If I Could Gitcho to Lemme Be Platypusy: IIWPM

Just like everyone else should and has thus far I am using baseballtradevalues.com for my trades, sporttrack for my contracts, fangraphs and mlbtr’s free agent contract estimates, etc. etc.

OK. So I start with 68 million dollars to work with in roster/money space. I am trading some cheap players for prospects, which should shave a bit off the payroll and add to this…. Not that it matters because I am not demanding a champion for this must win 2024 season.

Nope. I want to burn the forest and build the farm. I should have money to spare.

Trades

First off, I’d like to rebuild that farm via trades.

So, first moves….

I’m too lazy to add screen shots of these trades, just trust me, I used the sim. Or put em in yourself…. I don’t care.

I tried to cheat the Angels by a few points on each trade because I think some of the prospect values were lower than the teams may think, though I also think the trade market for pitching is pretty crazy. I put the values at the end of the trades.

Angels trade Taylor Ward, Luis Rengifo and Jimmy Herget to the IndiGuards for Daniel Espino (SP), Parker Messick (SP), Ralphy Velazquez (C/1B) and Jaison Chourio (OF) – Guardians 34.9/Angels 30.7

Angels trade Patrick Sandoval, Jose Quijada, Jose Suarez and Andrew Wantz to the Pirates for Termarr Johnson (2B), Thomas Harrigton (SP), Mitch Jebb (SS), Po-Yu Chen (SP) Pirates 43.2/ Angels 38.9

Angels trade Griffin Canning, Mickey Moniak, Matt Thaiss and Kenny Rosenburg to the Tigers for Jackson Jobe (SP), Kevin McGonnigle (Inf) and Troy Melton (SP) Angels 24.7/Tigers 30.5

Free Agent Signings

Sign Eric Lauer (LHSP) 1 year, 5 million dollars.

Sign Spencer Turnbull (RHSP) 1 year, 5 million.

Sign Domingo German (RHSP) 1 year, 7 million.

Sign Brandon Hughes (LHRP) 1 year, 1 million.

Sign Isaiah Kiner Falefa (RH SS/3B/2B/CF) 1 year, 5 million

Sign Adam Duvall (RH 1B/OF/CF) 1 year 12 million

Sign Joey Gallo (LH OF/1B/3B/DH 1 year, 8 million

Sign Garrett Cooper (RH 1B/RF/DH) 1 year, 5 million

That’s three starters, a pen lefty and four position players for 48 million dollars…. I think…. it’s late at night. Bad math.

So, what does this bruiser of a team look like?

At first glance I know what half the chumps on this site are gonna say. It will be some sort of “That won’t win 8o games! Mah gird the pitching! Can’t develop a case of the clap!” and it will come out all choked and sort of muffled by their pulling their jaws back real hard against their double chins while they say it.

And yes. That’s probably true. BUT we picked up 6 quality pitching prospects, a guy who will likely be a solid starter at 2B in our future, two more solid infield prospects, a really talented young outfield prospect and a solid C/1B prospect.

PLUS! if angry goiter boy is right and the team sucks, but ANY of Drury, Duvall, Cooper, Hughes, Estevez, Anderson, Stassi, Gallo, Falefa, German, Turnbull or Lauer are good we trade them for prospects too. Say we manage to get 4 more quality prospects in trades…. that’s 15 quality prospects to add to the farm from one lost season, maybe more.

And, of course, we will get to see Nolan, Neto, Adell, Logan and a huge pile of young arms. I fully expect to see a lot of pitchers shuttle through this roster. The goal is to find a couple that can start and relieve long term for us this year.

Of course, if all of those guys are good, as are Shamwow and Neto… or Rendon and Trout are healthy…. Then we have a fairly versatile team of veterans and kids. You’d be surprised how many positions some of those guys can play passably. The whole line up and most of the bench has at least 15 HR power with Rendon, Trout, Duvall, Gallo, Adell and O’Hoppe all capable of more. pitching will be the great mystery, but when isn’t it? And there’s just no way to fix that in even TWO off seasons without developing some arms….

