LA Angeles Wednesday News Crash: Rejected

Morning Angels fans. Have some links.

Angels News

So apparently, the Platypus hasn’t been locked up entirely. Stroman was given an offer by the Angels, but he rejected it even though it was more money. Ow.

More ow, apparently Detmers knew Ohtani wasn’t coming back. Like, I think we all knew, but still…

Detmers also revealed that the Angels will be on a 5 man rotation next season. Which he seems to be more comfortable with anyway.

Good news though, is that the Angels international signings are significant. 15 new guys including the 8th most sought after one. Someone more qualified than me needs to tell us if it is a good or bad class.

Look, hitters!

And more good news. K-Rod will be the manager of the Venezuela U15 National Team!

Around Baseball

Vlad’s other son is now a Met. Ew.

Poor Giants, no one wants to sign there because their hotels suck or something. At least that is what Logan Webb says.

They still have a chance though as there are a ton of FA players out there still. Seriously, the Hot Stove has been shut off.

Crickets

Somehow, the A’s get revenue sharing for 2024 despite not even having a stadium plan yet. Wow.

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes!

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Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago

Take 2:

Clevinger: 2/26. We need the innings and I want another righty.
Justin Turner: 1/10
Neris: 2/20
Soler: 2/20

Turner makes more sense than Anderson as our primary needs are likely going to be third base and a platoon partner for first base. We also need a plus bat for DH every day.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
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No ace but Clevinger, Detmers, Sandoval, Anderson, Canning with Silseth, Plesac, and Davis in AAA shouldn’t embarrass themselves.

Plenty of pop up and down the lineup. Nice bench of Turner and Rengifo when Rendon is healthy.

Bullpen adds a veteran anchor.

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

For a nano-second, I thought we signed Clevinger….

To your point, he would round out our youngish rotation quite nicely indeed.

As I said previously, Shohei pitched poorly over the last two months apart from the ace-like start in Detroit. We won’t miss his pitching (much) IMO.,,, of course his bat is another matter.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Agreed but with the DH not Ocupado this year it would enable us to possibly rotate better bats through out the lineup to potentially produce more runs (That and the Fat Boy and the Pool hustler have to stay healthy of course)

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’m hoping and praying that Fat Boy embraces his inner Edgar Martinez and focuses almost solely on health, flexibility and the art of hitting. Perhaps he can be the 4th OF to give Moniak & Crew and occasional breather.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

If you watch the whole Ron Washington interview on foul territory, he discussed his recent conversations with Mike Trout where Mike’s biggest request for change to Wash was to be more aggressive on the field and on the base paths. I’m sure this made Wash but I keep thinking there goes his latest attempt to stay healthy throughout the season.

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Hhhhmmmm

Well… hopefully this means that Trout is going to shed a pounds of mass, etc. At 32, the only way to increase speed is to lose some weight.

Would still prefer Moniak in CF immediately.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

For now I want him to follow his me for Torii Hunter and move to right.

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

If he must play the OF full-time, please let it be LF.

steelgolf
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Silseth has to get a shot in the rotation, not triple A.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Turner will provide more leadership which this team desperately needs.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

True. And the position player group would be largely all guys who put up wRC+ of 100 or more last year including several likely to be better this year.

Trout 135
Soler 126
Drury 114
Rengifo 114
Moniak 114
Turner 114
O’Hoppe 113
Schanuel 112
Ward 107

Then you have the Netos and Rendon’s about 90. Thaiss was down about 75.

2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

This actually looks like a decent list of players.

How can this be? Poppycock I say!  😆 

FungoAle
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Clevinger would keep Perry from signing Lorenzen, good. Clevinger might be a nice deadline candidate if he does pitch well. Clevinger, Silseth and Canning from the right side with Sandy, Detmers and Anderson (or Ryu and Lauer) from the left.

I’m not sure why the Angels would not just commit to Adelle as the power bat vs a 3-year Soler. Jo has 30+ homers in his bat if he could get 500+ABs and I’m not really a fan of the guy. Why not make 2024 the year we fish or cut bait on this guy.

There is no reliever on the FA market who will make a significant difference. It is all recycled arms that keep ending up FAs.

All for Justin Turner. Make that piece happen. Again, potential bat for a contender at the deadline.

BannedInLA
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I also think Adell hits 30+ dingers with 500+ AB’s. The question boils down to batting average (.200 or .250) and strike out rate (30% or 40%) ????

