LA Angels Monday News Crash: Soto Returns

Livan Soto is back.

We won’t be seeing Shohei Ohtani in the spring opening game. His elbow is still too jacked up.

A Sacramento State player got hit seven times in eight plate appearances over the weekend. Do you think it’s personal? The Orioles acquired Matt Krook from the Yankees for cash.

The current story is that the Athletics will spend a couple of seasons in Sacramento before going to Las Vegas.

Somebody allegedly ratted out Billy Eppler, as if nobody could figure out what was going on. Heyman says he might even be back sooner than expected.

It’s official. Jorge Soler to the Giants.

Rob Manfred says he will step down in five years. Meanwhile, he still wants to mess around with the rules.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago

So you don’t want Bauer. Would you rather have Bauer for a year at league minimum with incentives or watch them pay $150 to $200 million for Snell?

you-see-what-I
Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

I just don’t want to have to look at him all year. I know that puts me in an ever-shrinking minority around here.

He’s not the piece that will put us over the edge, so why invite the drama? He’d just use us to rehab his image on a 1 year deal and move on.

Last edited 1 month ago by Mia
Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

100% agree. I personally want nothing to do with him. I’d rather have the team lose 100 games.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Well I think we all know you want that regardless…

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I really dont unless it would mean 100% that Arte would sell. Then I would make that deal.

Mikeal1st
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Tough but that makes it more interesting.

Mikeal1st
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1 month ago

Is it immoral to get a discount on a player because they enjoy punching women during copulation?
I am right, he admitted to concentual punching?

FungoAle
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1 month ago

Stumbled upon an enhanced broadcast of the 1979 Angels Orioles ALCS on YouTube just now. Nolan Ryan vs Jim Palmer dueling in the opener. Damn, Nolan looks good. 16 wins and 14 losses that year with 17 complete games. Typical Ryan stats. He was my gawd.

I forgot Campy Campaneris and Willie Davis were on the club. Joe Rudi, Lansford, Grich, Baylor, Downing and Carew. Great bats. Downing had a better average than Carew that year and 3rd highest in the AL.

Disco Dan Ford just homered in the first and Ryan struck out the side in the bottom half. Just cracked a beer and think I’ll settle in and watch.

Last edited 1 month ago by FungoAle
Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Not sure you’ll like the ending though.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Oh, I know the results just cool to see these guys in peak form. I usually don’t watch replays.

red floyd
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

They could have platooned two 8-7 pitchers for that game.

DowningDude
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1 month ago

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steelgolf
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

And “All your base are belong to us”

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Most luminous Herr Steelgolf

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I want what he’s having!  😀 

Twebur
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I study every match of this team.

I have too……We play like a giant stinky #2 more often than not.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Did Arte, Carpino and Kuhl get together and write that?

2GA2Join
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1 month ago

I hadn’t noticed this quote before from Trout (lifted from MLBTR):

When Trout was asked if he thought Moreno would actually get something done, he responded thusly: “Um, you know, it’s uh, yeah, no. You know how Arte is.”

 😂 

DowningDude
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1 month ago

Season Saved!
“Soto Returns”

RexFregosi
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1 month ago

Notes from the desert – Day 6 of 6 from Diablo – position players first official work out

Camp has been better than anticipated for a few reasons.
First the weather: perfect, low 70s.
Next, Diablo management got a few more yards access on both sides of the lower fields for us as they lobbied the Angels for the fans. Not a big deal, but a few yards matter – it’s Helpful.
More importantly, a big reason camp is better than anticipated is so many position players reported early – and KEY ones – Neto, Nolan, Jo, Mickey, then Hicks and Rendon (it feels like almost an extra bonus week).
But the biggest reason is Wash knows how to run a major league camp – this place is light years ahead of Nevin/Ausmus/Maddon camps (not as active) and I have to admit looking better than Scioscia’s . Here’s the best example – if you know the lower fields and complex, there are 6 of them that are numbered. Oh, and I’m sure you remember that HALF field too? That HALF-field is a center of activity this year and is always being used for fielding drills. And what’s seems different is not only drills, but there’s coaching going on too. Now I understand why Atlanta sends their IF to the ALL-STAR game every year. You can tell Wash is big on pepper. He is taking advantage of that field.

old school MLB manager
Don’t tell anyone but if you’re eagle-eyed (he tries to hide it) he’ll pull a Leyland and take a quick heater. That’s a MLB manager! I think an earlier photo caught a puff

Today I watched Bo Porter and EY give the same Base Running 101 class to three different groups. All sorts of instruction. (Who knew ST was about teaching?)

I made it six days in a row. Tomorrow I have so surgery to loosen up my scars. After that I’m day to day – we’ll see if I get to picture day at 630 am Wednesday. Its’ the same set up as last year. There’s a little temp structure that Bally’s uses to get all the promo shots. What’s nice is the players are in their home whites. The pics wont be great because they’re just walking across a parking lot.

And unfortunately, I heard they are planning to go to the main stadium until game day Saturday – that sucks if true – because what’s missing as a fan is better access to see the team hitting in the cage. and also taking IF.

Here are today’s pics.

And if you missed yesterday, check it- Wash and Rendon, 1-1 for 30 minutes and no other media was there (including Angels in-house), and considering the circumstances, one of my better photo scoops. If you want to hope on the season, its started there. (Speaking of MSM, the LA Times sent a photographer today.

