Angels lose to the Braves 5-1

The Angels enter August with a totally different team than the one that entered July. New hitters, new pitchers, and in the middle of a huge opportunity to gain games in the playoff races. Just as the deadline came and went, Perry made one last move, getting yet another reliever for the middle of the bullpen as Bachman was moved to the 60 day IL.

Patrick Sandoval was not going to have an easy time, as the Braves was the best offense in the NL AND they had their ace on the mound so he would have to be practically perfect. He wasn’t, going 5 innings, giving up 2 runs on 3 hits, striking out 3 and walking 4.

And the ace of the Braves showed that he was indeed an ace, keeping the Angels to only 1 run in 6 and 2/3 innings, meaning the Angels were losing heading into the last third of the game. Maybe, if the bullpen was able to shut down this offense again they could have a chance.

Yet that was not the case as Webb shit the bed, giving up 3 runs in the 7th and let the game get away. It was an expected loss, sure, but one that stung bad due to how close it was until it was not.

Highlighted Recap

The Braves scored first in the 1st on a sac fly.

1-0 Braves

Neto did tie it up in the 5th, however with an RBI groundout.

Still no hits with RISP though

Alas, Sandy gave that run right back by allowing Harris II to be the first lefty to hit a home run off of him since August 2021.

2-1 Braves

The Angels had their chances but couldn’t score in the 6th and 7th. But the Braves could, hitting a home run off of Webb in his 2nd inning.

4-1 Braves

And another.

5-1 Braves

It was rather unfortunate as that was the last scoring of the game, with former Angel Raisel shutting the door. Maybe a salary dump wasn’t the smartest idea, ARTE.

Upcoming

Morning game tomorrow at 9:20 AM. After that the Angels will head home to face the Mariners for 4 games as we enter the final 2 months of the season. At least Toronto lost.

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DowningDude
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8 months ago

We knew that was gonna be a tough game. But damn, that was tough.

Fansince1971
Legend
8 months ago

Strider – arguably the most dominant pitcher in MLB right now – was originally a 35th round pick in the 2017 draft by the Indians (did not sign).

He was then drafted in 2020 by the Braves in the 4th round! #126 overall. To put that in perspective, the Angels took Werner Blakely with their 4th round pick in 2020 at 111.

Anyone who thinks that drafting is a perfect science should think again.

Fansince1971
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8 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

By the way – some dreaming – can you imagine if the Angels had drafted Detmers AND. Strider?!

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

You know the Angels drafted Buster Posey in the 50th round of the 2005 draft but , alas, he did not sign.

He must have been intimidated by Premium.

DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Too soon

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
8 months ago

2/3rds of the way through the season. At this pace we’d win 84. Somehow we have to pick up 6 extra wins to go 34-20 instead of 28-26. That might be impossible

nishiogawakun
Super Member
8 months ago

I believe! *flaps arms furiously*

Cowboy26
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8 months ago

Look forward to Seeing you on thursday B.D.

https://twitter.com/SaltLakeBees/status/1686554378487160832

DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Bal Doquin?

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Still Too Soon

Troutstrikeout
Trusted Member
8 months ago

Went to a Braves Angels game last July 2022 and Atlanta might have the best park in baseball. Seriously. The battery area that surrounds the stadium is beyond amazing and the way it leads into the park is just awesome. Before I thought you could only have a great stadium if it was in a downtown type area like petco with the gaslamp or wrigleyville. But Atlanta is in the middle of a corporate parking lot yet dare I say it’s better than petco? Yeah, maybe. Anyways it gave me hope that one day Angel stadium can be that awesome if done right. I always thought Angel stadium a lost cause as a truly great fan experience since it’s just in the middle of a big parking lot. Atlanta showed me that’s not a hindrance at all. Literally just copy the battery exactly. Aesthetically my 2 favorite stadiums are in PNC in Pittsburgh and pac bell in SF but after going to Atlanta it’s up there and without being next to a river or ocean or in the middle of a downtown. And let’s win the series tomorrow.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Troutstrikeout

You’ve mentioned 3 stadiums that I haven’t been to so I can’t comment, but out of the venues I have visited, I like San Diego’s A LOT. In fact, I love it there.

