Nail Biter Postgame

Today Patrick Sandoval went up against Kodai Senga. The game was scoreless until the third inning. Nolan Schanuel led off with a hit by pitch. Shohei Ohtani doubled to send Schanuel to third.

Brandon Drury hit a sacrifice fly to make it 1-0 Angels.

Mike Moustakas singled to score Ohtani. 2-0 Angels.

Luis Rengifo flied out and Logan O’Hoppe struck out.

Francisco Lindor homered to make it 2-1 Angels. Nolan Schanuel made this nice diving play in the fourth inning. The kid can field.

Patrick Sandoval walked four through 6 innings, including three in a row to Pete Alonso. There was no further scoring through seven when Matt Moore came in to pitch. The Mets got Danny Mendick to third with a double and a sac bunt. O’Hoppe got an error for how he fielded the bunt. Randal Grichuk and Logan O’Hoppe combined for an outfield flyout/gun ’em down at the plate double play to end the seventh. It was still 2-1 Angels. Reynaldo Lopez came in to pitch for Matt Moore in the eighth and did his job.

In the ninth, Hunter Renfroe drew a one out walk. Randal Grichuk drew a two out walk on a pitch that was ruled a wild pitch. Renfroe moved up to third. Nolan Schanuel contributed a base hit to score Renfroe. It was not pretty, but it was effective. Whew! 3-1 Angels.

Carlos Estevez came in to pitch the ninth inning. He got two guys out in a row, but Jonathan Arauz singled to keep the Mets alive. They brought in Daniel Vogelbach to pinch hit with a man in scoring position on second due to defensive indifference. Estevez struck out Daniel Vogelbach to end the game. The Angels won 3-1.

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Kiyotchan
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7 months ago

The Angels are back to 9th best AL team now!

halofansince1978
Super Member
7 months ago

I’ve got a dollar that says Seattle flames out in September.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

Are you sure you do not want to reduce that to 50 cents, sir? They are leading 11-1 in 6th inning. After they sweep KC & the Sunshine Band, they are likely dominating the A’s.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

And then September begins!

Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Looking at Mariners, Arstros, and Rangers September schedule, my lying eye test says Arstros have the easiest one. The Angels might determine whether Rangers or Mariners will make the playoffs or not. It will be fun September. And it also makes me sad that we have only one more month of regular season. The 2023 season flew by.

halofansince1978
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Only 173 days until pitchers and catchers report to Tempe. `;~}}

Cowboy26
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7 months ago

Gold.

’78 wins the internet tonight

halofansince1978
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7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

File it under K’s Fun Facts!!

Eric_in_Portland
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7 months ago

big homerun for El Segundo

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

Nothing against these Texas kids, but El Segundo team will most likely reach the Little League WS final tomorrow, defeating Seattle team yesterday. I am aware El Segundo is not in OC, but it might mean that in 10 years, Angels will defeat Mariners and both Texas teams to reach World Series.

Fun fact; Lars Nootbar of St. Louis played for El Segundo.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Texas team is grumbling why they do not get to play El Segundo again since Texas was previously undefeated and El Segundo had to come from loser’s bracket.

Taiwan team is also complaining the same, losing to Curacao because of one error. Taiwan was previously undefeated with Curacao having already lost to Taiwan on Wednesday.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Total fake news . Everyone knows that evil sweat shop Arte forced the 🦄 to pitch until his arm fell off

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

This is by Rhett Bollinger. It just creates more questions than answers.

Ohtani and his agent didn’t think it was necessary at the time. And when he skipped his start in Texas it was general arm fatigue and dehydration/cramping, Minasian said. So there was no reason to believe any issues with the elbow. The tear is in a different spot than first time.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

I believe this is the first time that Nevin has exactly the same lineup as that of the previous game. It almost happened one time when Neto was replaced last minute, so I probably should wait few more hours.
https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1695521795326038489

bobblanton
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Bad luck. Schanuel replaced

Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Fletcher’s X just says that Schanuel scratched, but he is not injured. What is going on?

bobblanton
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I have not heard yet

bobblanton
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7 months ago
Reply to  bobblanton

He probably gave Nevin the stink eye in the clubhouse

Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Fletcher is doing similar reporting to what Sammy did on Rendon yesterday.

bobblanton
Trusted Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Need to be more detailed if you are a reporter

Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  bobblanton

One of his X followers wondered the same. This is what he said.

