LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Ohtani Record

It appears there was some positivity concerning the Angels on this MLBTR podcast. It looks like the Angels discussion begins at 13:21. Griffin Canning is back and Andrew Wantz was optioned. Shohei Ohtani passed Nolan Ryan for the most consecutive starts giving up two runs or fewer as an Angel. Robin Ventura could not be reached for comment. Here is the latest silly article about the Angels trading Shohei Ohtani.

Injured List

The Rockies placed German Marquez on the 15 day IL due to forearm discomfort. Corey Seager left the Rangers Tuesday game with left hamstring tightness. They are still evaluating his condition. Matt Manning of the Tigers fractured a metatarsal. Ouch! Been there. Done that. You can’t pitch in a walking boot. Joey Gallo is on the injured list with a right intercostal strain. Tim Anderson has a strained right knee. He’ll miss two to four weeks. Carlos Rodon had a setback in his recovery and probably won’t pitch until May. Yet another guy got hit in the face by a pitch. It was Kyle Farmer this time. JT Brubaker had Tommy John surgery.

Various Roster Moves

The Mariners selected Darren McCaughan and designated Brennan Bernardino for assignment. The Twins brought Edouard Julien up from triple-A St. Paul. They will probably also select Kyle Garlick. The Tampa Bay Rays promoted Taj Bradley and placed Zach Eflin on the injured list due to back tightness. The Braves hired Nick Margevicius on a minor league deal. Ian Happ just got a three year extension from the Cubs. The Giants selected Darin Ruf.

Miscellaneous

New guy Peyton Battenfield struck out Aaron Judge for his first career strikeout. I bet he will remember that forever. Andrew Heaney struck out nine Royals in a row to tie the American League record. A group is seeking to get an MLB expansion team in Salt Lake City. It was pelt each other with hot dogs night in Philadelphia.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Picking up this guy as our 5th string catcher!?! This org is a joke!

Twebur
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11 months ago

Adell, Silseth Win PCL Player of the Week 
https://www.milb.com/news/adell-silseth-win-pcl-player-of-the-week

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Un. Possible. No prospects. worst. ever. Arte. Air mattresses. Assmeat sandwiches.

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Silseth in a hitter park/league, nice job

Cowboy26
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11 months ago

Man the Salt Lake Bees are playing like the ’27 Yankees . Moni-Moniak is not a hack as he went deep twice tonight. Jordyn Adams just homered for thesecond straight nite, The Plumber is hitting more than the pips batting .400 and Jo Adell and Trey Cabbage are competing to see who has a larger OPS- currently Adell leads 1.473 vs 1.432. Even Eli Wallach, our eventual third string catcher is hitting .367.

Last edited 11 months ago by Cowboy26
red floyd
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Wait… Eli Wallach was The Ugly.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Not his offense this year.

Twebur
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Pandas score some runs 13-3 with 13 hits tonight.
Erla 5 innings 2er – Kerry 4 innings 1er
Neto hitting .391 – Quero .300

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Love to see Neto come up. Willing to live with the growing pains.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Love me some Gio though. Hes hitting .341, He actually looks pretty nimble at short and has an underrated arm so I think the future can wait for now.

Twebur
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

We might be better off bringing up Cabbage (you mentioned a while ago) play 1st until Walsh gets back, safe to assume it won’t be any time soon, why would it. May as well get those Cabbage rolls while it’s hot.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I agree. We can definitely use more Cabbage in our diet than Lamb right now.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Say yes to Cabbage.

BannedInLA
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Unless of course Fletcher and/or Rengifo poor performance their way off the 40 man…..

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Both have options left . Ship them to the Great Salt Lake and Free the Plumber!