PedroCerrano
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Good observation Soler. Expensive veteran version of Adelle. I don’t really like either option. Turner be a great add IMHO.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago

Assuming Arte gets his TV money and has about $40 million to spend ($60 million off last year minus the $20 million or so Ohtani brought in endorsement money).

Clevinger: 2/26 million
Neris: 2 years $16 million
Jorge Soler: 2 years $20 million
Tim Anderson: 1 year $10 million

Angelstan
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Some decent names here, Jeff. I suspect Clevinger is done though. He’s not on my list of wants. There are other names that would be fine also. The team needs depth and guys that make contact mostly. Plus bullpen arms and one decent starter.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

I like Clevinger but you maybe right Stan that hes closer to the end although I’m curious what his velocity is now that hes a couple years removed from TJS.

Neris is old but still effective ( and has been his whole career) I’m a little leery of giving out 2 year deals to older relievers ( Tepera & Loup are still fresh in the memory bank) but he can definitely use the veteran presence.

Soler reminds me of Big Daddy when he gets on one of those ht streaks where you just cant shit past him but his defense has been lbadr. According to the Fielding bible he amassed -5 DRS in just 230 innings last year so obviously the Marlins used him primarily as a DH. With Rendon & trout can we afford to do that next year?

Anderson’s defensive work at short last year was abysmal but as a starting second basemen ( which he played during the WBC) and a backup to Neto I think it would be intriguing. (especially with Wash’s fielding instruction) I’m not sure you would need to pay him $10 million though after 2 subpar seasons with the bat.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Clevinger put up 3.3 WAR across 131 innings last year. Even with a little drop in production he’d still be no worse than Detmers (2.1 WAR in 148) or Sandoval (0.5 WAR in 144.2).

Anderson’s stats in all areas were likely down due to injury. I’m betting on a healthy Anderson being closer to his normal self.

Soler is DH most days with at most 1 or 2 days in the field. I like him better than JD Martinez because he can give Trout a day off and absorb garbage time.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I like JD and Soler. I think I’d go with the shorter, cheaper contract one or the other would accept.

Angelstan
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

JD is more of the contact hitter and RBI guy that the team needs

Angelstan
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Soler is basically a DH that you run out to the outfield once in a while just for kicks. Anderson used to be a stud. Unless they caught him for PEDs or something, he’s worth a gamble. The talent is there.

matthiasstephan
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Like Cowboy’s comments about Soler below – I wonder what role Tim Anderson would have.

Is he better than Drury at 2B (paying 10M, we would expect him to start, right?)? Can he fill in for Rendon at 3B? Is he suited to a bench role, and if so better than Rengifo in that role?

I do think we need an additional IF, in case of injury, but I would prefer someone with more positional flexibility. Unless we are replacing one of Schanuel, Drury, Neto, Rendon in the IF, then anyone we sign is basically competing for a bench spot to go along with Rengifo, a C (Thaiss?), and OF (Adell?). Getting someone who can cover all positions, but at least 1B and 3B would be critical, I would think. (We have Soto, Paris, Stefanic for the middle of the IF).

Sure, someone needs to be play DH sometimes, but we want to rotate Trout and Rendon there (right?), so they should have versatility too (which is why I am not high on bringing in JD, for example).

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago

I’m counting on zero games from Rendon. Donovan Solano has positional flexibility. So does Whit Merrifield. But none really specialize at third base.

Justin Turner fits this team like a glove if Rendon is even remotely healthy. Turner could also spell Schanuel at first against lefties.

Actually, the more I think about it the more I’d prefer JT to Anderson.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I like one year deals, so I’d be fine with Turner as a one-year rental.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

With the Diamond bankruptcy uncertainty remaining for 2025 it’s interesting to note that we have only 4 players under contract for that season Totaling $96.7 million) . And the 4th highest amount belongs to Evan White at $8,000,000. But, we will have at least 12 arbitration eligible players with only Rengifo and Canning in their 3rd and final year of eligibility.