Finally, my prediction? This is the first year im not guessing 90 wins and playoffs, my base case is 70-73 wins like everyone’s. While each day, the hopium goes up, there just isn’t enough talent here unless EVERYONE takes a big step (Detmers, Canning, Sandoval, Chilseth, Neto, Nolan, Mickey, Jo) all of them (raw talent is there – top picks). And then Tony and Mike have to put up solid 5 WAR seasons they’re capable of. And we will surprise people with running and better defense. We need a bat like Belli’s, mainly.

Last edited 1 month ago by RexFregosi
DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Rex the Hero.

Great work man.

Hope the surgery goes well buddy. 🙏

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Hes more than a Wonder Dog. thats for sure.

tanana40
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Who needs the MSM when we have Rex on the scene. This are spectacular photos.
The one on one with Wash and Rendon is a classic set of photos. I think Rendon might have even smiled a bit in one (Wash is smiling a lot).

Jim Atkins
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Not to be overoptimistic about this, but I do feel a slight glimmer of a reason to live again. Thanks, Rex.

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

So are the back fields open some now. Or is it just down to maybe the dugouts on the first two fields. Meaning, can you get into the quad area again and see all 4 fields?

RexFregosi
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1 month ago

You have good access and viewing for the two south fields on the lower quad. The two north fields on the lower quad are obscured a bit

HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Fantastic photos as usual Rex. Thank you.

2GA2Join
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1 month ago

Wait, so the Nationals owners have pulled an Arte?!?

ihearhowie3.0
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I’m assuming neither liked the Orioles sale price and maybe the TV landscape has values uncertain at the moment.

Twebur
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1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

I think it’s because they both hate Anthony Rendon!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

I think Rendon caused all this somehow.

Jayman28
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Yup lol. My conspiracy theory is that Arte and Reinsdorf probably put a bug in Lerner’s ear and said: “don’t sell the team, keep it until death, even if your team sucks and fans want you gone, let them suffer.”

Last edited 1 month ago by Jayman28
HalosFanForLife
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1 month ago

Would y’all rather have Bauer or Rendon? One of them wants to play. We can do this..

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SchofieldsWalkoff
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1 month ago

Rendon. No one is asking the other players in the clubhouse about his sex life.

DowningDude
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1 month ago

He’d fit right in with our existing group of chokers

fishfarm
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

ice cold. comment of the year thus far

steelgolf
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1 month ago

Neither.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago

From a strictly baseball perspective, Bauer will put up more WAR for less money.

I’d absolutely love to know the details of MLB’s investigation. And I know teams have done their own. The SD lady’s story has pretty much fallen apart. If that was all there was, somebody would’ve signed him by now. Houston doesn’t mind being a villain, the Yanks had German and Chapman last year.

There has to be more. I can’t prove it, but that’s the only thing that makes sense.

2GA2Join
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1 month ago

I still figure Snell will sign with the Yanks, and Boras is just drawing it out, and delighting in rumors about others (e.g. Angels) being “in” still, to drive up the price for the Yanks.

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Driving up the price is Boras’ only motivation. He’s an agent. That’s his reason for existence.

I seriously doubt he strives to humiliate the Angels.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Fortunately for Boras, Arte has humiliated himself time and again so the other owners have to take the threat of him signing another stupid contract seriously.

2GA2Join
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I’m not trying to imply that Boras is purposely targeting the Angels, nor that Boras is doing something wrong. I’m just commenting that I believe I see what is going on.
As opposed to the Angels actually engaged, and there is a bidding war with the Yanks.
But I could be totally wrong.

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I agree. I don’t believe the Angels are serious on any the top tier FA’s.

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Shirley they can’t be serious

2GA2Join
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

If I could access the GIF I’d post it.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
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BannedInLA
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Don’t call me Shirley…

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Driving up the price is Boras’ only job

Marcotor
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

But that doesn’t fit the Boras is the incarnation of all evil that perpetuates here.

Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Which is worse? Boras’ clients signing closer to Opening Day or the ghost runner?

I rest my case, your honor

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

So Trout’s delusional and Rendon is still just going through the motions.

Cool cool cool.

Can’t wait for the same comments in ‘25 after not reaching .500 again.

Let’s go!

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Well summarized Mia!

Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

I’m happy to report that Trouty will turn back the clock and put up 10 WAR this season.

Wash will add 15 WAR.

Rendone will continue to piss us all off.

We are soooo back !!!

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Sounds like another betting opportunity to me! 😂

Pineapple12
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

If only I didn’t have a gambling addiction 😂😂😂.

However, you can always take a hit from my hopium bong!

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Can I borrow your DeLorean?

halofansince1978
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Doc Brown says hello!!

Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

of course Wash won’t put up the 15 WAR himself. He’ll merely add 1.0 WAR to 15 different players. That means 11 WAR for Trout

BannedInLA
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1 month ago

How much WAR does Soto’s return give us?

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

So what is he good for?

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Fodder for complaint until we have something better to complain about.

And he can’t pitch.

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

“Luke, I am your fodder!”

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

HMM,  🎵  absolutely nothin’ War

RexFregosi
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Yes but give them a week with Wash

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Just like the Lakers and LeBron, need to get these heavy weights off the team in order for the team to begin to establish a new identity and begin to ascend again.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Let’s not pretend like the Lakers weren’t absolute dogshit for years before LeBron showed up.

He brought a championship and relevance back to the franchise. I wouldn’t go wishing to move on so quickly.

