Angels Lose After Being Blinded by Yellow Sox

After an off day yesterday, the Angels are now in Boston to face the Red Sox. Problem was, the Red Sox weren’t home. Instead, these UCLA wannabees were there, in their bright yellow and blue uniform. Some sort of Yellow Sox.

Perhaps it was all an elaborate ruse to confuse their opponent, a distraction, if you will. It seemed to have worked, as the Angels infield had a hard time defending. Patrick Sandoval was not having fun, lasting only 3 and 2 thirds, allowed 2 runs, both unearned.

He did K 6 though
Data weee!

This meant it was a bullpen game for the Halos, not good. Not good at all. The offense would have to come through to get out of this with a win. Yeah, they couldn’t. Here is how they lost.

Highlighted Recap

The Angels got the scoring started with a 2 run double by Renfroe in the first.

Thiiiiiiiiis close to being 3-0

In the bottom half, Ward saved a run, robbing a hit from the Yellow Sox.

No way Adell makes that play

The shutout ended in the 4th when Sandy allowed a hit after a Rengifo misplay.

2-1 Angels

Then, Rendon tied the game, by making a throwing error.

2-2 game

But, Rengifo did make a good throw to end the inning. Only after Sandy was pulled.

That could have been worse

In the 5th, the Yellow Sox took the lead with a solo home run.

3-2 Yellow Sox

Anthony Rendon gave the yellow Sox another run by throwing the ball away AGAIN!

4-2 Yellow Sox

And then Loup did Loup things and threw a wild pitch because he is Loup.

Is it Logan’s fault? No, it is Loup who is in the wrong.

Rendon scored an RBI groundout in the 7th to make it 5-3 Yellow Sox.

Yay~

Upcoming

The Angels fall to 7-6 and lose the opening game to the Yellow Sox. 3 more, with a game on Monday too. Yes, a wraparound series.

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GrandpaBaseball
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1 year ago

Glad to see Urshela moved up in the lineup.

2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago

Urshela isn’t a star.

Twebur
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1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

GPB didn’t say he was GG.. 💪  👉 

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Simba
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

LOL good timing – he’s got 5 rbi’s so far today.

2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Simba

Yes, I’m sure he’ll end up with 130 rbi’s this year
 😂  😂 

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago

Grab a bat Neto! And Please hit like that kid IHOP

1 Ward LF
2 Trout CF
3 Ohtani 
4 Rendon 3B
5 Renfroe RF
6 Urshela 1B
7 Drury 2B
8 Neto SS
9 ThaissC

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 year ago

Like the move. Play Neto every day at short and get Fletch consistent at bats in Salt Lake. He’s got some issue that won’t get solved playing once or twice a week. Cut Lamb when Walsh returns and send Renjifo back to AAA when/if Fletcher regains his form.

Vote for Pedro (GM)!

Twebur
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1 year ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

PTP – Pedro The Plytapus assistant GM

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Exactly.

HaloLew
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Adell’s like, “Uh, hello?”

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  HaloLew

Where would you play Adell? Defense is a big issue with the team right now too. We need a Shortstop, not another Outfielder.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  HaloLew

Can he pitch? cuz there’s no place to play him

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HaloLew

Adell has typically been good in AAA. Underneath the lofty stats he still is striking out a lot. His issue is pitch recognition leading to swing and miss. MLB guys have exploited that with him.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

You are exactly correct. He will never get his K % below 30.

angelsown3417
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Neto getting called up from AA! Let’s go!

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  angelsown3417

I was just about to post this! I feel like that was very unexpected.

angelsown3417
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Dude has been killing it. Excited up see how he does!

Jimmuscomp
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1 year ago
Reply to  angelsown3417

Very cool.

So…who plays 2nd now?

Urshela?

Drury on bench with Rengifo once Walsh returns?

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

I would love to see Gio at 3rd, Neto at short and Fletch at 2nd. Sit Rendon.

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Fletch sent to AAA to get things figured out. It’s been 3 years since he was good. Maybe his lack of power finally got pitchers to just throw him strikes and let him get himself out.

Rendon is starting to heat up and is 3 years from MVP quality production. He gets more leash than10 games.