It will be interesting to see if Perry is even allowed to sign any players beyond this year even if they are only 2 year deals . It will certainly tell us what Arte thinks of his precious TV deal for the ensuing years

smithy610
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2 months ago

I like Reid Detmers being candid here. I think most players didn’t just feel this in the offseason, but even way back in August.

https://twitter.com/FoulTerritoryTV/status/1747381966742446156/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1747381966742446156&currentTweetUser=FoulTerritoryTV

Oh, and Reid is excited to be back to an expected 5-man rotation, and be on a more regular, consistent turn (and not being moved around too much because a certain someone had on ouchie.)

https://twitter.com/FoulTerritoryTV/status/1747663007470006393

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago

Major developments in the Diamond bankruptcy today. Looks like Diamond will avoid a total collapse.

That could be huge for the Angels and the players above.

Mikeal1st
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’d like to see something happen so I can stream games without paying $85 a month.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Agreed. Pretty much the only reason I keep Spectrum is to watch the Angels. Yes I watch Bloomberg or CNBC a bit (I’m in home loans) and the occasional rerun of a sitcom but I can easily replace those.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

As an out of town fan, the MLB package works great for me. I get all the games, except the ones played in the Bay Area where I am currently residing.

2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I’m in the Bay Area too… I was wondering what my options were. I’ve just enjoyed the 19 A’s games a year (when the schedule was skewed which was nice), plus any vs the Giants, and then MLB Network on cable had a bunch, which was enough for me.
But those numbers are dropping a lot.

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago

Fully guaranteed contracts.
Less risk of life altering injury
Little to no cerebral damage

Dave Winfield had his options and he chose baseball. Dave Winfield is a wise man.

Angelz4ever
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2 months ago
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Yep, there’s a reason why there’s no old-timers football or basketball games.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
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Thats true. There’s little threat of using up too much brain power.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/f526296a-c4af-4f03-8526-51567a1c87a7

red floyd
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2 months ago
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The rose goes in the front, big guy!

CAoldskoll
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2 months ago

GP Baseball, where did you get idea Dodgers abandoning Kershaw?? Ridiculous, no way are they going to let the greatest LA Dodger era player walk to another team and ruin his legacy as one team HOF. If it were true, sure definitely sign him it would be a huge rebuttal to Ohtani signing. Unfortunately no way the organization let it happen nor Kershaw himself would be interested in leaving. Only reason he is still unsigned is cause his surgery, but after he will be back in blue 2024.

M.C.Homer
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2 months ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

I know you are 100% correct assuming he can pitch again.
No sure thing with shoulder surgery.
I know there is no way he comes to Anaheim, i doubt the Rangers as well.
I half jokingly said he should be an Angel.
The other half of the unfunny “joke” I should have added is he wouldnt have to worry about blowing up in the playoffs in Anaheim.
Playoffs???

GrandpaBaseball
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2 months ago
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Humor is lost on the critics, but I guess his lefthand is in a cast after the surgery too. 😀 

Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
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Kershaw will be in blue if he pitches again.

99% Dodger blue. But I wouldn’t completely rule out the Rangers. We’re only talking about 3 months at the end of the season plus a likely playoff run.

Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
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Great movie! Thank goodness there’s no prequel, sequel or spin off and it can be stand alone good!

BannedInLA
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2 months ago

Pulp Fiction is a very loose “sequel” in that a character in R.Dogs is briefly mentioned in P.Fiction, but it was more an “Easter Egg” for die hards to catch.

This movie as cast & written then wouldn’t get green lit in the current social environment.

Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
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It’s always fun for me to rewatch something and see what I missed. Good call. Rewatched a few King of the Hill episodes recently (where the souphanousiphone’s are constantly making fun of where they used to live, OC) and noticed a Bart Simpson doll in Bobby’s room. Obviously a crossover worker from Simpson’s adding in their little flare. I thought Hank was loosely based on a Beavis and Butthead character.

BannedInLA
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2 months ago

I’d rather rewatch something great than watch a flaming hot pile of horse dung once.

Twebur
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2 months ago
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MLB Rumor – Arte in talks to sign Mr. Wolf as POBO?
He solves problems.

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BannedInLA
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2 months ago
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Now THAT is a signing I’d support !!!

WallyChuckChili
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2 months ago
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Jeff Joiner
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2 months ago
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All Tarentino films of that era have loose connections or easter eggs.

Uma Thurman literally lays out the plots of the 2 Kill Bill films at the dinner table in Pulp Fiction.