But I agree with the sentiment. If we were to just cut Tony and eat his contract, trade Mike to a contender, and enter a rebuild that would be best.

But Arte would never. It would compromise the butts in seats.

Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

the problem with a rebuild is who the rebuilders are. It’s like your friends are in the fencing business, you need a new fence but ehhh….you can’t expect their work to be high quality

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

Well yes, the ultimate solution is selling the team.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Not sure many butts will be there this year unless they win

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

It will be more with them than without them.

And that’s what matters to El Jefe.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Actually, the Lakers were a young, athletic, up and coming team when LeCon showed up. Immediately, the entire franchise had to capitulate to his desires. Lakers had something sustainable but chucked it all away.

ihearhowie3.0
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Well then the team all those young amazing players were traded to surely has been dominant?

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Ingrim, Darius Garland, Nance, Hart, Caruso, Kuzma, and 4 first round picks is something to build upon. Not counting Bonzo Ball. LA was on the upswing, becoming hip again to lure FAs. Signing the right FA to augment the youth would have been better approach. Not many players like to play with Lebron.

BannedInLA
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Remember that time he fake hate crimed himself? He’s a total douche and that’s the beat thing I can say about him.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  BannedInLA

Lebron’s a great basketball player
And a total queen

He, and his faux social consciousness, is what I expect from a guy who had people buying him hookers and cars since he was 14 and comparing him to religious icons.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

They had “potential” but still weren’t good.

Whether that would have turned into rings is anyone’s guess. But they did get a ring from those moves.

I’m sure they’ll take the championship in hand than the potential of one down the road.

Last edited 1 month ago by Mia
Angelstan
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

What’s best is for Trout and Rendon to both play 150 games this season and both finish in the top seven voting for AL MVP. That would be best. Endless pessimism doesn’t solve much. And MLB players turn things around a lot.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelstan

Is it really pessimism if I expect a team that has not made any major upgrades to perform the same way they have for the last 10 years?

Expecting anything else at this point is not optimism, it’s foolish.

They have to prove to us we’re wrong at this point. They don’t get the benefit of the doubt.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

No but the unpossible is always possible Mia.

max
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max
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Be kinda cool if this is the year they do well despite not trying to go for it all, as opposed to the previous decade where they went for it and disappointed

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  max

I mean, yeah?

Winning the World Series would be cool. So would me finding out I have a rich uncle who died and left me millions.

But I don’t live in Fantasy Land

Last edited 1 month ago by Mia
Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Mia – For some reason on this site very reasonable reality based comments are viewed as pessimistic. As I’ve mentioned, reasonable and factually based skepticism is not pessimism. I share your skepticism while, of course, would enjoy being pleasantly surprised.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Oh please ’71. Your “very reasonable reality based comments” make Eeyore look like a cheerleader.

It must be getting lonely being so negative all the time.

But Thats Ok we will always take you back when your future new found hopium finally melts away that blinding acrimony.

Last edited 1 month ago by Cowboy26
Fansince1971
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1 month ago
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Guess the truce is over. I am not negative. I am not positive. I am skeptical that this team can do anything this season and just state it as I see it. I mean no offense to anyone. After 10 years of getting kicked in the teeth and watching this Org waste not just Trout but Trout and Ohtani, I think blind optimism is kind of dumb. Placing a bunch of blind faith in a manager who hasn’t managed for over a decade and believing the guy to be Bruce Bochy seems silly. That guy won when he had Hamilton, Beltre, Napoli and Vlad in the lineup – when he did not he lost.

Believing that Trout can return to 10 WAR at his age and Rendon can be fixed is not something I personally can buy into. That doesn’t make me a bad person. It’s just reality as I see it. I dont know why that is threatening. Everyone can have their own opinion.

I think the optimists are likely the lonely ones when it comes to the Angels probably everywhere except this site. But I am honestly happy to see people be optimistic.Good for them. I wish I could see things that way for the Angels in ’24 – but I dont. The only thing that bothers me is that I cannot state my opinion or Mia cannot state hers without getting bashed as negative Nelly Eeyores.

I say it again, if you would all like this site to just be full of happy optimistic blindly excited fans – then they should make that a rule and I will be happy not to participate. But if all opinions are welcomed here – then they should be welcomed even if they are different.

I respect skeptics – they dont wear rose colored glasses and they tend to see the world for what it is. Healthy skepticism is exactly that – healthy.

Anyway – have a nice evening!

Last edited 1 month ago by Fansince1971
Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I”M NOT YELLING!!!!!

Right.

Boy, self awareness does not seem to be your strong suit.

Have a nice day.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Being a self-anointed judge of everything on this site seems to be your strong suit. Not sure who appointed you the arbiter of content but I’d love to have a face to face conversation and see if you are less of a jerk. Why not just refrain from responding to me as I have suggested and I’ll do the same for you

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Hey, I AM the ‘hall monitor’ around here!!

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I am not self appointed anything . I am just pointing out the same incessant broken record blathering that you ramble on about day after day after day:

  • Arte is the Worstiest.
  • The Angels are incapable of any improvement until Arte sells the team
  • And you should all boycott the team just like me
  • The Angels have the worst farm system in baseball
  • We haven’t had a winning record for almost a decade
  • I am not negative
  • All you people are delusional because you have expressed a different view so it is imperative that I post my view just in case you didnt see it the first 2000 times I posted it.
  • Sam Blum is like Bob Woodward because hes so brave to say the same things and thats why he knows people dont like him.