So here’s that roster:

1B Nolan Schanuel/Drury/Gallo/Cooper

2B Brandon Drury/Falefa/Fletcher

3B Anthony Rendon/Cooper/Falefa/Drury/Gallo

SS Zach Neto/Falefa/Fletcher

RF Joey Gallo/Duvall/Cooper

CF Mike Trout/Duvall/Gallo/Adell

LF Adam Duvall/Adell/Trout/Gallo

C Logan O’ Hoppe/Stassi

DH – Garrett Cooper – everyone

OF4 – Jo Adell

UTL – David Fletcher

C2 – Max Stassi

Pitching

SP – Reid Detmers

SP – Tyler Anderson

SP – Domingo German

SP – Eric Lauer

SP – Spencer Turnbull

WAITING – Chase Silseth, Sam Bachman, Davis Daniel, Jack Kachonovicz, Coleman Crow + new prospects

Clsr – Carlos Estevez

RRP – Jose Soriano

RRP – Ben Joyce

RRP – Kelvin Caceres

RRP – Victor Maderos

LRP – Adam Kolarek

LRP – Kolton Ingram

LRP – Brandon Hughes

Waiting: Jhonny Diaz, Robinson Pina, Kenyon Yovan, Zac Kristofak, Nick Jones, Jake Lee, Luke Murphy + new Prospects

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Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 months ago

We all wondered WTH or Why the Hell Arte was doing when he cleaned house of salary, now we know. We will get a better (Best) QO compensation pick if we lose Shohei.

Last edited 2 months ago by Angelz4ever
Fansince1971
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

We all knew that was why the salary dump was occurring. It was discussed over and over again on this site. There was no mystery in this. But how about asking the better question WTH give up 2 of your best prospects (both Top 100) for a one month rental?!

Last edited 2 months ago by Fansince1971
Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

We may never know……

But the bigger question is why is the JeDi shedding so much payroll the last few days?

Last edited 2 months ago by Cowboy26
Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Because he has some contracts getting to their max value and his young core is hitting their Arb years. He also has holes to still fill on the roster.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 months ago

this is a terrible team and congratulations- it would be the first 100-game loser – so with everyone writing these chasing last place does that mean you win?

just no interest in a rebuild here. Help my buddy MNT out.

Fansince1971
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

The rebuild idea is as good as anything that’s been attempted in the last decade.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Agreed. If Arte was rationale, he would have commissioned a rebuild years ago but considering how he allowed the farm system to get decimated, would we have trusted this organization to successfully complete that rebuild?

I think you have to assume that Arte will compete whether he re—–signs Ohtani or not, with the team going over the CBT ( probably up to the second CBT tier level) if he re—–ups and right up to the limit if he doesn’t

With todays news that the Angels waiver “shenanigans” got them below the threshhold only reinforces the believe since there would be ni repeater penalties in 2024 form going over the initial $237 million level.

My thoughts are the Angels will sign a FA pitcher this week regardless if Ohtani finally makes his decision. I also think they are more inclined to sign a free agent with a QO pick penalty attached to it. With other decisions ( like signing Cody Bellinger) waiting on Ohtani. I know thats not enough to ensure us to be competitive but that is probably the cards we are dealt. I am still hopeful that the Ron Washington factor will allow us to acquire player that can help this team ( like Tim Anderson) not just their bank account

2002heaven
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2 months ago

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Get him…….NOW!!!
Retool into the DBacks and Reds………..SPEED KILLS NOT WAITING FOR A WATERMELLON PITCH OVER THE PLATE
 💪  💪  💪  💪 

Last edited 2 months ago by 2002heaven
Biggiswrth
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2 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Still waiting…………………………

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

This is a part of it
The HR era in MLB is coming to end, the BP ace which started in the 70’s with the A’s and Roland Fingers already has. Send Samuel Bachman and Mateo Thaiss to San Luis for Tomas Edman.
ADIOS!!!

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
2 months ago

With the Cowboy hat retired. The Kabuto likely retired. If they bring in Gallo, they could use a sombrero. A golden sombrero. He’s got more than enough to go around.

Last edited 2 months ago by HalosFanForLife
Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 months ago

Oh yeah, nobody would get woke triggered over wearing a sombrero in the dugout…..

