Postgame Loss

Today we had Ryan Johnson. You know the drill.

Inning #1:

Kyle Schwarber struck out but Trea Turner and Bryce Harper both walked. Luis Arraez grounded go short for a double play. Zach Neto grounded out on a play that should have been challenged. Zach Neto grounded out to third. Mike Trout struck out swinging. Vaughn Grissom flied out to right.

Inning #2:

Alec Bohm singled on a liner to Meckler. Brandon Marsh singled on a liner to center. Alec Bohm scored. I I was asleep..

Inning #3:

I was asleep.

Inning #4:

I was asleep.

Inning #5:

I was asleep.

Inning #6:

I was asleep.

Inning #7:

I was asleep.

Inning #8:

I was asleep.

Apparently, there was an unusual stolen 2 bases by Harper. on a wild pitch by Martin.

New and creative ways to lose. Harper then did a straight steal of home plate. He was called out on the re-play. It was still only 1-0 Phillies.

Moises Bsllesteros pinch hit for d”Arnaud and struck out. I reckon d’Arnaud could have done that. Wade Meckler lined out to center. Zach Neto homered on the twelfth pitch of his at bat. 1-1 tie.

Mike Trout struckTROUT.

Inning #9:

The Phillies did squat while i was tidying up these videos. Jhoan Duran hit Vaughn Grissom with his first pitch. Jose Siri grounded into a force out. Or was it? There was some kind of challenge. Christian Moore grounded out softly to third. Adam Frazier pinch hit for Peraza and was out.

Inning #10:

Now comes the part where the Angels lose. Brandon Marsh was on second. Neto threw out Marsh who tried to advance on a ball hit to the left side. Duh. J.T. Realmuto who reacjhed on the fielder’s choice ended up scoring on a double by Kyle Schwarber. Trea Turner drove in another run to make it 4-1 Phillies. The Angels ended this with a 3-6-1 double play.

Moises Ballesteros got a base hit on the ground through to left. Wade Meckler hit into a force out but Denzer Guzman scored.

It wasn’t enough. Neto and Trout made outs. The Angels lost.

Subscribe
Notify of
52 Comments
Newest
Oldest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 hours ago

For all the baseball related complaints, the organization and the players deserve kudos for an excellent community service program. They do a great job with the kids, the sick, and disabled.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 hours ago

Oh cr@p we have a game today.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
10 hours ago

The team as constructed is going to lose close to 100 games, and that’s with exceptional starting pitching. 2027 is likely a lost season so practically speaking, Detmers has 1 season left after this and Neto and Schanuel both have 2. Detmers and Neto either need to be extended or traded. The team needs to commit in the near future to trading or extending both. It would be a waste to keep them if we’re not competing.

We need to get comfortable with being bad for a while. We’re not a couple of players away from competing even though our starting pitching is solid. The fact that the pitching is out of sync with the position players make’s things challenging because we aren’t able to take advantage of them when they’re young and cheap. We either need to spend significant money in 2028 or run in place for a few years and then spend money. The young players who are closest to the majors are most likely rookies in 2028, meaning it’s really more likely that we won’t be ready to compete with young players until 2029.

Pineapple12
Legend
10 hours ago

Lineup

Screenshot_20260830-103620
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Why no Neto?

Pineapple12
Legend
12 hours ago

I’m sticking in his corner. This is our franchise player and leader

โ€œWeโ€™ve been fighting all year and itโ€™s just not going our way right now. But weโ€™re not going to cry about it, moan about it. Weโ€™re going to flip the switch at midnight and come in tomorrow and try to avoid a sweep.โ€

Zach Neto on the Angels’ six-game losing streak

https://x.com/JackHaslett_13/status/2093947011339088119

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
11 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Zach is back baby!

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
11 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

That’s all good but at some point, you can’t just keep trying harder, you have to make changes and Zach isn’t mature enough to recognize that.

RexFregosi
Legend
13 hours ago

Fletch says are startings have a major-league best 2.57 ERA in August,

Give those boys the data.

