Tree falls, Angels-Dodgers trade dies

It is a sad day for the Angels and therefore, CTPG. The first big deal on the site is a lie as the trade to send Joc and Stripling dies.

The trade was supposed to be Joc Pederson, Ross Stripling, and OF prospect Pages to the Angels for Luis Rengifo, and prospects that were never named.

However, that was determined to be dependent on the original Boston Twins Dodgers mega trade that fell apart and had to be renegotiated. The result of which is the death of the trade with the Angels.

Blame has yet to be confirmed. Although with how Arte Moreno is and the shifting nature of deals, the Angels pulling out seems more likely especially when Joc is already back on the trade market.

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HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 years ago

Got a sneak peek at the early arrivers getting in some work at Astros camp.

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Brent
Super Member
4 years ago

JFC…

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HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
4 years ago

All is saved. Who needs Stripling and Pederson when you get Quijada?

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/02/angels-claim-jose-quijada-designate-parker-markel.html

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 years ago

So much to cry about in that article.. It might as well be titled “Homeless person hopes to find something edible in trash can”

UnrealisticOptimist
Trusted Member
4 years ago

🙁

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IEAngel
Member
4 years ago

Sucking out a wave of new optimism right as camp opens is not usually the best way to boost fan support, but we know that Arte has always loved his arbitrary deadlines.

Frustrating end to an offseason.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
4 years ago

yo fuck the dodgers, arte and stripling’

at least Kershaw has another aging ace friend to bomb with him in the playoffs. enjoy another miserable exit shitheads!

AngelsMambaFan
Member
4 years ago

It’s been confirmed by Fabian Ardaya, that Arte did indeed nix this deal…. UNBELIEVABLE

fishfarm
Trusted Member
4 years ago
Reply to  AngelsMambaFan

What an old piece of shit

JackFrost
Super Member
4 years ago
Reply to  AngelsMambaFan

Wow. Billy is probably not too happy about this. Sure it is his boss, but Arte supposedly had given Billy the freedom to make trades etc and Arte would only assert himself in the “large” signings and trades, such as Rendon etc. Billy has got to feel a little emasculated by this.

eyespy
Super Member
4 years ago
Reply to  AngelsMambaFan

gitch goes on sabbadical

Stirrups
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  AngelsMambaFan

How did this man ever become a mogul in his industry?

eyespy
Super Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Stirrups

By putting all the others out of business with other people’s money. Then buying back their shares.
Same thing he is doing with this team.

LittleCupcakes
Newbie
4 years ago

I’m not gonna burn Arte here (though this petulance is not good!), at least if Rosenthal is correctly describing the sequence of events. Arte pulled the deal, then LAD said “unnecessary”. I read that as LAD walking away from this one after the changed Betts trade. Arte maybe gave them a perfect excuse, but LAD were not going to do that exact deal.

Maybe I’m retconning a little here, but I cannot believe that there’s any way the LAD came to Arte and said “please un-withdraw, even though contingency technically didn’t occur” and Arte said “screw you”. More like LAD said “It’s unnecessary, so thanks for covering our ass.”

Stirrups
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  LittleCupcakes

I see you understanding the sequence of events, but misinterpret them.

1. Petulant Arte pulls out of deal with Dodgers

2. Dodgers and Red Sox re-tool their deal.

3. Dodgers then turn and look at deal they once had with Arte, see that it no longer optimizes the outcome of the Red Sox deal now that this outcome is different.

4. Dodgers spend a few nano-seconds considering whether or not they need to go back to Arte and make a new offer, and realize that nope, they are fine. Trying to create a trade package with what Arte was offering is no longer necessary.

If Petulant Arte had not pulled out of the deal we would have had a mid-rotation starter, and second LH bat to balance the batting order and supplement Ohtani when he cannot DH, and a decent prospect. And we would have done that by dealing from rare strength: the overcrowded infield. And then the Dodgers and Red Sox would have re-tooled their deal, perhaps in even a different way. And maybe the Dodgers would have been in a spot where some other trade with some other team would be “necessary”. Maybe even more “necessary”. The Halos would be covered, and any issue would be the Dodgers’ problem. But Arte took his toy and went home, and took the Dodgers off the hook. Expect LAD to do better elsewhere with their Pederson/Stripling bottleneck now that they have some time to focus.

eyespy
Super Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Stirrups

Arte thought it was a done deal, but when he found out he was waiting on the outcome of the LAD-BOS deal, he snapped that he was being controlled by his competition.