Maybe a face to face meeting with you would be good. so I can find your on and off switch and turn this endless loop off.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

You guys (cowboss and F71) both get thumbs up and comments from our resident oracle so you must be doing something right. Please turn your negativity to MEEEEE lol

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Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

So why is Trout now delusional?

Is it because he wont demand a trade because he values loyalty and trying to win with this franchise over being a hired gun rental player for the Philies or Doyers? If thats supposed to be a stupid thing for an elite player to want then I’ll take stupid or this new definition of sanity any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

So I guess Mr. Angel Tim Salmon was delusional when he signed his 4 year extension in 2001 at age 32 to remain an Angel instead of requesting Disney to trade him? Come on. he certainly would have been justified to demand the Angels to find him a new home . The Halos were awful that year finishing with only 75 wins and Stoneman didnt really spend or do shit to improve the team during that offseason. In fact he actually dumped a bunch of payroll when he traded Mo Vaughn to the Mets.

halofansince1978
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

RESPECT!!!

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Twebur
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1 month ago

More swag baggers!

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halofansince1978
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1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

How do you pronounce RE2PECT?

fishfarm
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1 month ago

Retwoopkt

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Woah there, Cowboy.

It was just a tongue in cheek comment, Mike makes these same comments every offseason. Clearly nothing is changing Arte’s mind.

I guess I just don’t see the point in being loyal to Arte Moreno. But then he’s also never paid me half a billion dollars…

Tim Salmon won a World Series with the Angels. Had that not occurred yeah, Salmon may have been better off moving on. If we somehow manage to win a ring with Mike before he retires then this is all moot. As unlikely as that seems.

CAoldskoll
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

HOF players for one team are elite and scarce in today’s FA market. Thumbs up for Trout’s comments

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  CAoldskoll

I know. I want to keep Trout. I want Trout to remain free from CtPG’s sludgy rectum juju. I want him to be our “all time lifer” who is always invested in the team and thinks, or at least says, we’re gonna be good no matter how poop things get. It’s time the Angels had their lifer.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I interrupt the “Delusional” to thinking that Arte will add to this team through expensive free Agents. Next off season’s Free Agent Class looks better, not much, but better.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Rendon’s priorities quote is perfectly fine with me. I 100% put my family first and nobody bashed Stassi for taking last year off to do exactly what Rendon said he would.

Baseball is a job for these guys. Like all jobs it has pros and cons. It is just a really bad look when Rendon says it.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Fair enough. It’s just a horrible look to play such few games, be paid his salary, and make these comments. Stassi was a fan favorite and had endeared himself to the fanbase. We don’t have that connection with Tony.

Marcotor
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Tony2Bags is just the current version of HGH Jr. Angels have always seemed to have one around.

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Tony Tea Bags

ihearhowie3.0
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Yeah at some point you gotta cut bait with Rendon just to clear the bad vibe from the club. He basically only produces negative headlines that all go viral.

MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Let him pull a Pujols and have a career revival for another team. Just don’t wait until the last year of the contract to do it.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago

Assuming the production isn’t there, the Angels should treat Rendon with zero special treatment and just wait for him to retire. Bench him, coach him up and push him the way you would a 23 year old. His contract demands it, not absolves him from it.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Would be nice, but they won’t.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

I’ve been a proponent of making him hit is way off the bench. Rengifo to start at 3rd and get majority of the reps.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Problem is Tony would probably be fine with collecting $40m per year to sit on the bench and eat sunflower seeds. It would not apparently motivate him to be benched since he really doesn’t want to play.

Last edited 1 month ago by Fansince1971
FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Then ya let him sit, out of the sight of the fans.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Better to release him, then. No point in having a bench player who can only play one spot and doesn’t hit or run bases very well.

He needs to either start or go home.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I think the idea would be to make him hate it enough to retire and save Arte some cash.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

He’d never retire and MLB union wouldn’t let him. Fake an injury (again?) and he AND Arte get paid (insurance for the latter).

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Exactly. Put him to work, just not in the line-up, make him work extra hard in pre-game and post-game drills, run laps, etc. Make it hell.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

He doesn’t field or throw well either.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

i also heard his cursive is abysmal

max
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max
1 month ago
Reply to  fishfarm

 😆 

MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  fishfarm

I’ve heard good things about his cursive.

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 month ago

We would never wish for any player to get hurt.

But…wouldn’t it be great if blue got $700M burned.

I’m sure there’s an insurance policy but one can hope.

We won’t be seeing Shohei Ohtani in the spring opening game.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago

I love him. Hope he does well and stays as healthy as he’s able to.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

Nah, Shohei deserves all the success in the world. Even if it comes in a Dodger uniform.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Looking back in hindsight, he played the Angels but I hope he rips 50-bombs this season.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

How did he play the Angels. He was always straightforward and the majority of us here knew he was leaving. If the Angels upper management wanted to be stupid and not trade him, that is on them not Ohtani.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

He played them into stupid moves, we agree.

Played: “The act of holding your true motivations to help influence a misguided outcome.”

Just look at his behavior and his availability in the public scene now that he escaped from Anaheim. Let alone voicing his adoration for his new organization.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He did not “play” the Angels.

He signed a contract, when he wasn’t injured he was producing to the best of his abilities.

He played out his obligations and decided to move on.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

I think he should have told the Angels that he was not returning last July at the latest.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

Why?

2GA2Join
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

I remember commenting about this months ago too.

