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LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Shoulder Strain

May 9, 2023

The Angels better find a way to win against Houston or they will go from first place to third or fourth place in less than a week. The word is, Jose Suarez has a left shoulder strain. Chad Wallach has a stiff neck. The Angels selected Cesar Valdez.

Ryan Yarbrough, a pitcher for the Kansas City Royals, was hit in the face by a line drive. He managed to get up and walk off the field. He has since been placed on the injured list with head fractures. Reds reliever Reiver Sanmartin left a game with elbow soreness. He reckons he will end up on the injured list. Victor Robles of the Nationals is on the ten day IL due to back spasms he got stealing a base. Rays reliever Garrett Cleavinger’s knee “grabbed on him” during a rundown play. He’s probably done for the season as it’s an ACL injury. Aaron Judge is expected to return from the injured list today. Max Scherzer is injured but doesn’t want to go on the injured list.

The Royals designated Franmil Reyes for assignment and acquired pitcher James McArthur through trade with the Phillies. The Reds claimed Franklin German from the White Sox. Catcher Grayson Greiner announced his retirement from professional baseball.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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55yearsangelsfan

27 days ago

As long as we’re notorious for rushing up young prospects, Quero should fit right in!

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55yearsangelsfan

27 days ago

Okey is not ok.
Why not Quero? Yeah it’s rushing things, but hopefully Wallach and/or Stassi are back soon, so it wouldn’t be for long. Why not a taste of the majors?

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Angelz4ever

27 days ago

Drury raking is a good sign. Finally, Nevin has a good problem putting the daily line-ups together.

I will never forget the mighty Wade hitting clean up last year.

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Angelz4ever

27 days ago

Lets take the series tonight and squash the Whoston Asstros one more game down in the standings!

Go Halos!

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

The well has definitely runneth dry

https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1656065336301748224

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Eric_in_Portland

27 days ago

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GhostGuest

27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

It’s a good thing Shohei calls his own pitches.

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Twebur

27 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

Unfortunately someone needs to catch them.

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Angelz4ever

27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Good thing to be a catching prospect in the Halos system I guess. Next up AAA starting catcher or Fletch (was emergency #3 catcher)?

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GhostGuest

27 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Move Taylor Ward to catcher and promote Cabbage/Adell to left field! Ward was a catcher in college, remember!

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Angelz4ever

27 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

Oh no, leave Ward right where he’s at. He has done exceptionally well for going from catcher (To 3B) to the OF.

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Angelz4ever

27 days ago

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On another note, I hope Adell gets some ABs with the big club, but we all know what negative ramifications would enable that.

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DowningDude

27 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

Move Mike Trout to catcher.

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max

27 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

haha didn’t Soth say something like that during Trout’s rookie season?

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

Wasn’t that requirement of all Angel first round drafts picks in the mid 2010’s?

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BannedInLA

27 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

That would take an entire offseason plus Winter ball at minimum. This is not going to happen.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Stupid Perry. I said we’d need 5 MLB caliber catchers within the first month and a half of the season. Why couldn’t he see it? I’ll tell you why, because he’s not a real baseball mans. The definition of insanity is doing the same result lots of times but you’re doomed to repeat that history of yours!

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

We’re 4 games over .500 despite leading the league in unearned runs allowed and grounding into the most double plays.

The unearned runs suck. If Rendon’s wrist is less than 100% and he just has to throw that way, not much we can do. But replacing Drury with Walsh at first base should cut down on plenty of those.

GIDP is at least a sign we’re getting plenty of guys on base. And we’re scoring plenty even with them. Still, BABIP incorporates a decent amount of luck and that could swing our way at any time.

In short, if we can just get up to average in those two departments it could be a really fun summer.

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Angelz4ever

27 days ago

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Yep, with just a little tightening up, we can really start to put something together.

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Jimmy says hes back so Jimmy can help the Angels the best way Jimmy knows how.

https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1656047891419660289

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Twebur

27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

The Angels must give these “soon to be designated for assignment” short term call ups a Jeter esque “parting gift swag bag”…and a nice dinner at the local Red LOBster for their troubles.

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halofansince1978

27 days ago

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You called it yesterday!!

“I hope he knows this means he’s going to be released soon.“

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Twebur

27 days ago

Chase Silseth likely to replace injured José Suarez in Angels’ rotation

https://www.ocregister.com/2023/05/08/chase-silseth-likely-to-replace-injured-jose-suarez-in-angels-rotation

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Mikeal1st

27 days ago

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He can’t do much worse.

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

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Who’s going to replace Silseth? Valdez?

That would be no bueno.

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Angelz4ever

27 days ago

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Suarez should really take his time with that injury. How about several starts @ AAA before he is considered to be brought back up?

