LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Not Entertained?

Are you not entertained? Bleacher Report has Shohei Ohtani as one of the top ten most entertaining players in MLB (Duh!)

Speaking of entertaining, Simu Liu threw out the first pitch at a Dodgers Giants game and did a back flip on the mound.  It was a pretty good pitch compared to some of the first pitches I’ve seen.

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In case you missed it, José Suarez pitched a complete game victory on Saturday.  It’s nice to see the occasional success story. 

The drama continues related to Eric Kay’s trial.  I’m not sure why Sheryl Ring is analyzing California law in discussing a motion to compel filed in a federal court in Fort Worth, Texas.  Nevertheless, it is an interesting article.

 The Angels’ 2022 regular season schedule is now available. 

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Former Angel Julio Teheran was shut down for the season due to shoulder issues.

Former Angel José Iglesias is now on the Red Sox.

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Halo71
Trusted Member
18 days ago

Since the Angels are out of it like usual, go Padres!

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
18 days ago

we’re getting our wish tonight! Rengifo is batting 2nd. Perfect spot for him! Mayfield cleanup, Packy 8th.

Twebur
Super Member
18 days ago

2 shutouts in a row…..ugh.

Mia
Super Member
Mia
18 days ago

7:10 feels like such a late start now lol

Cowboy26
Super Member
Twebur
Super Member
Designerguy
Super Member
18 days ago

To all of our CTPG Jewish friends and their families, happy Rosh Hashanah. Party like it’s 5782.

Twebur
Super Member
Cowboy26
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Nice to see J.J. back. I’m not sure why he hasn’t returned to the IE yet. Maybe with the outbreaks there and at Tri City this maybe the best course of action for him though.

Twebur
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I didn’t realize he’s missed half the season.

red floyd
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

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Twebur
Super Member
19 days ago

Mason Albright….18 year old, ACL Angels

https://www.milb.com/player/mason-albright-695476

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Being able to add Mason Albright with the money saved on Bachman really makes this a great draft by Perry IMO.

There’s a legit debate to be had about higher floor, quicker to MLB college players and higher ceiling, longer development high school kids.

Perry snagged one of each.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

this is the high school kid?

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
18 days ago

Mason Albright is the high school kid. He’s coming from IMG Academy which is basically a sports factory with a little bit of actual school and signed for a cool $1 million over slot.

https://www.perfectgame.org/players/playerprofile.aspx?ID=478296

Last edited 18 days ago by Jeff Joiner
Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I like that! 94 at age 18 is very promising. The Angels like tall pitchers like Slegers but 6 feet even can work, too.

Cowboy26
Super Member
18 days ago

18 at age 94 would be equally impressive.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

It is very difficult at any age to make an 18 mph pitch for a strike from 60 ft 6 inches.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
19 days ago

I think Ohtani will not win the MVP if he ends up hitting .245 and is 4th in HRs. Also we need a Trout update. Yes or no.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
19 days ago

The entertainment factor is likely to dip as the schedule gets much tougher. But if you are looking for pieces to next year’s team and a potential next competitive window, sure.

Marsh and Adell are the headliners. We need some multi inning relievers and spot starters. Junk, maybe? Both Davis Daniel and Ryan Smith were promoted to AAA so maybe them.

At this stage I’m actually ok with losses. Draft position and player development are all that matter.

Fansince1971
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Same ole song and dance. Let’s play for draft pick position- woo hoo!!

I want nothing to do with a team that plays Rengifo. I actually cringe when I see him in the lineup.

toad2065
Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I could not agree more! Rengifo is not a major league player on offense or defense. I hope they are showcasing for a trade.

Cowboy26
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  toad2065

To whom? the Milwaukee Milkmen?

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I thought I was the only one over the Rengifo experiment. I hate to be so down on a guy who is obviously trying his best, but there’s no spot on an MLB field for him.

I’d bet the farm Perry isn’t planning on him being with the big club next year. He’s just a placeholder we have to watch for a few weeks.