I don’t want people to panic between now and the time it’s released.

bobblanton
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

WTH

Eric_in_Portland
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

that is more likely to cause panic then whatever it is

Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
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Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Great. Probably now has some incurable parasite that will end up eating his entire intestinal walls.

Id say theres a 50 50 chance he never plays another Major League game.

TrAdition.

tanana40
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

My guess is that Nevin did not like the situational hitting in the 9th inning when Nolan blooped the single to CF to plate an insurance run. We all know that in situations like that the Angels swing for the fences.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

DFA’d for striking out twice last nite

BannedInLA
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7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

And rightly so. This team has a 3 K minimum to remain in the lineup.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

A few things about Kodai Senga.

-He was not highly touted like Yu Darvish, Masahiro Tanaka, or Sho who all made their marks by participating in Koshien national high school tournament.

-He was drafted as part of developmental players in 2010 by SoftBank Hawks (owned by Masayoshi Son, who I suspect was somehow associated with Japanese investor known to bid for the Angels last year)

-Developmental players in NPB are loosely equivalent to minor leaguers who are not on 40 man roster. NPB teams have 60 man roster rule. They are paid minimum of ¥2.4M ($1.6K) per year with meals and living quarter provided.

-Senga was added to Hawks 60 man roster in 2012 and was first used as reliever. Suffered several right shoulder ailments, but started 2016 season as (#5 of 6) rotation starter. He had 12 wins as starter and became the first developmental player to have 10+ wins in a single NPB season. He was selected for Team Japan for 2017 WBC, but was the losing pitcher in semi final game against Team USA. He was selected All WBC Team for 16 strike outs over 11 innings. He also declared desire to play in MLB after 2017 season. His salary reached ¥1.25B ($833K)

-2019 was his best year in NPB, striking out 227 batters and broke NPB record of SO/9 innings at 11.22, He also pitched his first no hitter. His salary went up to ¥4B ($2.67M) in 2020.

-Senga acquired FA eligibility for MLB after playing the minimum of 9 years in NPB. He chose Mets at $15M x 5 yr with 4th year at player’s option. Note that he was FA, so Mets did not have to pay posting transaction fee (It would have been $20M).

The way I look at Senga would be equivalent to a high schooler who got drafted at 12th round and, through hard work and persistence, made it to MLB as legitimate #1 or #2 starter.

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rosstrade
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7 months ago

I think there is something heroic about the way that Ohtani is playing through his injury with grit and production.

Sandy said it’s clear that The Sho cares about his teammates and is playing with determination through what must have been devastating news on his injury, which could require a second TJ surgery – the first happening in 2018, which seems like just yesterday.

There are so many damn prima donnas out there in baseball land, guys like Verlander, we’ve recently learned, who are all about a payday, or personal ambition, or just plain assholes.

Ohtani stands out for his old-school values of team, taking care of your own (giving his Home Run Derby money to the Angles training and personnel staff), and being humble and self-sacrificing in the me-first age that we are living in….

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MarineLayer
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7 months ago
Reply to  rosstrade

And then there’s Rendon, the anti-Ohtani who exists to collect his paychecks.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Ha Ha Ha.

ML’s Rendone hot take no. 2,142

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/04c7b1b3-14f9-4f76-bdd8-7ce4f28a9b7d

MarineLayer
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7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Not really. Read my history.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I have all season . It’s beyond obsessive to the point of comical ML . Your lack of self awareness is astonishing.

BannedInLA
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7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

WTF is this border skirmish about?

halofansince1978
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7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Imbroglio, rhubarb, kerfuffle, bobbery, brouhaha…boys will be boys!

Cowboy26
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7 months ago

How about a tussle ?

BannedInLA
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7 months ago

Give em’ boxing gloves. Unless they of course they prefer to oil wrestle…

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

how about a wet T shirt contest?

HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
Trusted Member
7 months ago

The Mariners are now tied with the Rangers for first place in the AL West

Texas, on an eight-game losing streak, had sole possession of first place since April 14th

Could have been Us but we cursed

matthiasstephan
Super Member
7 months ago

We still have a chance to finish the season with a winning record.

tanana40
Super Member
7 months ago

Just amazing,

Cowboy26
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7 months ago

The Merman have now won 25 of their last 33 games.

This is the winning streak the Angels had envisioned during the pennant race.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Exactly. Not blaming anyone in particular, but the first game of the 4 game Mariners series where Estevez gave up grand slam to relatively unknown Cade Marlowe was decisively pivotal. With that win, the Mariners have gone on to sweep the Angels and have been in current winning trend. Angels, on the other hand, have not won any series and been swept by the Reds.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

During this 33 game hit streak Jerry’s kids have averaged 5.65 runs per game with a team OPS of .839.The pitching staff has a team ERA of 3.33 while allowing only 27% of the inherited runs to score. Defensively, only 9 runs scored by the opposition were unearned. 9!

During the Angels last 33 games the Halos have scored an average 4.0 runs per game with a team OPS of only .696. The Angels pitching has yielded a 5.01 ERA over that same time frame and the shotty defense has led to 23 Unearned Runs.

FungoAle
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Pitching and defense. When the Giants won 3 WS, 2010, 2012 and 2014, it was all about pitching and defense. You just hope the offense will contribute with key hits at the the right time. I like this style of team.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

2014 & 2015 Kansas City Royals were the postal child for a similar strategy In fact even going more extreme they did it with Defense and a lock down bullpen but not necessarily dominant starting pitching.

MarineLayer
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7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

How about our 2002 Angels with our lockdown bullpen, and great situational hitting and running.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I laughed when Mariners traded Sewald for Rojas and Canzone, thinking that Dipoto gave up on this season. Rojas used to hit only 0.228/0.292/.296 with 0HR for DBacks, but for Mariners, 0.291/0.328/0.436 with 2HR. Canzone is pretty decent stick, too. Is Mariners hitting coach really that good?

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago

Imagine the devastation that the Rangers and they’re fans will feel if they blow this? Wow,

MarineLayer
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7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

It’s something to look forward to.

tanana40
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7 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Along with the Mariners blowing it in September.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

With playoff pressure gone, Angels will face Texas and Mariners for 3 game series each next month, Would not be all surprised that Angels will perform ideal spoiler role for them. It is too bad they don’t play Arstros in September.

BannedInLA
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7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

*their

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago

At the Pantera – Metallica concert tonight. In between bands. Angels won. Cool.

clover_black
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

nice.

Going Sunday.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

We’ll be there too.

Sofi is frankly way too big a venue for music (not to mention being a soul less example of modern architecture, but I digress) – Metallica still kicks ass

clover_black
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Yea heard that acoustics not the best ,,, especially if you’re up high.

Never been to sofi so excited to check it out. Wish pantera was playing oh well.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

We’re in section 207 – which are good, but not great seats. It’s simply too cavernous for music on the whole. Metallic brought it and will again tomorrow night.

clover_black
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Sweet: we are in 200s also. Looking forward to a 16 dollar beer, gonna be worth it

BannedInLA
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7 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

I was definitely happy to catch Pantera.

RESPECT WALK !!!!

Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Remember the roof leaks. So if it is raining, I would bring your raincoat,  😉 

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Seriously? It’s only a few years old. Haha

Guest
7 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

How can there be a Pantera without Dimebag?

BannedInLA
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7 months ago
Reply to 

Yeah, it’s still weird. Always will be. They did a video tribute to him towards the end of their set.

red floyd
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7 months ago

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red floyd
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7 months ago

Does anyone have video/GIF of the K3YerOut against Rengifo to end the 8th? Terry and Mark were VERY upset about that one.

Was this ump the second coming of Angel Hernandez and Laz Diaz?

GrandpaBaseball
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7 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Today’s game Umpire was in their class all the way.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
7 months ago

Not one of them graduated Umpire School.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

my buffer is only about 15mins. Shudda asked about 20 mins ago

red floyd
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Sorry, just got home a few minutes ago.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

it was a horrendous call.

I only saw a few innings but in that short time, it was like
10 bad calls against us
10 bad calls for us

trash

steelgolf
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

He may have been worse than either of those blind mice.