If the Angels approached him at all during the year, and Ohtani made them feel they had a chance at retaining him but internally he had made up his mind, then I agree he played them. Or even if he did think there was a chance of staying, but it was “if we actually get to the WS somehow, then I’d be interested in staying.”
Then the Angels might have weighed this into their decision making and made a much different decision.

But as I said then… this is all speculation and we will probably never know what happened between the two parties. So I cannot assume that Ohtani played them.

I’ll just assume that there were no talks, and the Angels just plain decided to try for the playoffs since they had him on the team while they could. Which was an incredibly costly decision, that I warned of before it was made and we saw the results afterwards too… but we’re past that now and there is no reason to dig into that debate anymore. We just move forward with the team we have now.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

That would have been idiotic from a negotiating perspective.

FungoAle
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1 month ago

He was not going to let on he was leaving but with his newfound openness and commentary after the fact just make you scratch your head how bad the Angels managed this.

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Fansince1971
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1 month ago

I hold zero animosity towards Ohtani and want him to continue to be a once-in-a-lifetime type player.

If I read your comment correctly, it appears to be more anti-Dodgers than anti-Ohtani. As much as I share your disdain for the Dodgers, if it means a serious or career ending injury to Ohtani, I’m out.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Good riddance.. Unless he’s wearing an Angel Cap on his HOF plaque he’s dead to me.

smithy610
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I don’t wish injuries on anyone but it would be nice to see the Dodgers faceplant after buying their WS championship. Freeman turning into Rendon, Yamamoto getting figured out by MLB hitting, whatever to that other player, etc.

I don’t root for Shohei to be injured but I’m not cheering for him to do well and win a championship either. Just like when I stopped cheering for my personal favorite Angels Troy Glaus when he signed with the Dbacks, or when Trumbo got traded, etc.

At the end of the day, I’m still the fool who loves the Angels more than any player, and in my fan history, I never really followed anyone closely after they ceased being an Angel.

Marcotor
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1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I have a serious question, because I have never understood it going back to HH days. What is this obsession at with an “Angel Cap” in the HOF? I’d rather have playoff spots and an occasional championship than filling the HOF with caps.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  Marcotor

It’s not a choice between the two.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

It would be hilarious when thinking about how it impacts the doyer organization, but in the end, I make an effort to not wish injuries on individual athletes – even those that I dislike and I actually like ShoHei, so….. can’t do it.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

So here’s a thought and a question about Rendone.

1. He holds himself out as a man of faith but he comes off as petulant and ungrateful for his God given talents. That seems the opposite of a deeply faithful and spiritual person.

2. Per Rendone, he has felt this way about baseball and written about it for at least 10 years. Did the Angels do their due diligence before committing $250 million to this tool? Presumably if he’s writing this shit down in emails, people who knew him and played with him must have had some insight into his horrific and unprofessional attitude. That would be the kind of investigation that might be warranted before committing long term to a player. Do teams do that kind of due diligence?

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I believe signing him was an emotional response by Artie for the failure to sign Beltre. Unfortunately, emotional decisions are often not good.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

One would think the Org would have some failsafe measures in place to avoid or at least mitigate expensive emotional decisions.

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GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

No payroll room 😄 

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Gerrit Cole.

I get the signing. Angels had zero 3rd basemen on the roster or in the pipeline (which is where they still are, geezus kryst). Rendon played good 3rd, he raked and was in his mid to upper 20’s age wise. He had no history of injuries and the best was supposed to come. Arte tried to make the team better and give Trout a 2nd legit hitter to be in the lineup. There is nothing wrong with this logic. Arte paid a premium but he did fork out money to improve the team. Just did not work out.

Now, we got some people here clamoring for Arte to overpay on Snell.

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Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Everything you say is true. My only point was that he was also trying to make up for blowing it the first time and didn’t do his homework. No one is questioning his logic or motives for the decision. As you stated, it made sense based on what you said.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Yes. I agree with your basic premise. The AMOUNT he paid to get it done was primarily a reaction to losing Cole to the Yankees. Arte has always been overly emotional in those kinds of decisions.

Not a good way to do business.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

They have to point their hate somewhere. Look at how Wells was vilified here, yet he never held a gun to the Angels and demanded they trade good players for him.

Or how about Garret Anderson, Angel legend. Homegrown hero who played most of his career here and is the VERY DEFINITION of Lazy. Not beloved like Salmon. Or hated like Edmonds. The definition of lazy.

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Marcotor

You are aware of GA’s other HH nickname of BLUE SMOKE?

Marcotor
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Not outside of game threads. Count how many posts start with “I’m too GA to..” The Cesspool was an awesome place to be.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Marcotor

You get the team you deserve?

$2 seats here I come!!

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Marcotor

You are not a keen observer of the game if you buy into the “lazy ” narrative for GA. You don’t put up numbers like he did over his career (several of them ALL TIME Angel team highs) by being lazy. Because he was smooth in the OF people called him lazy… can’t help but also think more than a tinge of that comes from racism… a bit is involved there I think (not necessarily on your part, but surely by many of the folks screaming “lazy.”).

Anyway, having seen Garrett literally dozens of time haul his ass to dig balls off the side wall to keep guys at 1st or throw them out at 2nd I beg to differ …

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Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

People who call Garrett “lazy” likely do not realize the racism that is just below the surface of such a statement.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Wait, Arte made an emotional decision? Say it isn’t so!

/s

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Right answer but the wrong player, the right answer is an ex-UCLA pitcher.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

It’s well known Arte likes certain cultures, backgrounds, ethnicities more than others.