Fansince1971
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2 months ago

‘71 Angels: 76-86 ‘21 Angels: 77-85
‘72 Angels: 75-80. ‘22 Angels 73-89
‘73 Angels: 79-83. ‘23 Angels 73-89
‘74 Angels: 68-94-1
‘75 Angels: 72-89
‘76 Angels: 76-86
‘77 Angels: 74-88
‘78 Angels: 87-75
‘79 Angels: 88-74

It is literally the ‘70s again except the teams in the early 70s actually had a slightly better record than the teams in the early 2020s. ‘24 is shaping up like ‘74 with likely around 68 wins. And there was similarly with the Halos ‘wasting’ Nolan Ryan in the 70s decade just like ‘wasting’ Trout in the 2020s.

If history repeats itself, then we have some ugly seasons approaching followed by some hope and success at the end of the decade.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
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I suppose the 70’s were Arte’s fault too?

Fansince1971
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2 months ago
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Do you do nothing but troll this board all day long?

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
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Do You?

Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
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Oh no we might have a go tell Jessica or Jeff situation on our hands. I can assure you the people who put this site together have better things to do than placate to hurt feeling reports. Good post ‘71. Cowboy your opposition defiant disorder usually plays out in way you can say you’re just joking, not in this case. Swing an miss on the snark/sarcastic comment. No I don’t need to reply to everyone here, I know my audience, but I would like to see more people joining and posting than lurkers and people leaving.

Charles Sutton
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  • Try not to feed the trolls
  • Criticism is NOT censorship – your opinion is always allowed, but so is everyone’s opinion of your opinion.
Angels2020Champs
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It is funny to see the cliques that are created within the dozens of us! Not sure if there’s much original content as there is snark/sarcasm.

Where’s Rahul Setty been? I don’t run the site but seems like we are losing more than we are gaining.

M.C.Homer
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2 months ago

I was a lurker for quite a while because I didn’t feel part of the clique…
But Jeff and 2020 and others i can’t recall have been welcoming.
Thanks guys.
I need a place to vent about this team and moreso the management and working conditions.

Charles Sutton
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2 months ago
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On that topic, I guess it’s a good time to add this:

  • We are not a clique or frat or sorority – there is no hazing of new members and no seniority; please be welcoming and engaging to new members or just ignore their foibles in proud elitist silence. Your status here is based on the merit of your comments and posts.
Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
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Looks great written out, it’s not the reality though.

Charles Sutton
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2 months ago

I guess we have the haters, the Pollyannas, and the clowns.

I could stand to see more people offering creative or insightful solutions. For those of you who do that, I appreciate it very much.

There is still time for “If I Were Perry” pieces if any lurker wants to jump into the deep end.

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Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
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It is all good!! I really enjoy this site, even when I’m in lurker mode. There are people who are good with stats/numbers, minor leagues, etc. and it provides a bunch of insight I wouldn’t get. I can assure you, none of us (myself included) are remotely good comedians… which can vary from Richard Pryor, Carrot Top or Dave Chappelle. I’ve never seen an advertisement so I’m assuming no one gets paid here and that’s to be commended in todays climate!

M.C.Homer
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2 months ago
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Charles; my IIWPM would be 2 sentences;
1) IIWPM I’d pull a Jedi and leave town
2) If I were Angels GM i’d let the kids play and do nothing

Charles Sutton
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2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

Playing the kids is a good idea in my estimation.
I figure Perry should hang onto his job for dear life because I’m not sure he can get a comparable one based on what he’s shown so far. I don’t think I could do any better, though.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago

Love me a South Park reference. Here are two meme from my favorite episodes:

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BannedInLA
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2 months ago

LMFAO.

Shocking that the perpetually offended vultures haven’t come for South Park & Always Sunny.

HalosFanForLife
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2 months ago
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That episode was the same one with the Cartman fighting the midget. To me the funniest one ever.

M.C.Homer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

I participate at other sites that will test your patience with people a lot more.
Could be worse.
We’re ok here.

M.C.Homer
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2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

Like anything else.
Could be better.
Could be alot worse

Charles Sutton
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2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

We did kick a couple people off the boards a year or two ago for being downright abusive to everyone. A lot of the insulting around here tends to be between specific pairs of people.

Fleckstein
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2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

Haiku’ed it for you:
Like anything else
I think it could be better
Could be a lot worse

Angels2020Champs
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red floyd
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2 months ago
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I try to stay out of arguments, but welcome!! Don’t worry about C26 and F71. We’re just a big happy disfunctional family. In fact, we put the FUN in disFUNctional!

Sincerely, that crazy uncle nobody talks about.

