LA Angels Weekend News Crash: I’ll Trade Ya

MLB GM’s are in the lunch room with all their goodies on full display. And while the Angels have a nasty room temperature tuna sandwich as a main course, they do have a Capri Sun and a cookie that the cooler kids might want in a trade.

Who might Perry trade? We’ve talked about it a ton here and other publications are making predictions.

Sam Blum is predicting Arte to hold onto anybody controlled beyond 2024, which would be a mistake. If you have The Athletic, this is worth a read.

Reid Detmers is drawing plenty of trade interest. I wonder what other teams see that the Angels have failed to develop.

Of course, trades aren’t the only way to add talent. The Angels have signed many of their 2024 draftees including first rounder Christian Moore and 11th rounder Trey Gregory-Alford.

In a big blow to the Angels, third round draft pick Ryan Prager announced he will return as the Texas A&M ace in 2025. Not only do the Angels miss out on a chance to add a talented pitcher, they will not be able to allocate his slot bonus elsewhere.

A few late draft picks remain unsigned and 19th round Hail Mary Connor Gatwood will head to college instead of the paid ranks. But for the most part, Perry has secured the real talent he drafted outside of Prager.

There was also baseball this week including a sweep of the Mariners. Scoring wins behind Tyler Anderson and Jose Soriano made sense, but it was Griffin Canning with a stud performance in the sweep clincher.

Our Highlight of the Week comes from game one of that sweep. Look at Jo Adell settle down and drive the ball up the middle rather than come out of his shoes swinging for the fences. He’s done that quite a bit lately. Growth? I hope so.

Elsewhere around baseball, confirmed lowlife cheater Alex Cora signed on to stay in the city of lowlife cheating sports figures and I caused a bit of a tizzy by stating so.

I’m sure plenty of news will break this weekend regarding trades so please help us keep this post up to speed.

Enjoy your weekend. Summer in Southern California is the best.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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4 months ago

Estevez gone to Phillies for their #23 and #28 (MLB rated) pitching prospects

Pineapple12
Super Member
4 months ago

Caden Dana tonight:

9 IP | 3 H | 2 R | 2 ER | 1 BB | 10 K

FungoAle
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

High School draftee with upside

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

Stupid Perry

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

He looks great!

I wonder when the trainers will inject him with “Arte’s Remedy” serum that broke Newcomb and Detmers?

Pineapple12
Super Member
4 months ago

Angels manager Ron Washington on the trade deadline: “No matter who we have left, we will have O’Hoppe, Neto, Schanuel, Moniak. That core is going to be here. Mike (Trout), Rendon are going to be here and we are going to perform with whatever we have.”

https://x.com/mikehuntley63/status/1817001403870847457?t=mr3RnJdEYI2wPl55USYY9w&s=19

Pineapple12
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Im not putting too much stock in Wash omitting Adell, because he didn’t name Joyce or Soriano either.

Twebur
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4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

You know O’Hoppe and Neto and Schanuel and Moniak…..
Adell and Joyce and Soriano and Dana
……..…but do recall, the most famous reindeer of all?

Rengifo the red-nosed reindeer, had a very shiny bat
and if you ever saw it
you’d see it go wack

All of the CTPG guys
Used to laugh and call him names
They never let poor Rengifo
Join in any baseball games

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

Nice

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

And he includes Moniak.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

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steelgolf
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4 months ago

Why do they put Drury in the 4 hole?

Pineapple12
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

not as bad as the leadoff hitter

steelgolf
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

True.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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4 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

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Cowboy26
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4 months ago

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/07/orioles-to-acquire-zach-eflin-from-rays.html

So how does Zac Efflin compare to Tyler Anderson? (I noticed they both are under contract through next year) Should we expect a similar better or worse return for TA?

