LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Sad Trombone

Welcome to your Wednesday links, The Angels lost big yesterday but today is another day I hope. MLB says no sticky stuff. We’ll take care of that for you. Michael Lorenzen will soon be back from his groin injury.

The Mets Tommy Hunter is now on the 15 day IL with back spasms. Austin Hedges went on the 7 day concussion IL. Both Johnny Cueto and Joey Wendle also went on the injured list. Fernando Tatis Jr. is rehabbing in El Paso and will soon finish out his PED suspension. The Phillies selected McKinley Moore and designated Jhailyn Ortiz for assignment.

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Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
10 months ago

One stat I remember in my younger days was that the 1990 Reds were never shutout on their way to winning the WS. Last night, after seeing the Angels down by so much, my silver lining was that they scored two runs. Nothing but positive here.

TheCheetah
Member
10 months ago

I just found that posts are still happening on this site…I guess if you’re not logged in nothing new shows up on the front page?

...Rev Halofan
Editor
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  TheCheetah

That might be a YOUR BROWSER CACHE issue and not a SITE LOGIN issue

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  ...Rev Halofan

i checked that yesterday – it isn’t device related

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

if you aren’t logged in, it shows updates just through Monday – nothing since.

its a common issue across all 3 my devices iphone, iPad, Windows laptop

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Once I logged in then everything refreshed. I cleared the catch and cookies and that still didn’t work

YOUknowulovetheIE
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10 months ago
Reply to  ...Rev Halofan

Cleared my cache but had the same issue

Last edited 10 months ago by YOUknowulovetheIE
DowningDude
Legend
10 months ago

My kids clear my cash.

Twebur
Legend
10 months ago
  1. T Ward (R) LF
  2. M Trout (R) CF
  3. S Ohtani (L) P
  4. H Renfroe (R) RF
  5. B Drury (R) 2B
  6. J Lamb (L) 1B
  7. G Urshela (R) 3B
  8. L Rengifo (S) SS
  9. L O’Hoppe (R) C

Let’s score some runs for Shohei for a change.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Best possible lineup for runs to be scored.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I have a bias preference for Fletcher, but I concede that neither is hitting just yet.

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

so i thought Fletch was a guy who got subbed out for defensive purposes in late games, and that he was more bat-first?

Now Fletch is a late inning defense replacement? Or is it just because he’s hurt?

At any rate though i agree – Rengifo is better offense at SS than Fletch.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Right now, Rengifo is getting on base because of BB, between the 2 they are not scary with the lumber. I do not recall Fletcher ever being a liability in the field. I am puzzled by his missing bat though, but we are only 5 games in.

FungoAle
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Fletcher on the pine = good, the most competent bats (minus Anthony) are in the line-up

Cowboy26
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10 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

minus Walsh as well.

GrandpaBaseball
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10 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

His fielding is not MLB level at SS. We have too many 2B right now. One is going to be gone by trade deadline. Fletcher on pine = no good.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago

Fletcher and Rengifo are equally unproven at SS. Fletcher can’t hit his way out of a paper bag for quite a while now. Hopefully he picks it up soon, otherwise he’s Phillips if Phillips were an unproven CF.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
10 months ago

And yet the optimism for Fletcher to have a “bang-up bounce back” season is overflowing at CTPG. It’s been a season and a half, so I don’t get the great hope? Could it be Ecksitholm Syndrome?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Marcotor

I want him to bounce back too, and I actually think he will sort of. I just don’t understand why Tepera can actually have a solid 2022 and he’s radioactive while Lil’Davey gets to be either meh, crap, or hurt for just about as long as Rendon and he’s still kissable.

My theory is that morons, deep in their stupid pink hearts, still think we should have somehow signed Wheeler or Cole and gone with…. OH! David Fletcher was our primary 3B in 2019.

David Fletcher…. CtPG guy really ruins the poor fella for me. Like Jeter fans… but pathetic and dumb.

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago

St. Louis manager Marmol going unorthodox in publicly throwing a player under the bus so early in the season – seems out of line. He now has a toxic clubhouse.

I’m guessing at the end of the year, it’s O’Neill who will still be in STL and Marmol will get a boot.

Twebur
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10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Remember back in the day when managers kept issues in the clubhouse……

JackFrost
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Yes, waaay before social media.

Twebur
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

And kids knew better to walk on my lawn.

red floyd
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10 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Hear, hear!!!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Honestly, I prefer my managers much like I prefer my assassins. I don’t want to know anything about them. Temperament, zany quirks, the name of their stupid dog, which players they are happy about, do they like the GM, is he tough or wussy, blah blah blah. In the clubhouse let all that out. Outside those doors I want the manager to be a bland, cold, game winning android killing machine that pisses off the press with his lack of good quotes.