Read up on Torii Hunter or Justin Upton’s experiences here just as recent examples.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Perhaps he’s simply saying that he values life outside of baseball – family, faith, etc – more than his J-O-B, which happens to be baseball?

I think he’s being honest and such honestly tends to bother people for whatever reason.

I’m willing to bet that most players feel this way, but few articulate it.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

It’s a stupid thing to articulate. He plays baseball and is being paid $40 m a year to do so. The optics to truly hard working people who struggle to make ends meet (and who spend hard earned money to attend games) are not super great.

I don’t knock him for having those feelings per se – I knock him for being an idiot and expressing them out loud in this situation.

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Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Dude, he showed up a whole day early to ST!! He’s playing for keeps this year /s

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I’m not saying his comments are particularly “smart” and the timing is obviously poor, I’m simply offering an explanation.

I maintain that many people are projecting their disdain for Rendon as these comments, in a vacuum, are not a big deal

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Fans believe positive narratives about players and it helps shape their attachment and love for certain players. Think about a guy like Cal Ripken and his Ironman streak and what that did to endear him to the average fan who worked their butts off to be able to afford to bring their child to a game.

It takes a real ignoramus to have been made generationally wealthy from playing a game to state publicly that he’s not really that excited about or motivated about playing that game. It’s kind of a middle finger to the fans who are the ones actually paying his salary. It’s kind of an anti-Ripken attitude. No one needs to hear that. It’s unnecessary and assholic.

How difficult would it be for Rendon to ‘fake’ excitement for the season or to take a positive attitude towards playing the game that has made him wealthy beyond anything he could have otherwise achieved- earning 1,000x more per year than the average American? And who knows – if he said it out loud maybe he would start believing it!

He reminds me of a moody 15 year old. It’s not a good look.

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Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Moody 15 year olds… welcome to CtPG

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

Yeah this site is sometimes about as much fun as when my oldest turned 16 and my youngest became a pre-teen. Moody hormonal and emotional reactions were everywhere.

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

You sure have a different and unique way of telling people to get off your lawn.

😇

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

So that’s all good and I agree with his priorities but I am unaware of any conflict between them. What is it about his faith and family that conflict with him being a good teammate and employee. If for some reason he believes there is a conflict, then he shouldn’t be taking Artie’s money and perhaps he should retire. His faith should be encouraging him to be the best he can be unless there is a conflict.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Is he a “bad teammate” ???

I don’t get that sense from his comments. He would be better served by saying nothing other than the pat response of “working hard, getting ready to compete….” blah, blah, blah.

Like I said, many people claim to appreciate honesty – until they hear it.

These comments are a nothing burger IMO.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Yes. He should keep his mouth closed. In this situation his ‘honesty’ and ‘truths’ are antagonistic given what he does for a living and what he is paid to do so. His being’honest’ serves no purpose under these circumstances. It is petulant and unappreciative.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Antagonistic or simply tone deaf? There is a distinction there.

Whatever the case, would it kills us to at least feign positivity during Spring Training? I’m simply hoping that Rendon & Trout are/remain healthy for the foreseeable future and we’ll see how things proceed (or don’t) from there.

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Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Feign positivity 😂

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Dope Springs Eternal

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Well, what if you or I worked for a company and because we performed well, we were hired away by another company for more money than everyone else was making who worked there and they all knew how much it was. Then we proceeded to show up every third day for work for the next 3 years and publicly stated that work wasn’t really very important. Meanwhile, everyone else is making less money and our performance is potentially impacting how much money they make and possibly impacting the company’s financial performance. You don’t think the stockholders would be unhappy. Even if we weren’t working because we had a bad back, saying the things he does just isn’t a good look. I am hoping he has a great year as well, but that doesn’t change the fact he’s his own worst enemy and very hard to root for.

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BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I see what you’re saying and I basically agree with it, but I’m willing to grant him a bit more grace with his comments than most are willing to. Again, I think he’s tone deaf to a degree, but I generally prefer uncomfortable honesty over comforting lies.

I bet almost every player in the game feels this way deep down.

Cowboy26
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

You lost me at Stockholders.

This isn’t an Enron analogy is it?

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

As a Christian I can tell you I know plenty Christians of that don’t act right.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

Curious- How many of them that you know get to play baseball for a living and earn almost $40m per season?

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I don’t know any of those. `;~}}

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago

The ones that go to church/speak on it the most are the ones that need it the most. Actions over words.

It’s similar to the sobriety talk (which is what… California sober, food/sugar replacement, prescribed medicines, etc ??).

It’s almost the opposite of Fight Club’s first 2 rules; you don’t STFU about it 🤣

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 month ago

37 years sober here. Food doesn’t have anything to do with sobriety.

Don’t take any meds not prescribed to you and take yours as directed.

Just heard about a guy that overdosed on NyQuil…he ran out of booze.

There’s no such thing as “California sober” your either sober or your not!

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago

Wasn’t meant to ‘call anyone out’. Often, one thing is replaced by another (Tim McGraw works out a bunch and has his crew/bandmates there to help). Food has refined sugars, caffeine, lots of things that can cause a similar desired effect that one got with a controlled substance. There’s such a thing as lots of things these days. Your definition of sober doesn’t have to be everyone else’s. It’s refreshing to hear your view. The normal conversation on here is the word sober followed by that-a-boy/girl. Even if working out is the replacement, being able to talk about it in totality is important (what does one do for pain, acupuncture? BCAAs? ‘Low T’). But to each their own.