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

I am aware that it is unlikely that Rendon will sit as much as I would like it to be so.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

The problem with Fletch is opposing pitchers don’t even have to throw strikes for him to get himself out

GrandpaBaseball
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Sad but true, but he is the best fielder of the bunch.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

Precisely.

Rendon has appeared in 7 games thus far. He’s healthy. He should play. Period.

Excited re: Neto….

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

You can watch Fletch play second every day at AAA if you like.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yep. Just saw he was sent down.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Urshella to 2nd, Rendon is not sitting in the first 2-weeks of the year. Fletcher and Renfifo are relegated.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I am sure you are right. I have become very anti-Rendon (after being a very happy guy when he signed). Rendon has made me anti-Rendon and he has the ability to change that. I was a huge fan of his. Hopefully he starts performing at 3B like he is being paid. Only time will tell.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

For me, it is going to take 500-600 ABs in a season before I flush Rendon down the commode. He was the best college bat coming out of Rice abd his years with the Nats were good but I understand why you’re not a fan, I get it.

Oski_Bear
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

What concerns me about him seems more personal. Did you see how he trotted off the field after only the 2nd out yesterday?

Confrontation with A’s fans…suspended…looking lost, forgetting how many outs…2 wild throws in a row.

Even the home opener – we were announcing players one by one and everyone clapped or waived. He stood there with arms crossed the whole time. The only one.

Just seems something is going on in his head. I hope he works it out/snaps out of it.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Oski_Bear

Those tosses to first were half-assed. Bad. I have no support I can throw out there for that. But getting in a beef after the game with a fan, don’t care. Fan deserved it. Ya can’t mouth off 5-feet away and run.
What I need from Anthony, 38 doubles, 26 homers and hit .280+ while manning the 3rd base position.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He had an arm injury and I believe he never fully recovered from it. His throwing is compromised.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Yes, I totally agree although I do believe in Drury to be decent, and better than Rengifo.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

Too bad Rengifo’s still on the Major League roster

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

But, but, last year happened.

Free the Plumber 😀

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

Drury at second and Gio at first today.

That seems… Dumb

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Anyone not named Rengifo works for me…until they suck and we coldly turn our collective scorn upon them.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  angelsown3417

YESSIR! Injects some speed as well. The pitchers deserve a competent shortstop and Angels had no one on the roster to fit that mold. Also, getting youth into this lineup was necessary. He may struggle a bit with the average but everything else is a positive.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He had 2 SB in one at bat a couple of days ago for RC . I have no idea his foot speed but he’s got to be faster than everyone on the roster not named Troutani or Phillips

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yeah, Zach is no burner by any means produces more speed than the middle of the lineup on down.

nishiogawakun
Super Member
1 year ago

I think we turn it around this year and in 4 years we’re much higher on Rendon than Pooholes at the end of his contract.

MarineLayer
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1 year ago
Reply to  nishiogawakun

I will take the other side of that prediction.

DowningDude
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1 year ago

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2002heaven
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1 year ago

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I think CTPG knows why me and the stormtroopers are here!
💩 💩 😠 ……..where’s the robot?

Last edited 1 year ago by 2002heaven
BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago

Poorly played baseball game all around.

3 errors by the infield.

1 for 14 RISP

Excessively high pitch count by the starter during the pivotal early innings.

Flush it and move on.

With the infield defensve being so shaky, I would expect to see Fletcher and Gio in the lineup tomorrow.

Last edited 1 year ago by BannedInLA
fyasko51
Trusted Member
1 year ago

If Rendon continues to play the way that he is, does Perry cut him? Can’t really trade him. I’m ok if he doesnt wear an Angel uniform again if things continue to go as they are.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  fyasko51

Ha Ha Ha. 3 for 4 with a walk and an RBI grounfdout and Perry’s going to cut him.? You’re delusional.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Agree he won’t be cut. But his errors cost the Angels this game. His overall performance (singles included) was nothing to write home about.

Oski_Bear
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

His head is the issue. See him trot off the field after two outs yesterday?

losangel
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  fyasko51

He did make an awesome play to save runs early in the game though and his bat is heating up.

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago

Loup did great!