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

27 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

I see a “setback” in Suarez’s future. Though, really, if “Pitcher” does well in the rotation and Suarez finds himself in the beehive state they can just use him in the pen.

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GhostGuest

27 days ago

We all know that Trout is number 27 and Ohtani is number 17, but do you know any of the other Angel players’ uniform numbers? I don’t.

When I was a kid in the 70s, I could tell you all the regular players’ uni numbers, but shortly after the 02 WS, my unconscious desire to know these bits of information dissipated for some reason.

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Mikeal1st

27 days ago

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I used to be able to name the WS champions from 72 to 95… then suddenly not. I’ve got 75-79, 81, 88 and 90, but that’s about it. I blame my kids. They were born in 92 and 95… I think.

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Eric_in_Portland

27 days ago

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this is why GMs should be 12 years old…maybe even younger. I could evaluate all the players on all rosters. Now I don’t know who these guys are. Last night’s Cheaters pitcher was H. Brown. I thought “Hillbilly Brown”? Saw he’s from Detroit so, in my head, he became “Hip-Hop Brown”. That’s just to illustrate I don’t know as much as I did in the early 60s.

I can do World Series from 1950 on. Lots of Skanks. Giants in ’54, Bums, Skanks, Braves, Dodgers (as opposed to Bums), Pirates, Skanks, Dodgers, Cards…well, I might miss one here or there. Anyway, into the 80s I’ve got Phils, Dodgers, Cards…in some order. Tigers, Royals, Mets, then ??? Cards? Couldn’t tell you in the 90s.

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ScoopleDoople

27 days ago

Reply to Mikeal1st

And I used to be able to remember where I put my keys 10 minutes ago. Nothing to blame but too many trips around the sun. 😀

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red floyd

27 days ago

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72-74 is easy. Just one team to remember: Choakland

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Eric_in_Portland

27 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

I’ve looked at the numbers and promptly forgot them.

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WallyChuckChili

27 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

27 is Guerrero and 17 is Erstad.

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GhostGuest

27 days ago

Reply to WallyChuckChili

For me, number 27 will also be Leon Wagner, the Angels’ first slugging star. From 1961 through 1963 Wagner averaged 33 HRs, 101 RBI, and had a .342 OBP.

He was a 2X starter in the All-Star Game during this time and was the 1962 ASG MVP after hitting two singles, a home run, and making a terrific sliding catch on a ball hit to shallow left field in the fourth inning.

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Marcotor

27 days ago

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Daddy Wags! I saw him play, but don’t remember it since I was barely old enough to walk. But in the early 70’s he would join some other Angel players and eat at our restaurant at the Lido landing where they caught a boat out of Davey’s Locker a couple of times a year. What a great guy, who didn’t have to take time to entertain a fascinated 10 year old, but did.

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red floyd

27 days ago

Reply to WallyChuckChili

17 is Alex Johnson

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

there was a lot of change this off season. I know Ward is 3, Canning is 47, Rendon is 6 but really don’t know many more.

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John Henry Weitzel

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Drury is 23, Detmers is 48, Sandoval is 43, Renfroe is 12. I know those, but am struggling to remember more.

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LanaBanana

27 days ago

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Ward and Rendon, those are the two besides Trout and Shohei I knew, too.

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Twebur

27 days ago

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~~Rendon is 6~~….. it’s E5

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PedroCerrano

27 days ago

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Silly Howie Kendrick is 47

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red floyd

27 days ago

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Renfroe is 12

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

27 days ago

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Brian Downing. #5.

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red floyd

27 days ago

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Bobby Grich 4
Reggie 44

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RexFregosi

27 days ago

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Ryan 30

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GhostGuest

27 days ago

The Foundation Building Materials’ keystone of the game for the Angels tonight is “Kawasaki Lets the Good Times Roll” by the Cunningham & Walsh Advertising Agency.

Because A, Ohtani is pitching tonight. And because B, Ohtani is pitching tonight.

Beating the Astros (who have been our daddy for how many years now?) last night felt deeply satisfying. It felt like the Angels were actually on equal footing with the Astros and finishing the season looking up at them in the standings is not a foregone conclusion. So Shohei, our Japanese sensation, win one tonight for us and let the good times continue to roll.

https://youtu.be/NbgkkvIvswU

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Twebur

27 days ago

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Trout will need to get it going if they’re going to win the motor cycle race.

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WallyChuckChili

27 days ago

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Trout and Renfroe?

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Twebur

27 days ago

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Wallach.

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DowningDude

27 days ago

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GhostGuest

27 days ago

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Why is the guy in the first scene wearing a Gryffindor scarf?

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Twebur

27 days ago

But with or without a subscription, you can watch select, curated Minor League games featuring MLB’s top prospects FREE here on MLB.com and on the MLB Pipeline homepage all season long. The MiLB Game of the Day will be available on MLB.TV as well.

