LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Draft Article

Welcome to our Thursday links. Our draft pick articles got started off by cookmeister. There will be others. Who do you think the Angels should draft?

MLB and the MLBPA will expand the financial assistance already provided to still living players from the Negro Leagues in recognition of their contributions to the sport of baseball despite adversity.

That injury Xander bogaerts got a couple of days ago is a fractured shoulder. He will miss a significant amount of time.

The Mariners just selected the contract of Jhonathan Diaz. The Rays designated Erasmo Ramirez for assignment.

David Fletcher continues to play in the minor leagues while he is being investigated for the illegal gambling allegations.

Is Granderson available? Well, yeah. At least for interviews about robot umps.

The Minnesota Twins continue playing with their rally sausage. Topps produced a limited series of 110 baseball cards of the fan who got hit by the 110 MPH Bo Bichette foul ball and will give all 110 cards to her. She should autograph them all, amirite?

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Twebur
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21 days ago

Always be thankful for the problems you don’t have…..we could be the White Sox’s

https://x.com/NBCSWhiteSox/status/1793837883142402434

Twebur
Legend
21 days ago

Should he stay, or should he go?
And if he stays, there will be doubles
So come on and let perry know

The Angels re-signed LHP Amir Garrett to a minor league deal.
https://x.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1793405631052874023

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Well apparently no one was interested so we resigned the guy we released. Makes total sense.

Cowboy26
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21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Plus he throws left handed.

FungoAle
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21 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Hire Lil Davey to teach Amir a knuckleball. Might have better luck at finding the plate.

Eric_in_Portland
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21 days ago

wow, Colorado is pretty bad. Scored 4 in the top of the 11th to lead 9-5, then gave up 5 to the A’s in the bottom half, including a walk-off walk.

smithy610
Super Member
21 days ago

Slow news day

Why does Wash do the mound visits often?

Washington said that’s who he has been ever since he started managing in the big leagues with the Texas Rangers in 2007. He has never abided by the standard protocol that the manager only goes to the mound to make a pitching change.

“When it’s something that I want to deliver, I can’t tell the pitching coach to deliver it because I know he’s not gonna deliver it the way I would,” Washington said. “I want them to hear it directly from me. That’s why I do it.”

Washington said he never wants to regret that he sat in the dugout without even trying to say something that could help the pitcher.

As pitchers recalled their visits with Washington, they said that the message is never about pitching mechanics or strategy. That comes from pitching coach Barry Enright.

“I don’t know (expletive) about pitching,” Washington quipped. “All I knew with pitching was how to knock the (expletive) out of it.”

Instead, when Washington comes to the mound, it’s going to be a pep talk. The exact tone – stern, supportive, funny – is determined by the pitcher and the situation.

“When he goes out there, it’s purposeful, to motivate you or hold you accountable,” Enright said. “It’s ‘Hey, get your (expletive) together. You can do this, and this is why.’”

The more important question is, is Wash effective in this strategy?

Left-hander Amir Garrett got his first visit from the 72-year-old Washington during the reliever’s second game with the Angels.

Washington waved off the catcher and other infielders so he could have a one-on-one with Garrett.

“We brought you here to get these three guys,” Washington said, recalling his words to Garrett. “Of all the guys down in that bullpen, we chose you, man. Because we know you can do it. So what are you gonna do?”

Garrett responded by striking out the next two hitters on his way to a scoreless inning.

“He blew them away,” Washington said.

Washington’s “record” after his visits has some blemishes. On Sunday he came to visit starter José Soriano as he tried to coax one more out from him with two outs in the eighth, but Soriano issued a walk and gave up a hit and needed to be replaced.

Mostly, though, the pitchers seem to get the job done after Washington’s visits.

“Ron Washington’s got a lot of weight in this game,” veteran left-hander Matt Moore said. “He can maybe wake you up to a situation. It’s definitely a nice tactic to deploy.”

Washington visited Moore just after he’d allowed a two-run homer to cut a four-run lead in half on in the eighth inning on April 15 against Tampa Bay.

“He just came out to let me know that’s behind us, so let’s get these next three and we’ll be alright,” recalled Moore, who did retire the next three hitters.

To some pitchers, the words Washington says aren’t as important as the message he sends by leaving the mound without making a change.

“If he comes out and doesn’t take you out, it shows the confidence he has in you,” said left-handed starter Patrick Sandoval, who stuck around to record the final out of the seventh inning after a Washington pep talk on May 7.

