Angels send Thor to Philly after all

Noah Syndergaard is heading to the Phillies despite what news outlets said just an hour ago. He will be with Marsh again.

Mickey fits well for Disneyland

This is a significant trade as it jettisons a rental for something. Mickey is an outfielder, so it now obvious who will be playing the OF now that Marsh is gone. Hopefully he can take on CF.

The other prospect is Jadiel Sanchez.

2 OF

Sanchez is another OF, and one that is far younger than Mickey. Maybe HE is the CF of the future.

The trade deadline is now passed, but some more trades may be announced shortly as they are finalized. Altogether, if we see this as a 2 for 3, it is much easier to swallow, even though Marsh was my 3rd favorite current Angel.

However, considering Mickey’s not so stellar MLB performance, this may go down as one of the worst trade deadlines in recent years for the Angels.

Only time will tell.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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4 months ago

The Angels definitely lost the most hair today with Thor and Marsh leaving

2002heaven
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4 months ago

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Where incompetent GM’s and farm system directors live.
 💩  💩  💩  😢  😠 

2002heaven
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4 months ago

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Perry is fucking terrible…….. 💩  💩  😠  😢 

Last edited 4 months ago by 2002heaven
Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Perry gets a B+ grade for dumping $59M in salary obligations.

The players he acquired move the grade to a C.

The Padres are a small market team and their owner is committed to winning. It must be nice….

Fansince1971
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4 months ago

Go Pads. I’m excited to have a local team to be excited about

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Ungggg. Mickey Moniak. Gross. I actually like Jadiel Sanchez though. Looked at everything I could find on him while @ lunch…. he could be really good….

“But durr Angels no derrvelper prospuurcts!”

F*** off.

GonFishin
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4 months ago

It’s ok, I’m sure Jeremy Reed will fix Mickey.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  GonFishin

??? From the Dick’s Sporting Goods he’ll be working at next year?

Watch, just to spite me Moniak’s gonna hit .400 next year.

Last edited 4 months ago by gitchogritchoffmypettis
2002heaven
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4 months ago
Reply to  GonFishin

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Grady Fuson from Moneyball movie telling Billy Beane where he can stick his analytics BS…….LOL!!!

Last edited 4 months ago by 2002heaven
JakeTaylor
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4 months ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Jeremy gonna bump up that K rate from 28% to 58%!

2002heaven
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4 months ago

Next year we’ll draft 20 DH’s to replace Ohtani
Good Gawd!!!!!!!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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4 months ago

Sanchez has shuttled between rookie ball and low A for two seasons. He’s more of a project than prospect.

Thor and D-Cell were salary dumps

Last edited 4 months ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
zz28
4 months ago

It looks like we didn’t have to pay any of Thor’s remaing salary

Rallymanatee
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4 months ago
Reply to  zz28

That’s good. What was it, like 7M left? Every little bit helps.

Jeff Joiner
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4 months ago
Reply to  zz28

That only benefits the team if Arte invests that $7 million or so into next year’s team. Had we paid some of Thor’s salary we might’ve gotten a real prospect back not just AAA depth.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yeah odds are its just paring down losses on 2022 and won’t be re-distributed forward.

Last edited 4 months ago by ihearhowie3.0
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

It’s been discussed some on here. Attendance is down. Real attendance is probably WAY down. It was down last year with some games lost to Covid. 2020 was a total loss. This year also lost some games to the strike.

So many folks have wished Arte would lose money cause “that’ll show him”, and it will, but at least in the short term I think we’re gonna see some tightening of the wad…. then maybe even a sale to a huge corporate tight wad. Fun.

But maybe we’ll luck out and get sold to some secret drug dealer front owners like the Padres have.

But for now? Hurray, Arte’s getting his comeuppance! Enjoy Squid at short again next year…

Gah I wish the FO could just burn the whole roster down.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Arte investing in the 2023 roster. That’s some funny stuff, Jeff

Marshallx89
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4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I doubt Arte looks at the 2023 budget from that perspective.

Jeff Joiner
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4 months ago

More of a salary dump than anything. Kind of short sighted IMO.

We did get a guy drafted first overall at one point. Not bad for 3 mo the of a high cost mid rotation arm.

Rallymanatee
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4 months ago

Mickey Moniak’s K% in AAA was 28%. He’ll fit right in. 101 Ks in 365 ABs.

tanana40
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4 months ago
Reply to  Rallymanatee

We are working off the premise that strikeouts are better than hitting into a double play. 🙂

Cowboy26
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4 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

Thats because we still have residual PTSD left over from Grandpa.

Rallymanatee
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4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Remember how we were supposed to retain Pujols for another 10 years as a coach or consultant after he retired? Lol

FungoAle
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4 months ago

Honestly, Thor was never going to bring back anything decent. A rental and no longer a power pitcher. Moniak was just a toss in.

smithy610
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4 months ago

Tucker Davidson is the Braves #5 prospect

tanana40
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4 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

His MLB numbers are limited and have been just okay at best. His MILB numbers are good but he is 26 years old so it is time for him to move up from being a prospect.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

The Braves farm is picked over due to promotions

smithy610
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Well, that was a whirlwind 3+ hours.

