Angels Clobber Rays 11-1

It was a morning game for the Angels, hoping to win their 4th series to start the season, they turned to Jose Soriano. He went 7 and 2/3 innings, giving up 1 runs on 5 hits, striking out 4 and walking 3. Good job.

Statistically, this was good

But today wasn’t about pitching, or defense, or anything like that. It was about DINGRZ. Home run after home run today, circling the bases and giving people hope. Jo Adell in particular was exciting, hitting 2 home runs in the 5th! But Ward also hit 2 of his own, and even Mike Trout got in on it! Triple double! Err, Home Run! 3 x 2 Home Runs!

Highlighted Recap

Taylor Ward struck first with a leadoff home run to start the game!

1-0 Angels

In the 2nd, the Angels added another run with an RBI double by Nolan.

2-0 Angels

Unfortunately, Soriano gave up a run in the 4th off of 2 solid hits.

2-1 Angels

That was fine, since Jo Adell got that run right back in the 5th!

3-1 Angels

And Taylor Ward hit his second of the day as well.

5-1 Angels

But wait! There is more! Mike Trout got one as well!

7-1 Angels

You know what, go for 10. Jo Adell agrees and hits his second home run of the inning!

10-1 Angels!

That is 4 Home runs in the inning, wow!

Adell hit 2 home runs, Ward hit 2 home runs, what about Trout? Well, in the 9th, he did as well.

11-1 Angels

Soriano went deep, (7 and 2/3 innings) and the bullpen got the last 4 easy outs for a very satisfying Angels Win! They won their first 4 series of the year for the first time since 2018!

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The Angels go over to Houston for 3 games this weekend before going to the other Texas team in the Rangers. 6 more road games in the next 7 days. But hey, at least they are division games.

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LittleCupcakes
Newbie
8 days ago

This victory moved the Angels’ run differential to positive territory. They are now alone in that in the AL West.

The Angels have scored 20 more runs than first-place Texas (in one fewer game) and have given up three more runs.

You know, pythag and all that rot.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  LittleCupcakes

How many times do I have to say it; run differential means very, very little. I mean, you wouldn’t want your team to be last in that, but any where in the middle is fine. Most MLB games are not blowouts anyway. The important thing is that your team knows how to win close games and is good at winning close games. Give me the best record in close games and I’ll take that any day of the week.

LittleCupcakes
Newbie
7 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Well, I was writing more in the vein of the positive RD as a “milestone marker” and (obviously failing) to make a funny by referencing the old-timey HH Pythag meme from the early Scioscia years (the Angels often outperformed Pythag way back in those long-ago times).

But hey, I’m with you. I also prefer the amount of wins rather than a solid run differential. I also prefer wins to the amount of homers, shutouts, and total bases.

I also prefer using run differential instead of 1-run-margin wins to predict (or describe) the quality of a team. Close games are statistically noisy with a more significant luck factor, and so I don’t take them (and the related “clutchiness”) overly seriously as a predictive or descriptive statistic of a team’s inherent quality level.

But of course I love them wins most of all, no matter their fashion!!

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
8 days ago

Dang doctor appointments missed game although watching the rerun game and topped off the day with leaking water heater. So happy for the team and having 3 guys Homer with one 2 in same inning is impressive indeed. Soriano is a stud, in a minor league park not allowing much in the air. DP’s all over the place. Keep it going Angels, keep it going Boys.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
8 days ago

Just watched the 5th inning. (Angels games on cable here in Hawaii!). They made it look so easy!

ErSTAN
Trusted Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

I owe my employer some money back after today. Not very productive from 10-12:30.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

Well we wont tell him if you dont.

ErSTAN
Trusted Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Shiiiii. Snitches get stitches…Im a government employee. Only person who can unfairly fire me is Trump. 😳

WallyChuckChili
Legend
8 days ago

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BannedInLA
Super Member
8 days ago

Adell’s homers were both majestic and Trout’s 2nd jack was perfect. When he’s hitting C-to-Right Center, he’s locked in.