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

And the Doyers sucked tonight….we have that too.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Another suck night for Syndergaard.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Yeah, that was about the only good thing in MLB yesterday …

red floyd
Legend
1 year ago

Dudes, you can’t give away four, repeat FOUR, unearned runs and hope to win.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

Maybe I’m getting little old fir this shit . but come on guys .Time to. man up. https://giphy.com/gifs/starwars-star-wars-yoda-26FmQ6EOvLxp6cWyY

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

They listened. They are DO’ing the SUCK and doing it well. 😀

Last edited 1 year ago by DowningDude
YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
1 year ago

No way nevin makes it all season.

Last edited 1 year ago by YOUknowulovetheIE
FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

I would bet you a Grant on that.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

He shouldn’t, but he probably will.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 year ago

And yet we’re on pace to win 87

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

This on pace thing is never a good idea. It never works out. I know you know that.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

😂 😂

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I figure if we’re over .500 and not playing all that well it means either of two things.

  1. We’re gonna do *really* well when we click
  2. We’re not gonna play well this season
Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

I don’t think we can make too much of anything out of 13 games. I think we need to get to at least June before we draw any conclusions.

Tonight they looked awful. After no baseball last night, I was looking forward to the game. It was a bad game. Hopefully they figure it out for tomorrow.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I beg to differ about the 13 games being insignificant for analysis.

This much I can tell you : the Tampa Bay Rays have had ZERO games like the one we had last night. They have not selfishly refused to lay down a bunt in a clear bunting situation only to GIDP and also commit 3 errors in that same game.

Good teams do good things and bad teams do bad things… Let me soften that a bit. I don’t think we are “bad,” but I do think we are poorly managed and show a clear lack of leadership. This falls on Nevin, and to a good extent also Perry since he was the one who fired Maddon and brought in his puppet/yesman Nevin.

Good managers don’t allow that to happen ; if Rengifo blows off the bunt call he’d say F you and call it again, and then again with 2 strikes. That is what I would have done to Rengifo’s selfish ass.

You can’t win on a high level unless everyone is pulling in the same direction. You can’t have “ME first” guys on your team. Rengifo is clearly one of those “Me First” guys and that leads to losing.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Uh Oh, here we go again with BLAYME DUH FIELD MANAJIR
We played the A’s and the Nats who we’ll both be bad teams in 2023.
WUNCE AGAYNE…….FIELD MAMAJIRS DON’T MATTER EXCEPT TO THE GUY ABOVE WHO SIGNS EVERYBUDDY’S PAYEROLL CHEKK. Pay attention to Moneyball and why Art Howe was on a one yr deal every year.
After all he hired Tony LaRussa to undermine his own GM at the time and also anuther old guy born after WW2. Also I wonder if Tiger’s and Pirate’s fans care about play by play announcers?
💪 💪 💪 💪 ……coming soon my Austin Riley stats update.

Last edited 1 year ago by 2002heaven
JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Go worship at your Billy Beane/Paul De Podesta shrine loser.

Also, FYI, Beane has never won shit in the playoffs. Never even made it to the Series, let alone won it..

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

2002 was 100 yrs ago
Also Italy isn’t the Roman Empire anymore.
 💪  💪  💪  💪 

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Then why do you have it as your username ??
😂 😂

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Ohtani mashing Seattle makes their pitchers grab at empty bags:
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Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

On pace to be a bunch of losers. There is no reason for this shit. Time to sack up and play like champions

DowningDude
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1 year ago

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BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Two chics at the same time, man.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Not sure it’s worth the time to extrapolate, kind of like passing gas

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

….and miss the playoffs – and these losses to shitty teams will likely be the difference.

2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago

Are the RS a shitty team? They’ll be better than the A’s and Nats.
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Brent
Super Member
1 year ago

Fuck (April) Rendon. All my homies hate Rendon.

aces666high
Trusted Member
1 year ago

According to Langston, there’s been 5 games already where a hit, halfway decent relief pitching or high school level defense would have resulted in a W. 5 games thrown away, sometimes literally in the first 13. Thank god these early games don’t count in the standings amirite?!?

Seriously, this team feels just like the past few angels teams. Can’t get a clutch hit, can’t get that 3rd out, self imploding. How do you hit the number 8&9 batters. Yes that coward almost got out of it but he should have never been in that situation. I’m sure they’ll right the ship at some point and reel off a long run streak but I think it’ll be surrounded by a sea of mediocre, barely above or below .500 baseball.

Glad I was working and completely forgot this was an east coast game. On to tomorrow, let’s see how they respond. Or don’t.