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

A quick look at Baseball Reference show 2 similar pitching records, with age being the biggest difference.
Anderson IP 1067.0 ERA 4.18 FIP 4.31 WHIP 1.266 H9 8.6 HR9 1.2 BB9 2.8 SO9 7.5
Eflin   IP  947.0  ERA 4.26 FIP 4.03 WHIP 1.229 H9 9.2 HR9 1.3 BB9 1.9 SO9 7.8

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

With Monday’s scheduled off day , the Angels wont need to fill the 5th starter blackhole Until next Saturday August 3rd. It looks like the newest Angel acquisition is making a debut at the Great Salt Lake tomorrow so will we be seeing Johnny Cueto in an Angel uniform next Saturday?

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Trout news. Davis Daniel recalled.

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Last edited 4 months ago by AngelsFanInHell
Twebur
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4 months ago

All I see is Rosenburp gone, Dav Dan up. Trout is Trout’ing

Nothing has changed, same as it ever was.

Last edited 4 months ago by Twebur
AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I don’t understand your comment. I tore the tendon in my ankle playing tennis and a lot of scar tissue built up. My ankle looks ugly, but felt fine after the inside scar tissue broke up.

Last edited 4 months ago by AngelsFanInHell
Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

Just that Trout is frequently hurting himself, or recovering from hurting himself.

And the deck chair reshuffling of SP.

And yes, I know scar tissue is a bitch.

Last edited 4 months ago by Twebur
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

And Trout just doesn’t heal very fast from any injury.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Trout was injured watching his wife give birth.

He knows what scar tissue is, you’re telling me the docs didn’t tell him to expect some pain when coming back? C’mon – no more excuses for the guy. He’s getting paid half-billion dollars to be on the field. You don’t go ask to get pulled from a game every time something is sore.

He was amazing before he hit age 28 and signed the mega-contract. If we get 80 games out of the guy per season now it’s a freaking miracle.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Trout is Aslan…. rumors abound and at some point he’s gonna show up and do some cool shit

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago

…and then the ball hits him in the arm and he’s Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvmnLgrd-Q

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

Over under on Season Ending TJ Knee Surgery date is August 15th.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’ll take the under.

Twebur
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4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

$500,000 Eppei Bucks on the over. One more tease that he’s coming back.

Last edited 4 months ago by Twebur
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

IIIIII….. don’t care anymore.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I don’t understand your comment either.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I know some of yall may want this from the trade SIMs thing, but now they make you pay so here….

O’s Phillies trade was a shrug. Hays (0.6)/Dominguez(-0.7)

O’s/Rays Efflin was worth (17.2) and that pile of prospects was worth(11.7) with Horvath being the big get. #10 prospect.

Mariners/Blue Jays Garcia was worth (1.3) and Clase is worth (4.1) and Sharp’s a toss in with no lising.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Eflin’s off the board and was probably the best “non splash” starter candidate. So now teams will shift to guys like our Anderson a bit. Or spend bigger in a guy like Taillon.

It’s not a suprise that the team with the biggest pile of +++ prospects got Eflin.

It is of note, for some of us, that Eflin did not net a #1 prospect.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

Doyers do like bringing guys back home. Still hear on the intrawebs they want Anderson.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

Jerrah’ on the phone, making more trades. Yumi Yumi!

The Mariners and Blue Jays are in agreement on a trade sending right-handed reliever Yimi Garcia from Toronto to Seattle, reports ESPN’s Jeff

 Passan. Outfielder 

Jonatan Clase is among the players headed back to Toronto. Minor league catcher 

Jacob Sharp is also going to the Jays in the deal, 

reports 

 Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I think this is good for us as the more available relievers that are traded to teams we have a no/seldom trade policy the more suitors are left for an Estevez trade.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

The Phillies have interest in Angels closer Carlos Estévezreports Scott Lauber of the Philadelphia Inquirer. The Halos are expected to trade the hard-throwing righty before next Tuesday’s deadline.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Aidan Miller would work.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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We’re likely not getting their 2nd best prospect (55 grade) for 2 months of a closer. But maybe we could snag Saltiban or Rincones Jr and some down list guy, maybe Klassen….