Pineapple12
Super Member
7 months ago

Is it completely outta pocket to compare Schanuel to Ichiro at the plate ?

Just curious

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Yes. Before Shohei appeared, Ichiro was someone many Japanese baseball fans including me worshipped. He is probably going to be second unanimous HOFer after Mariano Rivera. Ichiro was fast with 509 stolen bases over 19 years in MLB. He hit 362 doubles, 96 triples, and 117 homeruns. He holds single season MLB record 262 hits in 2004, which may never be broken.

Let’s wait on Schanuel. He got drafted couple months ago and only played 7th MLB game. Let him marinate for a season or two. I want to see when Nevin ( or whoever new manager may be) asks Schanuel in spring training to hit for power and he unleashes 500 ft homer on opposite field, just as Ichiro did when Lou Piniella asked him to pull to the right side since Ichiro kept hitting single to the left side. Ichiro pulls and hits a line drive homer over the right side fence and quipped, “Is that ok, skip?”

GrandpaBaseball
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

No one will ever break that hits in a season record, never.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago

Well at the same time he wouldn’t take a walk to save his life.

BannedInLA
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7 months ago

Particularly in the current era of HR or SO ball.

Pineapple12
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Oh, absolutely! I should have clarified — their approach at the plate are somewhat similar? Maybe?

Schanuel has that Ichiro/Arraez contact gene.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

If Schanuel learns to do that pull sleeve up and hold the bat vertically like Samurai sword before every pitch AND me consuming half pint of cold Heferweizen, I can see the resemblance.  😉 

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DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

He used to fart in the batter’s box prior to every pitch. They didn’t call him itchy-hole for nothing.

Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

 😂  😅  😆 

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Plus he slashed and dashed alot during his career.

That ain’t Schanuel.

steelgolf
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

And don’t overlook Ichiro’s arm. He has a canon.

Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

The play when Laser Beam became the most popular Japanized English word.
https://youtu.be/WYAxk01E404?si=5V1hmZ9ZP4n610Mw

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steelgolf
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7 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I saw him throw a shot to 3rd at Angel Stadium and couldn’t believe what I had just seen.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

He was a pitcher in high school, and he loved pitching. Of course, when he started in NPB, he had to stick to hitting as position player, but if he were given a chance to be two way, he could have been a decent short inning reliever, and he would have cherished it.

I also recall when he was with the Marlins, the manager let him pitch an inning in Ichiro’s 1st season in Miami in late September. I think he was still throwing 90 MPH fastball at age 41.

BannedInLA
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Naw homie, I dig it.

FungoAle
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

He is closer to JB Shuck than Ichiro. LOL. Ichiro was godly. Best Japanese player ever.

Trout_is_my_Bestie
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7 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Mmmm, I’d say Ichiro was godly in his mystique more than his play. His hitting was definitely overrated. He was a singles hitter that didn’t work any walks. Career OPS+ of 107.

On the other hand he was incredible in the field and on the base paths.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago

plus he was physically extremely flexible.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago

I stand corrected. Shanuel now has 7 game hitting streak.

JackFrost
Super Member
7 months ago

Nothing to celebrate here … What is our record ? 62-67 ?

That is pathetic. We have to be the biggest underachievers in MLB.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
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JackFrost
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

There was no joy to steal, lol.

GrandpaBaseball
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7 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Injuries took care of that.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Joy – in no particular order:
Nolan Schanuel played well
Carlos Estevez pitched well
Shohei did Shohei things
Patrick Sandoval pitched pretty dang well

Take your happy pill, get some sleep, we’ll go back to dooming tomorrow, old friend.

DowningDude
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7 months ago
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I’m stimpy and Jack is Ren. PUT ON YOUR HAPPY HELMET, JACK-O!

JackFrost
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

You don’t get it do you ?

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

no. did i miss some funny joke?

DowningDude
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7 months ago
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Eric_in_Portland
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7 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Jack, I had a dream last night we won 7 in a row here. So far it’s coming true

JackFrost
Super Member
7 months ago

 😉 

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Wouldn’t that also be the Padres & the Mets ?