Troutstrikeout
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  aces666high

The team can’t get out of its own way, barely hovering around .500 when should be good chunk over. In first 13 games already blown a 6-0 lead, wasted an all time Ohtani outing on opening day, blew 4-1 home lead to the absolute dog shit nationals, and as Langston said just some mediocre level defense or bullpen pitching from winning some other very winnable games. Schedule hasn’t really been hard yet, Oakland and nationals 2 of worst 3 teams in league, mediocre Red Sox, mariners struggling to start. Schedule gonna get way harder end of April and May plus got Yankees coming up. Frustrating bc I think the team is pretty damn talented for once yet they always find novel ways to lose just like years past. Every year random teams with lesser players make a leap like Dbacks this year, yet we always just the same crap with 1 above .500 like a huge accomplishment. With the same stupid mistakes I see every year, losing very winnable games, and the schedule about to ramp up I see just another year where the team is out of it by end of May. Hope I’m wrong but ain’t seen anything to think otherwise.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Troutstrikeout

Re the Angels:

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

Or you can quote the Who:

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

It’s always the same for this team.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

And it took you until just now to figure this out?

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago

Certainly, we all were looking forward to a win, but we can still take the series, unless I missed 2 games today. Sandoval seems to have had problems with either the umpire or control.

The infield defense today pretty much had a melt down and yes, it’s time to work on tightening it up. Sure, Neto should be the answer and Walsh returns along with Fletch returning to second. We out hit the Yellred Sox, showing that you can’t out offense a bad defense.

Rendon was a bad signing, and he doesn’t have enough pride to so us wrong. His laid back demeanor is hard to watch, his at bats even worse than the attitude and now his fielding or at least his throwing is in question. Jeez

The team is falling apart and going to Hell, yep, I’m sure they are aware that the only way to prevent it is to win the next 3 in Boston  😲  🙃  😯 

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

10 year anniversary of Boston bombing and lots of other things happening in Boston this weekend which will motivate them. I’m thinking 2-2 if lucky.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago

No, Sandoval did not have problems. He was spotting his fastball really well and his slider was working too. The defense let him down — big time.

And to top it off, the offense went to sleep after the 1st inning. If we had added on to that 2-0 that would have surely changed things …

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Lots of LOB-sters tonight in Bahhhstan

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

1 for 14 RISP + 3 erros. What else is there to say.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

That about sums it up. Angels had 11-hits but unfortunately nothing was hit hard for extra bases. Not swinging the bat that well.

I like O’Hoppe’s at bats, takes good cuts. But not so much right now with Rendon, Lamb, Drury, Rengifo need to start making hard contact and get on base. Nevin is really hoping Drury gets on a roll like he did with Cincy last year. Still like the chances this year.

Last edited 1 year ago by FungoAle
BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Concur on all of that and as I mentioned elsewhere, Ward-Trout-Ohtani have gone cold over the past 4 games.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Very true. With those 3-guys not hitting, hard to mask the bottom half of the lineup who have been cold all year outside of the catcher. Things only get better.

It would be nice if the team had some top flight speed as speed never slumps. Can help pressure the opposition into mistakes .Perry signed slow footed players outside of Phillips but we know he won’t hit.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Yep. Obviously the days of Trout and Ohtani stealing bases are over, but you’re correct, flexing speed on the base paths distracts the opponent, makes them throw more fastballs, etc.

Last edited 1 year ago by BannedInLA
2002heaven
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

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GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

3.1 innings with 3 walks is spot on? Yes the errors hurt, but the hits and walks hurt too.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago

I don’t think I used the term “spot on,” but I did say that he “spotted” his fastball well, which he did.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

I’m glad you finally came around to my position on Rendon. At this point, we’d better better off with him on the DL, Drury at 3B. The problem with that is that Minasian didn’t backfill SS, so the only move left there is Neto, which is a risky one. NY is suffering with Volpe at SS, the same with Colorado and Tovar. So we’re going to see a lot of Rengifo and his terrible fielding, and Fletch with his anemic bat when Rendon hits the IL.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Agree about Drury. I would have no problem if Anthony came down with an “injury” and Drury became the everyday 3B.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

If Rendon doesn’t turn things around fast I think there is an argument that his contract is the worst in Angels history. Since 2020 he has 147 total hits and 20 HR. That is historic bad considering what he is earning. And he’s not getting any younger.

