LA Angels Monday News Crash: DIY Links!

Hidey ho, Halos fans. The Angels topped off the weekend by splitting a set with the Seattle Mariners. They were helped by some terrific pitching performances, including Reid Detmers’ 7-strong innings yesterday.

Today’s thread will be a DIY, so please share any informative, insightful links in the comments below.

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Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Reading the JP Craawford piece on MLBTraderumors had me thinking, could trader Jerry think about unloading him?

I had to pull up the trade simulator to see what fits.

Angels get JP Crawford 38.2 value
Mariners get Fletcher and Ward 38.9 value

Rengifo gets the 2B position, we solve our SS issue.

Now I wish we still had Marsh but Adell, Trout, Moniak, would be the start. But I feel like we could go after a FA OF easier than getting into the bidding war for SS next year.

Does this work? Gritch, am I way off base here?

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Are you joking???

I would rather have Fletch alone over Crawford, and certainly Ward alone way over him.

Why in the hell would I trade both?

This kind of thing is why I totally disregard the trade simulator stuff..

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Remember when Arte was a total piece of shit who loved money more than winning because he wouldn’t pay more than the Cubs for Jason Heyward?

I do.

I also remember when a smaller % of people around here got so thirsty for free agent juices that they were pissed Arte didn’t care enough about winning to sign Kris Bryant. That would have been so championish if he had.

Last edited 1 month ago by gitchogritchoffmypettis
Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 month ago

There were people that actually wanted him to sign Heyward? Good thing he signed with the cubs, that was like paying for a range rover.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jayman28

Dude, there was strait up CtPG style runny mascara, “this org is a joke” rage over it. Why do ya think all the dull pointing around here’s such a friggin joke to me? Since about 2006 it’s some variant of the same conniption all day every day over everything…. which is why the gods hate our team.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 month ago

*facepalm

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 month ago

Heyward I was never high on even that offseason. Glad we didn’t go there.

But Arte defiantly refusing to raise his offer on Adrian Beltre to like $80M when Beltre wanted to play here outweighs all the goodwill of not signing Heyward, JA Happ, Keuchel etc.

IMO it was the inflection point of his entire ownership because of the chain reaction of transactions that resulted due to the void Beltre would have filled (Wells, Pujols, Hamilton probably do not happen if Beltre was on the payroll)

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago

A defensive wizard center fielder with an underwhelming bat will be a free agent.

Possible replacement for our defensive wizard with an underwhelming bat? Probably a lateral move WAR wise although Marsh has upside remaining and KK does not.

However, if you can have the same defensive value on the grass and a catcher who can actually hit in the lineup that’s an improvement.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

No. No improvement. Never improvement. Only darkness.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 month ago

But there is always darkness before the light…..

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Hello darkness my old friend….

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Has a $13M Club Option which I would not exercise. A better option to me is Brandon Nimmo. This team cannot afford to keep rolling out below par bats. More of the same, right?

Next years FA OFs are very subpar. Perry needs to trade his way. Use Rocket City or whatever, team needs to win.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

This team can not afford to ever pay for an above average bat again.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

The Rays will 100% buy out that option and he’ll be a free agent next year. Coming off injury, KK will cost a fraction of that $13 million.

But if he can provide solid defense in CF with an OPS+ even close to his career 90, he’d be more than replacing what Marsh gave us this year.

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I like the idea, up to a point. Good defensive 4th OF is really valuable, BUT he definitely should not be a starter.

But that also means we need at least another “starting” OF.

Last edited 1 month ago by h27kim
Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  h27kim

My main goal is to get Trout out of center.

KK’s career splits vs. righties: .247/.310/.425. That’s considerably better than we got from Marsh this year and right about league average.

Trout in one corner, Ward in another, KK in CF against most righties.

Adell, Trout, Ward vs. lefties

Occasionally Trout at DH so Adell, KK, Ward.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Rahul Setty

I don’t care what this alleged athletic trainer says. Let’s see a picture first. I don’t believe he exists. Maybe he’s Arturo posing as a trainer.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Rahul Setty

All kidding aside, any Trout updates?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  MarineLayer

I read he was going to start swinging the bat this week. He apparently has not swung a bat since prior to the ASG.

https://www.ocregister.com/2022/08/06/angels-mike-trout-begins-swinging-a-bat/

smithy610
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Rahul Setty

I think that’s great news. I like what I have seen from Moniak so far. Of course with the disclaimer that it is only SSS.

If Trout isn’t coming back, I wouldn’t mind seeing the rest of the season have a starting OF of Adell-Moniak-Ward. Might as well evaluate if the team is set on OF so they can focus on other things in the offseason.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Exactly.

Neither Adell or Moniak has gotten a couple of straight months worth of big league time. That’s what I want to.

