LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Opening Day Eve

Good morning Angels fans, ready for the season to start? So am I! Have some links!

Angels News

The Angels lost yesterday in the last spring training game. I blame Andrew for this, it is his entire fault.

We did get to see new stuff in the Freeway Series however, the umpires explaining replay to the fans, and the new catcher pitcher electronic sign system. Also a series win still counts for something, right?

Shohei Ohtani is the face of Opening Day. Literally, MLB even says so.

MLB approved

Another pitcher is even more fired up, however, as Thor is bringing the hammer down.

Woah! Too bad it is fake. 🙁
Twitter is dangerous

What is unclear, however, is the Opening Day Roster as that is still a mystery. Second Base is still unknown, with Jose Rojas and Michael Stefanic making strong cases to be on the April 28 man roster.

Now that Justin Upton is cut, it will be Trout, Marsh and Adell in the outfield. Trout has stayed in CF, and says he will improve his defense to deserve staying there. Please don’t hurt yourself.

The Angels get another guy on a MiLB deal. Monte Harrison was a top prospect that Milwaukie gave to Miami for Yelich, so maybe the Angels can fix him.

Around Baseball

Who are the top players in Baseball? MLB Network has their list, Foolish Baseball has his list, and Fangraphs has a bunch of lists.

Speaking of Fangraphs, they like Angels pitching, ranking the bullpen 6th, and the rotation 14th in all of MLB. That does not compute.

MLB wants to let their players have fun. Or, rather, say they do. I do not trust them right now, especially Texas managers…

A reminder that Jeter was a bad defender. I knew it…

Rookie pitchers the last 5 years. Wait, Angels are 8th in FWAR? HOW?!

Todd Frazier is retiring. Odd that he never ended up with the Angels. Also Drew Butera has retired as well.

Brewers are without their catcher as he is suspended 80 games. He said it was by accident, but you have to check your drugs before you take them, you know that.

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes!

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BushLeague
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2 years ago

Do we know who got the final roster spots yet? I can’t find it anywhere. Hoping Stefanic makes it!

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  BushLeague

Unfortunately I think our dream ( at least Temporarily) is going down the drain

LanaBanana
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I read according to Jeff Fletcher that Taylor Ward was put on the IL. He left the game early on Tuesday night. Something about a rib cage.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

He finally gets his big break and IL, not a good start I’d say. Hope the Plumber is added. Wade can to the 4th OF’er too.

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago

Likely Rojas with some Wade, Duffy, Fletch, on the side.

Sure hope this doesn’t mean Rengifo has already deplaned and ready for tomorrow night.

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

Rib cage muscle and cartilage….that always heals fast (not)…see you in July Ward.

Next!

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Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago

I’m feeling a lot better about the team this year than I have in several years.

The last several years we’ve been praying a reclamation project and an innings eater could be league average. This year we are hoping for Thor to be a decent version of Thor.

The last several years we’ve had cast offs and waiver claims fighting for Opening Day bullpen spots. This year we have guys that pitched high leverage spots for us last year heading to AAA.

We’ve been waiting for the Trout/Marsh/Adell outfield for years. It is here.

The middle infield is a bit of a mess, but there are plenty of 2B and SS who will be free agents next year, meaning there should be plenty of trade targets if we need one.

In the meantime I’m keeping a close eye on our pitching development in the minors. Davis Daniel, Luke Murphy, and the rest of the class of 2021.

Twebur
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Another big key to this season will be the offensive development and production of
“Fatty and the MarDell’s”.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago

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Whut if we picked the rong Univ of Louisville pitcher?
Sorry Reid

DowningDude
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2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

I think you are “REID”ing too much into this.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Reed Detmirs=Jo Adele
Anuther damm CTPG overrated player again.
Hansel Robles, Jose Iglesias, Parker Bridwell, Dylan Bundy, Ty Buttrey…….wouldn’t be the first time. PS I wasn’t fooled by any of them!
 💪  💪  💪  💪 

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

which team do you root for? Just curious.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago

I used to root for the Angels up until December 2019 (Winter of Antonio Ren-Done and no pitching signed there after). I’m kind of like a Cuban American waiting for the other Castro brother to well…….you know.
I just want the 75 yr old Oligarch to just STFU and step away from ruining this team since 2011.

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

So, if you don’t root for them any more, then why the hell are you here?

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

So would you say that to a Brown’s fan. The man’s a very bad owner. Do you root for the Rams now that they’re back in LA and just won the Superbowl?

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

What does that have to do with anything? This is an ANGELS FAN SITE. By your own admission, you are no longer an Angels fan:

I used to root for the Angels up until December 2019

So why are you here bitching? Also, to quote from the Community Guidelines (you can find them under “Welcome!” in the masthead, at https://crashingthepearlygates.com/community-guidelines/)

PESSIMISTIC? Bitch once, then offer a solution. Don’t bitch twice, it’s alright.

