Our boys host the local Diamondbacks while some of them have to get on a bus and drive clear across the Phoenix metro area to take on the Royals.
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Angels Split Squad Gamethread
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Super Member
11 days ago
Mr Doyle the Volunteer had a better night than Mr Bremmer the Gaucho.
Doyle delivered his fourth straight elite start for the Vols. He struck out 13 in 5⅔ innings and walked two. He retired 17 straight batters after a leadoff walk.
Bremmer gave up 3 runs on 5 hits to Northridge in 5 innings.
Last edited 11 days ago by RexFregosi
Super Member
11 days ago
College guys aren’t performing well enough right now for Holliday to drop to #2
Super Member
11 days ago
Making the majors before throwing a pitch in the minors would be a new one, even for us.
“Ryan Johnson, a.k.a. George Clinton, has made the Angels tertiary spring cuts for big league roster — most other top prospects were reassigned to minor league camp this morning”
https://x.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1898431923665666439?t=kf-WkbYCo6SZGlyNF9zbxQ&s=19
Legend
11 days ago
Lip service or is this truly a redemption story in the making?
https://www.ocregister.com/2025/03/07/angels-tim-anderson-willing-to-do-what-it-takes-in-new-start/
Super Member
11 days ago
Looks like the OD lineup minus Trout and Ward.
TA x 2 today.
👑 Luis’ return!
Adell in center.
A bevy of fun pitchers on the card — Zeferjahn, Ryan Johnson, Klassen, McDaniels, TGA.
It’s a great day to have a great day
Last edited 11 days ago by Pineapple12
Super Member
11 days ago
Rengifo scratched with hammy tightness. CMo replacing him
Super Member
11 days ago
Hereafter hermano Giffy hampered by his hammies.
hrumph
Super Member
11 days ago
RF
NODA-RADA
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Super Member
12 days ago
This game is dispiriting. This past week of games has been dispiriting.
Super Member
12 days ago
Good thing these games are meaningless. Now if this continues in April/May/June sigh
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Super Member
12 days ago
The games are indeed meaningless. It’s the lack of depth on the roster, and recurrence of bad tendencies among some of the more critical prospects, that is dispiriting.
The only positive I see from the spring games thus far is the emergence of what could be a strong bullpen. The offense looks anemic, and as ever, highly dependent on the health of aging players. The rotation looks fringe-average. Top prospects like Dana and Moore look like they need another year or so of development (in a system largely devoid of good developmental parks beyond Rocket City).
If there were more than bullpen pieces marching toward the MLB, I’d be more optimistic.
Super Member
12 days ago
Truth
Giffy’s hammies. Neto’s not ready also.
Only positive is Mike and Soler look good. Logan does too.
Super Member
12 days ago
And Ward has been hitting.
Legend
12 days ago
Trade him now.
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Super Member
12 days ago
There’s the beginning of a 1-4 up top of the lineup, but when I look at the five names who could reasonably rotate in those four spots (Ward, Neto, Rengifo, Trout, Soler), three are recently banged up, and the other two are thirty-somethings who could easily succumb to injury any day.
Meanwhile, CF is a bakeoff between two failed prospects (Adell/Moniak), one of whom can’t play CF to save his life, and who gave up a position he was good at (RF) so Trout could learn it on the fly. And at the corners, Moncada is seeking a late-life reinvention, and Schanuel largely looks like the same singles hitter he was last season, with one XBH (2b) in his first nine games.
It’s a tough sell.
Super Member
12 days ago
I agree but you said it much more elequently.
Super Member
12 days ago
Giffy is not helping himself in his walk year. His inability to stay healthy is very concerning. We need to trade him as soon as he heats up.
Super Member
12 days ago
That is a very nice summary up to this point.
Legend
12 days ago
Dispirit in the Sky?
Last edited 12 days ago by Cowboy26
Legend
12 days ago
We’re Crying Now.
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Super Member
12 days ago
It looks like it was Home Run Derby, but not in a good way.
Last edited 12 days ago by Charles Sutton
Member
12 days ago
At the tickets will continue to be cheap! 5 dollar Big A tix are the only thing inflation proof. Cheers 🍻
Legend
12 days ago
If you are willing to purchase and eat spoiled food – that can also keep costs down. It’s a lot like Angels baseball. It looks like chicken, tastes basically like chicken (maybe a bit funky) has an off consistency and isn’t very good for your health. But it’s cheap!!