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M.C.Homer
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2 months ago
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Thank you red floyd. I can clearly remember posting here occasionally for a few years now. I remember defending Scioscia when he was still here. That opened me up to some shots.
But Charles touched on it, I don’t see some of the more snarky folks here anymore.

M.C.Homer
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2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

I do remember Mia sticking up for me at the time…2018?
I see her around occasionally.
Thanks Mia

Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
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‘18 was at the old HH shop. CtPG was created just before Covid-19… coincidence, I think not!!!

M.C.Homer
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2 months ago

Oh yeah. HH. Wow. Flashback

Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
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My avatar is from ST ‘18 sitting Angels dugout 1B side at Tempe Diablo… I got all the tips/tricks needed for that trip based off JJ’s detailed post. In fact, Jim Atkins gifted me and my family ‘19 ST tickets for a game he couldn’t attend. The guy didn’t and still doesn’t know me and he even paid postage to get the tickets delivered to my house. That actually led me to do my own giveaway of sorts for Lexus Club tickets I’ve been fortunate to get in ‘21 & ‘22 seasons. There is a bunch of great stuff on here so stick around… I’d recommend the current ST articles posted in the last week or so. Still can’t believe P/Cs report in a month.

Charles Sutton
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2 months ago

SB Nation fired all the masthead people because of that gig economy law so we took the show on the road.

Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
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I remember!! Crazy proposition that a single person or two would be in charge of all CA sports team sites. So much for dichotomy.
Im not sure Rev’s Hamilton post has aged well (I loved it at the time and it got me to create an account/start posting) and still think it’s BS SB Nation deleted it/reprimanded him. I guess on that note, maybe we can add drug/alcohol use and players bedroom lives to the list of things we shouldn’t talk about. Those tend to go sideways and typically don’t age well. There are 3 sides to a story but the focus is usually only one one.
We will RIP mayhood or talk up people having problems (the guy who would translate Ohtani’s pressers comes to mind) and at the same time admonish our current coach for past misgivings or generally shit on someone who doesn’t give in to low hanging fruit. Doesn’t make for a very welcoming environment and I know I’m not making things easy on myself… but I do enjoy dissenting opinions as much as concurring ones.
I think the current back and forth between Stephen A Myth and Jason Whitelock offer a lot of substance to what is going on in the sports world and how it’s being reported.
But I digress, go Angels!

red floyd
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2 months ago
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I occasionally check the old site.

  1. All the old comments are gone.
  2. There are no new comments that I can see.
Charles Sutton
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2 months ago
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By Googling “Halos Heaven” I accessed Commander Nate’s in memoriam article. It has links in it. This one, about the WiHaloFan comics works. Yeah, the comments are gone, though. Bastards.

The comic is still pretty relevant today. Only the names have changed.

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Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago
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That’s right. You can’t spell fun without F U

Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago

🤣

Charles Sutton
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2 months ago

A lot of people are only active commenters during the playing seasons. Rahul and Turk’s Teeth both got too busy in their outside lives. We also lose some people through age related attrition.

Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Rhetorical but thanks for the insight. Cowboy has made me laugh more than he’s ever ‘irked’ me. I’m not even irked I’d just like different perspectives… this coming from someone who is usually ganged up on (by regulars, I get texts from lurkers) for throwing out differing thoughts on controversial subjects. Not because I believe them, but because group think doesn’t allow for expansion on very primitive feelings. My man, our team is based out of OC, an area not known for its moral and ethical standards. I don’t think there’s a single Arte Stan on the site.

Twebur
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2 months ago

Very hard to take one of the most poorly run organizations in North American Professional Sports seriously….snark/sarcasm isn’t as snarky or sarcasm’ey when the mocking is actually accurate.

Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Don’t let me get in the way of a good circle jerk, my only advice is don’t be last though 😉

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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I write the occasional comment – maybe a few at most per day. Many of these are basically you and me pissing on each other. You seem to be constantly looming waiting to share your troll snark to every comment on the thread. It’s as though you know best about everything and need to let everyone know your opinion about every post. I’m writing one comment for every approx 15 of yours these days.

Angels2020Champs
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Cowboy26
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2 months ago
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Sorry to break it to you ’71 but its not always about you. Maybe the disparity in comments is due to your prime fixation on only one note of music. But I could care less how many comments you make or if generally they are all about the same thing.

