LA Angels Weekend News Crash: No No and No

We had a combined no hitter in the World Series as four Astros combined to keep the Fightin’ Phils out of the hit column on Wednesday night. Pretty amazing accomplishment.

Don Larsen’s perfect game in the 1956 will stand as the greatest pitching performance in Fall Classic history, and deservedly so. But to have four guys be that lights out in one game is no small feat. Here is some fun trivial on WS no hitters.

Want some incredible baseball history? Here’s Vin Scully calling that legendary Larsen perfecto.

In Angels land, the operative word here is also no. As in no, the Angels are not actively pursuing Shohei Ohtani trades.

Instead of focusing on losing a Japanese sensation, perhaps we should be trying to add one to the team, Kodai Senga has filed the required paperwork to enter free agency and will officially be a free agent next week. Take a look at a scouting report on him.

Further speaking of no, we’ve had some great fanposts about how the Angels would get down to Cleveland level payroll.

Gitcho went even further and got us down to Pirates level payroll. That’s your longform piece in case you haven’t read it yet. Put on a full pot of coffee.

As we gear up for our off season pieces, remember the talent pool will have some additions as teams non tender arbitration eligible players. I’d gladly take several of the names on this list of non tender candidates.

Keep in mind trades for non tender guys are fairly common and usually pretty inexpensive. If a team is about to lose a guy for nothing, they’ll generally take something.

Another batch of players will enter the free agency pool after all the option decisions are made. Here’s a handy list of players with options, the cost of the options, and who holds them.

I’m sure Trevor Bauer has his email to opt in already typed and is just waiting to hit send. However, there are some interesting cases in Justin Turner, Chris Basset, Taijuan Walker, and others.

It has been an interesting week for Houston gambler/furniture magnate Mattress Mack. First he had to defend miniature cheater Jose Altuve’s honor and nearly got into a fight with Philly fans. He’s trying to make up for that incident by inviting Eagles fans to his suite at the Texans game.

If he thinks Phillies fans are nice, just wait until he meets Eagles fan that has been tailgating all morning.

MLB announced the winners of the Gold Glove awards this week including 14 first time winners. Fangraphs took a dive into the numbers behind the awards and what the voters told us and didn’t.

Sorry there’s not a ton more to link. MLB does a great job of keeping the World Series in the spotlight.

Enjoy your weekend and link what I missed below.

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WallyChuckChili
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1 year ago

Suzuki, Duffy, Lorenzen and Bradley all elected free agency.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

Thought Suzuki retired?

Jim Atkins
Super Member
1 year ago

About the only thing I care about in the WS is Dusty finally getting a ring. Always liked him, all the way back to his Dodger days. Don’t get me wrong, he seriously pissed me off giving the game ball away early in Game 6, but he paid for that etiquette gaffe. His HOF ticket is all set. No disagreement here.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Won a ring as a player in 1981 but great to see him get one as a manager. The right guy for the Astros at the time. Always felt he got a raw deal as the skipper in Cincinnati and Washington. Imagine, getting fired after winning 97 and 95 games in his only two seasons with the Nationals.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

I believe The Phillies fleeting moment in the spotlight has now come to an end. I predict the Phils will not get remotely close to a WS ring in this decade and that the knightly Dombrowski will eventually be terminated in order to shepherd the Nashville expansion franchise.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Quite a Frosty take … did Jack hijack your account?

🤣

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

No but if you look at the difficulty for teams to repeat in the current era , especially teams that are not very deep in roster construction, as well as Dombrowski’s history in building up a team and then quickly crashing down to earth when the system becomes fallow (See 2015 Tigers & 2019 Red Sox) predicting the Phillies demise is not an irresponsible bet.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ah … bet. So you’re that Mattress dude.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

You’re killing me Downing.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

so it’s Dombrowski’s fault that the tigers still suck 7 yrs after the fact?
This is one of yer garden variety 80%er grudges.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Really dude? you really want to take up this issue considering all of you other non sensical ramblings you espouse on a daily basis?

Ok I will help educate your feeble brain but it will take some effort on your part to research the facts.