Last edited 12 days ago by Fansince1971
Member
12 days ago
😆 you ain’t wrong. Last year I was all puffed out and said, “No more! I’m done with this team.” I then proceeded to attend 10 games. It’s a head vs the heart argument for me. I know us diehards get what we deserve when we financially/emotional support inept and morally corrupt owner.
Legend
11 days ago
“This game is dispiriting”
Well it’s good to know that at least you are getting into mid-season form.
Last edited 11 days ago by Fansince1971
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Super Member
12 days ago
That’s five straight Ks for Moore, going back to yesterday. He now has a 39% K rate in spring training, and that last one was square in the zone.
Not good.
Legend
12 days ago
But But he was the best bat in the College World Series last year
Trusted Member
12 days ago
Fine by me. They don’t need him this year so stash away for a year and buy us a year of his service time.
Legend
12 days ago
AA or AAA?
Super Member
12 days ago
AA. Better park and I want to see him dominate there for a month or two before moving him up.
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Super Member
12 days ago
When have the Angels ever been that patient? The first sign of a four game hot streak and he’ll be called up.
I think we’re seeing at close hand what Longenhagen saw with repeat looks last year:
Moore is most dangerous against pitches in the lower part of the strike zone, but he gets beaten up around the belt pretty regularly. His combination of breaking ball chase and vulnerability to high fastballs is what largely drove my bearish pre-draft hit tool projection and overall ranking (23rd in the class). Moore did a ton of in-zone whiffing at Tennessee and then again after the draft. He slashed .322/.378/.533 at Double-A, but struck out at a 30% clip and posted a 72% in-zone contact rate, which would be among the bottom handful of big league hitters. There are only a few productive second basemen who strike out as much as Moore did at Tennessee (20% K% during his career) and most of them hit left-handed.
His K rate ballooned in AA in the final weeks as pitchers learned his tendencies.
Will 400 PAs in AA improve Moore’s pitch recognition and swing decisions? Maybe…? He’s a pretty high strung personality – how will he respond to coaching during sustained adversity?
Legend
12 days ago
But But at the draft he guaranteed all of us a ring.
Legend
12 days ago
Well according to Torii who has actually worked with Moore in previous minicamps he felt he is very coachable and wants to continue to learn to get better so at least that concern from Longenhagen would seem to be unfounded.
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Super Member
12 days ago
Longenhagen, to my knowledge, has never said that Moore is uncoachable – is there particular commentary of his you’re referring to?
His concerns are his poor defense and high K rate, due to inconsistent offspeed recognition, vulnerability to the high strike and general swing decisions.
The high-strung concern is my own – having watched him as a Vol, and watched all his minor league games last year. He’s quick to argue with umps, gets angry at perceived miscalls, gets roused easily. It’s clear he views himself as a future star, and that swagger works when he’s winning, but he can get surly when he’s not.
I’ve heard from most of the coaches that they feel Moore is coachable. But that was the narrative on Jo as well. It’s just tough to coach guys into an average or better hit tool post-college. Maybe it happens, but we’ll see.
Legend
12 days ago
Huh?
He’s a pretty high strung personality – how will he respond to coaching during sustained adversity?
Emphasis added by me.
Last edited 12 days ago by Cowboy26
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Super Member
12 days ago
That’s my commentary – not Longenhagen’s. I italicized Longenhagen’s excerpt.
Legend
12 days ago
Your commentary is the same shade and similar font style as Longenberry’s so my bad.
But I’m glad then that Torii could alleviate your concerns about Moore’s coachability.
Super Member
12 days ago
Hopefully, he eventually works out, but if he doesn’t it’s just another example that we just don’t know how to evaluate young players effectively.
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Super Member
12 days ago
It may be a gross generalization, but so many player acquisitions feel like they’re based on select video clips of high exploits (going back to the Gary Matthews Jr catch) as opposed to more comprehensive modeling and projection. That, and the personal individual fetishes of a small group of regional scouts w/o the benefit of crosscheckers (most fired in Moreno’s purges) or data analysts (too expensive to hire in number).
