Raisel Iglesias goes to Atlanta

Just as the deadline came, the Braves swooped in and took D-Cell off our hands.

Justin Time

Jesse Chavez is a 38 year old reliever while Tucker Davidson is a 26 year old starting pitcher.

If the Braves take all the money, it isn’t the worst thing. Pitching, especially relievers are fickle after all.

The hope is that Tucker can develop in the minors as that is where the good coaches are, and that Jesse can maybe audition to come back next year? He is gone after this season, so, why include him?

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RexFregosi
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5 days ago

replace Marsh in 2023 with Aaron Judge

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  RexFregosi

Let’s not stop until payroll is $300M annually

Jayman28
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5 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Where is the money going to come from? The printer?

FungoAle
Super Member
5 days ago

Perry’s old boss did him a solid, paid all of Iggy’s salary and in return, Perry took his discard, 13th rank [Fangraphs], 26-yr old prospect who was out of options.

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Frees up over $48K total for 2023-2025.

Ask yourself, how Iggy was hurling and what was he gonna close with this ragtime fugitive team?

Cowboy26
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5 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Do you have clouds in your beer or did you mean stock options? Cuz According to RR, Tucker Davidson still has one Minor League option left.

Eric_in_Portland
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5 days ago

Thor’s Mini-me DFA’d, apparently

RexFregosi
Trusted Member
5 days ago

we found the solution – get rid of the long-haired guys – clearly, that was the issue

McKinnon, Thor, Marsh – snip, snip, snip

AnAngelsFan
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5 days ago

So, in sum, the Angels downgraded in the bullpen (Iglesias v. Chavez), downgraded at OF (Marsh v. Moniak), replaced Thor with a potential back-end starter on a longer contract and added average hitting “prospects” at C and OF.

I can’t help but feel this was mostly salary relief for Moreno’s pocket book. Let’s hope Minasian/Moreno plan to do something with that money that will actually improve the team.

Oski_Bear
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Don’t they need to save money to sign Shohei? I mean, if they are serious about keeping him perhaps that’s part of the plan?

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Oski_Bear

Probably, yes, but just extending Ohtani isn’t enough.

Oski_Bear
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Obviously, but you gotta start somewhere. They may choose to use the money to sign other FA’s this off season, so either way we needed to shed some money.

2pints
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5 days ago
Reply to  Oski_Bear

Lets say Ohtani gets a $300 million contract, as an example. They just saved over 1/6 of it in today’s trades.

RexFregosi
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5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

im not clear we downgraded the bullpen. this bp needs guys like Chavez:

eat innings
mop up
be ready no matter what inning

if we don’t have the lead in the 9th, do we need a closer? no

this hurt at first but we should see that extra $48M somewhere else in 2023

Trea Turner

Cowboy26
Legend
5 days ago

But who will throw our sunflower seeds & bubble gum packets out onto to the field now?

DowningDude
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

This deal was a response forced by marginalized bubble gum everywhere. They don’t care about people marginalizing bubble gum in the South.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Rendon needs to do something this season

El_Duderino
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5 days ago

I heard he punched a dude.

Angelz4ever
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5 days ago
Reply to  El_Duderino

“Cast palming” is a thing!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Today was the start, not the end. Start all the guys we just traded for. Moniak’s 2022 batting average is too high. Run him out there through the end of the season even when the batting average is in the single digits.

Do not be satisfied until we’ve got a top 5 draft choice in 2023.

Blow. It. Up.

James
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Happy out supposed closer is gone. His batteries were clearly on empty this season

Last edited 5 days ago by James
Cowboy26
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Burnitdown!

FungoAle
Super Member
5 days ago

I think I smell kerosene…that is Kerosene!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

Cool. I guess. Got us out of a contract and got us a #5 Braves prospect.

Now, this winter, trade Ohtani. And Trout and Rendon if you can. And Sandoval. And Rengifo, and Fletcher, and Ward.

Burn it all down! We’ve all been bitching this into existence for years now, it’s our vineyard, let’s drink the wine! I want Max Stassi to be our best player next year.

That outa show Arte!

nishiogawakun
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5 days ago

You’re crazy! Stassi should be on the block too. #bringbackmathis

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  nishiogawakun

If we can trade him send out Stassi too. It. Burn down.

steelgolf
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  nishiogawakun

Isn’t Mathis coaching this year?

JakeTaylor
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Amazing, I actually agree with your nonsense for once…except the part about Stassi, I want Chavez to be our best player next year.

RexFregosi
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Nope.

we replace Marsh in 2023 with Aaron Judge.

and sign Trea Turner.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

To be honest, signing bothay ne more realistic than extending Ohtani

PedroCerrano
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Watching DeGrom. Hit 102mph on his third pitch.

