LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Heat Seeker

Zach Neto fields a heat seeker that nearly took out Adam Cimber.

Who gets that final Angels bench spot? Jahmai Jones just got claimed off waivers by the Yankees. Fellow infielder Jordan Groshans got DFAd in the corresponding move. The spring training shuffle is in full swing. The Rockies just claimed Sam Hilliard from the Orioles who just signed Kolten Wong to a minor league deal. Tim Locastro got his minor league deal with the Padres.

Mason Thompson will undergo his second Tommy John surgery.

Now Tim Wakefield and his wife Stacy have both passed away from cancer in less than five months. They had two children.

Set Up Men Out Of Commission

The Guardians have to shut down their set up man, Trevor Stephan(ino), for a few weeks due to a deep bone bruise on his right elbow. The Mariners lost both of their set up men. Matt Brash and Gregory Santos both have arm trouble. Brash’s entire season may even be in jeopardy.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago

We are DEVO. We are now a Rays Starting pitcher..

https://www.mlb.com/news/chris-devenski-to-be-stretched-out-by-rays

2GA2Join
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1 month ago

Heyman says we are still interested in Votto… maybe we’re watching Sano’s at-bats…

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Adrianza hit another dinger today so unless the Angels want to Jettison one of Hicks, Ward, Moniak or Adell there’s no room in the Inn.

https://twitter.com/WINCINNATI_/status/1761116574646145223

Last edited 1 month ago by Cowboy26
ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Since the team isn’t really going for it this year I think Votto makes sense if we’re trying to reboot the culture and surround the young guys with helpful veterans. Votto seems like a vibes signing kind of like Brett Phillips was. Not ideal if you think you’re a wild card team…but maybe smart if you think youre a year or two away and want someone like Schanuel to learn from a guy who also played 1B and took lots of walks.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Heyman is not a reliable source.

Last edited 1 month ago by Fansince1971
Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

He is for BorAss

Angelstan
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1 month ago

I know it’s just spring training. But I like some of the “other guys” I have seen that are vying for roster spots. Angels might have some depth options.

I don’t like Stephenson having shoulder stuff. Not good.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago

Neto’s BOMB this afternoon

https://x.com/MLBONFOX/status/1763305912247222701?s=20

Looked 440+ dead center off the upper part of batters eye

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

Come on Zach, give me a 0.275+ BA this year

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago

Tony Clark is well on his way to becoming the new Too Damn High Meme

Pic reference as well as MLB salary increased 7% to $4.5 million average per player:
https://www.thescore.com/s/26557586

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Funny how MLB mimics the everyday persons world… those very few with a crazy amount of money and the vast majority that scratch & claw to make ends meat

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago

Except the poor baseball players make 750k a year.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

For sure, 50-60% is taken out for taxes, agents fees and such. Plus grown men playing a game for kids, 400k isn’t too bad

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago

But your statement is accurate non the less.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Not sure if the ‘and such’ includes costs for personal maintenance, nutrition, etc. I do know some NFL players (yes different sport entirely) spend upwards of 300k a year on the aforementioned. Thought is only that the ones on the lower end don’t see nearly that amount in their account end of year.

RexFregosi
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1 month ago

I’d be shocked if Ehire Adrianza doesn’t make the team

Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

21 HRs in 1,368 MLB ABs

RexFregosi
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1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

i would be happy with singles, fundamental baseball, health and defense

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

This must be new found Power it would appear since hes only averaged 1 HR per 73 Plate Appearances over 616 game MLB career. I guess its never too late to start Roidin up.

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Tommy LaStella Part Deux ???

DowningDude
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1 month ago

A fun little comparison for Ohtani’s recent marriage announcement:
Trout before marriage:
Average of 147.5 games per year (6 years)

Trout after marriage:
Average of 102.2 games per year (5 years, ignoring shortened 2020 season)

Last edited 1 month ago by DowningDude
RexFregosi
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

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He’s going to be the fat doyer

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

You’d think Trout would want to get out of the house more.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Women….am I right?!

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

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Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago

I thought we agreed that the last bench spot was Eric in Portland’s to lose.  🙂 

MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I think he’s claiming he’s too injured to break camp with the 26 man.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago

Angels manager Ron Washington said Thursday that he’s hoping to have O’Hoppe make 125-to-135 starts at catcher this season, Rhett Bollinger of MLB.com reports.

So pencil in Thiass for the other 37 or so

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Based on last year, that would be 30+ HRs for our starting catcher, hopefully with improved BA and OBA.

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I’d be cool with 20-25 homers if the AVG/OBP moved up by 20 points.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago

That is a heavy workload for a young guy, but doable.

March 28th to September 29th is pretty much 6 months on the dot. 125/6 = 21 games per month. So that’s 9 or 10 days per month of rest.

Last edited 1 month ago by Jeff Joiner
ihearhowie3.0
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1 month ago

Sign me up for that

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

He absolutely destroyed AA and jumped straight to the majors. Assuming he’s not Brandon Wood 2.0, he’s going to be a very good hitter. The power will be there, it’s just a question of having a little plate discipline.

ihearhowie3.0
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

He seems extremely coachable and focused so I imagine his approach will evolve over the years as he gets to know pitchers

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

He’s definitely a +Athlete.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

That’s refreshing to hear. He’s strong.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago

RBJW/R15WARW on what he’s taught the infield thusfar.

