Jared Walsh was supposedly day to day. Matt Thaiss was called up. The worse news is that it’s the IL for Walsh.
From the OC Register, the Angels have discussed moving Mike Trout to a corner outfield position when he returns.
The Angels have brought up right handed reliever Austin Warren.
Right handed pitcher Oliver Ortega was promoted from the Trash Pandas up to AAA.
Ryan Smith, just interviewed by Jeff Joiner, has now been promoted to AA Rocket City. Coincidence?
Links From Around Baseball
Yesterday’s game between the Phillies and Nationals was postponed due to a large outbreak of COVID-19 among the Nationals.
Joey Gallo has been traded to the Yankees.
The Rockies traded right handed reliever Mychal Givens to the Reds in exchange for right handers Case Williams and Noah Davis. The Reds designated Josh Osich for Assigment to make room. The Reds also acquired Luis Cessa and Justin Wilson from the Yankees.
The Rangers signed number two overall draft pick Jack Leiter. Heh heh heh! He said “number two.”
In the year of groin strains, C.J. Cron is the latest victim.
Left handed relievers Paul Fry and Tanner Scott of the Orioles are drawing a lot of trade interest. The article mentions in passing that Tony Watson may be traded if the Angels ever figure out what their trade position is. I guess that amounts to speculation.
It’s official. The Mariners acquired starter Tyler Anderson from the Pirates.
The Marlins got left handed pitcher Jesus Luzardo from the Athletics for Starling Marte. The Marlins are trading right handed reliever Yimi Garcia to the Astros who have designated Austin Pruitt for Assignment in an unrelated move.
Stephen Strasburg will be having season ending neck surgery.
The Brewers are acquiring infielder Eduardo Escobar from the Diamondbacks.
Photo credit: Rex Fregosi
lololololol @ Hector
hey, how come some of my posts now have to be approved? Is it because they contain links? Gosh dang it! I’m a super member! I come to this place regularly!!
yeah i think so, the links sometimes flag as spam, lol
Scherzer AND Trea Turner to the Dodgers?
Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
BREAKING: The Los Angeles Dodgers are making significant progress on a deal that would send them star right-hander Max Scherzer and star shortstop Trea Turner from the Washington Nationals for a prospect-laden return, sources tell ESPN.
That’s a “what the actual fuck” kinda deal
Hector Santiago 80 games for PEDs.
Damn. I liked that dude.
Another JeDi bullpen trade. Glad to see Chargois go but The Rays must think Castillo is about to collapse. but in the 2 times Castillo faced us we got shut down including in the last appearances when he got the save in a 3 K performance at the Trop.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/mariners-finalizing-deal-to-acquire-diego-castillo-from-rays.html
I can’t wait to see him again this year
good day for Pujols. 0 for 3. 2 Ks, 1 GIDP.
He will blame the Doyers for not getting enough playing time. He hadn’t played since 7/24
https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1420886246944018436?s=20
only if he signs an extension. But it’s Heyman so I don’t believe it.
Heyman feeding us Boras propaganda.
The Angels dont have the assets to match the Padres’ offer ( except if the Nats wanted Adell/Marsh ++) Maybe the Scherzer didnt like the extension offer by the Pads so Boras trying to run up the contract amount by bringing in the Angels. Its a weird way to negotiate but at least no lost draft pick.
“Joe Maddon said that Mike Trout had some tests today and the results were encouraging. Still no more definition on the timeline. #Angels”
-Jeff Fletcher on twitter just now.
Not that any health update from any person ever within this organization should be trusted, but there’s that.
your last sentence….I’m laughing.
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1420885051189960707
that sounds kind of serious if it’s for the last couple of months. Hope he’s gonna be ok.
Damn. I genuinely like Terry Francona. Hope it’s nothing too serious. Might be time to hang them up. Good manager, good guy.
Rizzo on the Yankees feels v weird.
Are they saying that now ? I thought Rizzo was the one they wanted to keep and Bryant was the one they were looking to trade…
Especially since Wisdom is waiting in the wings as the heir apparent at 3B.
Yep. Rizzo is confirmed, haven’t seen anything on Bryant…yet
funny how we can’t trade for players because we don’t have the salary room but the Skanks somehow get other teams to pay those salaries.
Ha ha. Isn’t it funny how that always seems to work out ?
Funny. Yep. Right. That’s the word.
Really hard to see the Angels catching one of Oakland, Tampa, and NYY
Walsh getting hurt sealed the deal but yeah, the teams ahead of us are loading up aggressively. Sell some pieces for 2022 bullpen options and promote some youngsters worth paying attention to.
We just need Shohei to hit 4 bombs a night.
You mean catching 2 out of 3?