Last edited 11 months ago by Cowboy26
Twebur
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11 months ago

Remember back in the before times when they’d high 5, jump high 5, bash forearms after a HR…
Now it’s HR Hats, ride in carts, Doyers flash some sort of gang signs, home run jackets, dumbbells, cheeseheads and now beer bongs. What’s next?

https://twitter.com/Orioles/status/1645563679423840257?s=20

RexFregosi
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11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

the best celebration would be complete retro – seriously i’d love to see teammates simply:

shake hands, nod and smile.

no jumps, grabs, high fives, down lows, dances, shuffles, choreography, or any other shows

i’d love to see a team celebrate like that – a plain hand shake and nothing else.

going retro would be so classy and cool

Twebur
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11 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

That. Or nothing. Maybe a little head nod of acknowledgment, walk into the dugout, bum a cigarette, light up and go sit in the corner like Jim Leyland.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Burn an in Game Heater just like Keith Hernandez used to do?

That would be retro.

But the mock beer bong with water home run celebration just looks stupid. I would have more respect if they just used a real beer.

red floyd
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11 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Or, as Vince Lombardi used say, “When you get into the end zone, act like you’ve been there before.” Same thing applies to crossing the plate.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I feel this way about NFL football. If ANY fairly good team managed to all get on the same page, no one’s sensitive areas got crushed, etc and they all just decided to be be dead eyed friggin killers on offense and defense…. score a touchdown, say “yeah” and hand the ball to a zebra, sack a QB and get up not even making eye contact with your pathetic victim, just stare through a trash talking wide out and let your safety level him…. that would actually be more disconcerting than trash talk and celebrations at this point.

Dead silence while a team beats your ass… doesn’t even acknowledge you’re there hardly. That would break some minds.

BannedInLA
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11 months ago

Particulary in this current era of false bravado and obnoxious exuberance.

max
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max
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

that’s not right

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Orioles sure have some good talent. Their time is near.

Cowboy26
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11 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Their GM Mike Elias was the scouting director that built the Trashstros roster. The Orioles have had even a better slew of first round picks than the Stros so look out . Of course, their success will ultimately depend on how well they can trade some of that young talent to plug those last big holes with grizzled veterans.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’m looking forward to those happy birds beating out the Yanksux.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I think that some of this comes from the rest of the “baseball world”. I could swear I saw more stuff like this on Latin American teams a while back, WBC teams, etc. Players must have just decided “hey, that stuff’s fun” so now we do it in the MLB…. which will kill of angry old white guys a little faster, but everything in life is a trade off I guess.

Angels22
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11 months ago

I saw tomorrows games is on Apple TV+, so this means it won’t be on MLB TV right? That is one subscription I don’t have.

RexFregosi
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

yeah AppleTV only

Angels22
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11 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

These tv deals suck. I also hate since I am in TX, I get blackouts when they play the Astros and Rangers.

Last edited 11 months ago by Angels22
Fansince1971
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

Think of all the money you save in State taxes (none in Texas and 10%+ in California) and invest in the no blackout MLB package.

max
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max
11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

Yeah fuck it, not gonna watch

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago

I’m getting kind of bummed out. There are a lot of really exciting young players who have been hurt thus far this season. It just sucks cause those guys that aren’t already “old hat” tend to be the one’s who make teams that weren’t very interesting something to watch…. like the D’Bags this year. It’s fun to see them take on the Doyers and Padres, see if they can give em a run for their money with all those good rookies and sophomores they have.

Co worker asked if I was worried about the Rangers. I said sure, if De Grom pitches a full season… I don’t think the Astros are cooked at all.

Other than his last inning, Canning looked good, had a plan, etc. Nice. Very un-Suarez. I think Barria and Suarez are in realistic danger of DFA when the Angels want some Wantz. Tucky D most likely gets next #6 start and Canning moves to 5 spot.

Are you concerned about the bullpen? I know I am. Last ten games, Angels pen is ranked #9 in ERA and #7 in WHIP. Coming up we have the Yankees and the Brewers, both of whom have pens pitching better. It will be a battle of the bullz, but I think by the end of that cycle the brass will start thinking about all those guys without options on the team and how much longer they can be allowed to go if they suck.

RexFregosi
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11 months ago

yep you mentioned worry (Rangers) and concern (bullpen)

while i agree, its April. unless im scotty servais, im not worried this month.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

How dare you. Scotty Servix is a saint!

Twebur
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11 months ago

You meant Dorthy Mantooth?
https://youtu.be/Mz4FtlTfkbs?t=10

GrandpaBaseball
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11 months ago

Why can’t the Angels score more runs when Shohei pitches?