Last edited 1 year ago by Fansince1971
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Fansince1971

The contract could be one of the worst in MLB history. I’m thinking Chris Davis bad unless something significant changes in his performance.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

Really? offensively he went 3 for 4 with a walk and an rbi ground out and you want to lament about his offense? Are we that fucken (2021) stupid ?

Now if you want to complain about his ole throws that miss the mark I totally get that. But after tonights performance, complaining about his offense is just whiny bitching time.

JJ suggested reading the Ken Caminiti “Playing through the Pain” book Which I did in my slow non Emily Woodhead reading style. One of the common denominators was the fact that despite the gold glove abilities al ot of these high priced mortal third basemen brain cramp on their throws to third base until they get a first baseman that they trust . In the case of Caminiti it was Jeff Bagwell and Wally Joyner.

Lamb is not the answer. We all know it. let’s hope that Walsh’s recent exit from the looney bin will result in his swift return to picking thrown balls in the dirt in Anaheim.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ummmm Rendon is hitting .176 with no doubles, triples or HRs. His OPS is .536. So his offense has been awful.

And his singles and RBI groundout do not make up for 2 critical errors that lost the game.

Hey he had his hat on straight and his jersey was clean! So what is everyone complaining about?!

Look – Rendon is not solely to blame. Trout is cold, Ohtani looks fairly lost at the plate, Renfroe had 6 LOBsters himself. So lots of blame to go around. But that Rendon contract has, thus far, been historically awful.

Last edited 1 year ago by Fansince1971
BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

He’s batting .286 with 6 walks and 2 srike outs. However, he’s not slugging at all (yet). All singles.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Dude you need to go back and recalibrate your abacus. Because your “Ummmm” numbers are all wrong. I wouldn’t want you to talk through a paper asshole there. His numbers are currently at .286/.433/.286 for an OPS .719.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I think he was quoting Rendon’s numbers PRE last night’s game, and of course those three hits clearly changed them…

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Troutstrikeout
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Oh well now that he’s redeemed himself with that .286 SLG% everything is ok. Phew. And can excuse his shit throws by surmising he doesn’t trust his 1B, totally on board with that, we just don’t have Bagwell at 1B. Problem solved. Now his 20 HR 95 RBI .777 OPS over 4 years is definitely worth the $245 mil! I can’t wait to see what the next 3.5 years brings as he hits his mid 30s.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Troutstrikeout

Strawman dude.

No one is claiming, as far as I can see, that he’s performing commensurate to his contract, of course he hasn’t.

But it’s also true that he’s healthy and his numbers were solid during his last healthy season. He’s getting on base, not striking out, etc. There are some valid reasons to believe that his stock will climb again. This season.

Troutstrikeout
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Commensurate to his contract, he hasn’t been worth 1/5th of his contract so far. Sure let’s see if he bounces back this year; it’s year 4 of 7, his stock would have to skyrocket to validate even half of the 245 mil. Maybe he does bounce back to tune of .270 19 hr 787 ops, for year 4, that’s what I expect from him. Has set standard so low everyone would cheer that he wasn’t a total waste for one year

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

The point I made that started this sub-thread was that if Rendon continues at the pace of the first half of his contract, it could be the worse in Angels history. Basically, it would be $245 million for 40 HR and 190 RBI and a sub-.700 OPS from 3B. It would be hard to argue that if this happens it would be the worst free agent signing in Angel and maybe MLB history.

Hopefully he turns things around. But if not, I will stick with the thought process that he would at least be top-3 all-time worst values for the money.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

His three singles last night definitely improved his numbers for this season but that is not really the point. The issue is his production in the first half of his $245 million contract.

Hopefully he turns it around. I would be thrilled if he did. I just dont believe he will. We will see.

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Reply to  Cowboy26

its not just one game, it’s his entire tenure since signing the $245m contract. If that’s not enough, consider what he does in his first series back after missing most of 2022: he gets in an altercation with a fan over something stupid and gets suspended.

lastly remember that his contact has contributed to the payroll constraints that have plagued the franchise.

Hindsight being 20/20 wouldn’t it have been great if Arte used that $245m and extended Ohtani? It’s water under the bridge now, but there is no doubt Rendon has been a massive disappointment and his contact will have lasting repercussions on the franchise in future seasons.