Last edited 2 years ago by red floyd
2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

We’ll see if Perry is truly in charge.
Every big money signing was the work of the 75 yr old Oligarch, especially Mike Trout and Anthony Rendon’s deals both and Eppler was a mere footnote. I say Perry will follow in Reagins and Dipo’s footsteps. I seriously doubt that the Noah Syndergaard signing was Perry’s idea (I just can’t see Perry being that damm stupid, especially for $21M. The least the 75 yr old Oligarch could’ve done was sign him for half that).
So him and Justin Upton are both eating up $42M in team payroll………how damm absurd is that? Donald T Sterling on the baseball diamond.
How is he better than Bob Nutting……are the Pirates getting a big payout like the Oligarch?

Last edited 2 years ago by 2002heaven
Cowboy26
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Maybe you need a new sport. Have you tried axe catching?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

You recently learned the word OLIGARCH didn’t you.

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Twebur
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2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Aren’t the Brewers one of your perfect, model franchises?

https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1511811159590014977?s=20&t=EzeVMS5L06Sd_KjQ6haXSw

Last edited 2 years ago by Twebur
Jeff Joiner
Editor
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2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

I rather Stan the Brewers. One of the smallest markets in MLB, always use all of the revenue sharing money on payroll.

that said, even the best front offices have a huge whiff factor on first draft picks and this shows it.

DowningDude
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2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

been away a few months. Good to see you still know more than all of us combined.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

What if you picked the wrong age to quit school?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

What if I had become an ice pirate?

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2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

How about stopping the losing seasons dam break first!
 😠  😫  💩  💪  💪  💪  👈 

fishfarm
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

….aaaaaaand how do you suggest they do that? By NOT working on improving a clear weakness?

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

Where’s Bobby Miller?
BTW Lorenzen……..Inda werds of Larry David
Uhh……Idon’t think so!
 💪  💪  💪  👈 

Twebur
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2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

AL folk……..

2002heaven
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2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

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Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Albuquerque

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago

He is still in Albuquerque with Heaney on the big club roster….and
They are talking about AL Roy candidates.

Last edited 2 years ago by Twebur
red floyd
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2 years ago

Did you forget to make that left turn?

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

You’re dumb.

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Last edited 2 years ago by gitchogritchoffmypettis
2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago

rec…..one each

AdelitasBarTJ
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

Julio 100%. Kid is a STAR!

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago

dateline.wav – “Dateline…” 
The home opener is a sellout……

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

A lot of “Pro Plumber” talk!

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

Sorry, I didn’t get the memo, who’s the Plumber?

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  MarineLayer
ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Thanks I was wondering that myself  😀 

DowningDude
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

what a damn classic. They don’t make crappy commercials like they used to.

Last edited 2 years ago by DowningDude
red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I don’t have a copy of a phone book any more, or I’d look to see if he’s still in the white pages.

DowningDude
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

DuckDuckGo tells me AdeeDoo did a hostile takeover.

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

That must have been one of the evils lurking in my plumbing.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

 😂 

DowningDude
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

 😂  j/k… stephan also started AdeeDoo. Pretty crazy to own two of the cheesiest of the cheesy jingles

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

AmKing.wav – “I Am The King” (“Paul, The ‘King Of Big Screen'”)

DowningDude
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

Dunno, for Televisions, I was a Fred Rated fan… look at these gems of TV sets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moO8u9wS3J0
Atari 2600s Pitfall looked BOSS on these bad boys.

Last edited 2 years ago by DowningDude
Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I’ll raise you……Any car…any color

right.wav – Earl Scheib, he’ll paint any car for just 99.95: “Righhhhhhhhhhht.”

Last edited 2 years ago by Twebur
red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

And, of course, Cal Worthington and his dog, Spot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HJALwCNbco

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

I’ll take 1980’s Classic Car, Plumbing and electronic commercials for $2000 Alex

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Now THIS looks like a sick day when I was a kid. Price is Right with a Cal commercial…classic.

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Or, on a summer day. Love boat at 10AM. Cubs home game with Harry on WGN at 11:20. Pool time. Angel game. Home to drink. Bed. Run it back the next day.

Last edited 2 years ago by Twebur
Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

Exactly, but sub out Love Boat for MTV for my generation.

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

MTV was for nighttime viewing

Jim Atkins
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Skip past the Milton Bradley Battleship commercial and it’s the Firesign Theater from KPPC and KROQ doing a commercial for Jack Poet Volkswagen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rCY6StJNVU

MikeSalmon
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Narrator: And this was the moment when Mike Salmon realized Jim Atkins was “one of us.”

Cowboy26
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Actually sat next to him at an Angel game once. He seemed like a nice guy even for a flash in the pan

MikeSalmon
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Whoa! You sat next to Jack Poet Volkswagen at a game? Cool!