Does the team think he is just going to it all by himself?
After himself and Trout things get weak in the line up fast?
The other team’s pitchers do their best when pitching against Shohei?

It’s an off day so my mind wanders, but what do you think happens that we seem to not help Shohei out with more offense?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago

I think it’s all a locker room conspiracy so that they can go back to having sex on game nights and stop worrying about Shohei’s mom’s sensitivities. Or it’s just bad luck.

tommyshalo
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11 months ago

The lack of run support when Sandy pitched last season was even worse and Shohei probably got some above 2022Angels average support during that span.
Hope both of them will get consistent breathing room this year.

Fansince1971
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11 months ago

Maybe because he is usually going up against the other team’s #1 starter?

Angelz4ever
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11 months ago

There’s been an Archie Bradley siting….

GrandpaBaseball
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Where is he siting?

red floyd
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11 months ago

Next to Veronica.

FungoAle
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Laying in front of the dugout railing?

steelgolf
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11 months ago

Leave it to Philly fans to have hot dog fights. I guess it is a step in the right direction from throwing batteries. And because I like hot dogs, I’m somewhat intrigued!

GrandpaBaseball
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11 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

“The mustard came off the Hot Dog”, Chick Hearn.

Twebur
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11 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Need Gritcho’s hot dog in the face girl.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

The true locus of that GIF isn’t the hot dogs, but rather the dead happy stupid look on the girl’s face as the tubes of cheapmeat come at her. The look of 60 IQ points repeating their big idea for the 75th time and loving the feeling.

The wobbly hot dogs are just a bonus.

rosstrade
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11 months ago

I’ll be honest with you, Crashing the Pearly Gates is the one site I check into daily.
It’s my fix, my passion.

Back in the old days, I’d do google searches for news on Halos baseball and come up with nothing.

I really appreciate this site and the writers and editors who run and manage it and the contributors, the fans, that provide input.

What is the best way to support this site….?

2pints
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11 months ago
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cut internet access to 2002

WallyChuckChili
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11 months ago
Reply to  2pints

Stop people from replying to 2002.

max
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max
11 months ago

totally

steelgolf
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11 months ago
Reply to  rosstrade

Go to the “Patreon” link at the bottom of the page or on the main site. I have supported the site since it’s inception.

Jim Atkins
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11 months ago

Caught most of the Marlins game the other week where Alcantara pitched a complete game shutout. Their announcers were discussing who they’d rather have, Sandy or Shohei. Both of them came down on the Alcantara side. Seems to me the premier two-way player of all time is more of an asset than Alcantara. Not to knock the man, he is an excellent pitcher. Any thoughts?

SC_Halo
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11 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Dodgers will probably trade for him

Jeff Joiner
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11 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Alcantara helps my team on the mound once every 5 games.

Ohtani helps my team on the mound once very 5 games.
Ohtani helps my team from the batters box in those games and most of the others.

Pretty easy decision to me.

WallyChuckChili
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11 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Plus an extra roster spot!

GrandpaBaseball
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11 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

If your team does not have an Ohtani or if you don’t see much of him then you may not understand what he means to a team and it’s fan base. He is one of the top hitters in his league, just look at his total bases the last two years. He is the best pitcher in the league right now, I believe he should have been CYA winner last year. MLB has never seen what he is accomplishing right now. Sure, there was the Babe, but he had only one year doing both hitting and pitching, Shohei has now had 2 big years and is working on his third. If the DH was used in the teens then maybe Ruth would have done more, but it wasn’t available and the Yankees figured out the best way to go in using his greatness. Add to Shohei’s brilliance the fact that he has a great demeanor and personality and his smile makes him the total package.

Let Miami enjoy what they have, when he goes Free Agent he still won’t be half the value that Shohei brings to the game.

Eric_in_Portland
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11 months ago

plus he does a great Rendon impression

GrandpaBaseball
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11 months ago

That he indeed does, funny stuff too.

Dogface1956
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11 months ago

But does he have grit? We need great grit, lot’s of grit True Grit

red floyd
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11 months ago
Reply to  Dogface1956

And does he have veteraniness? An is that veteraniness gritty?