Saturday, 7:05 p.m. ET — Rocket City (LAA) vs. Biloxi (MIL)
Catch a glimpse of a jaw-dropping youth movement two rungs away from The Show. Fan-favorite Angels prospect Edgar Quero (MLB No. 100), who turned 20 in April, has handled his first taste of Double-A with aplomb. He leads the Trash Pandas against the Brewers-affiliated Shuckers

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

27 days ago

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Solid Saturday pre-game game fun. Undercard action baby!

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

I just don’t know what to say about the team. In terms of my expectations, the starting pitching is worse, the relief pitching is better (except for Loup/Tepera), the fielding is atrocious (we give up the most unearned runs), and the RISP hitting is also pretty terrible. The team does not look well-coached in terms of fundamentals and failing to discover the most obvious things (such as pitch tipping). We do well again bad teams and poorly against good ones. With more good ones of the schedule, our success against them will be a good tell.

Still, we get wins like last night, and the two other recent late game comebacks that keep me coming back for more.

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rosstrade

27 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

I agree with you.

But, at 20 – 16, and with some of the positive signs, I am happy with this.

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Reply to rosstrade

I’ll take it, too.

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Whoa. Could it be? Are you Mr. Blue Sky on this May Gray Day ML?

Things are looking up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQUlA8Hcv4s

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

I’m an optimistic pessimist👍 Being a fan since ‘61 does it to you.

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John Henry Weitzel

27 days ago

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Twebur

27 days ago

Reply to John Henry Weitzel

Kamala loves a Venn diagram. So do I when it says we are getting close to a seat at the cool kids table…..Only if, the 4th and 5th inning didn’t need to exist. Or 2 outs were a positive thing.

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RexFregosi

27 days ago

Reply to John Henry Weitzel

So maybe the Phillies should have asked for pitching help from us?

Would you trade Marsh for Suarez?

Not so fast, we need pitching too, more than another OF…..

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GhostGuest

27 days ago

Reply to John Henry Weitzel

What metric is being used to determine top, middle, and bottom? If it is ERA, then unfortunately this diagram is inaccurate.

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John Henry Weitzel

27 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

yeah it is by ERA

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smithy610

27 days ago

I hope vintage Ohtani is the one that pitches tonight, not the Ohtani of his last two starts. Let’s get that series win against these bangers!

Sandy has an interesting take in the win last night:

“It was huge,” Sandoval said. “The last two or three years I don’t think we pull that one out, to be honest. It was a big one for us today. I love the way they played out there, flying around on defense. Renfroe making a hell of a play on Alvarez double attempt and the boys got run after run. The (Astros) score and they weren’t afraid to come back and score for us. It was awesome. They had my back the whole game. It was a good team win.”

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

27 days ago

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Sandy, showing an obvious lack of transparency and realness along with a love of mediocre.

So THIS is OK with YOU huh Sandy?

If Ohtani is good we will still see a tight game. Valdez is so frustrating. Even when he’s a little off all you get is a LOBster fest. I would say that, if the Angels execute, they can win, but Nevin is the manager, so I have been told this is impossible because Nevin actively prevents players from doing the right thing. Which is still better than when Soth was actively snaping pitchers elbows… or when Arte was stuffing drugs into Skaggs and stealing MiLB scrubs food.

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TrojanBoiler

27 days ago

If I recall correctly, wasn’t Yarbrough the pitcher that was getting mouthy with Neto because Neto was upset about getting plunked for the 7th game in a row?

Not saying he deserved to get his head shattered by a line drive, but you have to appreciate the karma at play here.

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cookmeister

27 days ago

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naw. that’s scummy to even bring up. He hit him with a 70 mph curveball. Who cares if they were jawing. Never want to see someone get hit with a liner like that

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TrojanBoiler

27 days ago

Reply to cookmeister

Of course, that’s why I said “not saying he deserved to get his head shattered by a line drive”

You don’t wish that on anyone, even if they are an a-hole.

But you’re right, it’s a bad look that I even brought it up. I was just pointing out the coincidence that this is the guy a few weeks ago that was upset about someone else being frustrated that they were hit by a baseball. Karma was probably a bad word to use.

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TrojanBoiler

27 days ago

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And “appreciate”

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cookmeister

27 days ago

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kudos

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

27 days ago

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I don’t mind what Yarborough did with Neto. He had a point. Why’s Neto getting cross with him, it’s not like he or his team personally hit Neto 7 times. Shit happens Zach.

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TrojanBoiler

27 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

I disagree. Neto did what exactly? Tossed his bat in frustration and then walked calmly to first base?

Yarbrough was the one jawing and making a scene like someone with unhinged emotions.