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago

Common Perry W. This Schanuel kid is a hitting machine lol

“Back-to-back three-hit games for Nolan Schanuel!”

https://twitter.com/trashpandas/status/1686563937012056066?t=jF65RX8Uz-EHghHhcTSykA&s=19

Fansince1971
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8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Would love a majority young team in 2024. Let them develop and become a home grown team. That’s my dream.

Pineapple12
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8 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

It will be beautiful

C – O’Hoppe/Thaiss = homegrown
1B – Schanuel = homegrown
2B – Drury = grew up an Angels fan, close enough
SS – Neto = homegrown
3B – Rengifo = kinda homegrown
LF – Moniak = kinda homegrown
CF – Trout = homegrown
RF – Ward/Adell = homegrown
DH – Ohtani = homegrown 😜
SP – Ohtani/Detmers/Sandoval/Canning/Silseth = homegrown
RP – Soriano – Joyce – Bachman = homegrown

Last edited 8 months ago by Pineapple12
Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

O’Hoppe is kinda Homegrown as much as Moniak.

Pineapple12
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I know. We traded Marsh, who was homegrown, for O’Hoppe straight up. Add in Thaiss and it’s close enough lol

Last edited 8 months ago by Pineapple12
Marcotor
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8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

But.. but.. Arte wastes all the money on big splashes that always fail! Don’t you read the experts here?

aces666high
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8 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I still remember our home grown infield of Jack Howell, Dick Schofield, Mark Mclemore and Wally Joyner.

It didn’t last long but I always thought it was so cool.

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  aces666high

2008 was a special year – (100-62) – of homegrown infield talent:

Mike Napoli/Jeff Mathis, Casey Kotchman ➡️ Mark Teixeira, Hitman Howie Kendrick (my personal fave), Erick Aybar, Chone Figgins, Mighty Maicer Izturis

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Mouse Tits was not home grown.

Pineapple12
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Assuming Mouse Tits is Tex ? You are 100% right.

We traded the Kotchman, who was homegrown, for him and Kotch didn’t finish the season with us. Just decided to type out the 2008 infield at that point, but left out Brandon Wood for obvious reasons.

Last edited 8 months ago by Pineapple12
Jimmuscomp
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8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Mouse Tits was Maicer.

Great nickname game back then.

Napoli = Nipples
Izturis = Mouse Tits
Kendrick = HK47
Mathis = Premium

Man, HH was fun back then – this place is fun too but it was different back then. Rev running the OG HH was a different beast.

Pineapple12
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8 months ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

Ahhh shoot totally forgot, thank you!
I was also 13 at the time, so yea lol.

Rev’s HH was something different 😂

Last edited 8 months ago by Pineapple12
Fansince1971
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8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Wait – you were 13 in 2008? So 28 now?

Last edited 8 months ago by Fansince1971
steelgolf
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8 months ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

Kendrick was also RK-47. Had a knack for hitting into rally killing double plays. At least that is what we thought at the time, before we experienced the true GIDP machine, known as Pujols.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

My GF at the time used to refer to Macier as “The Rat”, haha

DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

The rat was was Pedroia.

Maicer was also “Boy King” as he looked quite like a Pharaoh.
Mighty Mouse, Micetits & Boy King. He had a few interchangeables.

anewfoundthrice
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8 months ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

PANTHER. Man I’ll never forget, coming on HH in the midst of a losing 2006 season looking for some insight and clarity and realized we all wanted Orlando Cabrera for the all star game. Also, some girl highfived me for wearing the OG halos heaven panther shirt at a game once

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I will never forgive the umps for giving the yankees
the advantage on every damn ball & strike call that playoff series. I’ll be perpetually bitter about it.

Last edited 8 months ago by BannedInLA
Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I think you mean 2009 2008 we went down to the Chowds in 4 games.

