LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Bird’s the Word

Twelve are suspended, nine of which are in the Angels organization.

Matt Duffy left Sunday’s game with lower back tightness. Matt Thaiss got called up. The Angels claimed Dillon Thomas off waivers and designated Kyle Barraclough for assignment. Austin Warren and Patrick Sandoval visited kids at a local children’s hospital.

Jesse Winker apologized to the fans for the double bird. He says that is all he is going to apologize for. Marco Gonzales says the Angels are “classless.” Here is what Phil Nevin had to say about the situation. (video link) This is a pretty good angle to view the fight. The video is short but it shows how quickly things escalated. Here is the Jomboy commentary.

The Kansas City Royals just traded first baseman/Designated Hitter Carlos Santana to the Mariners. Speaking of Kansas City, Zack Grienke remains weird.

Ronald Acuna Jr. fouled a ball off his foot on Saturday and can’t put any weight on it. X-Rays were negative but the braves are still figuring out his status going forward.

The Blue Jays signed Sergio Romo to a major league deal.

Fernando Tatis Jr. is fifth in All Star voting for the National League shortstop position even though he has not played a game this year.

David Blitzer bought a minority stake in the Cleveland Guardians.

Watch Pablo Sandoval obliterate a catcher in a home plate collision down in Mexico.

MLB won’t charge the Athletics a relocation fee if they move to Las Vegas.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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1 year ago

Real “smart” for Rendon to get involved in the brawl after having the wrist surgery. Since he’s done for the year anyway what the hell’s he care. Might as well get involved and show how “tough” he is. Homey’s making a guaranteed $35 MILLION per year 7 yrs/$245MM. So he’ll have plenty of time to sit on his ass…

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
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Cuda find someone who cares about your lame comment other than your boy friend?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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55yearsangelsfan
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1 year ago

Just when I was getting excited by the Trash Pandas, the first half winners, ..
they get no-hit

Twebur
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1 year ago

they haven’t played well since they clinched the first half….

Cowboy26
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1 year ago

Did they lose?

rosstrade
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1 year ago

When the brawl started, and the guys from the bullpen ran towards the infield, I found myself looking for Percy to be leading the charge……

I think it’s proof that I’ve been locked in a time vacuum where I can’t leave the year 2002 because the Angels have pretty much sucked every year since.

Arte Moreno sucks…..

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  rosstrade

2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 & 2009 were pretty damn good

BruinsAngelsKings
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

How dare you bring facts into this discussion.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Fansince1971
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1 year ago

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This is about the emotional age of baseball players in a fight.

bradllee424
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1 year ago

Time for this season to end. I have seen enough.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
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Chou Chou. see you next year Braddllleee

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

MarineLayer
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1 year ago

Because we’re the Angels this always happens:

Angels placed RHP Archie Bradley on the 15-day injured list with a right elbow fracture.
Bradley suffered the injury during Sunday’s brawl with the Mariners when he fell over the dugout railing. He is expected to miss multiple months, if not the remainder of the 2022 season. The 29-year-old reliever leaves behind a 4.82 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, and 15/7 K/BB ratio in 18 2/3 innings of relief with the Angels.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I laughed so hard at this it scared my co-worker.

We should try to get Coilin Moran from the Reds.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago

Leaves behind his 4.82 ERA? What about Veronica?

bradllee424
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1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

We don’t have the brightest players on the planet. The term for them would be dumb jocks.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  bradllee424

well after watching the Jesse Wanker shit show last Sunday, I think our players would qualify as Astrophysicists

Last edited 1 year ago by Cowboy26
55yearsangelsfan
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1 year ago
Reply to  bradllee424

Not knowing the particulars of how he managed to fall over the rail, we could be getting a bit harsh here. He may have been forced over by the scrum. If he got stuck between a tight pushing mob and the rail, maintaining balance could be nearly impossible.
I have no idea exactly how it happened, but I’m sorry for him.

max
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max
1 year ago

I believe it was at the beginning, he tried to hop the rail to get on the field.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Yeah, there’s video. He strait biffed it.

YOUknowulovetheIE
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1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Definitely won’t miss his teenager earrings

Cowboy26
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1 year ago

Mikey do! Now Just one step away….. https://twitter.com/slbeesradio/status/1541890251219554306

Twebur
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Can he pitch from the bullpen?

FungoAle
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1 year ago
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What a shitty looking line-up outside Adell. We should promote Steve Klauke, very good announcer…bye Patty’O

55yearsangelsfan
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1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Not sure why so many on this site are clamoring for Adell. He’s hitting .213 with an OPS of .841, with 40 strike outs in 108 at bats at SLC. He needs to perform a lot better than that at AAA before he should be called up.