Go look at the roster of your holy namesake season. The Angels were primarily a homegrown team so go research how many years prior each player joined the organization prior to that magical year. Also for extra credit go look up how many years most of today’s WS champions have been in the Houston Organization. Seven years in the development of a successful player feeder system is to expected even if the front office people that initially drafted and developed the players are long gone.

This is why I feel that Dipoto did this organization ( and by extension ou fans) such a disservice by building this turd and then running out the door.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

exhibit 1A…….2015 NY Mets.
Then GM Sandy Alderson, yes that Sandford Alderson of the Oakland A’s 30+ years ago, and successfully rebuilt a late 2000’s old and very injury prone overpaid team left by Omar Minaya beginning in 2010. 5 yrs to get the Mets back into the WS…….

Last edited 1 year ago by 2002heaven
Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

And how many of Sandford’s vaunted starting pitchers were inherited from Minaya? And how many Championships did Sanford ultimately bring home to Gotham City?

I rest my case.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

80%er…. still not a think man.

2002heaven
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

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go gnaw on one.
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Cowboy26
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1 year ago

So our model should be the Astros whose model was us? https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1589286988783312896

So quickly we forget the past.

Last edited 1 year ago by Cowboy26
nishiogawakun
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Oh, this is an interesting stat! Thanks for linking. So true.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Thanks Arte for letting the Astros win.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Thanks, but they’re a way better light years ahead better than us, I’m pretty sure they didn’t need our help!
Is 76 yr old Tony La Russa gonna be our interim GM/POBO now? Kool thatt waye hee can sell all R tawp 2023 MLB draft picks and international pool money to all the teems who won 100 games. Fire half the work force like that guy who owns Spacex at Twitter
Phoenix is over there————>>>>>>>>>
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MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

I thought that once again the umping was a problem. The strike zone was impressionistic at best and that foul ball looked fair to my eyes.

Now that the post-season is finally I would hope we can make some moves while waiting for Arturo to leave the building. I continue to wonder how we can proceed with one arm tied behind our back.

Last edited 1 year ago by MarineLayer
Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

This is the question. Will the team make any meaningful moves while the uncertainty over the new owner(s) exists? I personally think that the answer is no – but that is based on my own experience in transactional litigation. Typically a company that is for sale doesn’t like to change for fear that change will affect the sale price.

Adding payroll commitments is a liability on the balance sheets which arguably lowers the value of the franchise.

Trading away popular players will potentially raise concerns about future revenue generation (ticket and merchandise sales) which can lower the value of the franchise.

Staying pat is arguably the best financial move as the buyers know what they are buying. People hate uncertainty particularly in business transactions.

My guess is a few lower tier free agents on 1 year deals is the best we can hope for.

Last edited 1 year ago by Fansince1971
MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I agree, and small moves around the edges is moving backwards as true contending teams will improve to a far greater extent.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

That is actually a good point.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Prepare for a few chairs on the deck getting shuffled, nothing too big. No big names until the new ownership and new GM arrive onto the scene.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Sounds like we’re waiting for George S Patton to relieve Lloyd Fredendall?
Steve Jobs to relieve John Scully III. I hate Alex Anthopoulos’s Concierge already after just 2 yrs, yes he sucks. Go to Starbucks and Staples and get some Frappuccino’s and toner Perry!!

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Actually we’re waiting for you to stop soiling yourself on every post.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago

So here we go with after the World Series announcements from GPB;

The envelopes please,

American League MVP Aaron Judge NYFY

American League Cy Young Award Justin Verlander Houston Asstros

American League Rookie of the Year Rodrieguez Seattle Mariners

American League Manager of the Year Dusty Baker Houston Asstros

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Sounds accurate to me. How about the National?

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago

Congratulations to the Asstros. You won a World Series against a Wild Card Team without any apparent cheating. Throw in a combined No-Hitter and the fact you get to play in a weak division is not blowing me away too much. Happy for Dusty, that’s for sure. But here is one person who is not impressed as much as others are.

Verlander is impressive and a Hall of Famer, but what a season for a guy to have at 39 years old. CY for sure.

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
1 year ago

Don’t forget. Maldy used that illegal Pujols bat in game 1.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

I’m happy for former Angel Martin Maldonaldo since CTPG was rooting for Thor Syndergaard who was a original NY Met and only with us for 4 mths while making a way overpaid $21M. I hope if the new owners are willing to spend money and if he’s available that we get Dave Dombrowski.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
1 year ago

The Braves and the Dodgers should’ve played better in the playoffs. They swept a 100 win team (Yankees) BTW in the ALCS.