Dogface1956
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11 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Nothing better than veteran grit, with veteran grit he would be filled with gritty goodness and thus be unstoppable.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  Dogface1956

How long is this guy’s stubble?

WallyChuckChili
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11 months ago

He hasn’t shaved since we signed him.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago

Championship.

BruinsAngelsKings
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11 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

That some straight home cooking announcing.

Fansince1971
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11 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Maybe they were just comparing Alcantara to pitcher Ohtani.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

I thin they were talking about purely pitching ability. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure the Marlins announcers are aware that Ohtani hits. At this point, who isn’t?

Guest
11 months ago

After playing the Blue Jays, whom most people expect to be a playoff team, and playing the Nationals, whom most people expect to be a cellar dweller, there doesn’t seem to be much separation in the overall talent level between the good teams and the bad teams in the MLB.

Twebur
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11 months ago
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Angels slowly digging themselves out of the hole at the bottom of overall talent “we hope”. Haveing Trout, Shohei and nothing else, really shows the missed opportunity we had. Just an average farm system could have meant playoff appearances and playoff-contending teams.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
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Pretty much all of the teams will win and lose 65 games. So the other 32 are the difference between Doyers and Nationals most years. Which is why it can still be fun to watch baseball even if your owner never buys you a championship.

Twebur
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11 months ago

The arrested government leaker is Jack Douglas Teixeira.

Thought for a second the Angels were going to add to Arte’s famous list of “Off the Field Tragedy Hall of Fame”

Jack Gordan Teixeira is Mark Teixeira’s son…looked up his name, that was close.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Teixeira

Last edited 11 months ago by Twebur
Mikeal1st
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11 months ago

I know they won the series but I would have like to see them do better in this last series… mostly not too much runs and one blown game.

Fansince1971
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11 months ago

So Angels start the year taking 3 series of 4. Two of them were against teams that I would consider “easy” – i.e. the Nats and A’s and two of the series were against strong teams – i.e. Toronto and Mariners. 6 were away. 6 were home.

Angels were 1-1 in the “tough” series (beating the M’s and losing the series to the Jays) and 2-0 in the “easy” series.

Angels are now 2-3 in one run games.

So – overall it’s a decent start although could have been better. Tough road trip now with 7 in Boston and NY. It’s never easy playing in those parks. I would be happy with 4-3 over the next 7.

Twebur
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11 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

More interested in how we play. Ideally be competitive in all 7. I’ll take a 3-4 road trip, pitch well, improve the IF defense and don’t snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. 

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Yup. 4-3 is a win. I’d take that and smile. One of the “good” things about the new schedule is that no one has streak of games where they are feasting on 4 or 5 bad teams in a row (Looking at you 2000s YankSux). We get the Royals and A’s in a row soon and…. that’s it, the next three months have us playing at least one fairly strong team out of every series. Same with the Cardinals, Pirates, Rays, O’s and Reds. The Rays lucked out and caught some pretty damn cold teams. But if any team has 100 wins this year it’s not because they played losers 25% of the time.

Guest
11 months ago

The Angels scored 9 runs in the WAS series. Here is who was responsible for how much:

1.75 Renfroe
1.50 O’Hoppe
1.25 Phillips
1.25 Drury
1.25 Rengifo
0.75 Urshela
0.50 Ward
0.25 Rendon
0.25 Ohtani
0.25 Trout

Here are the true runs surrendered per batters faced for the Angel pitchers. Data is year-to-date. Batters faced is in parenthesis.

0.00 Quijada (17)
0.01 Ohtani (75)
0.05 Sandoval (44)
0.05 Wantz (17)
0.06 Estevez (24)
0.10 Canning (20)
0.11 Anderson (47)
0.13 Moore (18)
0.14 Herget (18)
0.16 Detmers (45)
0.19 Suarez (44)
0.19 Barria (25)
0.20 Davidson (20)
0.20 Tepera (14)
0.22 Loup (15)

John Henry Weitzel
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11 months ago

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TrojanBoiler
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11 months ago

This is a really cool chart. The SS and CF positions are interesting – teams tend to either have absolute elite studs at these positions batting early, or they go defense first and the position bats at the end of the lineup.

