” remark. We’re gonna rule!

ErSTAN
Member
11 days ago

Lol. 117 wins, here we come.

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago

when CMo make contact good things tend to happen.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

still too much of rarity right now.

Twebur
Legend
11 days ago

Holy Schit Nolan!

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

OPPO TACO for the H2O NOODLE-O?

UNPOSSIBLE

Last edited 11 days ago by Cowboy26
ErSTAN
Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Nolan Exit Velo Schanuel.💪

Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago

Nolan 💣!

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