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 months ago

I was more posturing as I know that it is not likely realistic. But… they really need him and so could a few others. He’s only worth what someone is willing to pay.

FungoAle
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4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Toss in Trout, get Stott and a prospect.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

If only it was that easy.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Oh goody cuz we know Dombrowski ‘s favorite motto is

F’ them prospects.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

If we trade with the Phills there is a good chance we can get an above value starter prospect back because the Phils rotation is stacked and they have Painter and Abel in the wings.

So maybe a Klassen or an Aldegheri type pitching prospect…. maybe sneak a guy like Jalvin Arias too. That would be a realistic “big win”.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Perry was captured on video practicing before the trade deadline. https://youtu.be/Ag6DtzRUF5U?si=eeVW50ZAQzb4tdMI

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

A always thought running my fantasy football team (serious league, strong desire to win, with friends same group, very competitive, over 30 years) wasn’t much different to the real thing.

GM’ing is hard. Go PTP!

https://sports.yahoo.com/what-is-it-like-to-be-an-mlb-gm-at-the-trade-deadline-140055789.html

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

Is this article about how stupid Perry is? If not it’s fake news.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

It seems to say horse trading is more interesting, fun and exciting when you have high quality horses to trade with.

And Perry is in the article, GM’s call him, but only because he’s stupid and they know they can fleece him.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Twebur

They will trade us Olthof…..

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Of course because you are your own cantankerous owner.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Owner…….and GM…..also POFO, and advance scout.
Even had a Arte moment long ago when I traded a Running Back because he signed with the Steelers. I hate the Steelers.

John Henry Weitzel
Editor
Super Member
4 months ago

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The Angels have been the best team in Baseball over the last 4 years against pitchers making their MLB debut

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 months ago

But…but… what about Cy Rookie?

John Henry Weitzel
Editor
Super Member
4 months ago

WE are the Cy Rookie Now

John Henry Weitzel
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Super Member
4 months ago

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Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

Skip the base running segment.

August 10th: Angels Camp – Stadium SeriesThe Angels Camp – Stadium Series, presented by Chick-fil-A SoCal, Angel Stadium on Saturday, August 10th! This one-day event aims to provide kids, ages 6-12, with the unique opportunity to play baseball on the field at the Big A. Participants will rotate through multiple stations, learning different aspects of the game such as hitting, pitching, defense, baserunning, and character development.

https://links.mlb.mlbemail.com/e/evib?_t=4ccb9e82a5154c158cf6a452113ea814&_m=9039c8884aaa4c6fac511bdb65c48be7&_e=-UwD1wX11MVFRWDh45UEnkKEbJT7Xp1qw75C_coAgIOMEhaoBTaonFwJDjzE1TXZFvd7uj35XUDq0tZ2xXuqTg%3D%3D

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

Fkn Arte. What an asshole. He probably wants to eat some children before the DNC starts.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

Chick-fil-A has a basement, it’s just like the pizza place in NY where Hillary eats.

TapatioMan
Trusted Member
4 months ago

It’s crazy to think that the Angels (probably) have one of the most desirable jobs once Arte is gone.

Only then will we be able to bring in front office people who can really turn this thing around. Sigh.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Because UnicornBigDaddyNewOwner?

What if UnicornBigDaddyNewOwner is the second coming of Jackie “Let’s contract the team” Autry, would this be such a “desirable” place in the NewOwner fantasy??

I won’t miss Arte when he leaves, if he does. But do you remember who Arte outbid to buy the Angels in the first place.

Yeah, frank McCourt. And there would have been no Guggenheim rescue here.

TapatioMan
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Don’t scare me Marco

hockey_duckie
Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Marcotor

I’m hoping the Ducks owners, the Samueli’s, get to buy the Angels. They have this whole OC Vibe community area plan in front of Honda Center being developed right now. It would be great to merge the Angels with the Ducks, which could also mean changing the name back to Anaheim.

I think the TV contract thing is running dry for Arte. If the profits dwindle, then so does his presence. He’s trying to milk for more money for the sale, but I don’t think the value is going up.