JackFrost
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11 months ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

The number of 1B men batting Clean-up is amazing. But it actually makes sense; these guys tend to be larger and less mobile, thus it would not be good to put them in the OF or at IF positions requiring mobility… And the larger size equates with more HR power, thus they bat 4th.

Angels22
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11 months ago

I’m amazed by the Rays. They always seem to have a successful team even without your typical stars. Wish the Angels organization can find success like that.

MarineLayer
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

That would require an excellent,scouting system, good player development, as well as a front office that can recognize talent, among other things. Not going to happen while Arturo is the owner

Guest
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

This comment is bait for one of gitcho’s scathing, smartest-guy-in-the-room takedowns.

Twebur
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11 months ago
Reply to 

Thinking 2002 with a picture or 2 should pipe in on this too.

Get going on that GhostGuest……or 2002 or Guest 1, 2, 3, whoever is on the keyboard today.  👉  👊  👋 

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
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Lay down. I am the smartest guy in the room. Phlebotomy.

red floyd
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11 months ago
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We need Subop to come here and lay down the law.

YOUknowulovetheIE
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

Wander Franco and their top 3 starters are stars. You can even toss in arozarena now.

cookmeister
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

This is not to diminish what the Rays have done, it’s awesome.

But they have played arguably 4 of the worst teams in the league, with 9 of the 12 games being at home.

JackFrost
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11 months ago
Reply to  cookmeister

I made this point here over a week ago with a long post/comment… I added the idea that MLB had clearly favored them for some reason by giving them that incredibly easy opening schedule …

Last edited 11 months ago by JackFrost
2pints
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11 months ago
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LOL everything is a conspiracy to you. Every MLB team will play every other team in baseball this season for the first time ever.

JackFrost
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11 months ago
Reply to  2pints

Did you read my original post/comment? Then best to keep your mouth shut idiot.

I explained in that post why the easy early schedule is important.

Last edited 11 months ago by JackFrost
cookmeister
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11 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

resorting to name calling.. classic

JackFrost
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11 months ago
Reply to  cookmeister

You attack me (and make no mistake, that was an attack) unprovoked, then yes, you are likely to get something like that back.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

AN ATTACK!…. or, is it? Aliens?

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JackFrost
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11 months ago

😂 🤣 🤣

2pints
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11 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

if that was an attack then I honestly don’t know how you go outside and face the big scary world, Mr. Thin Skin.

2pints
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11 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Was your previous post/comment as stellar of analysis as you offered elsewhere in this post about how 1B usually are power hitters and why? When do you start writing for Fangraphs with such out-of-the-box ideas like that?

Also, this is not an outlet where one opens their mouth to type comments, I use my fingers to write, so why would I shut my mouth? Although, I admit, my mouth does fall agape in awe after reading all of your conspiracy analysis. I presume you were a CIA analyst in your younger days?

Have you admitted yet that the Will Smith/Chris Rock slap wasn’t a conspiracy yet? Or are you still dying on that hill?

Last edited 11 months ago by 2pints
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11 months ago
Reply to  2pints

I always thought you have a kinda pretty mouth….

Dogface1956
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11 months ago
Reply to  2pints

Boys can’t we just get along and play nice and focus all of our hate on Artie, Yanks, Sux, Mariners, A’s, Dodgers, Rangers please I am begging you.

2pints
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11 months ago
Reply to  Dogface1956

you’re clearly sent by the deep state to divert our attention from the clear corruption of the MLB schedule makers. Nice try pal!

Jimmuscomp
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11 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Dude. A little strong.

Guest
11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

In 2010 when Jason Heyward was the darling rookie of the MLB, I remember wishing the Angels had a young, talented player like that who would come up from the minors and make all the other fanbases bitter with jealousy.

2pints
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11 months ago
Reply to 

and in 2011 your wish was granted when they called up some kid named Trout

LanaBanana
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11 months ago
Reply to  Angels22

I’m glad we don’t play them until August and September. Hopefully they will have cooled down by then.