To me it’s more than just about ownership, but in general the team as well as the current, past and (hopefully) future players. And despite the slow off season there is always news about this team.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

The 70’s were all Andrew.  😂 

red floyd
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2 months ago

Beat me to it!

red floyd
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2 months ago
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I thought they were Andrew’s fault.

M.C.Homer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Don’t forget Tanana!
Ryan and Tanana days just as frustrating as Trout/Ohtani

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2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

MC HOMER post moar please!! I’d like to see you over 100 comments by the end of the month 🙂

M.C.Homer
Member
2 months ago

Cool. I’m more active because I’m out sick today. I work a lot…

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

Don’t forget to squeeze in a potty break every once in awhile (which could be a good time post!)

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M.C.Homer
Member
2 months ago

Haha. Yup. Appreciate that.
I work in clean room with multiple cameras watching our every move..
No messin around.
Might as well be on Mars.
It’s a mission just getting to a restroom

Fansince1971
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

Yamaha and Ryan and 3 days of crying!

M.C.Homer
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Funny.
How about when we had Finley, Langston and Abbott?
I think Abbott was gone by the 1995 meltdown in game 163. Maybe no game 163 if he was there all year?
Ah. Great memories

M.C.Homer
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

71, sounds like we have about the same tenure. My earliest memories of being an Angel fan was when Fregosi was shipped out of town for some dude named Ryan

tanana40
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

Tanana and Ryan and two days of cryin.

M.C.Homer
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

Sounds Like you were there too.
I got Tanana’s autograph when he was literally stepping off the bus to report to the Angels for the 1st time.
Us kids there didn’t know him and thought his name was banana.
What a stud he became.
I clearly remember the hyped nationally televised game between him and “the bird” Mark Fidrych.
They were 2 of the best pitchers in the game at that time

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
2 months ago

What’s crazy is the size of these Dominicans at 15 and 16. MLB is “against steroids”, yet it’s no problem when kids are taking it there to stand out and sign the big contract. They are taking it like candy down there, and we do nothing about it. They’d prefer to tout all these advanced players. It is not a level playing field. Granted they do a great job of developing tools and it’s a total lifestyle down there, but the steroid issue is ignored in the same way Selig ignored it. #firemanfred #cleanuptheacademies

Last edited 2 months ago by HalosFanForLife
Fleckstein
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Or they have fake birth certs

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

Or in the case of Pujols, both!!

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 months ago

Why have the Dodgers abandoned Kershaw? Is he dun-in? And no Texas rumors either. For 10-12 million he’s a gamble but may still have one last hurrah left in him and would be a great mentor.

A CYA winner not signed, asking price too high?

At this point I would take fliers on a couple on invites to ST like Grichuk, Meadows for OF, Chapman for third, Urshela Utl, and Lorenzen for swingman.

Or are the teams thinking in terms of signing after ST starts to get a lower price? Could be. Still Bellinger, Hader, Montgomery and Snell all still out there is weird, but let the games begin, I guess.

Last edited 2 months ago by GrandpaBaseball
BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago

Lorenzen is still floating around? I thought he signed somewhere weeks ago. Yeah, he’s definitely worth a 1-2 year deal.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago

Grichuk to bolster the OF makes a ton of sense since we have more questions than answers with that group.

The only sure thing is Trout and he can’t stay healthy.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

That would be an awkward situation, “Hey Grichuk, we really want you know….as opposed to jettisoning you late in the season…..no for reals….come here and talk to me.”

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Perhaps, but Grichuk’s options are probably limited at this stage and he figures to get plenty of playing time in Anaheim.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

They jettisoned him 2013 and he got over it. I’m sure he’d be fine coming back here..

However, I think there are better options available for a 4th (5th) outfielder out there. Grichuk’s defensive numbers last year were not so good so I’m not sure how much of an improvement he would be over Moniak/Ward/Adell

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Whatever the case, OF is an area of concern.

Trout – Oft-injured & declining.

Moniak – Everyday player or half-season mirage?

Ward – The jury is out until/unless he proves he’s beyond the psychological hurdle of the HBP.

Adell – Thus far, he’s only proven that he’s a .200 hitter with a 40% K rate.

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Marisnick- ugh!

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

How could I forget that stellar signing !!!