Cowboy26
Legend
5 days ago

Is O’Hoppe on the 40 man? if so we will need to make another move for all the netchum we’re adding

ryanfea
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5 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

He was not on the Phillies 40 man, not sure the rules on that though.

Cowboy26
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5 days ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Hes not. I just checked RR. But Cesar Valdez and Cookie Rojas now have a locker in Anaheim so there will be other moves to be made tonight.

PedroCerrano
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Not upset with him going. I’m just questioning what their plan is. 30th ranked prospect pool. Add aging, damaged and highly paid stars that leave me questioning just how they emerge? Signing Ohtani will require a big salary and Arte hasn’t demonstrated the desire to pay the luxury tax.

Marshallx89
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

I presume that this major salary dump could be an effort to clear space for at least offering an enticing extension to Ohtani – but your guess is as good as mine. Worst case scenario, it frees up payroll for the angels to sign more aging former all stars who will disappoint haha

clover_black
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5 days ago

kinda weird to be be celebrating this one year after celebrating a 4 year contract. .

PedroCerrano
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5 days ago
Reply to  clover_black

no doubt

El_Duderino
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5 days ago
Reply to  clover_black

it is weird but things change.

clover_black
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5 days ago
Reply to  El_Duderino

do they?

El_Duderino
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  clover_black

no.

FungoAle
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  clover_black

Bad management will lead to this, yeah?

DowningDude
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

bad coaching. bad pitching. bubble gum abuse. etc.

FungoAle
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

bad santa…great flick.

RexFregosi
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

born to be bad

FungoAle
Super Member
5 days ago

While great to shed the bad contract, Perry traded Iglesias one year too late. Failed to take advantage of a “hot” closer at the deadline.

El_Duderino
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Great move. This is encouraging from Perry. It shows that he can see the landscape in front of him and realizes that the needs of the team today are different than they were at the start of 2023. Many owners would hold onto their own recent signing out of stubbornness– a soon-to-be-overpayed closer going into his mid-30’s who has a temperamental track record and losing velocity where the only thing that counts is velocity.

That said Iggy will be a great asset on a winning team because part of his makeup appears to require winning to be good. But keeping him is like rimming up your Honda Civic.

Last edited 5 days ago by El_Duderino
Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Welcome what the h*** was he gonna save with the Halos in 2022?

Good news is we got Jesse Chavez back – yay!

angelslogic
Super Member
5 days ago

He has regressed profoundly. But he will become Cy Iglesias with a new coach.

Rallymanatee
Trusted Member
5 days ago

It’s a bummer, but I get it. I was so excited when they re-signed him. The first legit closer we had since K Rod, or so it seemed. But he quickly started looking more like a Brian Fuentes type. If it ends up netting us better players in the off season (I’m not going to say an Ohtani extension specifically because that’s unfair), then it’s worth the salary dump. I’m confident that one of our 20+ pitching prospects will turn into a decent closer soon.

h27kim
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Rallymanatee

Huston Street was good for a bit…until he signed a big extension

Rallymanatee
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  h27kim

Ah yes, how could I forget Huston Street!

Awungsauce
Member
5 days ago

If we shuffle the moves a bit, we have:

  1. Marsh for Moniak and Jadiel Sanchez
  2. Thor for Tucker Davidson
  3. Iggy for O’Toole and Jesse Chavez

It’s definitely a short-term downgrade, but we cut a bunch of salary and have guys who could end up with roughly equal production in 2023. We basically exchanged a closer for a catcher.

Overall, I’ll give it a C+. Not terrible, not great, just ehh…

JackFrost
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Awungsauce

Uh, who is going to close in 2023 ??

Rallymanatee
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I could be ready. If I start a throwing program now, I could possibly get into the 60mph fastball range with a curve that I can’t throw for a strike anymore.

Halo71
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5 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Like that will matter

steelgolf
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Jesse Chavez? 😆

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

With advanced knowledge closers are easy to replace.

JackFrost
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Don’t know that I agree with that.

MLB annals are littered with guys who were very good in the 6th and 7th inning but failed miserably as Closers. It takes not just really good stuff but a special mentality.

For example, if you feel you can just throw Quijada in that role and have him thrive I think you are sadly mistaken.

Last edited 5 days ago by JackFrost
Charles Sutton
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Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Showdown between Loup and Tepera next spring.

Cowboy26
Legend
5 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Eric Torres

JackFrost
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

 🙄 

DowningDude
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

hahaha! 😀

Oski_Bear
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Ben Joyce

Halo71
Trusted Member
5 days ago

The Angels got rid of a mediocre (at best) closer, got the Braves to pay all of his salary, and actually got something in return. This is a great deal.

JakeTaylor
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Halo71

Yep!

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