Troutstrikeout
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

To think I thought the Mo Vaughn contract was bad bc he only hit .282 37 117 .865 ops instead of .320 40-45 117 like in Boston lol. I remember at the time thinking he sucked

Troutstrikeout
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

.280 35 117 we didn’t sign up for this! Lmao. Get Mo Vaughn and his overpaid 6 year $80 million contract outta here! Now Brandon Nimmo and his .800 ops .274 15 bombs gets $162 mil

Troutstrikeout
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1 year ago
Reply to  Troutstrikeout

Looking back why’d everyone think Mo Vaughn was trash? 6 years 80 mil, 148 mil adjusted for inflation, and he proceeded to lead the team in every major offensive category hr rbi avg ops, and that was after almost breaking his ankle game 1 bc we had no dugout railing at the time so he fell in tryin to catch that foul ball. But he kept playing!!! In those periwinkle pajama jerseys! Which always looked weird especially on him. Missed minimal time lead team in every category. And the next year he goes 37 117 and me and every angels fan was like he sucks lol, not what he was with Nomar. If only Rendon was half that for $245 million

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Troutstrikeout

What offensive categories did he lead team in 2001?

Troutstrikeout
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

There’s that Mo Vaughn double standard again. For 6 years 80 mil he leads team in every major offensive category in 99 after severely spraining his ankle and goes 36 117 in 2000. In his 2 years of playing he did more than Rendon will do in 7 for $245 mil! No, it’s even worse, after 4 years Rendons cumulative totals of 20 HR 95 RBI isn’t even what Mo Vaughn did in 1 year lmao. How much are we paying Rendon per HR, $12 mil per HR so far?? Ok only halfway through contract so if we extrapolate out at his current torrid 3.5 year pace it’ll end up being $6 mil per HR!!!! Lmao! And we paying $2.57 million per RBI, but by the end of the contract I’m sure he might get to 245 rbi so 1 mil per rbi, a steal. And Vaughn was a tradeable asset got decent starter for him that helped us win WS. Can we get such a starting pitcher for Rendon? What’s with the Rendon hardon?

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Troutstrikeout

I always called him “Moove-On”

Troutstrikeout
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1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

No one liked Mo Vaughn but he was a HOF signing next to Rendon

JackFrost
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

And yet people like gitch will come to his defense using all the tools in their bags and tricks in the book including sarcasm, hyberbole, mockery, etc… He will attempt to satirize those who level serious and legitimate critiques at Rendon by saying what a wonderful guy he is, how suave he is, how the ladies love him, how he makes awesome wooden statues, or how he would be great to go off on a journey to Columbia with in search of a giant lost emerald etc… All of this is meant to distract you from the facts. The fact is mainly that RENDON SUCKS.

And he is horribly overpaid. On top of that he is an incredibly irresponsible teammate who grabs opposing fans by their jackets in a menacing fashion… So no, we should not minimize or deny the underachievement of the man known as “Rendone.”

DowningDude
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1 year ago
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Twebur
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1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

It’s over donkey…..see you next year 😀 

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BannedInLA
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I hear you, but I’m trying to latch onto the positive. He’s presumable healthy, he’s actually getting on base (.286 / .433) and we’re only 13 games in – of which he’s played in 7.

It’s safe to assume that there won’t be any more interactions with fans and unless he’s developed a case of the yips, I would expect that 2 error games will be few and far between.

I think we have larger concerns and it’s worth noting that Ward, Trout and Shohei have all gone silent over the past 4 games.

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2002heaven
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1 year ago
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JackFrost
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1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Go buy yourself a Rays hat and root for the Tampa Bay Gnats.

You can keep it in the place you keep your Mariners hat and your signed Jerry DiPoto picture.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Troutstrikeout
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

It’s already the worst contract in Angels history. He’s already 4 years into a 7 year $230 mil deal and honestly the only thing I remember from him is confronting a fan for the most lame basic trash talk, literally C- trash talk. You’re a bitch, you suck are as basic and boring as shit talk gets. $230 mil to suck, be injured and take a swing at a fan for barely mediocre trash talk.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Troutstrikeout

You forgot the Mariners rumble in a cast last year? 😀 Highlight of Random’s career in a Halo uni. AH, he also hit a lefty homer last year that made the baseball gods strike a plague upon our team and the fanbase. What else explains us hating on each other?