Cowboy26
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The basic problem with Rengifo is his defense is inconsistent to warrant a full time position and his hitting approach is such that he hits fly balls (not line drives or ground balls) with big swings that either end up as doink singles or in the outfielders glove at the rim of the track.

I may take you up on that farm bet as I’m not so sure this is just a show exhibition with the amount of rope Rengifo is being given and the fact that Stefanic will be an inevitable Rule 5 casualty if we don’t get him on the 40 man roster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udXB13CJOGE

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

His swing is definitely Willie Mays Hays of Major League II fame.

Last edited 18 days ago by Jeff Joiner
red floyd
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Maybe we should make him do pushups all the time?

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

Now if he could only steal bases

steelgolf
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I feel the same way about Rengifo. Maybe it is his pseudo LeBron James beard, but I would rather see a younster get his first cup of coffee than see Rengifo.

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
18 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Ok, I understand everyone’s frustration …. but … Rengifo is young (24), had a bad 2020 and start to 2021, but did well in AAA.

So, maybe deserves a week or two look to see if one wants him in camp. Too much? I think he out competes Jack Mayfield (who at 30, four years in the majors, is batting his career high at .218), even if I hope we find a far superior stopgap SS.

Maybe we can trade him in the offseason like we did Jam Jones. Who knows?

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
18 days ago

Speaking of the Jam Jones trade, I’ve almost forgotten about Cobb. The latest that I can find on Cobb is that he still isn’t ruled out for the rest of the season, that he threw a week ago. But we know he’s done, as is Trout.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
18 days ago

Last update was August 21st saying he had a setback and will be out indefinitely.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Dead? Maybe? Would we even know?

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

here’s the Cobb news from Sept. 4th.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/angels-alex-cobb-throws-bullpen-saturday/

I’m not sure if he threw on the 4th or if it refers to the week before, Aug 28th.

So short I might as well just post all of it.

“Cobb (wrist) threw a bullpen session Saturday, Jeff Fletcher of The Orange County Register reports.
Cobb threw a side session early in the week, and it appears as though he’s close to facing hitters. If he feels good following Saturday’s activities, he’s expected to throw an accelerated sim game in the coming days before the Angels determine his next steps.”

For Trout we have Joe’s quote from a week ago.

He had another good day working out and we were optimistic but he came back sore. So we keep going back to that. It’s a possibility [he’ll get shut down].”

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

NO! HIVEMIND NO LIKE! BAD! MAKE HIM GO AWAY NOW! KIDZ!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Wasn’t he in the trade with the Dodgers that Arte squashed?

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
18 days ago

Yes. so there’s probably one slight mechanical tweak LA sees that they want to try out on him.

Cowboy26
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

does it involve an uppercut?

Cowboy26
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I just don’t see DD or Ryan Smith seeing action at the Major League level this year . Neither one is eligible for the major league (or minor league) Rule 5 draft. I think the Angels are already focused on the potential Rule 5 pitching candidates by recent promotions including, Packy, Marte Junk, Tyler, A & W Bros, Elvis, & Ortega. The real question will be who comes off the 40 man when Detmers, Warren & Marte come off the COVID IL. I’m hoping doofuses like Petricka, Herget, Guerra are finally afforded an early summer vacation so we can try and figure part of the 2022 roster puzzle out

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

They aren’t cracking MLB this year. But I expect both to get invites to big league camp next year even if they are among the first sent back home.

My dream, and I’ll clearly outline it in my Perry off season piece, is to have 2-3 guys who can go 2-3 innings on a regular basis.

Who knows if Perry is looking for the same thing or not?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Like a large sandwich, I share your dream.
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Charles Sutton

What? You no like 70s Turkish Restaurant Sheik?

Fleckstein
Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I struggle with this idea of losing for draft position. Does any scout or development team really have the skills to tell the difference between a #12 vs. a #16 pick? I’m all for playing kids, win or lose. Sometimes this talk of draft position just seems a stat head’s version of sour grapes.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

the difference is hard cold cash. Each pick is assigned a certain dollar amount. the more money Perry has to sign prospects, the more flexibility he has in drafting them.