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

LOL. Yeah, they should put on a fake mustache too and hand them some maracas. LOL

Last edited 2 months ago by HalosFanForLife
HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

You Win. That’s the celebration song.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 months ago

“Ohtani Free Agency Update: Mets, Rangers, Dodgers Exit $600M Race for Two-Way Star” Sports World News.
Well, how many are left, inquiring minds……

Pineapple12
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Huh?

Please provide a link

Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Sports World News

I went to site, but I believe you have to sign up to be able to scroll site stories.

Pineapple12
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Respectfully, I’m not buying that the Dodgers removed themselves from the Ohtani sweepstakes.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I easily found the post but no reveals of source. No way are the Dodgers out of it. But the problem for them is that they average 52-53 thousand a game, that leaves only 4-6 thousand tickets a night, Shohei draws that on a bad night. 😆 

Fansince1971
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Dude – come on – that’s a ChatGPD bot article. I think this is the same source that said Ohtani had been spotted in Japan after clearing out his locker using old video footage. He was in fact in California. This is click-bait. Completely unreliable.

Last edited 2 months ago by Fansince1971
Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

LOL, I didn’t say I believed it.

2GA2Join
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Arte is bidding against himself….

Well, if the article was true, I guess it would just be the Cubs.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 months ago

Is there a trade stimulator?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

stimulator

matthiasstephan
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

That would be awesome. Could we plug Rendon into it and stimulate the Rays to give us Azorena straight up?

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
2 months ago

There’s a lot here but somehow not as much as I expected. This team definitely mashes. Defense?

I can’t see Domingo German here. I know he’s getting help but the domestic abuse, which was blatant and open, is just too much. Plenty of people get sober and I hope he does.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 months ago

If you’re tanking, do it classy not trashy.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago

Ah, I thought you had Trout packing his bags! Looks good, I like it a lot. Nice to build up the farm and the Angels might even better than the last few years with this makeover.

My only gripe, not a fan of Gallo, too much swing and miss in his game on a team full of those. Maybe he gets his mojo and can flip him.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago

I presume there was no realistic way to jettison washed a$$ Fletcher?

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago

The Crow no longer flies here . He’s now a Met

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Love the idea, but can’t do Gallo. That would be even more painful. I’m taking away “ForLife” if they bring in Gallo.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago

No need to call for Jihad over a one year vet “prove it” deal.

Gallo has proven power & decent career OBP numbers and if he “finds it”, he can be flipped for a prospect at the deadline or cut with little loss if he blows. Shrug.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Nope. If they don’t see him as a failed experiment everywhere he’s been – I have to move on. LOL

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 months ago

YES! That’s the ticket, Dy-no-mite. It is time to but this team back together.

What’s to like, the idea of putting out a winning product in three or so years down the road and being in the hunt legitimately.

What’s not to like, maybe the Duvall and Gallo signings.

Time to change direction and work for a sustainable product.

Anyone gets hot by the end of July-see ya and thanx for the memories and oh, your minor leaguers or controllable young major leaguers.

Gitcho, you made my day. Someone finally getz it. 😃 

Fansince1971
Legend
2 months ago

🔥 I like it a lot. I am all for burning it down to rebuild. Being in the middle (like the Angels have been) is the worst place to be in MLB. You gotta suck a little sometimes and be patient to move up. I’d rather see the team you created overachieve and win 75-80 games than watch a team like the Angels have had over the last 10 seasons win 75-80 and underachieve. And the prospect riches are a huge bonus.

The one year deals are interesting and essentially risk free. I like that concept if it can be achieved.

Last edited 2 months ago by Fansince1971
Angelstan
Trusted Member
2 months ago

This proposal is hugely interesting and entertaining. It has many trades, but it isn’t a total blowup because you get some vets back who could turn into something. The Gallo and Duvall duo sadly would account for more swing and misses than anyone could watch. So maybe not both of them. German I think had steroid, injury, and/or other off the field issues. I’d think twice about adding him too. Also, doesn’t Bachman make the club? Or is he still hurt? I would think Silseth makes the club too.

Again, I find this version more interesting than many others. I would change out a few names and bring in a Merrifeld or Kiermeier instead. But thanks for the reading material.

BannedInLA
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

Big fan of Whit to bring some speed, decent bat & IF/OF depth.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
2 months ago

Blowing up the roster has to be done. I’m in.

Thanks for the work on this!