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Since when did this group join the Bryce Harper fan club? That’s all I’ve been hearing how Trout sucks, Ohtani is whatever and Harper is the face of baseball. I could care less about the Phillies. Plus I don’t get this romanticism over Marsh. I miss Maldonado way more as he actually handled a pitching staff here. Marsh was a K machine.

You know how shitty the Dodgers are? Booing Dusty Baker at the ASG. Look I’m not an Astros fan, but geez not crying over the Phillies.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

“That’s all I’ve been hearing how Trout sucks, Ohtani is whatever and Harper is the face of baseball.“

Just curious- who said these words you are quoting as being all you have been hearing? I’m in here all the time and haven’t heard anything like that.

I think the rooting for the Phils is actually rooting against the cheaters and that is all.

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Not there but social media and the national radio shows. My morning drive. I’m tired of it. Philly winning is yet another poop on our Angels. What did someone write “Harper getting the moment that Trout was supposed to have” when he hit that HR against SD as Joe Davis slobbered over him.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

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Do you have proof that they cheated this time?
Time to let that shit go and move on, most of the main characters are long gone (Jeff Luhnow, AJ Hinch, Alex Cora,). The main reason is because we aren’t very good and they’re the top team in MLB now that they won their second WS so no comparisons to the NFL Buffalo Bills either.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

Yeah, watching Marsh in the playoffs made me more comfortable with him being gone.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

It looks like he will be a platoon bat going forward.

nishiogawakun
Super Member
1 year ago

Barf. Sigh.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago

Well it’s been fun guys.

Let’s do it again for the WBC, eh?

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

Have to say if Pena was an Angel we would all be in love

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Shit, i’m smitten with just that quick interview lol

matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

I hope one of our SS prospects turns out half as good. Let’s go Soto (or Jackson, or Paris).

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

Zach Neto is the top one.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

A guy I would want even more is Bryan Aubreu.

Talk about an immediate upgrade to our bullpen! Imagine being able to bring him into games in the 7th inning!!

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago

Whole lot of excitement over a piece of metal…

The commish won’t punish you for cheating, but he’ll present you with the WS trophy.

Lmao.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

I feel like that little kid

Brent
Super Member
1 year ago

Should’ve kept the lockout going.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  Brent

💯

angelslogic
Super Member
1 year ago

I saw Alex on the field. Long time no see.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  angelslogic

They’ve got her cohosting a podcast. What a waste.

Was cool to see her!

angelslogic
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

Agree -wasted talent.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

Now let’s get the Angels sold and look to the future.

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

It will take a thousand years to get better than the Ass’tros.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

They have their flaws moving forward – less depth in the rotation and bullpen (might lost both Will Smith and Verlander). They should/need to improve in OF and 1B. Can McCullers, James, Whitley stay healthy enough to man the rotation? Do they trust Garcia, Urquidy, and Javier not to regress, with only a couple of years of service time under their belt?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Sorry, but their front office has proven themselves at being able to re-load effectively. Our front office, uh…not so much.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 year ago

Well, my bet is just that we best them in fewer than 1000 years. Too optimistic?

Angelstan
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Astros came off season with 39 year old having statistically one of the best seasons ever. A five foot eleven pitcher who no one wanted throwing 97 with a vicious curve. And a bunch of position guys that are suddenly terrific plus bullpen guys who have increased their velocity and become studs later in their careers.

It’s easy to “reload” when that can happen. I’m surprised Eric Gagne isn’t their closer.

angelslogic
Super Member
1 year ago

Congrats to the non-cheating ‘(this year) stros.

Halo71
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Except for the leaning into pitches

angelslogic
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Halo71

Yeah, saw that but the rule needs to be tightened up.

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago

Am I wrong for being happy for Dusty Baker even if the Ass’tros won?

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

I mean, that’s the narrative and I guess

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I think they should send his latex gloves to the HOF.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Twebur

Yes.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 year ago

as Chairman Mao once said, “that sucked”

Mia
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Mia
1 year ago

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