There was so many things wrong with the 2009 ALCS. The Umpires and the League were bound and determined to get the Skanks & AFraud to World Series . Bad Umpire calls as well as a ridiculous off day schedule that ensured that CC Sabathia could pitch in almost every game .

Of course it didnt help that Brian Fuentes had to groove AFraud on an 0-2 pitch for a Yankee RF Pop up when we had that game won.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yes, 2009. I was so p*ssed off I almost stopped watching baseball.

I stopped watching the NBA in the late 1990’s when I watched the league blatantly screw the Utah Jazz against the Bulls in back to back finals. I know we were all supposed to worship “Air Jordan” – which naturally made me dislike him even more.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  aces666high

The representation was cool. The losing was not.

aces666high
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

100% correct lol. Fun to watch but the team results were nothing to write home about.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’m enjoying the early bake off between my guy Matt Shaw and Perry’s guy Schanuel. Shaw went two picks later to the Cubs. He’s at high A playing shortstop.

Schanuel: .500/.611/.654
Shaw: .462/.563/.923

Both playing to type/hype thus far. Shaw with the power, Schanuel with the contact.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

at 2 different levels.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Schanuel’s own slash is the composite of three different levels – 2/3 of his plate appearances were at ACL or Inland – so it’s not oranges to oranges anyway you look at it.

Small samples – but what’s more interesting is the quality of contact. Shaw is showing loft and power out of the gate – Nolan is hitting GBs and line drives, often down the 1B line.

Pretty close to their scouting profiles.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Do you spend more time/focus on the minors & college baseball than you do with the majors? You appear to be very well informed in that area.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

It’s most of what I watch, yeah. I’ve tended to do the farm analysis and draft reporting for CtPG and Halos Heaven before it, going back roughly a decade. I stopped last year due to a new job, and the stage of the Angels farm couldn’t really justify it much anymore.

I don’t have a cable package, but do subscribe to MiLB.tv (the minor league video channel) which more or less defines my priorities. 🙂

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Cool, someone’s gotta’ do it. Your research, our benefit.
Thanks.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Yep but ironically his only extra base hits have come in his last 2 AA games against the tougher competition so hopefully that continues to build.

I dont really watch much college, minor league or prospects tape but I have tried to watch Shamwells last few AA games and I definitely see the lack of exit veto so I definitely get your point.

Schanuel also seemed to have a little more speed and athleticism than what I was expecting but hes no burner out there thats for sure.

Last edited 8 months ago by Cowboy26
Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

He has fringe average speed and is a generally smart baserunner, so he’ll get his extra base hits even if his barrel rate is middling.

I still find him an interesting prospect – an extreme contact-oriented first baseman is an unusual profile. He was top of my second tier for that reason. I just have doubts about the game power and his positional flexibility. All of his XBHs have been spray-hitter stuff – but obviously guys like Sean Casey (and, well, Ichiro) made a career of that.

I was hot on Shaw because the team only had one pick in the top 70, so picking an extreme contact hitter who also can play 5-6 positions and projects for power just seemed the clear value play.

Last edited 8 months ago by Turk's Teeth
BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

He really attacked the baseball on that swing. His hands look fast thru the swing.

Jayman28
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8 months ago

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DowningDude
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8 months ago
Reply to  Jayman28

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Shohei Now
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8 months ago

Dammit, Valdez did it!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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8 months ago
Reply to  Shohei Now

Complete game, 95 pitches

Shohei Now
Trusted Member
8 months ago

You know sometimes a no-hitter leads to a bad streak of pitching. It happened to Detmers last year.

JackFrost
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8 months ago
Reply to  Shohei Now

This is true…

Claret
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Shohei Now

That’s the third no hitter that Maldonado has caught.

WallyChuckChili
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8 months ago
Reply to  Claret

Angels don’t need Maldonado.

We have Stassi

Shohei Now
Trusted Member
8 months ago

If only we did, sadly

steelgolf
Super Member
8 months ago

Who?