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago

and if he is able to raise two sons to be MLB players, that also speaks volumes.

BannedInLA
Super Member
10 months ago

Bill Belichick says hello.

Guest
10 months ago

Griffin Canning is scheduled to pitch in the Inland Empire 66ers home opener this Thursday. It is an away game against the Dodgers’ Low-A team, the Rancho Cucamonga Quakes.

Speaking of RC, the first time I saw Mike Trout play, it was at a Quakes home game (back when they were an Angel affiliate). He had just been called up to the Quakes (who were High-A back then), and I knew I had to hurry and get to a game before the phenom got called up to Double-A.

In one of Trout’s at bats, he hit an exit-velo buster that hit the outfield wall on the fly in the CF-RF gap. I was watching the ball fly to the wall and I thought that Trout better hustle to second base if he wanted a double since he hit it so hard, it just might have to be a single.

I watched the CFer quickly pick up the ball that ricocheted off the wall. I watched the throw as it came in to second base for the bang-bang play, but Trout wasn’t there.

I looked over to first base, but he wasn’t there either.

He was over at third getting up from his head-first slide.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
10 months ago
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This puts Griffin on track to pitch on April 12th, the first day we’ll need a sixth starter. Of course a roster move would need to be made.

But the Angels have clearly designed it so Griffin can seamlessly replace Davidson on the roster.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I think it depends on his Rancho pitching game. Odd man out I think will be Barria. Shohei going 6, then Davidson brought in. If Trucker goes 4 and looks good he will be brought in one more time before a decision is made.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago

Yeah, if Tucky D actually lives up to my ridiculous level of hype while Suarez and Barria both kind of suck he may be spared while one of the Burrito Training Table guys gets soft tossed off the roster… mainly because they will be more likely to pass through waivers.

And they look bouncy.

Cowboy26
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10 months ago
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Well the GOAT’s too fat to do that now.

Guest
10 months ago

It seems to me that the Reds didn’t get much for Luis Castillo in their mid-season trade last year with the M’s. They got two young Low-A infielders, a Double-A starting pitcher who had a 5.28 ERA at the time of the trade, and a Low-A relief pitcher.

The highest regarded of these four minor leaguers was Noelvi Marte, a promising slugger with decent OBP skills and a weak glove. 

It’s tough to see a divisional rival make such a significant upgrade to their regular roster, but I can imagine the Reds passing at an Angel infielder package of Livan Soto, Kyren Paris, Jeremiah Jackson, Luis Rengifo, with a couple MiLB pitchers thrown in.

MarineLayer
Super Member
10 months ago
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Marte is an excellent prospect, a Top 30 overall on some credible lists. A good fit at 3B for a rebuilding team.

Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

A Kyle Kubitza just shuddered through my body.

smithy610
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to 

Here’s a trip down memory lane. Looked like rghan had him figured out early:

https://www.halosheaven.com/2015/3/18/8219973/kyle-kubitza-top-angels-prospect-performance-of-2014

Twebur
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10 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

Jerry the deck chair rearranger extraordinaire.

MarineLayer
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to 

It’s a rule that the superstar for a bunch of prospects trade favors the superstar side, but every once in a while one of the prospects work out, and Marte has more than a non-zero chance of being one of them.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Yeah, I was gonna say, Noelvi Marte is a prospect we just didn’t have to trade if we wanted to last year. Arroyo is also a good prospect who will likely stick at SS. Between De La Cruz, Marte and Arroyo, Cam Collier, Matt Maclain, Spencer Steer and Encarnacion-Strand they have pretty much gone the “we will have our IF of the future” rout and they will move some of those guys to OF (along with Jonathan India perhaps). It’s not the worst plan.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
10 months ago

Rocket City unveiled its roster today: https://www.milb.com/rocket-city

Surprises:

> Almost of all last year’s banner bullpens arms are back (i.e. not in AAA). That’s weird. What do Torres, Joyce, Murphy et all have left to prove at this level?
> Neto, Jackson and Paris are back. Again, think AAA would have been a more logical fit for all but season is young (and middle infield playing time is finite, so there’s that).
> Edgar Quero and Calabrese are here, skipping high-A completely. I think that shows that the org regards Tri-City as a bat-killer. (Also demonstrates their bullish thinking on Calabrese, who was getting late spring at-bats and looking like an elite prospect.)

Guest
10 months ago

People say that the raised red threads of a pitcher’s spin rate have nothing to grab onto in the SLC air, which results in flat pitches. Maybe that makes Rocket City a better Petri dish for developing pitchers who are on the cusp of contributing to the MLB team.

Cowboy26
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to 

But if they can face better hitters at AAA in a more adverse environment (Not all parks in the PCL are high altitude) why wouldn’t you want them developing at the highest minor league level?