Trout_is_my_Bestie
Member
8 days ago

It’s hard not to fantasize about this potential lineup:

  1. Paris 2B
  2. Rengifo 3B
  3. Trout RF
  4. Ward LF
  5. Soler DH
  6. O’Hoppe C
  7. Schanuel 1B
  8. Neto SS
  9. Adell CF

Apart from Paris and Trout at the top of the order and Adell at the bottom, everyone else feels interchangeable at many spots in the order, which is a good thing! I don’t foresee many black holes in the lineup this year.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 days ago

Next season, if we keep Neeeefo, Moore rotates in/through DH with the regulars-Like Edmonds/Erstad/Salmon/Anderson did.

Last edited 8 days ago by Angelz4ever
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Moore is not even an accomplished minor league hitter yet, much less a major league one. I would not be shocked to not see Moore on the opening day roster next year. It’s a long year so a lot can change. I don’t know what the chances are of keeping Rengifo.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Well, thus far he’s hitting .091. But then, what would you expect from a guy cheap Arte had stupid Perry draft overslot to save money?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago

I’m not saying anything other than he has some hitting weaknesses to overcome and he’s working on that. I hope he’s successful. I have no idea how he will turn out nor am I predicting anything. But, at this point, looking at him in college, and last year and this year, He has yet to provide any evidence for immediate success or being in the majors next year. That could change starting tomorrow. If he’s all ready to go and be a starter in 2027, I would be thrilled.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Watch out for that chasm broseph

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
8 days ago

For all the lineups posted around these parts, surprised very few place Rengifo at leadoff. He really does have some of his best numbers there.

Career splits
First batter of the game: .275/.351/.549
Leading off an inning: .278/.344/.460
Batting first in the lineup: .284/.327/.500

Career OPS is a touch below .700 in the two-spot – not his best situational post. Career OPS north of .800 at leadoff, three-hole and cleanup. (He has his worst numbers batting 6-9.)

Rengifo clearly thrives being part of the action. (Though there’s always a little circularity in these arguments, as he’s probably in cycles of underperformance when he’s dropped lower in the order.)

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I agree, I actually like him at lead off.

Trout_is_my_Bestie
Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Great observation! I just saw a career OBP of .312 and assumed he wouldn’t get on base enough to bat first.

Moving Paris to the #2 hole also provides him the protection of batting in front of Trout, which should help maximize his potential.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Stats. So lame.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
8 days ago

Yet it’s what we have to work with, unless you’re like those managers into grit, veteran instinct and gut feelings.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Wash does. I don’t get the idea he’s a numbers guy even though he’s been exposed to it. Some people still believe baseball is 70% pitching.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Born_in_59

I prefer to listen to my heart

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

And he has good speed. I hate seeing “slow” guys bat leadoff.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I actually did suggest this the other day TT. Two or three people immediately countered that it was a bad idea based on last year’s numbers. I pointed out that his OBP this season is better and it is a new year.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Yep but how much of that was done left handed Turks? It’s definitely skewed by his abnormal platoon splits. I’m sure the Angels have data and it’s less appealing against RHPs

JackFrost
Super Member
8 days ago

Having Neto batting 8th is a pretty dangerous lineup. I’d venture to say no team has a number 8 hitter that good.

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
8 days ago

I would love to see this
Rengifo
Paris
Trout
Soler
Neto
O’Hoppe
Schanuel
Ward
Adell

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

I get the temptation to move Paris up in the order but, why ratchet up the pressure when he’s doing fine where he’s at? I’d let Neto bat 2nd once he’s acclimated.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 days ago