WallyChuckChili
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8 months ago

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Shohei Now
Trusted Member
8 months ago

When a team’s Ace is shoving, there isn’t much any team can do about that. Rebound tomorrow for the series win.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Shohei Now

This. If we can snatch tomorrow, today evaporates from memory.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago

I just read that Bachman was transferred to the 60 Day, which means we’ll see him sometime in September at best. I was already resigned to the fact that Joyce is done for 23’, but expected to see Bachman soon. That’s a bit of a blow.

We’re really going to need the starters to go at least 6, ideally 7+ moving forward otherwise we’re going to run Soriano,
Lopez, Moore and “Most Interesting” into the ground.

Webb, Loup and Barria basically can’t be trusted in high leverage situations and unfortunately, every appearance is high leverage at this point.

Shohei Now
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8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Don’t forget to add the “Dominator” to that low leverage list. 😐 

WallyChuckChili
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8 months ago
Reply to  Shohei Now

Dominator?
Low leverage?
More like Domino!

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago

High Leverage:
Estevez
Moore
Lopez
Soriano?
Medium Leverage/Keep him away from the Wife and Children
Leone
Loup
Barria
Webb/Devenski

So it looks like Wevenski will be subject to a death match up to determine who will be the lone survivor when Devo returns in a week?

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Webb will have a sudden case of sore “I suck” shoulder itis.

KPAngel
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8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Now the Leone trade makes sense

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  KPAngel

Are we not Devo?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago

Someone from Asstros is throwing NO-HITTER.

Last edited 8 months ago by Kiyotchan
Shohei Now
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Careful you’ll jinx it

Kiyotchan
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8 months ago
Reply to  Shohei Now

 😆 

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Yes, the Exxon Valdez is throwing a no-hitter.

Brent
Super Member
8 months ago

Over/Under 9.5 LOBsters tomorrow?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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8 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Under

Shohei Now
Trusted Member
8 months ago

Agreed. At least we didn’t continue Strider’s streak of games striking out at least 10.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Shohei Now

What does that matter ? We lost the game, lol.

Shohei Now
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

It doesn’t matter, I was just stating a fact you insufferable Angel fan you!

WallyChuckChili
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8 months ago
Reply to  Shohei Now

That’s b/c Trout wasn’t playing

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Over.

aces666high
Trusted Member
8 months ago

I don’t even care that Webb shit the bed, that’s just a given. The unbelievable lack of situational hitting that still goes on w/this team into the moth of august is just…..stupid?!?! I have no words for the incompetence that goes on w/runners on.

Didn’t expect a sweep so let’s see what team shows up tomorrow.

JakeTaylor
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  aces666high

But Nevin loves the approach!

Angels22
Trusted Member
8 months ago

At least we were in it. Good to see we were not blown out.

BannedInLA
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8 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

Yup. A classic case of the game was closer than the score would indicate. The Braves certainly know that the first two games were dogfights.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
8 months ago

Mr. Frost called it. Tip o’ the cap.

Sandoval pitched good enough to win.
Nice to see Grichuk with the hot bat.
Webb needs to take the midnight train from Georgia to SLC.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago

Webb is the reason why Perry made a play for Leone today. Webb has been worse than Loup this entire month.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Understood. It would certainly help if Philly stops giving the ball to the arsonists

Shohei Now
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

God, I hope Devinski comes back to pre injury form. He’s on rehab I believe.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Shohei Now

That would be nice, though I’m concerned that this first two months was fools gold.
Hope I’m wrong.

Shohei Now
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Get your Hopium in pill form. Just ask your Doctor if Hopium is right for you.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago

1-1 heading into the rubber game. Could be better, but it could be waaaay worse.

Flush it and move on.

Is Drury back this Friday?

Kiyotchan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

You mean Thursday. It sounded like his rehab assignment game went well today, so, it looks good that he joins his teammates in Anaheim on Thursday.

Last edited 8 months ago by Kiyotchan
BannedInLA
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

I assumed Thursday was an off day after this roadie. Ooops.

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 months ago

Sandy was good. Webb was not.

Lets take the series from the best team in baseball tomorrow and keep it rolling.

DowningDude
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8 months ago
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