The sooner Arte and his family sell, the faster we get out of hell.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago

we need to trade the expiring contracts for whatever we can get. On the subject of Ward, Rengifo and Anderson, unless we can get something amazing, it wouldn’t be the end of the world to wait until the off-season to let a new GM take a shot at it. However, moving TA now would be best. His value will never be higher.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago

So, Mike Trout? Any further report? My two cents is he should’ve gotten the other surgery, the more permanent solution. However, with Trout it probably wouldn’t have made much of a difference either way. No reason to bring him back this year no matter what.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Longer to takes to get an update, the more likely it’s bad news…………trAdition

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Who?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

Trout is definitively the champion of “just resting up for next year”. Like a norse giant.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

GOAT at Load Management?

-Kawhi Leonard

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Twebur

Actually, Leonard reminds me of Rendon. “He just doesn’t care enough to not have real injuries that limit him”.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago

Not being able to sign your third round pick is more than, “oh well.” It’s yet another fail for a farm system that is seriously depleted. I wonder who will be the next intern to replace current intern Minasian.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I understand we get an extra compensatory pick next year, somewhat lower but a better draft class. Maybe a new GM will pick better, so possibly a silver lining.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I was wondering about that. So maybe we find some luck on the backend of this mistake next year.

Don’t get your hopes up on PTP’s dismissal. I highly doubt Art even follows the draft outside of the 1st pick, not likely to get pissy about a young kid’s decision that had options…..with that said, looks like another blunder, not creating more confidence, that’s for sure.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Im not sure picking better is the problem. The Angels 2022 draft may go down as one of their stronger drafts in the 15 years ( That may not be saying much but you got to start somewhere)

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I agree and even though the Angels get a 3rd comp pick next year I would consider this a fireable offense consider the state of the farm system.
But I think it is important for this organization to know why this happened. for example is it: 

  • The result of poor communications with Prager prior to the draft leading to false indications of his sign ability and demands?
  • Did the Angels miss the market altogether assuming that he would be imminently drafted by another team thereby preventing the Angels from taking him in the day 3 rounds where unsigned draft choices are much more common and not as damaging to a teams draft strategy ?
  • Or is this failure the result of botched negotiations with other over slot draft signees like Alford or Johnson & Johnson where the Angels probably got played from the draftee’s Advisor(s)?

Maybe it’s a combination of things that happened but Perry is ultimately in charge and many of the same doofuses (Doofi?) that were involved in this debacle will probably be around next year when the next GM is hired.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

In the grand scheme of baseball things, not being able to sign your third round pick is just about as “oh well” as it gets.

Charles Sutton
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Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

Great. I’m sure Sam the Hat thought it was important to announce that he will not be changing his superflous opinion on the Angels trade deadline plans that no-one cares about.

I feel so much better now.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Sam the Hat. Sam is hat Free. Free the Hat…Free Sam

steelgolf
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

So technically he can be categorized in the “Men without Hats” grouping?

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Do you disagree with his “superfluous” opinion?

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

No. just as I dont disagree with the “opinion” that water is wet. But I’m not getting paid for my insight unlike the Blumster who has somehow hoodwinked The NY Times.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Availability is the best ability. I think Jeff Fletcher‘s takes more vacation days than trout. At least Sam’s breathless report on the wetness of water is a daily one…….unless of course he’s in Pittsburgh cover the Pirates, not sure why. Maybe he’s got a big scoop on the ward trade? 😀😀😀😀😀

Free Sams Hat!
Bring back the Hat!

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Makes sense. I just don’t know what I would write about given the state of the franchise. It’s like nothing can realistically change until Arturo sells. So I’m willing to give him a little leeway.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

His article about the trade deadline was actually one of his better ones and likely one that most here would agree with. However, here’s a quote from Perry ““To talk about next season and the season after that, for me doesn’t necessarily make sense.”

Yes Perry, and that is exactly the problem. No long term plan.