Troutstrikeout
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1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

That’s right I forgot the lefty homer when things were briefly good and we had hope just before the 14 game losing streak! Ok I admit the lefty HR was pretty cool, almost worth $245 mil.

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  Troutstrikeout

Didn’t he hit it off an outfielder?

Troutstrikeout
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

He did and I think it was against the rays too. We were blowing them out were like 10 over riding high. Afterwards they ended up winning 90, then start this year 13-1; we go onto lose 14 straight and are happy to be 7-6 so far.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Oh that’s right … so it doesn’t count as a home run then.

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  Troutstrikeout

Yes – I agree. I mean Wells was awful as was Hamilton but the money in those deals was way less as was the time. Pujols deal looks stellar compared to Rendon’s contract- I mean at least Pujols had some decent years.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Are you insane? Grandpa had one year ( his first) were he had an OPS over .800. ONE YEAR OUT OF 10 . Hes a first baseman and DH for Gods sake. Thats embarrassing.

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Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Compared to Rendon that contract was a good one. Don’t get me wrong- it was a terrible contract. Just by comparison.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Based upon what analysis? Sorry but your math skills suck

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Pujols hit 210+ HR with the angels and knocked in over 850 runs. Tony has a long war to go to come close to that. Again – not a fan of Pujols or his deal, but Tony by far has been worse. And he is aging rapidly

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

BFD. while Grandpa hit 210 HR the average first baseman and DH hit a hell of lot more over the same period of time and wasn’t making an average of a 24.5 million salary for 10 long years.

BTW, Are you blaming 2 bags for the pandemic in his first year where he had an anemic OPS of .915.? You can certainly denigrate him for the 2 substandard years that followed but he’s had a whopping 22 PAs in 2023 and so far he is progressing offensively every game now with an OBP at .433.

Unfortunately hate is clouding your judgement . Im glad that the people that are running this team are still analytical in their assessment unlike you.

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Tony is 32. That’s when the Pujols contract started. Go back and look what Pujols did in the 3 years before coming to the Halos. I’m not a Pujols fan, but the point is that Tony is at an age where he is not expected to improve.

The Pujols contract was awful. I’m just saying there is a chance Tony’s is worse. First he’s making almost double what Pujols made. Second – if you want to talk about positional suckage – compare what the top 3B-men in the league have done over the last 3+ seasons. You contend Pujols was awful from a 1B analysis; Rendon has been worse from a 3B analysis.

In 2020, Tony was 29 and arguably in his prime. His year 28 season with the Nats was even better. He is now well into his 30s decline and will be 36 when his contract is over. His body has been breaking down. He is now throwing side arm – likely due to shoulder pain. I think there is more of a chance of continued decline than improvement.

Most importantly- I am saying “there is a chance” that Rendon’s contract will be considered worse than Pujols. That will have to be evaluated at the end. I am not saying his contract is worse by today’s evaluation.

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

What has the average 3B-man done since 2020?

My comment was that Rendon’s contract will be historically bad if he continues at the pace since it was signed. Pujols had a nice first season with the Angels just like Rendon din. Then it was all downhill from there. If Rendon continues to decline and/or continues to suffer injuries as we saw in 2021 and 2022, then the contract could be worse than Pujols’ (and that is saying something because Pujols’ contract was awful).

It’s all in the future. But certainly at the price he is being paid he should be performing at or near All-Star levels. He is far from that both offensively and defensively at this point.

Troutstrikeout
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Wells was awful bc he was done and we traded Napoli for him, I was sick the second it went down. If we had Napoli on those early trout teams 2012-2015 when he was crushing it in Boston man

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  Troutstrikeout

No doubt – losing Napoli (and Rivera) AND taking on Wells entire bloated contract was historically bad as well.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

We traded for an untradeable contract AND gave 2 useful players in return.

FungoAle
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Does it really matter that he earns the top spot as being the worst?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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The Red Sox are terrible this year. This loss and the Washington series again illustrate the depths this franchise has fallen even though the two best players in a generation are on roster.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago

This was a series we needed to win 3 of 4 minimum.

Now we might end up losing 3 of 4 …