On Wednesday, Washington came to visit Tyler Anderson with dangerous Yordan Alvarez and Alex Bregman due in a tie game. Washington stuck with Anderson and the left-hander retired them both.

Washington’s visits have become so routine that no one who has watched the Angels is surprised when he pops out of the dugout instead of Enright.

And that’s fine with Enright.

“To have someone who is fully tuned in to the pitching staff and wants to be involved is really special,” Enright said.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
21 days ago

Looking at Moniak’s advanced metrics, I feel bad for what the guy is going through this year. His plate discipline has been much better this season actually.

Strikeout rate is down from 35% to 28%
Walk rate is up from 2.8% to 5.3%
Chase rate is down from 48% to 34%
Contact rate is up from 64% to 76%

Where he is suffering is power and BABIP:

Barrel rate is down from 13% to 8%
Hard hit rate is down from 37% to 29%
BABIP is .243 instead of the insane .397 he posted last year

Cowboy26
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21 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Very interesting TB. Wash has made comments in the past that in his opinion Moniak was trying too hard to hit the ball out but the numbers do not show that at all.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I think Wash could be right and still jive with the metrics. If I think about golf – when I try to murder the ball, I still make contact but the quality of my contact sucks so bad that I end up hitting it with less power. Maybe something similar is going on with Mick?

Overall contact rate is probably up due to chasing less often, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t swinging like a mad man at pitches in the zone.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  TrojanBoiler

His stats were obviously overinflated last season with the .397 BABIP. The MLB average BABIP in 2023 was .297, thus Moniak was not as good as he looked last season – nor as bad as he’s looked thus far this season.

His ceiling is likely league average (RC+ 100), which is fine for a 4th outfielder / backup.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago

So he should not be a starter or and every day player. An RC+ 100 guy is not an average hitting outfielder. I had hoped he was somewhat better. Which means if you trade Ward, you need another OF.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I made an error and meant to use wRC+ as the metric.

wRC+ takes the statistic Runs Created and adjusts that number to account for important external factors — like ballpark or era. It’s adjusted, so a wRC+ of 100 is league average and 150 would be 50 percent above league average.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago

Your points were good and that”s the way I understood what you were saying and I understand WC+. What I was trying to say is that a score of 100 is average for the league as a whole and the averages by position are different. SS, 2B and catchers, don’t hit as well as corner infielders and outfielders so the average WRC+ by position is different. A score of 100 is average for the league but below average for OFs. All I was trying to say is that if Moniak is truly WRC+ 100 hitter, I don’t want him starting or playing everyday as opposed to a SS with a score of 100 who plays good defense. A player like that is fine as 4th outfielder. Adell is probably closer to 130 and Ward 120 right now which is what you want.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

His BABIP from last season is the textbook definition of unsustainable. In my mind that was always a caveat for my expectations with him.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
21 days ago
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halofansince1978
Super Member
21 days ago

If Moniak and Paris join the under 25 club Banned suggested the name of Super 6.

This silly cartoon series from the sixties came up in a random search of Super Six.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Maybe Motel 6?

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TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
21 days ago

Because they are cheap and low quality?

Twebur
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Mick not deserving at all, Paris to early to proclaim him, Neto probably out for who knows how long (whatever we think, add 1.5 months).

So we are now down to 3. The Killer Triplets? The Trilogy? The 3 Amigos?
The ménage à trois?

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Twebur

“The Ménage”

Cowboy26
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21 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Make it the Quartet. You can add back in whoever we draft on July 14th. I have no idea who it is but he will instantly become one of our starters.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Just cheap. It’s too soon to determine the quality…..even if huffing on hopium all afternoon.

Pineapple12
Super Member
21 days ago

Technically, the Mick is 26. Wash turning Paris into our 2B of the future would siiiiiick.

Twebur
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21 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Technically, the Mick is hitting close to .150. He’s not eligible. The only club he should be part of, “The Bench Jockeys”. Back to 5.

And, we shouldn’t rush this Paris thing, let’s see what he does on the next home stand, where we are 6-16 and play like shit.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Twebur

The only ménage à trois for Moniak is AAA in Salt Lake City

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago

Ok you’re officially old like me if you remember watching that show. “And a bolt who is a nut!”

red floyd
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21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

That wasn’t a Jay Ward production, was it?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

No. DePatie–Freleng Enterprises and Mirisch-Rich Television Productions. Theme song was sung by Gary Lewis and the Playboys. It was a dumb Saturday morning cartoon show but I remember watching it as kid. They actually only produced one season and ran it 3 years in a row.

halofansince1978
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I’m 70 now…still crawling under Corvairs on purpose.