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 month ago

In AA everything you bring up is called an outside issue.

My Program POV is Black Belt…I grew up in Men’s Stags.

It’s clear you’re what we call a normie…you will never get it.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago

It’s not clear I’m nothing more than someone that likes to discuss things from multiple Ångles

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ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
1 month ago

37 years too  👍 

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ScoopleDoople

Easy Does It to you and all the other friends of Bill W here!!

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

I am Jack’s total lack of concern…..

Brent
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Rendone? More like anthony rendont ask me to talk to you guys at 7 in the morning.

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I’m more amazed at his limited email plan. I have emails from 1999 still in my inbox.

Maybe he’s been getting spammed by Spam Blum. My buddies used to do that in college, sign up someone for bedwetting literature and laugh as the mail rolled in. 😂

Marcotor
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I wonder if Mark Walter sends Arte a good bottle of Scotch every Winter to thank the Angels saving them and their “Hollywood” style from Rendon. Grandpa too.

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago

Wash is a dawg

Ron Washington on Mike Trout pushing for free agents:

“He’s talked to me about it, and he’s talked to the man about it that can make a difference. And now it’s up to someone else to make the call.”

“But my comment to that? Keep going Mike.”

https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1759626605138485704?t=dEZAs9W4AqaxJzJafwB71Q&s=19

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Anyone else see this? All these people that say with conviction the stats say there’s no such thing as clutch. LOL (Which Angels players of the past or present have you viewed as clutch?) For me Downing just seemed to always get big hits. Have no idea if he was statistically.

https://x.com/billjamesonline/status/1759006679780188190?s=20

Last edited 1 month ago by HalosFanForLife
PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 month ago

Chilli Davis was clutch. Cheater Ortiz was as well.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  PedroCerrano

Carew.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago

Rodney Cline?

 😂   😂   😂 

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago

👑 🐟

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Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Isn’t OG king fish Salmon? So this is 2.0?

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

…oh and living in a baller a$$ pad in Newport Beach doesn’t suck either.

Brent
Super Member
1 month ago

This is a seriously depressing era of Angels baseball.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

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I love it! Reminds me of teams I grew up with. Cheap seats, no expectations, get to be surprised by a kid or two coming out of nowhere and giving hope for future years, gets rid of the riff-raf bandwagon fans, etc.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

Don’t take it so seriously. It’s sports, i.e., entertainment.

Brent
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Oh, I don’t. But I like how happy it can make me be when they are winning.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

I get that, winning is way better than losing, but in the end, that paragon of wisdom Anthony Rendon is correct, there are are more important things i. life. Haha

I can almost feel F71’s furiously types response now…. (sarc/)

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

Not the “d” word!!!
😱

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago

Nobody has dropped the quotes from Trout or Rendone yet? I gotcha …

Trout
“Mike Trout spoke to reporters today. He said he’s been pushing ownership to make more additions, but said he wasn’t sure if it would happen.

On the trade front — he said he’s happy being in Anaheim right now. But left open a possibility that he’d be open to trade down the line.”

https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1759593671157329999?t=LNRmqYQ5VEFSoUcxUkYscA&s=19

“Mike Trout on signing more free agents:

Said he’s been pushing Arte/Carpino to make additions. But is skeptical that they will.

He said he’s spoken with free agents that have told Trout they want to play for the Angels. It’s Arte’s decision if he wants to sign.”

https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1759605637800169585?t=f90SviTWBzg8fFHuEYvZKw&s=19

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Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

and now Rendone

“Anthony Rendon on playing pro baseball:

“It’s never been a top priority for me. This is a job. I do this to make a living. My faith, my family come first before this job. So if those thin
gs come before it, I’m leaving.”

https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1759601273790402688?t=0L6xDnzpo2DLAfR__ARAOg&s=19

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Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Gives you the warm fuzzies doesn’t it! Boy Wash has made such a difference in his attitude!

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Not even Wash can fix the despondent loser that is Tony too rich to care Rendone.

Wash is awesome and will make a tangible difference on this team. Rendone is a clown, who hopefully goes away sooner than later. Both things can be true.

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Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

There was all this energy last week about Wash working with Rendone. As though Wash was going to make a big difference in Rendone. Obviously that’s unlikely to happen.

Wash is only as good as his players. There is a reason why Trout is pushing management to sign additional players. I expect Wash will improve infield defense and help the young players but that’s about the extent of it.

When Texas was loaded with players in 2010-2013, Wash had consistent success. Those were the prime Hamilton, Guerrero, Napoli etc years. When those players moved on, Wash did not have success. I’m not confident that this year’s team has the players to make Wash successful.

Last edited 1 month ago by Fansince1971
Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

We’ll see. I understand your pov, F71. I’m not coming on here and saying we are gonna win 80-85+ games.

I do believe that Wash is entering this clubhouse demanding a level of accountability, leadership, and work ethic that this franchise hasn’t seen in some time. Couple that with the actual teaching of baseball, compared to whatever the fuck (Feb) Nevin, and Maddon, and Ausmus were doing.

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Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I like the feeling but we really have no idea what Wash does and doesn’t do. He’s clearly not yet had any impact on Rendone – but that guy may not be salvageable. Baseball at this time of year is all about feelings and I’m as guilty of that as anyone. I want to believe the Wash narrative. The skeptic in me just questions whether Wash will have as much impact as our early Spring eyes might hope.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Oh and there was a guy named Beltre on that Rangers team too

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Too blessed to stress to quote another of the Angels worst acquisitions.