Time to let them get out there and have some success, some failures, and see how they adapt to each.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

There is absolutely no reason to ever take them out ROS. Let’s see what we’ve got.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Rahul Setty

Well if Mickey wasn’t such a wimp he would have just cut it off and played the next day just like Ronnie Lott.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Rahul Setty

Learn how to hold the damn bat if you’re going to bunt

PedroCerrano
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Rahul Setty

Good post. The trade Trout comments are sadly about as accurate as the trade Albert post once were. Unless Trout is once again stellar for an extended period the Angels are married to that $35.4mm hit as well given his recent injury history. Personally I’d like to see them pull an Erstad with him and move him to first base. He’s a stellar athlete but perhaps needs to be protected from himself given his frame and style of play. Pretty certain I’ll get roasted for these takes though  🙂 

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Walter Johnson. Along with Christy Mathewson these two guys are like long lost semi-folk heroes that are victims of incredible recency bias. I have heard talk show twats basically write Johnson off when comparing him to frggin CC Sabathia.

But he’s such an interesting guy. No one can prove how hard he threw, but everyone said for decades he threw harder than anyone ever has accept maybe Bob Feller. His mechanics were weird. He played for the Washington Senators. He was a pretty mellow guy. So he kind of just fades into the mists of history and, since he played before integration etc people act as though he’d never faced competition as withering as Josh Gibson and Cool Papa Bell. But he did. And he made them look silly. He’s a prime example of who I think of when I hear that “PLAYER” would be a massive HOF star if he played in 1921… maybe, but I’m not 100% certain.

I won’t list them here, but if you see his stats, and then imagine he was a Yankee, he’d be the greatest pitcher ever by a country mile. If you’re bored, take a look at this short video on how Johnson was basically so good, even compared to modern pitchers, that it makes no sense. If you want to see some footage of his weird pitching, we got that here. This is also kind of cool. Colorized footage of Senators spring training with Johnson as manager throwing with some of his pitchers…. but it’s cool to see the drills, etc that all these old timey players were doing, etc. I watch all these pitchers, see their bodies, how they throw, and think to myself “All of these guys could basically throw 300 innings back then. Andrew Heaney can’t throw 100. When Max Scherzer pitches 180 innings he’s a “warrior”. Yup. “

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Thanks for the interesting post.

It’s hard to believe that the Big Train threw that hard with his funky 3/4 arm delivery.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  rosstrade

With that arm motion…. imagine how much that ball must have moved, it was also likely a very “heavy” fast ball too.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Hey CoachDad. Ever wondered what the difference is between complaining about coaches and what coaches actually do? No?

Well, want to see lots of cool stuff about what they teach at Driveline? Here’s a ton of interesting videos on everything from arm health maintenance to recognizing pitches, etc. You can then go ahead and play like this is all stuff you’ve known all along and have been successfully preaching to all the SEC and MLB players you’ve personally mentored over the years…

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Why don’t we see the screwball anymore in baseball. Fernando Mania was all about a fat kid who could barely break 90MPH and his screw ball. Why hasn’t any failing AAA pitcher out there tried to learn it? Maybe this video will assplain it to you….

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

Splitters and Cutters….get current

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Brain Downing was my favorite Angel when I was a very young boy. Bored today? Here’s a nice video on his career.

grichmanpoorman
Member
1 month ago

Certified Fresh.

grichmanpoorman
Member
1 month ago

He looked a little like a shorter, blonder Christopher Reeves.
Better known for getting thrown out at home by Parker, I think, than looking up in dejection at the Donnie Moore home run.

Omahalo22
Member
1 month ago

Of course this would happen to trash pandas. Lol. No injuries thank goodness. Lookout! Trash Pandas won by the way.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11091787/Freworks-LA-minor-league-baseball-game-goes-spectacularly-wrong.html

Last edited 1 month ago by Omahalo22
Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Omahalo22

They don’t call it Rocket City for nothing.

Omahalo22
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

You ain’t lyin’😂

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Omahalo22

Somebody should have known something was up when the concession stand had “Duck” as the special.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Omahalo22

Lawsuits coming soon

Dinkycreek
Newbie
1 month ago

Ahh yes. Steven Duggar, Texas castoff. Another dumpster dive by Perry. “Between San Fran and Texas, he’s hit .189/.241/.245, wRC+ of 39, striking out in 48.3% of his plate appearances on the year.”

He should fit right in to this pathetic team.

Last edited 1 month ago by Dinkycreek
GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Dinkycreek

Just imho, Eppler was better at the Dumpster buffet than PTP. Has Davidson been shown the door yet?

Last edited 1 month ago by GrandpaBaseball
FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

FACT

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Dinkycreek

It’s the team Angels fans have always deserved. We finally did it. Duggar and Moniak in the same year.