SScott
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1 year ago

He seems to have turned in to a HR or bust hitter.

bradllee424
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Bring him up now. Don’t want to see another game of Wade.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Wow, with the Duffman’s back we’re now up to 2 collateral injuries from Sundays Soiree

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
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We really need Austin Warren back and healthy

FungoAle
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1 year ago
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Addition by subtraction

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Let’s hope this doesn’t lead to a Halloween reunion.

bradllee424
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Who else are they going to put in there? Too early for a trade yet.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  bradllee424

Warren just started a rehab assignment at SL so he should be back real soon. Maybe Geraldo Reyes who’s also at SL? Too bad Buttrey cant get his stuff together or this would be a great opportunity for him.

The Angels also have a couple of 2021 relief pitcher draftees at Rocket City who have done pretty well. RHP Luke Murphy and LHP Eric Torres so at some point they could be options as well.

jcstein
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1 year ago

I don’t understand how anyone can really blame the Angels for showing that they’re willing to retaliate (especially after the Scoscia era where no teams worried about retaliation at all). One of Trout’s only cold zones is up and in, and that has led to him getting hit A LOT due to pitchers not hitting their spot. It’s led to a lot of injury scares for Trout.

Marcotor
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1 year ago
Reply to  jcstein

Hit A LOT as compared to whom? It’s one of the few categories where Mike is not near, or leading the league. Contreras leads with 14, Mike T has 7. You could look it up.

Last edited 1 year ago by Marcotor
YOUknowulovetheIE
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1 year ago
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I mean, he did say since the sosh era. If you’re only looking at this season’s stats that’s probably the issue

jcstein
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1 year ago
Reply to  Marcotor

I didn’t say Trout had the most HBP, I said that he’s had a lot of injury scares. Go back to April of this year, or 2018 against Texas. Or better yet, you could look it up and see that Trout’s cold zone is up and in on the strike zone, and he’s constantly hit due to pitchers not hitting their spot there.

Here’s a start:

https://www.mlb.com/video/mike-trout-hit-by-pitch-XmLrO1 (2019)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2022/04/17/angels-mike-trout-hit-pitch-hand-xrays-negative/7351703001/ (2022)

https://www.mlb.com/video/mike-trout-hit-by-pitch-zhlb8O (Sep 2017)

https://www.mlb.com/video/mike-trout-hit-by-pitch-Cn799q (May 2017)

https://www.mlb.com/news/young-fan-reacts-to-mike-trout-hit-by-pitch (2021)

AnAngelsFan
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1 year ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Career greats: Trout (90), Ruth (43), Bonds (106), Mays (44), Cobb (94), Wagner (125). Considering Trout’s career is only half over, he does seem to be getting beaned more often than other greats.

Now, he’s nowhere near players known for leaning out over the plate like Biggio (285), or guys like A-Rod (176), and Jeter (170), but 90 is still a lot and Trout has a chance to approach the high 100s by the end of his career. He’s certainly on-pace to be top 25 all time for HBP. And we know none of the pitches thrown at Trout are because he’s an A-hole. The same can’t be said for other HBP leaders.

This particular season Trout isn’t among the leaders, but he’s also already been injured once from being hit and is clearly sick and tired of it. However, between 2011 – 2019 he was hit 81 times, good for 10th on the leaderboard for that time period. That’s a far cry from Rizzo’s 145 during the same time period, but again, Rizzo is known for leaning into pitches to take it on the arm.

Now let’s narrow the focus to top 20 WAR players during that span. Trout is the clear leader in 2011-2019 with 81 HBP. Russell Martin has 78, McCutchen and Feeman have 65. At the other end, Betts has 19, Cabrera has 21. In the middle we see names like Donaldson with only 45 and Posey with 38.

In sum, Trout is being hit more than other current and former top players. Part of that is probably that Trout’s weakness is perceived as being high and inside, but part of it is likely that teams feel free to throw high and tight to Trout because he’s such a nice guy that he doesn’t charge the mound and the Angels don’t retaliate.

I’d wager Trout doesn’t like the idea of retaliation. I’d also wager he decided enough was enough and agreed when the team discussed having Wantz throw at someone.

rosstrade
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1 year ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

good analysis and info

BruinsAngelsKings
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1 year ago
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When your stars get thrown at, at their head no less, you have to retaliate. Not protecting your star players is soft.

Furthermore, if you are pitching to that gnome altuve, or any other cheating asstros, you are REQUIRED to bean those cheating fuckers every time!

Fansince1971
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1 year ago
Reply to  jcstein

If this team was something like 15 games over .500 and suspensions would potentially impact a postseason appearance- Nevin may have thought twice. But in this situation with Trout almost being beaned, it had to be done.

JackFrost
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1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Totally agree. It HAD to be done.