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

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grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Good Christ I hate that smug f***.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

This is so much worse of a signing than Hamilton. Hamilton had his demons, but this should have been discovered before spending that kind of money.

Twebur
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1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

This is a job. I do this to make a living. My faith, my family come first before this job.

What a giant asshole…How stupid do you have to be to put your family and your religion before playing baseball for a living? And then go next level and say it out loud? Give me one other professional athlete that has claimed those as their priorities?

Here are the suggested priorities for Pro Athletes… in this order.

1-The team they play for
2-Their Legacy
3-Their Brand
3-(Tie) Their Non-Profit Charity
4-Street Cred
5-Religion
6-Social Media accounts
7-Family
8-Shoe and Apparel deal

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

He’s a giant twat. But worse he’s a twat without a filter. Collecting $40 million per year and not at least trying to give the appearance of being happy and excited to play baseball is super lame. Whoever does his PR should be fired. F this guy.

Brent
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

Where does credit score fall in there?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Twebur

You are correct – or as my HS football coach drilled into us: “faith, family, football”

My issue with Rendon’s comments is the self-awareness of the non-production since he signed the $245m contract. At the very least an acknowledgement that “he’s let his teammates, ownership, and the fans down over the past three years, and he’s been working harder than ever to regain their trust and confidence.” If he said anything close to that, I’d cut him some slack and given him another chance. However, it’s like Rendon goes out of his way to come across as an ass in every interaction with the media.

Our only view of these guys is what they do on the field and how they interact with people publicly. It’s clear Rendon just doesn’t give a shit.

Twebur
Legend
1 month ago

He’s a different cat, no doubt. Your point the “very least an acknowledgement” . Agree, 100% this…that would go a long way, and should be at least the minimum he does.

For me, it is a weird feeling rooting for a player to have a MVP type season only to witness the reaction of the fans that hate him😀.

New trAdition

Free Anthony!

ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Yes faith and family come first. But I was always taught that with my faith I needed to always try to act with integrity. At my “day job” I as taught to “give them a dime for their nickel” i.e. It “just my job” but they are paying me and I should be giving them 100% effort. If I don’t, then my professed faith is just words.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ScoopleDoople

Can’t help but remember Lyman Bostock’s response to underperforming versus his contract, RIP.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago

He’s super good at grabbing opposing fans though.

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FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

Rendon’s view on baseball was widely known. Hell, I remember they spoke about it while the Nats were playing in the World Series. Some even thought there was a chance to walk away from the game as he made some money.

Twebur
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

benoit.wav – Benoit Benjamin: “I don’t give a sh*t about the fans.” 

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

Hey, I was at the game where Benoit Benjamin showed up with two-left shoes. Frigg’n dufus.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

You forgot #9: 🙋🏼‍♀️

Nipsey Hussle:
First get the money then respect
Then the power, and the _____ come next
Last time that I checked

So #6 and #9 need to be a little higher on your list

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steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

Josh Hamilton?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Pineapple12

Worst free agent signing ever. I’m sure he included those sentiments in his dossier to franchises interested in signing him when he was a free-agent.

For those in denial that this guy is completely untradeable, please re-read the quotes above. Rendon at best is a MLB minimum salary guy until he actually does something on the field.

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Why doesn’t he just retire. He doesn’t need the money.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Pineapple12

This is the first time I can recall that Trout made public comments the inner workings of the “Gestapo” that were transparent and candid. I hope he continues this approach and vocally leads from the front.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

i agree, it is a smidgen more than before. Mike has nobody to blame but himself for signing that long-term deal. A short 1-3 year “get me better teammates or I’m outta here” contract would have been wiser. Mike refuses to rock the boat, he chuckles versus going full Kobe on Arte.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but if Trout is healthy & playing well, but the Angels are dead in the water at the break, the club should move him. It will likely be the last chance to do so.

ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Hmm, but they won’t, because he brings in ticket and merchandise sales, we just saw that play out with Ohtani, imho…

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ScoopleDoople

You’re probably correct, but I think if Trout asked for an out, the Angels would at least consider it.

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’m happy that he laid it out there. He’s willing to stay and wants to add players. He’s even talked to guys who want to be here and I am assuming they are players he thinks would make them better, specifically star players. He’s also willing to consider being traded. Basically, he removed all the excuses and at the same time said he will support either path. And, he put it all in Artie’s lap without being confrontational. Artie’s star player is diplomatically calling him out. I like it. I’m not saying anything will come of it, but it removes the excuses.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

It also removes the no trade road block IF Trout decides that he wants out. It it’s ever going to happen (a trade) it’ll happen within the next 3-4 months…..

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 month ago

Soto is a good backup infielder and with the Halos that is a good thing as injuries seem very common-traDition-and while he has no power, he can still hit the ball. So Billy Epps is gone from the Yankees to the Angels, then gone from the Angels to the Mets, then to just being gone. I would gamble that he never again is a MLB GM, I’m going out on a limb here. 😄  From one shit dump (Oakland) to another shit dump (Sacramento) to oblivion. Manfraud wants the owners to capitalize on expansion, and MLB has no clue on what to do with the A’s. Enough ranting…..

Manfraud will retire prior to the 2029 season-after he screws up major league and professional baseball some more.

ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I am glad that Soto is back.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Another week, another…

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WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 month ago

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