Maybe it’s time for the Angels to get a different AAA affiliate.

Twebur
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10 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Third time’s the charm….Edmonton Trappers here we come.
LA Angels (2023–? )
Anaheim Angels (1999–2000)
California Angels (1983–1992)

Cowboy26
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Whats wrong with Vancouver?

DowningDude
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

A rarely smiling Garret Anderson shares your sentiment:
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RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago

I thought Neto would be SLC but it’s Soto, Velasquez at SS.

To get Neto to SLC, what would you do with Squid?
you’d have to cut him and I thought they would.

in general it would mean cutting AAAA players at SLC to get AAA playing time for our more elite utes.

would you do that?

toad2065
Member
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

In a heartbeat!

MarineLayer
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Yes, cut him yesterday! I don’t ever want to see him in an Angels uniform again.

Last edited 10 months ago by MarineLayer
Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I prefer Neto seeing breaking pitches that actually break. That doesn’t happen in SLC.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

There is gonna be a big At Bat crunch between all these guys on those two teams…. guys will have to start playing out of position some, not the end of the world. Stephanic is the type of guy that disappears when these “problems” arise.

Twebur
Legend
10 months ago

They can promote from AA as easily as AAA, happens all the time.
AA has always been regarded best level for top prospects

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

NO! I need easily understandable progressions so I can be critical of moves!

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
10 months ago

AAA is at insane elevation, creating a Coors Field hangover effect for players coming from AAA.

I’m on board with keeping the real prospects at AA where the playing conditions better mimic Anaheim.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I wish they would move that AAA team…. but where? They could actually make RC their AAA team eventually, the new stadium there can expand easily and the area is growing. Then find a smaller venue to take on being AA… or just do Mobile again if they ever actually renovate the Bears stadium.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago

Yeah, Calabrese surely had a “HEY! OVER HERE!” spring.

Guest
10 months ago

Myles Straw almost held onto the title of best player in baseball for the second day in a row.

In yesterday’s game against the Oakland As, Straw got a single in his first at bat. He walked in his next two ABs, showing just what it takes to be the best in the sport, but then alas! He made the final out of the visitors’ ninth inning. It was the last at bat the Guardians would have before losing the game on Tony Kemp’s walk-off single.

So who is the reliever who struck out Straw and wrested the title of MLB’s Best Player away from him?

Trevor May.

steelgolf
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to 

Looks like the cover shot for MLB The Show 2024!

Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Look into my eyes.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to 

I like this “boxing ranking” version of baseball.

smithy610
Super Member
10 months ago

One of those games that got away from the team early. Hopefully these types of games will just be few and far between.

Let’s go win the series tonight!

RexFregosi
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

better start earlier than that – game is 1pm

Guest
10 months ago

The key for an Angel victory later today is “Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, Pt. 1” by The Flaming Lips.

Twebur
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to 

 Do you realize? You’re rooting against Jer Jer?
https://youtu.be/5zYOKFjpm9s

Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

she knows that
it’s demanding
to defeat thoooose
evil machines.  🎶 

Guest
10 months ago
Reply to 

Also, DiPoto was given a raw deal during his tenure with the Angels. I am glad that he got a second chance with the Mariners to show what he can do if given an unfettered opportunity.

Twebur
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to 

The natives are getting restless over at “Chicken of Sea” or what ever they call their fan site…some are not happy with Jer.

Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Maybe they need a gitchogriffeyoffmypaciorek over there to get them to stop their sad-sack complaining already.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to 

Mariners fans are meant to be sad donkeys.

Cowboy26
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to 

I’m glad too. This way Trader Traitor Jerry can prove once and for all that it wasn’t just Evil Arte that has led to his 11+ years of unsuccessful Baseball operations oversight

Check Swing
Newbie
10 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Jedi reminds me of a less successful version of Lebron. I wonder if he will walk out on the M’s 2 weeks before the draft if things don’t go his way

Fansince1971
Legend
10 months ago

Angels will win some 13-3.
Angels will lose some 11-2.

The games that REALLY matter at the end of the season are the 1 and 2 run games.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Angels will win some. Angels will lose some. If the ratio stays the same, it will be a good season.

Cowboy26
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

BUT THE ANGELS WILL WIN SOME GAMES?

red floyd
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Let us consult the wisdom of the sage. TAME has said it and it is so: We will win some games

Last edited 10 months ago by red floyd
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
10 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Fun Fact. I saw a Subaru at Taco Bell at like 12am the other night. The license plate read TAME. Lot’s of Santa Barbara County Guy wisdom bumper stickers. I was giddy. I got out my phone to take a picture. But there were people in the car wondering what I was doing so I was crestfallen and I put my phone away.

Check Swing
Newbie
10 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Every game they don’t loose is a guaranteed win. The math checks out