RexFregosi
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1 year ago

not passing judgment on Coach Nevin’s decisions lol, but i’d rather have knuckleheads for coaches than knuckleheads for players.

we got a decent look into the emotions and intelligence of the heart of the seatte lineup for the next few years Sunday- those guys smell a lot like 4th place toads

El_Duderino
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

That really sucks for him. Hopefully they can get it figured out once and for all.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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1.29 WHIP for the Cardinals but the OLIGARCH was to chirp for I guess bullpen arms make sag the win again! I gotta poop! 😂  😂  😁  💩  👈  💪 

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Also! Yes. Ram this wins into my butt for a holiday!
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I need a towel to wipe all this winning off of me! The Oligarch can’t dance to trance even if his it’s last chance! 💩  💪  🍆  😮  🖕 

WallyChuckChili
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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perfect

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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When David Blitzer finally has majority ownership of the Guardians in a few years everything is gonna change.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago

Thats what the Devils and 76ers fans also thought. But, of course, there’s still no escaping this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDJKpnqTsgk

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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You mean Wolf Blitzer?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I’m willing to let you all know exactly what Arte, Perry, Cervix, DerPo, Nevin, all the coaches and all of the players were thinking during the fight. Would anyone be interested in my incredibly accurate insights into what was goin on in the hearts and minds of all of these people? It will be a 70,000 word fan post. None of it will be bullshit. Anyone who opposes me will not be a true baseball fan.

Sound good?

El_Duderino
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1 year ago

As long as you spend 15 hours on it. No less.

MarineLayer
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1 year ago

Yes, please hold forth.

Twebur
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1 year ago

I’d like to punch Cervix in ‘Da Face and write about my feelings.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
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Does he have the most punchable face or what?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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This sounds good, reasoned and reasonable. I would also like to subscribe to your newsletter and Almanac.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Please, also follow me on Rumble, OutCast, SocialCave and Google+ for more totally made up insights where I speak the unspoken truth and inner thoughts about people I’ve never met or even messaged. I’ll also throw in relationship advice, coach you on how to play sports, and provide healthy organic recipes.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago

You got it but where do we deliver the Pizza too?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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11000 Wilshire Blvd #1700, Los Angeles, CA 90024

red floyd
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1 year ago

I thought it was going to 1060 W. Addison St. Chicago IL 60613?

Twebur
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1 year ago

Any new insight from Shohei Ohtani’s mother?

WallyChuckChili
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1 year ago

You have me going till I seen…

None of it will be Bullshit.

YOUknowulovetheIE
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1 year ago

Anyone have a good site I can upload photos to create a url I can use? I used photobucket in the past.

angelslogic
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1 year ago

Imgur

red floyd
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1 year ago
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Imgur?

YOUknowulovetheIE
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1 year ago
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Is the app easier to use or the site?

red floyd
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1 year ago

Site. But that may just be me.

Last edited 1 year ago by red floyd
MarineLayer
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1 year ago

How ridiculous it is the way the league handed out punishment to the actual fight participants. All the action took place in front of the Angels dugout. When Seattle attacked, how else were they supposed to defend themselves. Why no suspension for Seattle’s manager who was in the middle of the scrum. Stupid and insane. That said, I’m so glad we finally defended ourselves and sent a message to the rest of baseball no more headhunting Mike Trout.

AnAngelsFan
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1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I agree Scott Servais should have a 2-3 game suspension. Also, Iglesias probably only deserves one for his tantrum, because I don’t think he was actually involved in the fight.

The rest seem to be okay. Nevin planned it – 10; Winker was the initial aggressor – 7; Rendon threw the first “punch” – 5; Crawford was overall probably the most violent – 5; Tepera was the most involved combatant from the Angels – 3; Wantz deliberately threw at 2 players – 3; and down the line.

Servais was somewhere between the Angels’ coaches up to Tepera level of involvement, so 2-3 would be appropriate.

Last edited 1 year ago by AnAngelsFan
benjiface
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1 year ago
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I would agree, Servais should have gotten a game or two, I don’t know how he avoided suspension when three Ångels coaches were suspended.

After that, I think the league got the rest of the suspensions right.

MarineLayer
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1 year ago
Reply to  benjiface

A manager is supposed to be a peacemaker, not a rioter. He deserves about 7 games.

Last edited 1 year ago by MarineLayer
PedroCerrano
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1 year ago
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Unless of course your Manager orchestrates the entire thing.

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MarineLayer
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1 year ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

It’s fine our manager got punished. That did not give their manager carte Blanche to do whatever he wants and orchestrate violence against the other team.

PedroCerrano
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1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I agree, at this point I’m just having fun with it.