Two surprise trades and one expected trade.

smithy610
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4 months ago

WOW

The Braves pulled off a massive buzzer-beater just before the deadline, acquiring closer Raisel Iglesias from the Angels in exchange for pitching prospect Tucker Davidson and righty Jesse Chavez, reports Robert Murray of FanSided (Twitter link). Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets that the Braves will pay the remainder of Iglesias’ contract — a four-year, $58MM deal that covers the 2022-25 seasons.

Mia
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Mia
4 months ago

Iggy to the braves!

tanana40
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mia

Whoa!

El_Duderino
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mia

Looks like a simple salary dump. I’m cool wit it.

ryanfea
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4 months ago
Reply to  El_Duderino

Getting money off the books that Arte wants to give to Ohtani

Crcnme20
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mia

yeah i just saw that to. He’s gone.

Mia
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Mia
4 months ago
Reply to  Crcnme20

Jesse Chavez comes back to SoCal lmao

Rallymanatee
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mia

Best looking pitcher in baseball, except for maybe Urias on the Dodgers.

ihearhowie3.0
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mia

I expect him to be good on a competitive team. Feels like he’s good when the juice is flowing, bad when its not a save situation or the team sucks and nothing matters.

Mia
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Mia
4 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

A real pitching coach and system should help him regain his form.

Rooting for him.

Cowboy26
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mia

So why was he traded here?

JakeTaylor
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mia

GOOD RIDDANCE!

Mia
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Mia
4 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

Less than a year after his massive extension. Lol.

JakeTaylor
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mia

Never cared for the extension to begin with, tbh. Dude gives up too many homers. Was his issue last season and this season.

JackFrost
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4 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

People have very short memories around here; Raisel was excellent for us last season…

JakeTaylor
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4 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Never said he wasn’t. I just think he gives up too many long balls. Both with the Reds and with us. Just wasn’t a fan of giving him a 4yr deal.

Last edited 4 months ago by JakeTaylor
2002heaven
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4 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

still isn’t Josh Hader.
BULLPENS DON’T MATTER TO BAD TEAMS……….SHHHHH, WE’RE A BAD TEAM

JackFrost
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Lol.

Nobody is Josh Hader but Josh Hader.

Rallymanatee
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4 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

He HR/9 was 1.4 last year and 1.3 this year. Not amazing but not terrible. Not even close to worst on the team.

JakeTaylor
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4 months ago
Reply to  Rallymanatee

Still he’s your closer and being paid the most in the pen, the numbers should be better.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  JakeTaylor

How does he stack up for HR/9 vs the other MLB closers this year?

Any idea?

Rallymanatee
Trusted Member
3 months ago

Of the closers who have more saves than Iggy, only Josh Hader (1.8 yikes!) and Liam Hendricks (1.26) have the same or higher HR/9 rate. So I guess Iggy is up there. Pagan, Trivino, and Sewald also have higher HR/9 rates but have fewer saves.

smithy610
Trusted Member
4 months ago

So in essence, it was Thor and Marsh for O’Hoppe, Moniak and Sanchez.

Dinkycreek
Newbie
4 months ago

Are these two that we got for Thor better than a bucket of balls?

JakeTaylor
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Dinkycreek

No

smithy610
Trusted Member
4 months ago

I guess the one disappointment that I had was Raisel’s name was out there but no trade materialized.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

Maybe more interested parties in offseason. Or we keep our closer.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

NVM he got traded to Atlanta!

smithy610
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

What????!!!

ryanfea
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

We get Tucker Davidson and Jesse Chavez (again) and in return Atlanta takes the whole contract

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Excellent. Best move of the day.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Ugh. Don’t like that. That’s an Arte move – cost cutting and sacrificing patience for a better return.

ryanfea
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Oh it’s definitely so he has more money to offer Ohtani. Don’t think it will work though

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Salary dump. It makes sense.

ryanfea
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

He was traded to the Braves

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
4 months ago

Feels like the Baretto trade. Former big hype prospect, probably meh.

At least we know we’re like a year away from Adell getting us a rental #3 pitcher.

nishiogawakun
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Lol, when you put it like that…

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
4 months ago

In 124 innings in center this year he has a 1.000 fielding percentage but his batting is atrocious.

Cowboy26
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4 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

TrAdition!

GonFishin
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

It’s a good deal for both. Don’t mind this return from Perry at all and actually makes me feel better if Moniak plays right now. We can afford giving Moniak ABs since the alternative is just as stinky.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Really? we better hope that Moniak finds an elixir. Cause Sanchez looks like just a throw in. he’s 21 year old outfielder at low A with a .286 OBP. Hell our system is burdened with a shit ton of these types of prospects. We Would have been better off just getting a couple of orders of cheese steaks to feed Perry and our fat ass coaches.

SScott
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

So cool

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

Moniak is a prospect? 😂😂😂

Oski_Bear
Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Kinda like Marsh is still a prospect

SScott
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Oski_Bear

As much as Marsh has struggled, he’s still performed way better than Moniak has

Oski_Bear
Member
4 months ago

So Thor and Marsh to the Phillies for Mickey Moniak, Jadiel Sanchez, and Logan O’Hoppe.

What does the trade evaluator say for this overall transaction?

Cowboy26
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4 months ago
Reply to  Oski_Bear

Are ya sure you really want to know?

GonFishin
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Oski_Bear

Not bad in my personal opinion.

tanana40
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4 months ago
Reply to  Oski_Bear

Might be tough to calculate since Marsh and Thor have an established MLB stat line and of the other three, only one has limited MLB experience.