Pineapple12
Legend
12 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Angels are a pitching factory now

MH252525
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

is part of that, because the Angels have put Siri and Meckler in the lineup more who are at least average OF defenders? I would have to think so.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  MH252525

It certainly doesn’t hurt.

Pineapple12
Legend
12 hours ago
Reply to  MH252525

Giving pitchers access to data and replacing O’Hoppe (the worst defensive catcher in baseball)

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

It’s hard for me to believe that access to the data would make that dramatic of a difference that quickly, but replacing O’Hoppe, I believe is the biggest contributor. The data has likely helped though.

BannedInLA
Legend
11 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Classic case of โ€œall of the aboveโ€.

Data
Better Defense
New GM
Player Maturation

โ€ฆโ€ฆ.

Suzukiโ€™s inspiring leadership. Haha

RexFregosi
Legend
13 hours ago

Roster update.

Today is the 24,000 day of having an Angel roster.

Blow the first pick of the draft on a pitcher who doesnโ€™t measure up?
Pick a future All Star shortstop?

Pick Player Position Selected from Selected by
1 Eli Grba Pitcher New York Yankees Los Angeles Angels
2 Bobby Shantzโ€ก Pitcher New York Yankees Washington Senators
3 Duke Maas Pitcher New York Yankees Los Angeles Angels
4 Dave Sisler Pitcher Detroit Tigers Washington Senators
5 Jerry Casale Pitcher Boston Red Sox Los Angeles Angels
6 Johnny Klippstein Pitcher Cleveland Indians Washington Senators
7 Tex Clevenger Pitcher Minnesota Twins Los Angeles Angels
8 Pete Burnside Pitcher Detroit Tigers Washington Senators
9 Bob Sprout Pitcher Detroit Tigers Los Angeles Angels
10 Carl Mathias Pitcher Cleveland Indians Washington Senators
11 Aubrey Gatewood Pitcher Detroit Tigers Los Angeles Angels
12 Ed Hobaugh Pitcher Chicago White Sox Washington Senators
13 Ken McBrideโ€ก Pitcher Chicago White Sox Los Angeles Angels
14 Hal Woodeshickโ€ก Pitcher Minnesota Twins Washington Senators
15 Ned Garverโ€ก Pitcher Kansas City Athletics Los Angeles Angels
16 Tom Sturdivant Pitcher Boston Red Sox Washington Senators
17 Ron Moeller Pitcher Baltimore Orioles Los Angeles Angels
18 Hรฉctor Maestri Pitcher Minnesota Twins Washington Senators
19 Bob Davis Pitcher Kansas City Athletics Los Angeles Angels
20 Rudy Hernรกndez Pitcher Minnesota Twins Washington Senators
21 Ed Sadowski Catcher Boston Red Sox Los Angeles Angels
22 Pete Daley Catcher Kansas City Athletics Washington Senators
23 Buck Rodgers Catcher Detroit Tigers Los Angeles Angels
24 Dutch Dotterer Catcher Kansas City Athletics Washington Senators
25 Eddie Yostโ€ก Third baseman Detroit Tigers Los Angeles Angels
26 Coot Veal Shortstop Detroit Tigers Washington Senators
27 Ken Aspromonte Second baseman Cleveland Indians Los Angeles Angels
28 Dale Longโ€ก First baseman New York Yankees Washington Senators
29 Ken Hamlin Shortstop Kansas City Athletics Los Angeles Angels
30 Jim Mahoney Shortstop Boston Red Sox Washington Senators
31 Gene Leek Third baseman Cleveland Indians Los Angeles Angels
32 Bob Johnson Shortstop Kansas City Athletics Washington Senators
33 Jim Fregosiโ€ก Shortstop Boston Red Sox Los Angeles Angels
34 Billy Klaus Second baseman Baltimore Orioles Washington Senators
35 Bob Cervโ€ก First baseman/Outfielder New York Yankees Los Angeles Angels
36 Johnny Schaive Second baseman Minnesota Twins Washington Senators
37 Ken Hunt Outfielder New York Yankees Los Angeles Angels
38 Willie Tasby Outfielder Boston Red Sox Washington Senators
39 Jim McAnany Outfielder Chicago White Sox Los Angeles Angels
40 Gene Woodlingโ€ก Outfielder Baltimore Orioles Washington Senators
41 Earl Averill Jr. Outfielder/Catcher Chicago White Sox Los Angeles Angels
42 Marty Keough Outfielder Cleveland Indians Washington Senators
43 Faye Throneberry Outfielder Minnesota Twins Los Angeles Angels
44 Chuck Hintonโ€ก Outfielder Baltimore Orioles Washington Senators
45 Ted Kluszewskiโ€ก First baseman Chicago White Sox Los Angeles Angels
46 Gene Green Catcher Baltimore Orioles Washington Senators
47 Donald Ross[c] Infielder Baltimore Orioles Los Angeles Angels
48 Bud Zipfel First baseman New York Yankees Washington Senators
49 Julio Bรฉcquer First baseman Minnesota Twins Los Angeles Angels
50 Jim King Outfielder Cleveland Indians Washington Senators
51 Dean Chanceโ€ก Pitcher Baltimore Orioles Los Angeles Angels
52 Joe Hicks Outfielder Chicago White Sox Washington Senators
53 Fred Newman Pitcher Boston Red Sox Los Angeles Angels
54 Chet Boak Second baseman Kansas City Athletics Washington Senators
55 Red Wilson Catcher Cleveland Indians Los Angeles Angels
56 Dick Donovanโ€ก Pitcher Chicago White Sox Washington Senators
57 Steve Bilko First baseman Detroit Tigers Los Angeles Angels
58 Leo Burke Third baseman Baltimore Orioles Washington Senators
59 Albie Pearsonโ€ก Outfielder Baltimore Orioles Los Angeles Angels
60 Haywood Sullivan Catcher Boston Red Sox Washington Senators
61 Joe McClain Pitcher Minnesota Twins Washington Senators