“Just hands. How you use them. How you sync the feet up with the hands. Cutting angles. Just attacking the baseball really. And when I say attack the baseball, that sounds violent, but it’s not. All it is is, when the ball is put in play, you go to the ball and not let the ball come to you. So the word attack sounds violent, but it’s not violent.”

— Angels manager Ron Washington

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago

All good stuff that we teach our little leaguers but somehow doesn’t happen in the Angels minor league system? I should further qualify, we taught this to little league players in the 90s just like the local high school coaches.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I’m currently helping my 6 year old’s farm ball team and we are teaching the same things. Go get the ball.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Enjoy yourself, those years go by fast and everyone thinks their kid is going to be a major leaguer. The kids should just have fun and learn until they get into high school.

DMAGZ13
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1 month ago

So I coach high school tennis and have for a long time and all I do is teach and teach technique everyday. I’m learning about how baseball is taught through my son who is the 7-8 year old level of pony and when I hear Wash talk about what they’re working on I am totally confused on why it’s a revelation. I mean i love that Wash is working on these areas but isn’t that a part of their drills on the usual???

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Do we do medical evaluations before we sign these guys?

Twebur
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1 month ago

TrAdition

perfectly normal, perfectly natural.

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

Nothing to see here, just a typical start to the season for the Angels.

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago

For Fs sake, sign Snell already lmaoooo. Also fwiw, I like Wantz as a starter more than a reliever.

“Andrew Wantz has moved to a starter role, at least for now, Ron Washington said. He said the reason is a need for depth in the rotation.”

https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1763246700750409942?t=70KodqxWLc8L5z_LvXmKOw&s=19

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

What happens if there are no more signings and the team you see is what they go with for 2024?

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

TBH probably a similar record as last year’s team but without the Summer of Ohtani dread.

Twebur
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1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Loser CTPG guy prediction. I’ll take this and it a successful season.

75+ wins.
Finish ahead of A’ss and M’s.

See some of our young core show signs of real development, have the pitching become at least league average. Catch it and throw at least league average. And (not likely because trAdition) stay healthy for once, or at least, become league average.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

We won 73 last year. So….we agree?

Lack of dread was meant to be a good thing.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

I don’t see us finishing ahead of the Mariners, but anything is possible.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

Yah. I’d love it if the Angels were good this year, but if they only win 75 because the roster’s kind of weak and young players screw up some that’s OK. As long as we get to eventually see development. If the season’s meh but we see guys like Neto, O’Hoppe, Schanuel, Adell, Bachman, Detmers, Silseth, etc solidify then it’s actually a good season. If Trout actually plays a whole year, also great. Rengifo MVP? Cool beans. I pay attention to the Reds and Pirates so I know. A season with a win total in the 70s can be two very different things.

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I agree

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Then it will be like many here wanted, a year of evaluation. There will be some pleasant surprises and probably some disappointments. I believe the team will be interesting and entertaining to watch, win or lose, and it will be fun to see what the young guys do, but they’ll be a few players short of being a potential post season team. In my personal opinion, the Angels are a good starting pitcher and two impact bats short, even if the kids breakout. You have 2B, LF, DH, and 3B, as potential positions going forward to fill with impact players although Rendon is likely to prevent anything from happening at 3B. On the whole though, they will be more fun to watch because there will be no expectations and some of the youth may surprise us. We may even get to watch Trout have another MVP season.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

This. It is 162 games of Spring Training and we hopefully get to see the emergence of a core for a future run. The worse case scenario is the vast majority of the kids fail and we finally enter a rebuild.

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

True. I believe O’Hoppe and Schanuel are going to be good everyday players and Neto will play SS whether he hits or not. But if he hits well enough, in a few years they may consider moving him to 3B, and Rada plays short, or maybe Rada plays 2B. We’ll see what Mickey does this year. Worst case is he is an excellent 4th OF. But maybe, one or both of Neto and Mickey become a star. It will be fun to watch.

SchofieldsWalkoff
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

That would be quite a feat since Rada is projected as a CF and has yet to play an inning on the dirt professionally.

Last edited 1 month ago by SchofieldsWalkoff
Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Sorry, for some reason I thought he was SS so just forget I said anything.

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago

Today’s lineup. Another opportunity for Sano, penciled in as the DH with the starters.

Hicks starting and leading off over Mickey/Jo. My heart will break if Wash rolls Hicks as our 3rd OFer 💔🥺😭.

Ward has looked incredible thus far. He’s been a whipping boy at times by this fanbase (me included), but he’s solidly a full-time starter.

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Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

2023 WAR:

Moniak = 2.2 (85 games, 323 PAs)
Hicks = 0.4 (65 games, 236 ABs)
Adell = 0.3 (17 games, 62 PAs)

Do the right thing, Wash

Last edited 1 month ago by Pineapple12
halofansince1978
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Lets hope that Wash doesn’t have veteranitis like Scioscia.