Time to trade everyone and become the A’s for a while.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

Don’t forget Lagares

Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 month ago

That’s no fun, we could always be the Rockies and just sit there at the deadline and keep players on the team until their contracts expire and get nothing in return.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Dinkycreek

We should sign Boofy Barber.

red floyd
Legend
1 month ago

He can give the rest of the team funny haircuts

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  red floyd

like a mohawk

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

I was hoping we’d claim Steele Walker, but the Giants got him first.

No idea if Steele can play the game, we just needed the name on the roster.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago

Maybe, but we seem more like a Janson Junk kind of team.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Dinkycreek

Oh let’s just give Perry a chance to put in place his organizational approach to winning baseball

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

How long do want him to have?

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I’m good with another year or so. I think his entire system requires a deep, homegrown bullpen and he’s a year away from having that based on what I’m seeing in AA.

That will coincide with the Tepera and Loup contracts, both of which looked good when they were signed, falling off the books.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I think that, when a team is really really really screwed up and full of evil, the way people describe it multiple times per day on my favorite Angels site, then it’s only fair and totally realistic to demand that a new GM fix it all in a year and a half. If he doesn’t, then obviously the plan was to never fix anything at all and said GM needs to be fired because a POBO and his completely different skill set will be what will fix everything.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I was being sarcastic. If I had hired him, he’d be gone.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

We’re in agreement on that.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  FungoAle

Still waiting…..

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Angels2020Champs
Super Member
1 month ago

8/8/1988 first night game at Wrigley field with Harry Caray and Bill Murray in the booth.

https://youtu.be/8tm3GFcPZQo

admkir
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I have a question, As bad as the team is doing could we activate Rendon from the IL the last week of the season so he can serve his suspension this year instead of next year

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  admkir

creative thinking…..

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  admkir

Would that be cheating? Just asking.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  admkir

I don’t see why they couldn’t. I believe the only downsides are 1) they need to have room on the 40-man roster when he is activated and 2) they can’t put him back on the IL next season for the same injury.

max
Trusted Member
max
1 month ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

I think they have to take him off the 60 day IL during the off-season and back on the 40 man

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  max

Players come off the IL during the off-season regardless (because of the rule 5 draft), but a player that ended the season on the IL is eligible to go back on the IL on opening day.

If Rendon is activated to serve his suspension at the end of this season, he won’t be eligible to be placed back on the IL on opening day unless he suffers a new injury.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

We’d have to put somebody like Squid on waivers. Oh no.

Pretty sure a one armed Rendon can hit as well as a two armed Squid.

benjiface
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

No problem, Miniasian can just DFA a useful player, like he’s done before

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  admkir

DH him. He can hit HR’s lefty. Maybe he can hit one-armed singles.

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Pete, Pete, Pete. You were and apparently still are sleazy.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  steelgolf

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FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Meanwhile…the crowd roared when his name was announced

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Pete Rose always felt he was better than everyone around him. The only commitments he ever made were to himself. A Commissioner allows PED’s use and now PED users are in the Hall of Fame and the Commissioner that allowed it to happen is in the Hall. Another Commissioner allowed sign stealing to go unpunished and the cheaters are still in the game.
I have always believed that Selig was a slim ball and gave used car salesman a bad name. He did more harm to the game than good. I believe that about his handpicked successor also. Pete Rose was always a slimeball and top-notch liar. I have also always believed that that Pete Rose should not go into the Hall of Fame. But MLB endorses gambling now and the MLBHOF allows cheaters, so how is it that Pete Rose and his character flaws is on the outside looking in?

I have no use for the HoF and will never attend again. The straw that broke the Camel’s Back was “Poppi”. Shoeless Joe had no idea what he agreed to in 1919, but was showed no leniency, but he was barred from the game and all other cheater’s except Rose are allowed to play and retire and except for 2 PED users, all others are to be looked upon with reverence, go figure.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

I have no issue with arrogance and taking the extra base

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

When your best defense is “I thought she was 16” you suck. Especially as a husband and father.

Rose is a asshole. He’s an asshole who played hard and played for a long time, but one baseball and society are better without.

James
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I am an underpaid railroad worker who hasn’t had a raise in years. I don’t have a link for this but you can trust me when I say the job pretty much sucks.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  James

Don’t let Arte know. He’d probably want to hire you as a minor leaguer.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  James

Time to change jobs.

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago

Derek Dietrich of the Yankees AAA affiliate just got a 50 game PED suspension.

Last edited 1 month ago by Charles Sutton
Cowboy26
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Should we trade for him?

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

For Derek to resort to PEDs to resuscitate a sporadic career, why not. Been floundering for a bit and probably worth the gamble.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  FungoAle

That dude already made 90% of MMA fighters look soft. He figured the answer was MORE muscle?

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FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

I saw another shot with the jersey on, you can tell just as easily.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago

He was suspended for a banned stimulant. Apparently the dude wanted to be tweaked out at the ballpark.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

50 games. That has to be a 2nd suspension, right?

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