LeonWagner27
Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

And pick up a guy who would win a Cy Young Award for you (Dean Chance) and a guy who would lead the league for you in runs scored in 1962 (Albie Pearson) and a guy who would be the starting pitcher in the 1963 All Star Game (Ken McBride).

Texan44
Trusted Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  LeonWagner27

And the 41st pick was son of player that broke Dizzy Dean’s toe in an All Star game and RUINED his career.

LeonWagner27
Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  Texan44

Also, in June of 1962 while playing for the Angels, Earl Averill Jr. tied the MLB record for most consecutive plate appearances reaching base safely (17).

Texan44
Trusted Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

And I think Bobby Shantz was a player that was selected in two different expansion drafts.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I did not know Ted Kluszewski was once an Angel.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I don’t understand what this list is

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

It is the Angels Expansion draft to populate their original roster in 1961.

LeonWagner27
Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

You also need to add catcher Del Rice and infielder Rocky Bridges to this original Angel roster. They signed as free agents and would later become the Angelsโ€™ first base and third base coaches in 1962.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
13 hours ago

One thing yesterday – it was fun watching Harper trying to steal home. Have no idea how he was called safe initially. Have even less of an idea of how it was overturned. No way can you tell if his hand reached the base under the pads. I am guessing the ump called him safe because he looked for a tag first – then saw where Harper was – and when D’Arnaud came up – he could see Harper’s hand on the base. But Harper kept pushing forward. Saw no camera angle of Harper’s hand on or not on the plate. I thought he got it wrong – but don’t see how you overturn it. Still fun to see something tried you seldom see anymore.

Last edited 13 hours ago by HalosFanForLife
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 hours ago

I thought yesterday’s game had the worst umpiring for a crew I’ve seen all year.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
12 hours ago

That’s precisely how I felt. Call on the field was wrong, and the decision to overturn it was also wrong.

Texan44
Trusted Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

And not challenging the play at first was equally dumb. Ignorance ran wild all game.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
14 hours ago

I really think the MLBPA should put serious thought into how the MLB is proposing team minimums. That would add a lot of money into the kitty. Unfortunately, I think they are going to want their cake and eat it too. But you watch, these mega long term deals will be far and few in between – as so few of them are working out. For the average player, getting the small teams to spend will up pay for a lot of players.