I love me some Sosh but even I didn’t appreciate that part.

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago

He made earlier public statements that during the season he was going to play the guys who were performing, but as others here have already said, we’ll have to wait and see if that is really true.

Dogface1956
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I think veteran’s have a very high grittiness factor. In the world according to Scioscia you could never have enough grittiness that and for catchers CERA and grittiness.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Wash values defense. I’d give Hicks an opportunity to see if he can flash some of what he was doing a few years back before we go all in on Jo….but the leash shouldn’t be too long.

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Mickey graded out as an elite defender last season

Last edited 1 month ago by Pineapple12
ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Oh my bad I thought you were implying Adell over Hicks. I like Mickey

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I like Moniak, going as far as typing a piece saying I’d hand him center field next season.

But the fact of the matter is an abnormally high BABIP combined with horrible walk and strikeout rates does not project well.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

When it’s all said & done, Mickey is probably best suited as a 4th OF. Anything beyond that is a major boon.

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

If someone teaches him to control the strike zone. He could be a really good player.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

I love that Cimber thought his near decapitation was funny.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

I agree. He’s my new favorite player on the roster.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

At this rate, our Grapefruit League championship hopes are fading fast.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

But we’re undefeated in Grapefruit League action

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Angelz4ever

You mean Cactus League…although we’re not winning either so it doesn’t really matter

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

LOL, yeah, I haven’t finished my caffeination yet this morning. 

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago

I wonder if Trout and Sandoval attended Shohei’s wedding?

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

probably were going to. but 700 million things came up over the winter.

Mookie and Freddie attended instead.

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

The contract… $700 Million….
Your comment… Priceless

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago

Sign Snell and move Anderson to the pen.

1. Snell
2. Detmers
3. Sandoval
4. Canning
5. Silseth
“Depth” – Anderson-Plesac-Suarez (assuming we can get Suarez thru waivers to AAA).

It’s such an easy decision.

Last edited 1 month ago by Pineapple12
ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

This would be cooler but the way they’ve approached spending on infield depth makes me skeptical they’ll spend big on pitching depth. I see us signing Lorenzen.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Spending on depth is different than spending on a top starter. Lorenzen would be more like depth – but we have also spent money of Stephenson (for example).

We could use a starter to replace Ohtani. It might be cost, but as we get further into ST there should pressure on Snell and Montgomery to come down in terms (like Bellinger did).

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago

For sure. But if you’re Snell and you’re coming down or doing a deal like Bellinger with opt-outs, you might as well take a one year deal with the Dodgers or sign with a very defensive/pitchers park situation like the Giants.

I’d be interested if we got him…I just think we only get him if he we are the highest bidder by a significant margin.

Last edited 1 month ago by ihearhowie3.0
matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Yes, but the longer things play out, the less it costs to be that highest bidder (maybe even getting into a range Arte will bite on – knowing Trout and the ‘baseball guys’ want more pitching).

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’m hoping Suarez doesn’t clear waivers and is picked up by another team. That way they too can experience the magic that is Suarez giving up 5 runs after 2 quick outs.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

If we signed Snell or Montgomery we could probably trade Suarez for a MiLB piece.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

That probably isn’t how they would do it. Anderson would start and Silseth would either be in the bullpen or the minors.

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelstan

You are most likely correct. Silseth would start in AAA and Anderson will be #5. That is until Anderson puts up a 5+ ERA in 10 starts and forces the org’s hand for a permanent demotion to the ‘pen.

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I doubt even more now that we’ll sign Snell or Monty.

I was predicting
Snell NYY
Chapman SFG
Monty BOS

But now a Giants starter has gone down perhaps indefinitely. That will probably put them into the market for Snell or Monty also, and Boras knows it. I don’t expect any bargains.

I think the NYY and SFG will have a bidding war for Snell and the runner up will take Monty.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Same. I’ve always thought Clevinger or maybe Lorenzen due to price and the fact we already have a ton of lefties.

Detmers, Clevinger, Sandoval, Canning, Anderson with Silseth, Plesac, and Daniel in AAA would be better depth than we’re used to.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago

If the Ohtani’s get divorced and she gets half, will the Dodgers have to pay her half immediately?

Also if that happens, where do I send in my resume?

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago

more importantly, can she pitch?

Twebur
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

She doesn’t pitch, multiple TJ’s….
but like her husband, swings a mean bat.

https://youtu.be/ny85zo8f66I?si=Cg6ySddReQ0_2FQF

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Good question since he can’t right now.

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago

Alex, I’ll take “What are Japanese divorce laws for $600”

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

*$600Million

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

So, 600 m yen is like $4,017, 200.00 US approximately.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago

To him, or to her?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

No, she’d just appear on “Baseball wives of Japan” on Bravo.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 month ago

Heck-I lost my invite, oh darn it. 😃  Keep secret from the Press, television’ MLBTV and ESPN and the radio, tabloids, newspapers, and player’s wives. KOOL.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 month ago

 🎧  🎷  🎺  💌  💍 Congratulations Mr. & Mrs. Shohei Ohtani  🎵  🔔  🎶 

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