? we only need to catch one of them to get a WC spot (plus SEA, etc)
So if we only catch Oakland but not the Yankees or the Rays does that mean there will be 3 wild card teams this year?
lol i’m stupid. thanks
Today we are all stupid….
Platypus assassin waiting to strike or sleeping at the wheel? Thoughts?
nothing will happen, I am almost positive of it. Again, selling looks bad, buying at the cost of prospects gets you fired. The solution? do nothing. which is the worst outcome for the franchise.
Hello fellow Bavasi fan
Standpat Stoneman also sends his regards
Sometimes it is okay to stand pat.
Especially if you are not sitting pat.
Perry is terrible! Hope to see some action shortly. We should have traded Cobb, Heaney, and Iglesias by now! I would have been fine if it was both the closer and shortstop! Should have loaded up on some prospects.
if Brad Hand gets the #17 Toronto prospect then we’re not loading up on anything except question marks.
The Magic 8 ball says Perry will make fewer trades than JeDi.
Need help! I’m Las Vegas, Angels are +126 tonight, pitcher is TBD on the board. Anyone know who is throwing to night.
And…Perry is sitting on his thumbs as predicted. Everyone else is getting better.
Bundy
Thank you, probably scared me away. Montas has value betting against but with Al Bundy on the mound…nah.
I’d want 2 to 1 to take that bet
def not at +126, haha
Doesn’t matter.
Bet the house on Oakland!
I just laid some money on the A’s at (-145). That game is now off the boards at my book.
There must have been big money coming in on the A’s.
Joe has announced Bundy as the starter, but even if it is Cobb I like them.
If it is indeed Bundy then it is a scheduled loss.
I like you, but I hope you lose that bet.
Believe it or not, so do I !!
I didn’t put a very big amount on it… Less than $200.00
Gammons is such a Peter. Even when he tries to do a praise piece on our very own David Fletcher it becomes more about Boston & the Red Sox.
https://theathletic.com/2733750/2021/07/29/gammons-hell-do-anything-to-win-david-fletcher-brings-relentlessness-belief-to-the-angels/
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/padres-close-to-acquiring-max-scherzer.html
Padres strike and get Max. Sorry Red Sox.
..and sorry Doyers.
this is what I was thinking. If he signs with the Padres then Dodgers fans heads are going to explode. but at least The Dodgers got Bauer! Hehehe. Oh shit, looks like the Dodgers are close to getting Danny Duffy from The Royals.
Consolation prize ??
Must be.
my favorite part of the article: “Among starters with 50+ innings pitched, only Jacob deGrom, Tyler Glasnow, Patrick Sandoval and Shane Bieber have generated swinging strikes at a higher clip than Scherzer’s 16.5% mark.”
Sandoval’s changeup is awesome!
Those guys are all the best pitchers in baseball. And then there is Patrick. Awesome!
Fantastic for the Pads!
I’m good with that. If i truly had a NL team, it would be the Padres.
@JackF: Yankee fans are SUPER thrilled with the Gallo acquisition:
DowningDude’s Yankee fan friend #1: “A waste if we cannot pitch”
DowningDude’s Yankee fan friend #2: See image:
and YES – I know too many damn Yankee fans! 😀
Screw the Yankees
My father-in-law is one of the worst. He was born and raised in San Diego but he turned into a total bandwagon Yankee fan in the late 90’s. I will say that it’s fun to watch his brothers pile the grief on him at every family gathering.
my late Dad was a bit disappointing. Well, not really Dad! But, uh…he was a Brooklyn Dodger fan and that was a fine team to root for. Jackie Robinson, Duke Snider, Gil Hodges, Roy Campanella et al. Then they moved. He rooted for them for a short time as the LA Dodgers but then became a Mets fan. Fine. But somewhere along the line he also rooted for the Skanks. Since he was my Dad I could only give him a certain amount of grief for that.
😂
Like my “Anti-Pujols” jersey reply??? 😀 Saw that dude 2 nights ago. Last night we had Zack Hample in the same area.
Gallo don’t cost nuthin’
https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1420783000564813830?s=20
thanks. So the going rate means we’d get maybe someone’s 12th or 14th ranked prospect, if that. Is it even worth it? I dunno.
In a word : “No!”
You’d be bending over for someone if they give you a 12-14th ranked prospect in their system. And I don’t care how “good” that system is. This is the way it works. The favored teams expect to be able to rape the “bad” teams because, well, they are bad and should not care if they get worse.
We are good, and we deserve to get better at your expense! So come all Ye lousy teams, you losers, you “sellers” and give us your good players for our crap and dregs! We will not give you even a top 10 prospect. But you’ll take what you get and like it because well, you’re just a loser anyways..