In baseball, the worst teams win almost 40% of their games. In other sports, maybe 20%. We have teams at the bottom of the barrel in spending – are all competitive – with the Rays having the 2nd best record in baseball. The Brewers are 19th in spending, spending a little of 1/3 in payroll of the Dodgers. These teams that spend low but always compete won’t change that philosophy unless forced to. Then you have the Mets and Blue Jays, 2 and 5 in spending, each last in their divisions.

And who pays these contracts? The fans ultimately. Tickets, streaming services, concessions, merchandise. Some spending parity will make the game better.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
13 hours ago

Check this out and look at their records and where they stand.

Screenshot-2026-08-30-at-8.55.55โ€ฏAM
Texan44
Trusted Member
14 hours ago

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAA/2026.shtml

Using OPS+. Top 10. 4 of them no longer with the MLB team. (Lots of small sample sizes). Two are injured. Trout, Neto, Schanuel, Meckler, & Siri. All the rest are below league average. (That translate to AAAA or worse players.)

We see this every game.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  Texan44

And Siri is getting ready to go under 100. No stars, 1 above average, and 3 just 10% above average. The rest as you say don’t belong on the field. Only exception would be Guzman who is only 22 and we need to give some time to develop. As Turks mentioned previously, he is not far off from where Neto was at the same age. It’s a really bad team position player wise right now.

Pineapple12
Legend
15 hours ago

Mike Trout since 6/1
256 PA
.236 / .358 / .366
6 HR
10 doubles
28.5% K rate

2023 – present
1,566 PA
.241 / .364 / .455
49 doubles
74 HR
28.3% K rate

in high-leverage situations
2023 (72 PA)
.288 / .403 / .492

2024 (23 PA)
0.50 / .174 / .200

2025 (102 PA)
.206 / .402 / .384

2026 (82 PA)
.177 / .354 / .339

4 more years at $37 million per to watch a former all-time great precipitously decline. He refuses to move out of center for the betterment of the team despite being a pathetic risk-averse fielder. Call me a hater or whatever, it won’t change the fact that Trout sucks now

Texan44
Trusted Member
14 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Only because I am familiar with Astros, Hall of Famer Biggio, was willing to move from Catcher to 2nd Base, then was willing to give up 2nd base, so Hall of Famer Jeff Kent could play 2nd.

Same with possible Hall of Famer Altuve was willing to move off 2nd so an inferior player could play 2nd until he proved he couldn’t. (Neither were very good outfielders but did what was asked.)

Sometimes you see “ego” overtake “team player.”

BannedInLA
Legend
12 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I donโ€™t think itโ€™s some sort of rebellious act of courage to be a Trout critic at this juncture. Most criticize him – openly & often.

Itโ€™s sad to watch the decline to be sure. And yet, he would be our best option to bat leadoff right now.

That is more an indictment of the Angels organization than it is an aging player.

MH252525
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I won’t blame him for getting older and failing to catch up to 103 mph fastballs but I think he 100% should be blamed for not being introspective and wondering why his defensive metrics are poor and doing something about it. If he wanted to get at better at CF and asked literally anyone with an ounce of knowledge they would all tell him the same thing. Even our announcers highlight it and come close to acknowledging how inane his positioning is given the batters at the plate or the game situation. Why is he not looking at the numbers? Is he just looking at them and thinking that even with his still great footspeed that they are lying to him and he’s actually amazing as always in CF?

When he’s building golf courses and promoting his investment in Prime Time Golf it’s hard not to wonder is he actually doing everything he can to you know be the best baseball player he is being paid to do and help the Angels win ball games? At a minimum it’s a bad look IMO just as it was when CJ Wilson was buying and running car dealerships while still taking Arte’s money, as it was when Vernon Wells and Chris Iannetta were creating their own wine label. Maybe Trout has just grown up with a dysfunctional team that allowed that type of stuff, but I think any of us have the right to question how much he really wants to win and how much he’s happy with the good vibes all the players always rave about and living the good life as a hundred millionaire in the OC, even though they are consistently one of the worst teams in baseball.