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Shadoe Stevens? Seemed like a cool dude the few times I saw him out of character on TV.

MikeSalmon
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

Let us not forget Crazy Gideon. Don’t you guys see? We’ve somehow run into ridiculously GOOD LUCK!: the guys who run the TV, stereo and appliance stores are ADMITTING they’re not of sound mind.

Pssst: I don’t wanna sound mean, but fer crissakes, if this isn’t the time to take advantage of Big $avings due to these guys being “inSAAAAANE!”, I don’t know what else to tell you.

Run, don’t walk to those places to stock up before the thoroughly sane take over those places.

You’re welcome. (Do I have to explain everything?)

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

There are a bunch of Jack Stephan plumbing in the (online) white pages.

https://www.whitepages.com/business/CA/Jack-Stephan

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Kars for Kids…..

We should start a GoFund me page to get that off the air!

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

I immediately change the channel, either radio or TV when that hideous song comes on.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Same. Just the mention of it has the song in my head, though, ha ha.

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Same here. That jingle makes me want to ram icepicks through my eardrums. We should ban Twebur just for mentioning that spot!

max
Trusted Member
max
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

same

FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Never gets old, funny stuff. This commercial burned into my brain during the evening hours of television. Like those Zamfir and the Magic Pan Flute commercials.

DowningDude
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

evening??? These were staples for daytime. I remember all the vocational commercials… here’s one – Control Data Institute:
https://vimeo.com/171928690

FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Zamfir was a midnight special, 11–3am, the horrifying sounds he made of his flute. Ok, I think the Stephan ones were also in the day.

MikeSalmon
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Don’t laff. I heard one guy went to Control Data, learned FORTRAN, and now pals around with Larry Ellison.

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

Props for getting the capitalization correct.

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

The haunting sounds and Master of the Pan Flute Zamfir

https://youtu.be/7ISe0fdoaPs

Last edited 2 years ago by Twebur
FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

That’s it! Coming home late from hitting the bars, this music would piece my skull. LOL.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

Yes there seems to finally be a crack in the team’s Anti plumber promotion policy.

Jessica DeLine
Admin
Super Member
2 years ago

Unfortunately that Thor quote is from a fake Twitter profile but I want to believe he said it anyway 🙂

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

Ha! Fake news!
But like you said, he was thinking it, so we can quote him on it.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago

Great line ” Nobody is afraid of them, their lead off hitter is a vegan!” 😂

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  steelgolf

He’s Weaver with a 20MPH faster fastball…..

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  steelgolf

Yeah. He just upped my approval of him by a few points. I like that Thor has shown up here and has obviously set up shop and determined “this is my team and I am getting behind them”. You don’t lay down statements like that unless you feel fairly invested in the guys you’re playing with.

Sure, he can leave in 6 months, but I’m glad he doesn’t seem to have a “just visiting” mindset.

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago

I 100% agree with you!

halofansince1978
Super Member
2 years ago

This year we’re an 83-85 win team.

We still do not have enough pitching.

Is that enough with expanded playoffs?

matthiasstephan
Super Member
2 years ago

Is it a quantity thing? (or quality? durability?).

How much pitching do we have, compared to say, any other team?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

Unlikely. The AL east is incredibly deep and could have both wildcard teams

Last edited 2 years ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I’d just like to invite the folks who are still sharing fresh and insightful takes like “I don’t think we have enough pitching” or “Buh buh but injuries….” to take a look at most of the teams ahead of us on those power rankings.

Other than maybe Milwaukee I don’t see any of those teams as having “enough” and not “having concerns about depth”. Maybe Toronto? But actually LOOK at their rosters. I’m not saying we’re not thin, or that we’re better than 14th in the rotation rankings. What I am saying is that just about everyone is thin, and the difference is pretty much just Lance Lynn (or Patrick Sandoval) turning out to be better than average instead of slightly below average. That and a couple DeGrom/Scherzer MLBTR injury posts.

And here, I’ll save some of you the typing, “Buh buh we’ve been hurt before…. after soooooo many yeeeeeaaaarrrrs….. “. OK, fine. The season will be a disaster. Enjoy your box of pink wine and a full slate of Lifetime Network movies. A coin landing on heads last year, and even the past 5 years, doesn’t increase the odds of the same coin landing on heads this flip, and aside from about 4 teams the pitching outcomes this year are a pretty major coin flip.

Play off races are gonna be TIGHT! This season’s probably gonna be awesome.

halofansince1978
Super Member
2 years ago

No need to defend my statement because down deep you know I’m right.

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago

So, 162-0 and we sweep our way to a glorious WS triumph!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

I’ll take that. But I’m more saying that there will be some playoff teams with fairly high staff WHIPs.

Sharkysurf
Member
2 years ago

Let’s go!!!!!