We’re talking about 2+ months of a relief pitcher. A good one, but still, a guy who likely pitches 30ish innings for his new squad then waltzes into free agency.
As of now I could see Philly and LA in a bidding war for him but at a certain point it stops making sense for the acquiring club.
But alot of times those “rentals” are pivotal pieces that help the receiving team win a World Series !
Why should the needs of the “good” (“Buyers”) teams take precedence over the so-called “bad” (“Sellers”) ?? But that is exactly what happens in the majority of cases. And the MSM plays into this and supports this annual charade !! How often do those Franklin Barreto’s of the world contribute anything of value at all??
Those two to three months of “rental” plus playoffs are very frequently huge contributing factors to the team getting the rental actually winning in the post-season. This fact needs to be adequately appreciated.
To be clear, do you believe the Mariners lost in value when they acquired Toro for Graveman?
Well, what are the designs of the Astros? Do they intend on keeping Graveman long term? If they do, and their relationship with him either a) helps them win big in 2021, and/or b) helps them sign Graveman to a new contract then I’d say yeah, they won.
We know that Graveman is very good right now. And he is one of the main reasons the Mariners have been competitive in 2021. We have already seen that the players on that team were not happy with this trade.
And I don’t blame them. Toro has a career batting average of .197 over parts of three seasons. Sure, he could explode and become Max Muncy, but there have been no good indications that is forthcoming.
So, yes, I do think the Astros clearly won this trade. And if they go on to win the World Series and Graveman plays a big role, then they will have really won.
Okay cool, just getting a sense of your opinions on value, which drastically differ from mine. Will keep that in mind in future conversations.
I value a Bundy and Heaney trade package very highly for a top level starter trade. It’s a 2 for one deal. It only takes 1 GM to make this a reality. Maybe just maybe throw in Cichek for the right guy even.
“MSM plays into this”….
dude – there’s an MSM conspiracy regarding trade deadlines???
It doesn’t need to be a “conspiracy” since it is part of their nature and makeup. It is simply how they function.
That is like saying the pride of lions had a conspiracy to attack a herd of gazelles.
But Cheap Arte would save almost $2 million
I’ve been playing around on the trade simulator. We could snag a promising AA catcher from Philly, a “will he start, will he bullpen?” arm from the Dodgers, etc.
Thing is we will need those next year and we aren’t guaranteed to have Iglesias. I’m also not a fan of QO’ing him because with the current free agent climate and likely lockout/strike there’s a really good chance he’d take it.
https://twitter.com/AaronHowie/status/1420603649940758532?s=20
Have you seen this guys career & season Walk/9 inning rates? He was pitching in the 10th inning of this game because he blew the save in the 9th In July alone Almeda has 9.72 ERA . Considering how many batters he walks, his strike out rate around 10/9 innings is not that impressive.
I guess that our upper level relievers are so underwhelming that this is the best we can do for Minor League highlights.
In 2 July outings, 1.2 innings, gave up 8 runs, 4 in each game. Other then that, May and June nothing but 0’s and 1’s every outing, averaging over an inning each. 2.08 era in May, 0.00 in June, almost 10.00 in July.
WHIP is awful and a shitload of walks as you pointed out, sounds like he’d fit in nicely with us. Not sure if 26 at AA is old? But he’s a lefty throwing 99.
Let Matt Wise work his magic, his walks will
come downgo up.At some point in the very near future these type of guys in our system need to become distant memories.
We don’t need no nice firing. We need nails. Sticking way out there. Rusty nasty thanks that will make you get a tetanus shot just thinking of them
mlb.com has a ghostly shadow of a face for the Angels starter whose name is TBD. But it’s Bundy, right? My prediction for tonight’s game. Tied in the bottom of the 9th, runner on 3rd, Trout is wheeled up to the plate, swings and gets a little piece of the ball. Because if he’s in a wheelchair his swing will be limited. Anyway, a little dribbler as he spins the wheels on his way to 1st. Rengifo (it’ll probably be him on 3rd) runs for home. The A’s catcher at that point will be Bert Campaneris (coming out of retirement to play every position in this game). Campy will have trouble picking up the ball, having it slip out of his hand several times. Rengifo will score for the win.
That’s my prediction.
LOL that’s a bold prediction but it definitely entices me to watch.
I am skipping it just because of Bundy. Just can’t torture myself by watching this guy anymore
If they wheeled Trout up to the on deck circle in one of those Hannibal Lecter dollies, that would be totally worth the price of admission.
Please let this happen!
Passan reported yesterday that the Dodgers might make Brusdar Graterol available.
I would love it if we swung something like this, which is pretty even on Baseball Trade Values:
Alex Cobb, Raisel Iglesias, José Iglesias, and $3M for Brusdar Graterol.