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cookmeister

27 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Do we even know what Yarborough said either though? Neto was frustrated, threw the bat, walked to first, stared at him etc. Nothing wrong with that. But I also have no issue with Yarborough telling Neto “TF is your issue, you think I’m trying to hit you with a curveball?” Yarborough might not have even known that Neto had been hit so much, so Neto’s reaction might have confused him/fired him up

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

27 days ago

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When dinosaurs roamed the earth and I could throw a baseball fairly hard without crying afterward I’d hit some batters. When I did, if they stared at me I would always star back. If they kept staring I’d say something along the lines of “what?”. It’s kind of expected. Batter gets hit, stares at pitcher as he heads to 1st, pitcher stares back, batter breaks off and looks to 1B. If you didn’t do that you’d look rattled and wussy. Can’t have that. If batter keeps eyeballing you, or says something, say something so everyone knows you aren’t a scaredy cat. Announce presence with authority.

It’s silly. But it also kind of matters. Gotta have confidence to pitch, so these stupid mind games matter a little.

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Twebur

27 days ago

https://twitter.com/WillSammon/status/1655920754330943491?s=20
https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1655799172371709954?s=20

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Gary Sanchez is a known a-hole who was hitting about a buck sixty in AAA. There’s a miniscule chance he could be productive again, but he’s no real answer.

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Twebur

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Might have been worth a try in the short term, better than Chris Okey is my guess. This team has never shied away from scrap heaping an undesirable.

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

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F it. Just bring Drew Butera out of retirement. hes sitting down there in the bullpen watching every Angel game.

I think He would do better in a pinch with the glove than half of these so called catchers in the league right now.

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Reply to Twebur

In a Jonathan Villar kind of way?

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RexFregosi

27 days ago

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Adell to LF, Ward to Catcher.

While Sanchez isn’t an answer, that’s not the problem- we have no one else – absolutely out of MLB depth at C.

Okey wasn’t in the organization two weeks ago- so no Sanchez, it means trolling for AAA-level catchers.

I don’t bemoan catching depth completely- there are 29 other teams that would love a left-handed hitting catcher who is hitting > .300.

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halofansince1978

27 days ago

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You gotta know that somewhere Ward is taking practice reps behind the plate.

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Twebur

27 days ago

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A maze of tunnels, corridors, and elevators concealed beneath the Big A. It’s where Arte orchestrates his most evil of plans. Secret batting cages and pitching mounds. Surgeries are performed there, TJ’s by Dr Nick, even has a newly formed sleep center. It’s where the sausage and hotdogs are made and where Arte, John Carpino and Molly Jolly have their real desks

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RexFregosi

27 days ago

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The place where we take catchers and convert them immediately to infielders, then to outfielders and finally back to catchers.

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Twebur

28 days ago

A’ss news. Personally I’m shocked that there is more uncertainty.

https://sports.yahoo.com/as-reportedly-exploring-backup-plans-for-las-vegas-stadium-site-143947338.html

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

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I’m looking forward to going to a game in Vegas.

I don’t go a ton but I like to catch a fight out there every year or so. Thing is I don’t drink or really love losing my money at the tables. If I could go to a ballgame on the Friday night before the fight, or wait out traffic Sunday afternoon at a game I’d love it.

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Twebur

27 days ago

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Same. Thought that would be a multiple Angel centric trip to LV few times a year. Stupid me even envisioned a “spur of the moment” late September trip to watch us clinch a playoff spot. 😂 Hilarious, I know. In reality it will be a game that Suarez is caught by Chris Okey and lose 7-3 after a 5 run 5th inning meltdown aided by bad defense. trAdition

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to Twebur

So you dont think Chris will be Okey?

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steelgolf

27 days ago

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He won’t even be dokey.

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DowningDude

27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

in a shootout at his corral, he will kick ass.

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LanaBanana

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I miss our All Star break Vegas trips.

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BushLeague

28 days ago

Great win last night! I love the length of our lineup. Breath of fresh air compared to last season. For all the worry in Spring Training, Esteves has been lights out so far this season. Glad they’re finally trusting Moore also. I was getting really frustrated when they were giving him such a short leash earlier in the season.

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smithy610

27 days ago

Reply to BushLeague

Still early in the season, but it would be great if Moore/Estevez develops into our end-of-game shutout combo. We haven’t had that strong bullpen backend since Smith/Street, I believe.

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GhostGuest

27 days ago

Reply to BushLeague

I was frustrated when they optioned Wantz down to Triple-A. If you want to win ballgames, you don’t do that.

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smithy610

27 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

He’s the only one with options. I know, I know, there’s always DFA’ing Tepera and/or Loup. But with early in the season, I’m with Perry giving Tepera and Loup some leash, albeit a short one, to see if they can turn it around before making a final decision.

As much as Wantz’s ERA stats look good, he can and should definitely work on his inherited runners scoring %, as it is highly atrocious.