LA Angels Monday News Crash: Perry Series

It’s here! Starting today (at 8 am PST) we will be beginning our annual “If I Were Perry” series. Please see Rahul’s post for a discussion of our budget. As always, you are free to start a Fanpost whenever with the same subject matter, and we will post them periodically.

Jeff Passan certainly thinks that the signs point towards a lockout.

The Angels are currently in on lefty Eduardo Rodriguez.

Shohei Ohtani says that he feels down whenever the Angels lose (don’t we all!)

Has starting pitching changed forever?

Be prepared for award announcements this week! How many first place MVP votes will Shohei Ohtani receive?

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nishiogawakun
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11 days ago

https://twitter.com/talkinbaseball_/status/1460375750528450560?s=21

“The Los Angeles Angels are the only Major League Baseball team to have finished under .500 each of the last six seasons”

I guess I knew this at a subconscious level, but now that I read that out, it hurts pretty bad. I just think back to my own mental state and how optimistic I was time and time again over the last 6 year’s offseasons too. Buttercupped everytime. I mean, what else are you going to do but try to be hopeful, but sheesh.

Last edited 11 days ago by nishiogawakun
Twebur
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  nishiogawakun

………so we lead MLB in something. Winning at losing.

Jim Atkins
Trusted Member
11 days ago

Billy Eppler offered Mets GM job per MLB Trade Rumors. Good luck with that morass, Billy.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Yeah…. we’ll see how that goes.

Mia
Super Member
Mia
11 days ago

Finally! An owner that isn’t involved in baseball ops!

Wait, what?

2002heaven
Trusted Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Couldn’t be any worse than here.
At least he would be the GM over there while over here he was really the assistant GM ( El Jefe was the real GM )..

Cowboy26
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtKEMWX8OqU

Sandy Alderson is the POBO until they hire his replacement . Eppler has been hired to be his bitch.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

it’ll be interesting to see how he does and how the Mets do. It’s a no-win for Arte. Either he hired the right guy and hamstringed him or he hired the wrong guy. Although, theoretically Billy has learned from his experience….

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

I’ll tell you one thing, given all the word splooge that splashed the net when he was released, and with every at bat he survived as a Doyer, I am just plain shocked no one has stepped up and offered Albert Pujols a contract worthy of his girth and stature. What’s taking so long?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Scott Boras:

“We have seen the championship in 60 days,” Boras said last week. “The rules allow them to be a less-than-.500 team at Aug. 1 and add four players, five players from teams that no longer wanted to compete, and for very little cost change the entirety of their team and season.

“And we saw this unfold to the detriment of teams that create at vast expense, planning and intellect and won over 100 games. In doing all this, we have now created an understanding that a fan would not know who the true team is until, frankly, the trading deadline.

“The Atlanta Braves are the Atlanta Braves because tanking teams said, ‘I want to get to the bottom to get those draft picks.”

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Chipper Jones in response:

“Been thinking about Scott Boras’ comments on the Braves. Maybe CA should institute a muzzle mandate so stupid s— doesn’t fly out of his mouth as easily! The pest of the west and his comments about the Braves I find especially funny since he is the head of the zit that may cause certain teams to HAVE to sell off players,” Jones wrote in a series of tweets.

“Been done this way for years. His team (LAD) traded for/or signed 3 eventual/potential HOFers & didn’t get it done. But bc it paid off for the Braves, now it’s a problem? Dude, stay in your lane. No one cares what you think.”

SC_Halo
Member
11 days ago

Nice, Chipper!!!

FungoAle
Super Member
11 days ago

Chipper “Trailer Trash” Jones as dubbed by John Rocker due to his inability to wear a condom. Ol’ Chip seems annoyed. Happen to agree with the arguments Boras is making but this has been going on for years. This is not uncommon to my rotisserie league where every year, owner dump good players in an attempt to play for next year and shaking up the league standings and the whole make-up of the league.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

My main issue with Boras’s issue, other than the issue Chipper already brought up, which is Boras built this system, is as follows…..

I bet I can go way way way back and find plenty of instances where the lowly Cleveland Lajois traded and expensive star player to the Philadelphia A’s for two cheap players. I just read an entire book on the history of the PCL again. “Cheap” trades happened all the time, and the team gaining the talent caught up to the team who “made the proper investment” from the get go.