But, I do have a handy 10K Bend Pak lift now a days.

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halofansince1978
Super Member
21 days ago

Let’s give the nickname Danger Mouse to somebody…hilarious cartoon.

But who would be his faithful best friend Ernest Penfold the hamster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_Mouse_(1981_TV_series)

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Willie is 5′ 8″

halofansince1978
Super Member
21 days ago

Calhoun would be perfect for the hamster…Trout for Danger Mouse?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago

The Hamster is an awesome nickname.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago

Good for you 78. That explains why you’re so cantankerous 🙂

halofansince1978
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Thanks Roy. I been a Corvair Nut since I was 9 or so…it’s my Dad’s fault.

RexFregosi
Super Member
21 days ago

kids (but to earn a name, you’d better play better)

the obvious one is the cherubs or cherubim.

or, since the hopium imagines the next Trout or Salmon

the guppies

Pineapple12
Super Member
21 days ago

20-30, with our next 6 games at home vs. the 2nd and 3rd best teams in baseball (NYY, CLE). Let’s get greedy and take all 6.

C – O’Hoppe (24)
1B – Schanuel (22)
2B – Paris (22)
SS – Neto (23)
3B – Rengifo (27)
OF – Adell (25)
OF – Trout (33)
OF – Moniak (26) / Rada (18) 🔜

SP – Soriano (25), Detmers (25), Sandoval (27), Canning (28), Silseth (24), Dana (20)

Trading Anderson and Ward should be considered no-brainer moves, and I’d give heavy consideration towards trading Canning and Rengifo.

Now we wait for news on Neto’s elbow … 🙏🙏🙏

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Pineapple12

Luckily the CtPG paparazzi got video and a quote as Neto was boarding the aircraft home:

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We won’t know the extent of the injury until “Mom and Dad” (aka Perry and Arte) diagnose the elbow and develop a treatment plan.

Last edited 21 days ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
Pineapple12
Super Member
21 days ago

Dr. Carpino is on the case !

Angelz4ever
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Dr. Kavorkian had zero patient complaints once his treatment plans were completed.

Twebur
Legend
21 days ago

Neto kinda looks like Bart Simpson…..if he ever gets healthy enough to play for us, he’s AKA BART.

And we might as well play Otto the bus driver more often too.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

I like that.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

I like Bart for Neto.

max
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max
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Barto?

WallyChuckChili
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21 days ago
Reply to  max

Nart?

Angelstan
Trusted Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

The enthusiasm is good. As we all know, in addition to youth, you need certain quality vets also. One reason they are 20-30 with some positive vibe, instead of 15-35 with trainwreck mojo, is because of Ward and Anderson. Allow everything to play out. No need to make knee jerk moves just in the name of getting younger. Teams that go all in on that become the Pirates for 20 years.

Pineapple12
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Angelstan

I hear ya and agree. We should toss note Pillar, Calhoun, Rengifo, Sandy, Griff, Soriano, Strickland for reasons why we’ve been better.

I am not trying to champion a team full of guys 25 and under. Moreso pointing out the fact that the young core of this team is already here and playing well.

Exciting times. Gonna be a fun season (assuming Neto isn’t donezo)

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Angelstan

You absolutely have to move anderson. You flip him for younger pitching with upside. If the angels are out of it, he has to go. He’s the perfect candidate.

FungoAle
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  Angelstan

Trade Anderson, opens up a slot for Jose Suarez to regain his Sicario moniker

JackFrost
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

“Take all 6.” ????  😂  😂 

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Except You’ll need another OF unless Moniak becomes something different. I could see them keeping Ward.

JackFrost
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

To what end ? Why would you trade Anderson and Ward? Unless you are talking about trading them for already established players it would be stupid. And in Tyler’s case we need pitching more than anything, so unless you are trading him for a younger established pitcher it probably wouldn’t make sense. If you got a lopsided offer of young, talented arms then maybe you bite. But I am assuming no GM is going to go overboard with an offer like that. I say keep him. Next year we could quite easily do a Royals like turnaround and make the playoffs. The talent is there but we will need SP.