I imagine Arte and John with a few “but did see when x did y” observations each offseason and draft prep cycle that translate into questionable business decisions.
But who knows with this group. Beyond the fact that the primary weaknesses seem chronic and sustained, and most ‘improvements’ year to year are just tweaks to the bench and bullpen.
Super Member
12 days ago
There have to be plenty of people like Longenhagen who could actually provide thoughtful input, or you could just read what the smart people say to at least get multiple viewpoints. Making better decisions when you draft could save you tens of millions later because you don’t have to buy a player.
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Super Member
12 days ago
WordPress doesn’t make it easy to change font shade in the comment section with its limited editor, unfortunately, so text color often carries over from copypasta.
I honestly don’t know about how coachable he is – as opposed to being humble and deferential in the presence of veteran elders he respects. Does that translate to swing refinement? We’ll only know by the outcomes.
Super Member
12 days ago
Drive to Survive S7 dropped today – excellent series
*nice for a rain out
I see a lot of Lewis Hamilton in CMo. I see a perfectionist who probably is hard-headed but is driven to excel above all. He seems sharp and confident, and learning all the time, but is kind of reserved. He was friendly too – I spoke with him a couple mornings.
from what I saw in camp, he was definitely seemed eager to learn and wasn’t at all flashy. And he knows his place as rookie (stfu).
between his drive and athleticism, I am very hopeful of big things, but he’s got to learn and grow and master his craft. no rush – keep Kingery
SEC baseball season hadn’t even started a year ago yet. He’s more a candidate for Futures Game MVP in 2025 than ALROY (but ya never know).
Last edited 12 days ago by RexFregosi
Legend
12 days ago
Are we going to set a record for strikeouts in the Cactus League this year?
( And I’m not talking about our pitchers)
Super Member
12 days ago
they say Moncada got his first hit.
if there is no video, do you believe it?
NRS now 2-for-2
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Super Member
12 days ago
I just tuned in as Schanuel was limping off the field. What happened?
Trusted Member
12 days ago
tuned in how, radio?
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Super Member
12 days ago
MLB.TV, Gameday audio.
Trusted Member
12 days ago
well, no offense, but how would anyone else know what happened through the audio? lol
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Super Member
12 days ago
Because maybe they heard the PBP on the play that led to him limping off the field? As I said, I tuned in when he was exiting the field. I didn’t hear what led up to that.
Legend
12 days ago
thrown out at second so maybe that was a sliding issue
Legend
12 days ago
Maybe he Limped off of the field due to the shame of getting thrown out at second trying to stretch a single into a double ( he got Hunter Renfroed) I dont think he leftthe game so hopefully hes ok.
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Super Member
12 days ago
Given what we’ve seen with Fontanelle and Trout on baserunning mishaps, hard not to anticipate the worst.
But yeah, he appears to be still in the game.
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Super Member
12 days ago
It’s raining though, so you get the sense that maybe the game is not long for the day.
Super Member
12 days ago
he’s still in the game (on a rainy day) and had the RBI, so not too bad. Gameday says he tried to stretch his single into a double, but was out. So’ I’d guess that play at 2nd.
Trusted Member
12 days ago
Is the game vs the Royals not in Phoenix somewhere? How is it not also canceled?
Last edited 12 days ago by TrojanBoiler
Super Member
12 days ago
in Surprise, NW part of valley.
its mainly wet here, not a lot of rain. there are games across the Valley today, some are cancelled, some are not
Last edited 12 days ago by RexFregosi
Trusted Member
12 days ago
Interesting. I get that Phoenix is a huge spread out area but just kind of figured rain would be rain anywhere in the valley.
Super Member
12 days ago
they are playing now in Maryvale and Mesa – Tempe is between them – they could have played a game
Legend
12 days ago
The Angels had already pulled starters from that game I suspect the D Backs were doing the same so they probably said screw it.
Super Member
12 days ago
game in Tempe cancelled and no video from Surprise
Legend
12 days ago
No TV? So John Sherman is even cheaper than cheap Arte?
Super Member
12 days ago
its kind of amazing to see how little ST games are televised each day. Angels are about the only team that broadcasts all of them. Hardly any other teams do this.
Legend
12 days ago
Dbacks game canceled do to weather