MarineLayer
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1 year ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

No worries. It’s all good. I’m loved the fight, I just take issue with how the overlords seemed to take it disproportionally take it out on us.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

I think the Nevin suspension’s a bit long because he so obviously set out to start a fight…. which is usually a bad idea, but was probably what needed to be done in this case.

I think the Sthailers were sad that we hit Upton and decided to test the Angels every which way they could. I’m all for letting some stuff go, but if they are gonna set out to see how much they can get away with it’s time to hit a man in the ass with a baseball.

All the “what? They didn’t even hit Trout?” stuff is crap. You could tell from how he acted in the dugout Winker and friends were good to go, and they were good to go cause they knew they’d been screwing around and asking for it in the previous games. We hit Upton, so the Semen don’t like us. They forced the issue, so we fought. Even the MLB saw it coming, so they gotta make the punishment worse.

RexFregosi
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1 year ago
Reply to  benjiface

you can’t take his uni away for even a game, that’d be just too hurtful

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

not many remember the pajama fit servais threw here, but i do

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Cervix’s history here as JerrJerr’s AGM involved stealing internal player development documents from the St Louis Cardinals, failing to successfully implement them and then throwing a hissy fit when Sosh called bullshit. 
The way things are going, it looks like JerrJerr and His BFF are heading towards an epic crash and burn. Only this time they wont have anyone to blame except each other.

angelslogic
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1 year ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

The guy with a wrist problem threw the first punch? Brilliant!

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Well it wasn’t exactly a punch , but he did use his one good hand

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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It was a slap, not a punch. I’d bet this had more force than what Rendon threw…

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RexFregosi
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1 year ago

it was an effective blow to the mug of an asshole to stfu posthaste

there was no intent to do anything but just shut his trap immediately and it did.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Why do I feel like I need to read something really stupid and redundant before I see this? Couldn’t you have worked in an “Arte needs to sell the team…” before you added hot dog girl? I feel agitated and nervous now.

JackFrost
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1 year ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

But Crawford only got 2 or 3 games, I think. They definitely went very easy on him. MLB again is clearly showing their anti-Angels bias in the handling of this fiasco.

Eric_in_Portland
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Crawford 5 games. Servais is the puzzler.

MarineLayer
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1 year ago

I think MLB needs to take a closer look at the film if they can only find 3 Seattle perps.

JackFrost
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1 year ago

Okay, I went back and checked and I had misread it. You are right, it is five games.

MarineLayer
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

A wrong hand slap from a cripple should get less than a closed fist punch.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

It’s cause he was first to the face.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago

Yep Tony totally violated Rule no. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3d8EP-HPUo

Marcotor
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1 year ago

But Rendon is a thief and lazy without GRIT or fire. I know this, because I have read it here over and over… and over… and over…

Last edited 1 year ago by Marcotor
WallyChuckChili
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1 year ago
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What my Lyle eye read, don’t lie!

red floyd
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1 year ago
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Will the suspension affect his duties as Speaker of the Assembly?

Last edited 1 year ago by red floyd
FungoAle
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1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Did Servais actually throw a punch? Being in the middle of the scrum does not necessarily equate to a punch being thrown. Dont get me wrong, cannot stand the guy. From the magical Jomboy video, we only see him coming up from the ground.

WallyChuckChili
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1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

What did Chiti do, besides hold a player back like e every coach did?

LanaBanana
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1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Didn’t the Mariners have 5 actual position players ejected from the game? Did only 2 of them receive suspensions?

AnAngelsFan
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1 year ago

We are going to see a lot of Tepera and Iglesias before their appeals are finalized. Should be a nice little rest for them when their suspensions come due.

Last edited 1 year ago by AnAngelsFan
Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

yep days off for your main setup guy and closer is very unmanly anyways.

WallyChuckChili
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1 year ago

It was pointed out that none of our hitting coaches got suspended. I seen them swing and miss, a lot of swing and misses.

Of course they didn’t get suspended.
What? You thought they could hit?

Brent
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1 year ago

The jomboy video (which is banned in South Korea, so had to use a VPN to watch it) on the fight is so good if you have 15 min to spare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFUawXZhnlc

Last edited 1 year ago by Brent
WallyChuckChili
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1 year ago
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This is linked in today’s links.

Brent
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1 year ago

iiiiiiii’m an idiot. My bad.

benjiface
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1 year ago
Reply to  Brent

Brent should lose his Trusted Member status. Back down to ‘Newbie’

Brent
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1 year ago
Reply to  benjiface

::shame shame shame::

benjiface
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1 year ago
Reply to  Brent

Haha

red floyd
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1 year ago
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PedroCerrano
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1 year ago
Reply to  Brent

It was a pretty good watch outside of the Upton stuff which seemed like a reach. I don’t think he or anyone else thought that was anything but a slipped pitch due to a poorly rubbed up ball.