All three??? While I like the fact you want to acquire someone who has bounce back potential and upside this is WAY too much to pay.
Besides, potentially fixing one bullpen hole while while creating another huge one is not smart.
Dodgers need SP. How about Cobb straight up for Graterol. Considering how bad Brusdar has been this year we can present that as more than fair..
What is he bouncing back from? Dude is legit.
I go by the trade values site. If you have some other values that I can look at and examine and play around with trades, please inform me.
Well, he’s given up 5 ER in only 7 IP. That’s not great. I realize it is a relatively small sample, but he has not been as sharp as he was last year when he had an ERA of 3.09 (only 8 ER over 23.1 IP).
So, that is what he’s bouncing back from. I will say that I really like his stuff. He’s actually got great stuff, so maybe his recent poor performance (gave up two runs Friday night over 2/3 an inning to Rockies) is about mechanics or mental etc.
His average four-seam fastball velo is around 99 which I love. He’s also got a good slider, so he profiles well as somebody we could plug in to a late-inning high leverage role. That said, to echo Fan1971 one wonders why the Dodgers would have him on the trading block?
In any case, I think he is worth a risk, but I would not give up the three guys who you listed primarily because I hope to resign two of them (both Churches) !!
But I think you have targeted exactly the kind of player we need.
If I was a GM I would not rely upon a trade calculator to tell me what trades to make or not make. Who made the program? What parameters did they use for current value? For future value ? So, in short, we both like the player and his prospects going forward, we just disagree about what he is worth/what we would be willing to give up to get him.
Okay, I have very high hopes that he will bounce back from his seven bad innings 👍 lol
look man, if we got him for cheaper, great. i see no world in which we get graterol for just cobb
It’s worth a try. Why offer the farm up front when you don’t have to?
Not necessarily pointing at you, but it seems alot of people on this site undervalue our own players and overvalue the players of other teams. They do the opposite of what most fans do.
Negotiating is an art, and sometimes you’ll get somebody to bite, to take the bait when you are not sure they will. You have to try. If they say no you go back to the drawing board.
Obviously I assume that’s where they will start. I just suggest the ending-up point, because it doesn’t make much sense to suggest us acquiring a good player for a bad player. I would love for that equal value trade to happen. If I were negotiating, I wouldn’t say that that was the trade I wanted to happen.
Just saw this and your last sentence is exactly what I just posted above in a separate comment…
Hey, I think he’ll bounce back too! It is probably what amounts to a blip on the radar. But in negotiations you don’t show your cards, you know. On the phone I just drop a line or two about “I’m not sure about this, but maybe we’d consider Graterol” etc.
“He struggled the other night, so we’re just debating it” etc. It is all part of the game. I think one of the strategies I would use is I would never lead a conversation with the player I really want. I would call ostensibly to talk about “Player A” and make an offer I know they’ll reject, then steer the conversation to “Player B” or “Player C” so the the other guy isn’t sure he’s a target, or at least does not think he is my main target…
That is clearly how I would play a Graterol card.
I think it’s a pretty fair assumption that if I would “love it” if we acquired Graterol for the three listed players, that I would also love it if we acquired him for less than that. The Dodgers are 99% not going to accept less, but they might. It is counterproductive to list all that out in a comment where I was commenting on what I felt was a likely place to end up. Otherwise you end up like “I wish we could get Berrios and Buxton for Steve Cishek.” That is an extreme, but it is counterproductive on a blog, which has no impact on actual moves, to post trades that I don’t think will happen.
As I am not negotiating, I do not feel that I have to post comments like “let’s buy Graterol who sucks but I secretly feel that he’s good.” This is a blog. I know how to negotiate.
This is also a pretty silly rabbit hole thread, so I will stop.
I get what you are saying- trade away 3 contracts that are expiring for a highly rated prospect. But if they were to make that trade, does the team basicslly accept going into the tank for the rest of the season? Not sure that is in the plans.
Also if the Dodgers are willing to trade someone, that should be a warning sign right there. Friedman has made a career of selling high and then watching the traded player fail miserably. I just don’t trust that guy to suddenly make Gaterol available. There has got to be something we don’t know.
Yes, as we clearly saw from Pages/Pederson/Stripling 😉
Obviously the team will probably not seriously sell. Oh well.
I will be surprised if the Angels make any moves.
I’m generally optimistic/glass half full, but I have accepted that the team has tanked.
Such injury risk with Graterol. He’s almost certainly injured now. Of course he showed up to camp weighing about as much as Kanley Jansen only half a foot shorter.
When he’s on, he’s dynamic, though.
He’s also one of those guys who might do something on the mound that incites a brawl.
our guys have risk too…the risk that they’ll be gone after the season ends