I mean, what Boras wants isn’t possible, even with a salary floor, and what’s more, who wants what he’s talking about. “The team who spends the most by the beginning of April should win the WS.” Yeah. Sounds fun. That’ll be great for baseball.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
11 days ago

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What we shouldn’t have again is what Charlie Finley did in the 1970’s by just dismantling that 3 peat World Series championship team with Reggie Jackson, Joe Rudi, Catfish Hunter, and Rollie Fingers being scattered across MLB for just money and no prospects in return. We also shouldn’t want a small market championship team being forced to liquidate themselves twice ( 1997 and 2003 Florida Marlins ) with all due apologies to Jack Frost who thinks small market baseball sucks unless the GM moves on to the Big 3 teams ( Yankees, RS, Dodgers ).

red floyd
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Hell, in KC, Finley’s A’s were widely regarded as the MFY Farm Team.

Last edited 11 days ago by red floyd
JackFrost
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Ummm, and where did I ever say that “small market baseball sucks…?”

Not sure where you got that nugget. Did you pull it out of your ass?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  JackFrost

I think it was just a clumsy way of saying you’re not a fan of cutting payroll and small time signings that don’t make a team a contender…. which is what small market teams do a lot of the time.

JackFrost
Super Member
11 days ago

Problem is, he’s wrong. I don’t feel that way. Just spending is not the answer — you have to spend wisely.

The Padres spent a lot last year and where did it get them? For a long ways back Arte has NOT spent wisely… Do I even need to say the names; Hamilton, Wells, Finley etc…

I actually liked the Royals team that made it to the Series in consecutive years…But despite being a “small market” they had ALOT of talent.

In short, I like TALENT. It does not have to be expensive talent but it needs to be actual talent. Not Justin Bour, Matt Harvey and Julio Tehran.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  JackFrost

What I said he said was….

I think it was just a clumsy way of saying you’re not a fan of cutting payroll and small time signings that don’t make a team a contender…. which is what small market teams do a lot of the time.”

Here, shorter…

You no like sell offs, slow rebuilds, penny ante free agent signings. Small market/poor team stuff. No fun for Jack.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
11 days ago

The thing is the Braves aren’t the Pittsburgh Pirates either.
One true small market champion Chip since the 1991 Minnesota Twins ( 2015 KC Royals ) who BTW have two 100+ plus loss seasons since that 2015 season. Plus one bigger market team with bad incompetent FO leadership and a last place farm system (CTPG followers know who I’m talking about!!) The Braves also have a strong farm system…..
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  2002heaven

The Cubs, The White Sox, The Mets, The Angels, The Phillies, The Astros, The Rangers, The Nationals, The D-Bags, The Doyers… all have proven at times that you can be a big market and still be a big pile of suck for a long time.

Gotta use your money well.

Fansince1971
Super Member
12 days ago

So if Raisel accepts the QO, does that mean that Perry (per Rahul’s budget prediction) only has $27 million left for next season to deal with arb raises and signing 2 starters and probably 4 bullpen arms?

Ohtani is likely to be awarded at least a $7 million raise so that would take it to $20 m with just Raisel and Ohtani.

If so this team is f’d.

Fansince1971
Super Member
12 days ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

So is the $5.5m he earns next year included in the payroll already?

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
12 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Should be, with also planned Arb raises.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

E-Rod to the Tigers: 5 years, $77M

ihearhowie3.0
Trusted Member
12 days ago

Yeah we didn’t need that contract for that player

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

If it starts to set the market….

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

that’s a little over $15mil per year with an option after 2 years. Consider that we signed Matt Harvey for $11mil, Julio Teheran for $9mil, Trevor Cahill for $9mil.

What do you think better pitching will cost? Or is it just the length that bothers you?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

I bet he’d have come here if only Arte had offered 100M with 40M the first year and an opt out clause after one year. Stupid Arte.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Exactly.

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
12 days ago

Absent the Triple Crown narrative or the playoff narrative panning out for Vlad Jr., I don’t see why anyone would pick him over Ohtani this year.

The only way to justify it would be to exclude him as a pitcher (or a hitter) in the calculation.

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