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
2 years ago

Finally someone with some balls on the team.

Love Trout more than any Angel ever but this is the type of personality that’s been missing in the team’s culture. Would love for Marsh and Adell to both pan out and bring a similar kind of confidence.

halofansince1978
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

We have had a few with stones…but not lately

Ryan
Grich
Baylor
Edmonds
Horseface
Napoli
Big Daddy
Weaver
Skip to Thor

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
2 years ago

Erstad

halofansince1978
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Absolutely

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

He’s gritty

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

He should be our team’s manager.

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago

And he’s veterany!

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

The entire 2002 squad was gritty, including GA!

Last edited 2 years ago by MarineLayer
red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

GA was too lazy to be gritty… or veterany, even though he was a veteran.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 years ago

Not sure I would put Edmonds & Big Daddy on that list. But would add:
Jim Fregosi
Frank Robinson
Troy Percival
Ersty
Rick Burleson
Torii Hunter
Brian Downing
Tony Phillips

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Cowboy26

Definately Percy. Nails through and through

halofansince1978
Super Member
2 years ago

Keep them coming.

I know there are more.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago

Fuck yeah. Never forget the game where Perceval was making a b-line hard from the outfield bullpen with his fellow relievers were 20-yards behind him. Dude had “I’m gonna kick your ass” written all over him.

halofansince1978
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Vladdy did the talking with his bat.

Being a dick works…ask me how.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago

Perceval too.

Of that list, Weaver, Lackey and Baylor standout as far as mouthing off to the opponents. Not so much the others. Edmunds was just a dick.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

I saw that quote and could just picture dudes on CtPG getn all moist and squishy. It’s nice to see Thor openly declare he does not like his opponent and intends to defeat them. Finally a real man for me to project my real manhood onto. If he stays healthy this should be fun.

SScott
Super Member
2 years ago

Here we go. I’m both nervous and excited about this season.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 years ago

This morning are you wondering about the health of Mike Trout? What do you think about the short range of his “Stomach Flu” keeping him working out in the Big A yesterday? He really needs to be in the Opening Day Line-Up don’t you think so too? He is the leader of the team and his being present in the line up changes how everyone is pitched to. Time will tell, but with Mike leading the way our future is bright for going all the way.

Fansince1971
Legend
2 years ago

I’d like to see Trout play 152 games-plus this season. He has played in 88 games over the last two seasons. For those math whizzes – thats 1/4 of the games of 2 regular seasons.

I personally am deflated every time he’s not in the lineup. Need to see him in there every day for a while. I presume if they were regular season games, he would have been playing with a stomach bug.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Well, that is misleading. Trout played in 53 of 60 games in 2020. (and I am no math whizz)

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago

Tommy John stomach surgery

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Code for Lipo and a tummy tuck……..because he’s Fat.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago

I heard he has scurvy and they have started him on a regimen of oranges and limes.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Then it is a good thing he is in Orange county,

Fansince1971
Legend
2 years ago

Thor our new Weaver? Time will tell.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

He’s not going to give us a deal…

admkir
Trusted Member
2 years ago

No one is going to give us a deal

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  admkir

We don’t need a deal because we’re so far under the cap. He just needs to go out and earn it.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 years ago

Good morning, especially we are that close to opening day. At last Spring Training is over and more good than bad is the result(s). Good – Ohtani is in midseason form, looking better than ever…..Anthony Rendon is looking hot, hot, hot, with the bat and he brings the leather……The most versatile OF in Angels history, the fastest OF in history as Adell, Marsh and Trouty are only going to get better together……Walsh is showing more confidence and I believe that by All Star Game will be greedy and not sharing 1B with anyone. He is a great fielder at 1B, maybe the best in the league and you know about the big bat……Fletcher maybe the most under rated player in the majors, glad he is on our side. He has been my favorite since he came up and nothing has changed……The final roster will be fun to see as we have Ward as 4th OF’er, and how do you pick from Wade, Bundy, Capt. Jack, Jose Rojas, the Plumber to play 2B and utility INF? These guys all play 2 or 3 spots each……Catcher is set with Stassi and Suzuki. Stassi looking to build on last season and Kurt looking to catch Shohei. Starting rotation is looking strong with Shohei starting off followed by Sandy (Sandoval), Thor (Syndergaard), Lorenzen, Suarez, Detmers and a great Bullpen, best in a long time. So grab your coffee and appreciate what PTP has put together and enjoy the 2022 edition of The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim put on a run for the Pennant.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
2 years ago

Bundy?

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago

Fastest outfield?

Trout, Bourjos, and Hula-Dula say hello.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
2 years ago

Wait, I thought Rendon was washed up?

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Well, he always has that Speaker of the Assembly gig to fall back on.

https://speaker.asmdc.org/

FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago

Attitude. Can matter a lot over the long haul of the season. Good job, Thor.