He does not to be told to wait, or what to do, by others.

He then pulled out of the deal, this way, he no longer looks like someone’s bitch.

JocsStrap
Member
4 years ago

welp… this is awkward.

Blackgoat
Trusted Member
4 years ago
Reply to  JocsStrap

Now you’re stuck with the name.

benjiface
Trusted Member
4 years ago
Reply to  JocsStrap

Whoops!

raskul
Member
4 years ago

“WWWWWWG” again?

eyespy
Super Member
4 years ago
Reply to  raskul

LOLBAH!

Designerguy
Super Member
4 years ago

But but but we were promised this was a done deal

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DonoRomantico
Member
4 years ago

Hmmmmm. 2020, 2002. Would you look at those 2’s & 0’s. You know what they have in common? Joe Maddon and a team that should hit the crap out of the ball and score runs just like the team in 02. I believe both teams had average pitching too! ~ Let Us Pray ~

Angels2020Champs
Super Member
4 years ago
Reply to  DonoRomantico

Was it dyslexia?! Haha 2002 was probably the last time I interacted on message boards (ESPN then).

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
4 years ago

So much anger towards arte. I see interviews with him and he comes off as a calm, collected, do whatever it takes to win type of owner. Is he a different type of beast in a work environment?

ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
4 years ago

When I first saw this last night I thought “AAARRRTTTTEEEE NOOOOOOOOO” and I despaired. Lesson learned – do not read the Angels news right before bedtime when a big trade is going down…

But I will not truly despair because “PITCHERS AND CATCHERS REPORT THIS WEEK!!!” Yaaaaahhhhooooo! Soon I’ll be seeing photos on CTPG (or CtPG) of baseball players in Angeles uniforms and be saying”Hmmm who’s that?”, or “arrgh I wish I was there, maybe next year”. Soon I will see people sitting in the sunny warm stands eating hot dogs and watching baseball!!!! 🙂

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YOUknowulovetheIE
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RexFregosi
Super Member
4 years ago

Brian Goodwin wasn’t obtained til Mar 27, the end of spring training so i’m not worked up about today’s news. Kind of disappointing? Yes (but it was platoon/bench depth and the pitcher was not Gerrit Cole).

Besides, we don’t know who we would of lost of our own system.

So don’t get aggravated – save that for the July trade deadline.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
4 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Stripling would have been one of our 3 best pitchers with years of control. More than a bench deal.

JackFrost
Super Member
4 years ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Exactly!

ryanfea
Super Member
4 years ago

Fine. Jo Adell will go ahead and have an 8 WAR season then

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 years ago
Reply to  ryanfea

can he pitch?

benjiface
Trusted Member
4 years ago

Is he fat?

Cowboy26
Legend
4 years ago

Is Vernon Wells available? It feels like desperate time is upon us.

johnlweitzel
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Now that’s a name I haven’t heard for a long time, a long time.

red floyd
Legend
4 years ago
Reply to  johnlweitzel

Indeed.

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ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I think Chris Sale would be the parallel here.

Tolbs
Member
4 years ago

This team is so overdue for a favorable cosmic/karmic correction that I’m taking the collapse of this trade as a good omen and an opportunity to predict the unexpected: Brian Goodwin and Jaime Barria outperform Pedersen and Stripling in 2020. Total WAR.

We’ll win with what we’ve got.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
4 years ago
Reply to  Tolbs

Barria will need a hair cut 1st

rspencer
Trusted Member
4 years ago

Is Ramón Ortiz available?

losangel
Trusted Member
4 years ago

Amazing how starved we are for pitching. A decent bone gets thrown in the ring and everyone starts salivating. Take it away and we want to riot.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
4 years ago
Reply to  losangel

We were basically promised some version of it when we were in on Cole and it came as a surprise like found-money on the street to be getting Stripling so late. Taking it away definitely a bummer

Blackgoat
Trusted Member
4 years ago
Reply to  losangel

He wasn’t even really a reliable starting pitcher. We were making more out of the trade than we probably should have, particularly if we don’t know what was happening with the unknown prospect situation.