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

This team has all the complementary pieces but is still short two middle of the order bats along with the pitching. I would not bet on Anderson being good next year but ward is inexpensive production.

JackFrost
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

The Royals don’t have “two middle of the order bats” and look what they are doing. They have Witt Jr batting second and Perez batting 3rd and the rest of em are a rag-tag bunch of journeymen. Next year we get Trout back (presumably) and I expect Ward to put up decent offensive numbers despite his defensive shenanigans in OF. I think we can also expect Adell to continue improving. I think it is also a good bet that Moniak will bounce back next season if not the second half this year…

Last edited 21 days ago by JackFrost
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I disagree about Moniak. and I don’t expect Adell to get better than he is now (a130 OPS+ hitter). I’m not convinced with the Royals. Adell can probably hit 5th and if trout hits 2nd, we don’t have any one to hit 3rd or 4th. Ward is not a middle of the order hitter and with trout’s injury issues, I would definitely want two middle of the order hitters.

JackFrost
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Don’t know how you say that Ward is not a middle of the order hitter when he did it successfully the last TWO seasons until getting injured.

Last edited 21 days ago by JackFrost
Twebur
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Whoever is the GM of the Angels going forward, should basically make roster plans for a nonexistent Trout. If he’s there great, but don’t count on him be being a fixture anymore.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Because he’s not. Ward was a well below average hitter prior to 2021 when he was essentially average, in 2022 he was above average enough to be a middle of the order hitter (one year in his entire career), In 2023 he was he was average again, and this year so far he is above average, but not enough to hit 3rd or 4th. And this year, he’s an out machine because his on base average is low. He is an above average hitter who is a good complementary player, but he is not by any definition a middle of the order hitter. Joe Adell has some of the same issues and he’s been slumping so his SLG Avg which was like .550 is now down to .500. I believe that ideally your #3 and #4 hitters should have OBAs of .350 or better and SLG Avgs of .500 or better. Slugging is very important for your #5 hitter so as long as he has .500 SLG pct his OBA is not as important. Taylor Ward is not that guy. Jo Adell has the potential to be a #5 hitter if he can keep his SLG Avg at .500 or better. Currently, Heefo is hands down our best hitter by any measure. That is why I say Ward is not a middle of the order hitter. He would be perfect at #6. He used to be good at #1 or #2 when he got on base, but he doesn’t do that any more. I’ll be interested to see where ends up at the end of the season.

JackFrost
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Lmao.

As regards Ward; you say his “on base average is low.” Since when is OBP an important stat for middle of the order guys? That is important for a lead-off guy or people hitting second. The guys in the middle of the order need to drive in runs.

Ward does that! He has 29 RBI’s already, which is 8th among all outfielders (the people usually hitting in the “middle of the oder.”) Not only that, Ward is among the leaders in all the important production categories there. He is in the Top 10 for OF in OPS, SLG, HR’s and RBI’s.

You say his SLG. is too low. Well, he’s at .475 which is again in the top ten for all outfielders. And you say he is only an above average hitter who is simply “a good complementary player.” Well, to me a “middle of the order hitter” — which he clearly IS, is much more than a complementary player. Those guys are an essential part of your team. Ward is that for the Angels. In my book if you are Top 10 for your position that makes you more than above average. It makes you WELL above average or even really good. Not sure what you have against Ward, but he is clearly well suited to be a middle of the order guy. He’s quite good at it in fact.

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

We’ll have to agree to disagree.
When all positions are included Ward is 20th in slugging and 24th in OPS.

Last edited 21 days ago by Roy Hobbs
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

He’s actually 12th in HRs and 17th is RBIs.

JackFrost
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I was looking at AL Outfielders. In that group he is Top 10 in all the categories I mentioned. In any case, it is more impressive in that position group since there are many more outfielders to compete with than say if you were a 3B or SS.

Correction: it was the entire MLB. You are calling him 12th in HR’s when he is not. He is tied with Trout at 7th (each with 10 HR’s). Two other guys are tied at 5th with 11 HR’s each. Nice try of pushing him further down the list though …

Last edited 21 days ago by JackFrost
FungoAle
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Anderson needs to go, now. Major implosion happening any day now.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
22 days ago

Who is this Anderson guy, for that matter who is this Paris character?  😃 

halofansince1978
Super Member
22 days ago

We wont win or lose today!!!

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