MH252525
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  MH252525

Even last night, the Angels announcers were talking about how with Sanchez you have to layoff his down and away changeup. They said that right before Trout came up to the plate and missed it by a foot on a pitch that wound up way out of the zone. You know who came up and laid off it and took a walk, Jose Siri. Granted he swung at a low slider and fouled it off but you could tell it looked like he had a better gameplan than Trout against Sanchez. How much did Trout prepare for Sanchez? I mean he was on the team when Dipoto left specifically in part because he felt the coaching/manager wasn’t doing enough to make sure the players were prepped with the technology they did have. If he wasn’t taking advantage of it that’s not good. If he was using it and saw value in it then why didn’t he step up and side with Jerry instead of the 2 aging dinosaurs and help bring this team into the 21st century instead of forcing us to endure a decade plus of horrible baseball in part because the Angels apparently didn’t even start using technology with their pitchers until the past month.

BannedInLA
Legend
11 hours ago
Reply to  MH252525

I agree with most of that.

It also wasnโ€™t my argument.

My point was that Trout receives plenty of criticism. Much of it warranted.

And heโ€™s still our best leadoff option.

I also think itโ€™s likely that he wonโ€™t be in CF next season.

A GM is seemingly in place with enough authority to make logical decisions.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I certainly hope so.

Pineapple12
Legend
12 hours ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Ctpg has torn Neto to shreds and he’s about to finish his 3rd straight season as the team’s undisputed best player.

Trout doesn’t get enough criticism imo

BannedInLA
Legend
11 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Sure. Both are being critiqued. Loudly at that.

I think Neto will improve beyond this season, personally.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

They are both good players and they both deserve the criticism they have received.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Certainly defensively. He needs to DH after this year.

FungoAle
Legend
22 hours ago

This game was leaning Phillies before the 1st pitch was thrown. Angels were anemic on offense but against Sanchez, I was not expecting anything different. Going into extras, Angels could have stole one, nailing Marsh on a bone head attempt to get to 3rd, Angel mojo kicked in and still allowed Philly to put up 3-runs. Even if Trout did not stutter his feet and pull up on a very catchable fly ball, his arm would not have gotten the runner.

Game ball…no one was worthy. I’ll give it to Charles Sutton for the post-game write-up.

Last edited 22 hours ago by FungoAle
GonFishin
Trusted Member
21 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Iโ€™ll second that game ball nomination.

John Henry Weitzel
Editor
Super Member
21 hours ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Third. He is the mvp of the season.

John Henry Weitzel
Editor
Super Member
22 hours ago

I was at the game. It was both more thrilling and predictable at the same time. Bravo.

MH252525
Super Member
22 hours ago

I blame the traffic on the 57 freeway for the loss tonight. Had there been less traffic then Trout would have likely gotten to that “double” in the 10th. Instead he got delayed a bit on the 57 before scaling the OF fence and running in for 30 seconds before coming up just short. Better luck next time Trouty! Maybe go look at how you can design another golf course before you know…. look at your defensive metrics, realize they are crap based on your foot speed and then maybe analyze what is wrong, which anyone would tell you if you weren’t Mike Trout.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
22 hours ago

we’re right on the money for 100 losses. Works out to 61.94 wins so that’s 62. So few games left that if we actually won 11 to avoid the 100 losses we’d be playing at a .423 clip. Just that one extra win…. Our pct is .382. That’s not good.I’m curious what our record would be if games were called after 7 innings

GonFishin
Trusted Member
22 hours ago

Not the worst, but probably in the top 10 in terms of worst games Iโ€™ve been to from a product/entertainment standpoint.

Drinks were strong and fireworks were cool though.

Pineapple12
Legend
23 hours ago

Tank โœ…
Starting pitching ๐Ÿ“ˆ
Trout ๐Ÿšฟ๐Ÿงผ๐Ÿšฟ

steelgolf
Legend
23 hours ago

Trout for the final out – poetic. He managed to Yang the offense part of the Yin he did on defense. Amazing !!

52
0
Would love your thoughts, please comment.x
()
x