Last edited 7 months ago by Cowboy26
tanana40
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7 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

The Padres say hello.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
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BannedInLA
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7 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

Padres are a bigger disappointment as they don’t have the injury factor that plagued the Angels.

MarineLayer
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7 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I’d throw us in a tier with the Mets, Yankees, White Sox and Padres.

DowningDude
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7 months ago

we r sofa king play awf bownd

Pineapple12
Super Member
7 months ago

Seattle is finally about to catch Texas.

damn

Kiyotchan
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Baseball God is finicky. Is it Yogi Berra who said that? Or is it something about fat opera singer sings. I forget. I guess Yogi Berra was not exactly politically correct.

FungoAle
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

It’s about pitching this time of year. Look at the Mariner lineup, not impressive at all.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
7 months ago

I think the one word to describe the Halo’s season this year is:

Sad

All of the injuries, the bad managerial moves, Perry’s desperate recent acquisitions, Arte suddenly NOT selling the team, and the erratic play on the field has made this a season to forget.- despite the team still having a statistical chance to make the playoffs.

At the end, though, Ohtani tearing his UCL is the saddest part of all.

AngelsFanInHell
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7 months ago
Reply to  rosstrade

Yup

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red floyd
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7 months ago
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FungoAle
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7 months ago
Reply to  rosstrade

I think you summed it up nicely.

It would have been better if Perry used his top prospects who would contribute next year and provide value. He always comes off desperate.

Yes, I feel real bad for Ohtani. He deserved to hit the open market at peak value with no injury concern. Quietly was hoping he would hook on with the Giants.

Last edited 7 months ago by FungoAle
MarineLayer
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7 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

To me, he’s the guy at the poker table, who doesn’t realize that he is the mark.

MarineLayer
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7 months ago
Reply to  rosstrade

Along with watching Mike Trout aging before our eyes.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago

As he quickly is becoming the second most favorite Angel Nolan of all time, Schanuel currently has more hits ( 8 singles) then walks (7) in his very young career.

But what’s the over/under on his first MLB extra base hit?

Twebur
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7 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

September 15, 2023.

Pineapple12
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7 months ago

Perry W
Eppler L

I really really really like Schanuel 😇

AngelsFanInHell
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Perry is still an idiot because he is just a Yes man for Arte.

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Pineapple12
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7 months ago

If Perry was a true yes man, we would have signed Trea Turner to 10 years $300 million.

I am a big fan of Perry

AngelsFanInHell
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

The only reason that didn’t happen is because they were saving money to keep Shohei. They dodged a a big bullet.

Pineapple12
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7 months ago

The only reason that it didn’t happen was because Perry told Arte it wasn’t the shrewd move.

If Arte had his way, Turner is a ‘gel

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

arguing about this is a waste of time unless we were in the room with Farty and Pairry

Pineapple12
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7 months ago
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Last edited 7 months ago by Pineapple12
Kiyotchan
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Most of us are familiar with that information. It is amazing that Arte DID listen to the advice. I wonder if Perry pulled ‘George Costanza’ on Arte.  😉 

DowningDude
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

the word shrewd never appeared in the article

Pineapple12
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

That’s a very shrewd observation 🤓

steelgolf
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

It would be a very Arte thing to do. It’s why when the team needed top tier pitching, we ended up with Vernone Wells and later, Josh Hamilton.

MarineLayer
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7 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

So true.

AngelsFanInHell
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7 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I enjoy discussions like this. I am always open to different opinions. I am far from an expert on baseball.

AngelsFanInHell
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

How could they possibly have signed Shohei and Turner with Rendon eating up so much salary?

GrandpaBaseball
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7 months ago

We would have missed out on; Anderson, yikes…..Renfroe, darn…..Drury, sad…..Gio, oh no…..Estevez, gosh no…….stuck with Walsh, Adell, Fletch, but no Moose, no Neto, along with trading Ohtani…..so yep, we would have had a new SS named Turner.

FungoAle
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

With 3-straight years of sub-.500 baseball, hard to be impressed.

Cowboy26
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7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I am a true fan of Winning.

Someday, hopefully in the not too distant future, I will be able experience that feeling again.

MarineLayer
Super Member
7 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I don’t Arturo had $300 million extra for Minasian to play with.