Take this year, for example. He was able to land Albright, generally considered a 3rd or 4th round talent, in the 12th round because he used his draft allotment intelligently.

Twebur
Super Member
19 days ago

Why do our starters always have difficulties in the 1st inning, or two????
It’s not a new problem. It seems to be more prevalent at home. Again the training staff, not adequately warming them up? Is it a pitching philosophy problem (if we even have one)? Is it the mounds (other teams don’t seem to have the same problem)? Jinxed? Or, just our general awfulness?

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
19 days ago

We are being entertained by AAA players with only 3 real Major Leaguer’s and they are in a slump while leading off at the top of the line up. Young starting pitching is by intent using the old theory of throw enough stuff against the wall and some might stick. We are not watching a Major League team really, but we are watching a group that could come together next season because of what we are watching this year. Is that unlikely? Maybe but I will always remember the 1967 Red Sox. How would you fix this team?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

With limited money, see what you’ve got (doing that now) then go get what you need (we hope) and if you need more than you can get, hope for .500+.

Halo71
Trusted Member
18 days ago

I couldn’t care less about being .500, making the playoffs is all that matters

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Halo71

The more I see comments like “Small improvements don’t matter, only derr play offs hurr derr!” the more I enjoy not making the play offs. It’s just such a douche coach take. Of coarse everyone from Arte to the Salty Nuts Guy would prefer we just make the play offs. Do we really need a “only the play offs matter cause winners!” comment every f***ing time someone mentions a version of better that doesn’t involve a promise of play offs?
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Halo71
Trusted Member
15 days ago

It’s been seven years since the Angels made the playoffs. If you’re happy finishing with 70-80 wins every year, that’s your prerogative, but you don’t have to be a dick about it.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
19 days ago

I guess we get to spend the rest of the season being entertainment by the awesomeness of “prospects” Janson Junk, Packy Naughton, and Luis Rengifo. I wish we had actual pitching prospects like Alexy and Otto and that we actually completed the Rengifo trade. But I am very excited that Marsh and Adell are being given a chance to entertain, too.

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
18 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Aren’t prospects Detmers, Warren, and C Rod working out pretty well? Even Kyle Tyler came in and pitched well.

But sure, we are stretching who we are playing – but wouldn’t you rather that than running Bundy and Quintana out there every five starts because we were paying them? Are the results with Junk and Packy worse than that?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

All the results are bad accept championships.
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Cowboy26
Super Member
18 days ago

Now You’re cutting into 2002’s territory. But can the stuffed donkey with the negative attitude pitch?

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
18 days ago

I haven’t given up on Bundy. He was terrible then he was good then he was terrible. But why was he good in between? I think the answer can be found and he can pitch well again.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
18 days ago

Sticky Stuff

H.T. Ennis
Admin
Super Member
18 days ago

He was bad to start 2021 though

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
18 days ago

None of them had the results of the Texas guys. I’m still holding out hope. Detmers getting Covid didn’t help. Warren has been pitching well before his Covid. C Rod looks very much a long term injury risk.

Fansince1971
Super Member
19 days ago

These last two games were not entertaining. They were boring.

tommyshalo
Trusted Member
19 days ago
steelgolf
Super Member
19 days ago

Last nights game was ……….. yeeesh. No hits between the 2nd and 7th innings?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  steelgolf

“No tank” tank

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DowningDude
Super Member
19 days ago

Eppler said it’s not in our DNA. Maybe our DNA has mutated?

Twebur
Super Member
19 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Went from Mu to LO-SE quickly.

FungoAle
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

What GM would openly admit it? Perry and Joe are the covert tank commando duo. They are not managing to win while remaining silent. The media is not calling them out.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  FungoAle

Andddd…. look, up on your screens! It’s……. Captain CallOut!
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Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

There’s a difference between playing for next year and blatantly tanking IMO.

The kids could hit the ground running and add to the win total. They could suck. You don’t know, but you’re willing to find out.

And the goal is to compete again soon. In our case, next year.

FungoAle
Super Member
18 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Imagine how the As will feel when we roll Junk out there to face Seattle?

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