Hopefully he flames out quickly during Spring Training rather than raking, getting an opening day roster spot and then reminding everyone that he can’t hit when the real games start.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago

Hey G Pa The only way Chapman will be accepting a Spring Training invite is if you attach a $200 million dollar check to it

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

No problem, Arte can differ 190 million for later this decade.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

This is the way to snark imo

M.C.Homer
Member
2 months ago

How about Kershaw as an Angel?
That might motivate Arte and John

Pineapple12
Super Member
2 months ago

Reid Detmers is your 2024 AL CY Young Award winner !

Last edited 2 months ago by Pineapple12
Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 months ago

All hail false idol Bezos to RSN rescue, fortunately Prime is still something I can poach from a family member

https://cordcuttersnews.com/amazon-buys-part-of-bally-sports-will-become-the-new-streaming-provider-for-bally-sports-direct-to-consumer-streaming/?amp=1

steelgolf
Super Member
2 months ago

Soooooo, I can look forward to watching Angel games on my Kindle?

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Maybe? I guess we will have to see the details. Kings hockey was/is carried by Bally’s but the app doesn’t let me poach someone else’s account anymore (netflix like locations services enabled now), so I use a VPN and ESPN+ to get the game.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago

You have to poach Amazon Prime? I assumed everyone had their own account at this stage since most of us buy random sh*t via Amazon anyway. I think Prime is roughly $99 annually, which is a good deal, frankly.

No, I’m not a paid shill for Amazon though I probably sound like one. Haha

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I don’t have to, I chose to. Like a lot of people choose to spend over $200/month on internet/cable/streaming. I down to $50/month and still have access to everything, even Peacocks “exclusive” Dolphins/Taylor Swift game.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago

I hear you. I only pay for Amazon Prime, Netflix and ESPN+ (for my UFC fix) – approximately $25/month.

I’ll occasionally pay for HBO for a month to binge watch House Of Dragons, etc.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Damn, I can’t use any of those log ins… you’re no good to me!

Don’t forget to add Internet to the total bill, I have to call a gal every year in the retention department to get the same deal.

Twebur
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I will wait and see how it shakes out, but fingers crossed my DirectTV bill will disappeared in a few months. Watching this shitting team play baseball everyday was the only reason I held onto it.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Glutton for punishment, eh?

M.C.Homer
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Was $99. I’ll bet the house it goes up now

Simba
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

Amazon Prime is $139, plus they add tax now. So I think my last bill was $152 or so.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

Currency devaluation (inflation) is a mutha’ f*cka’ aint it?

M.C.Homer
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Yup, and I thought I’d have enough money to retire in eight years

M.C.Homer
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

But we’ll still pay that $152 somehow.
I still think pay per view is coming

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

 🤓  📚 Kindle showing games would be kool, 2 – 4 – 1 deal. We’ll read all about it. If Bezos wants in, and he’s singing “I’m into something good” 🎶  then there is money in it still.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago

Wait. So the baseball world isn’t coming to an end in 2024 after all ?

Last edited 2 months ago by Cowboy26
Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2022/12/20/is-baseball-a-dying-sport/

From Michigan journal of economics, I’m a Rudy fan so I don’t have to believe whatever is written if I don’t wanna 🥶

Last edited 2 months ago by Angels2020Champs
Fansince1971
Legend
2 months ago

Amazon has already announced they will be charging more for Prime if you don’t want commercials. Expect a significant additional payment if you want baseball.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
2 months ago

Sounds like the Angels are not part of the Amazon package. Will still be Bally’s for us it appears.

per MLBTR:

9:50am: Josh Kosman of The New York Post reports that Amazon is giving Diamond roughly $100MM for the streaming rights of the Tigers, Royals, Marlins, Brewers and Rays. That money and the Sinclair settlement money could be presented to a Houston bankruptcy judge as early as today.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Awesome insight, appreciate the updated information especially as it relates to the Angels!

steelgolf
Super Member
2 months ago

There was no way Stroman was coming here, unless they offered just really, really stupid money. He came right out and said he wanted to play for the Yankees, his home team where he grew up.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Can’t begrudge a dude for wanting to play for his hometown team.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

So despite being a free agent in 2020 and choosing the Mets and despite being a free agent in 2021 and choosing the Cubs he just realized he’s a life long Yankees fan and couldn’t sign with anyone else ?

🤔

steelgolf
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

He literally had his agent go to The Yankees and talk to them, and he went public, asking for the Yankees to sign him. He most likely left money on the table, much to the dismay of his agent.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Stroman should have accrued generational wealth at this point to playing for the Yanks probably fulfills some childhood dream. Good for him.