Reposting up here to foster abusive retorts, LOL

I think the following would be good over cap MLB penalties with teeth:
First offense, no changes to current penalties
Second offense, double international $ penalty and lose second round draft pick and ineligible to offering QOs
Third offense, lose first & second round draft pick, lose all international $, ineligible to offering QOs
Fourth offense, lose 1st-3rd draft picks, lose all international $, ineligible to offering QOs, some form of free agency signing restriction.
Fifth offense, really!?
Also, for those teams (Dodgers) that play the game of being over two years, then pause a year, then go two more, to avoid a third penalty:
Example: 2023 & 2024 over limit, salary dump in 2025, go back over in 2026, it should revert to 2nd offense status effective the 2026 season. One under season only removes one over season.
It’s not gonna happen though as, just like no traveling calls in the NBA, money is being made, thus no negative changes will be made, and the MLBPA is one of the strongest unions in the world.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 days ago

I’m still kinda numb, though still early season, but nice to feel off-balance with the team doing so well.

Beating up on the Asstros this weekend will make me feel much better.  😀 

Go Halos!

Mia
Legend
Mia
8 days ago

I’m still waiting for Lucy to pull the football away…

Been burned too many times. But this is the best Angels baseball in years.

Just please let it last and everyone stays relatively healthy.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  Mia

Rec x 10

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Mia

I don’t think that will happen if you’re realistic which Believe you are. The team is both better than many of us expected and they have had some luck as well. Been pretty injury free so far and the injuries will come. Our depth is fairly minimal so the injuries may Impact things. We have had outstanding pitching so far which is not likely to go on all year. it will be a mix. Considering our division, it would not be a miracle if we won it, but it will be a challenge for us to finish ahead of Texas. Everything is going right for us right now so we should enjoy it while it lasts. A lot of things that have occurred so far may not continue but other good things will happen. It’s a long season, It will be nice to see how the draft goes and how the expected trades go as well as to watch the minor leaguers. There is reason to be optimistic going forward into next year and the year after.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Agree about the pitching. I have a hard time believing that Hendricks and Anderson will continue to pitch as well as they have. But as I suggested a few weeks back, if one is demoted to long relief then maybe Detmers can step in and grab the bull by the horns ??

DowningDude
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  Mia

We sure are a bunch of blockheads.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  Mia

I always thought you were Lucy.

Fansince1971
Legend
8 days ago

Great game. Great series.

smithy610
Super Member
8 days ago

Last year the Angels couldn’t even beat the teams they should beat – White Sox went 4-2 against the Angels.

So it’s refreshing to see them beat decent teams, and beat them convincingly. Even last night’s loss was very close until the end.

This team is fun to watch. About time we do good on veteran signings and catch a break from the forever-maligned farm system.

Twebur
Legend
8 days ago

EAT IT DOYERS

MLB considering pushing for a salary cap, per report

https://x.com/mikehuntley63/status/1910402914902040986

JackFrost
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

In a sense it is too late; Ohtani, Freeman, Yamamoto etc are already on the Dodgers. That can’t be undone.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I Disagree on this one Frosty. If the cap is established, give teams a year or so to comply it would then force violating teams to shed salary in the near term which may in turn prevent them from re-signing their young talent before free agency if they want to keep the older players.

I’m actually more in favor of massively stronger penalties for going over the thresholds than as much as a hard cap. And certainly wouldn’t mind a floor if it is needed. Although I dont see baseball ever making this work unless they can agree to more realistic revenue sharing.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I would take the hard cap because I don’t think even strong penaties would deter the Guggenheim group and any future owners with that mindset and those deep pockets.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I think the following would be good over cap MLB penalties with teeth:

First offense, no changes to current penalties
Second offense, double international $ penalty and lose second round draft pick and ineligible to offering QOs
Third offense, lose first & second round draft pick, lose all international $, ineligible to offering QOs
Fourth offense, lose 1st-3rd draft picks, lose all international $, ineligible to offering QOs, some form of free agency signing restriction.
Fifth offense, really!?

Also, for those teams (Dodgers) that play the game of being over two years, then pause a year, then go two more, to avoid a third penalty:

Example: 2023 & 2024 over limit, salary dump in 2025, go back over in 2026, it should revert to 2nd offense status effective the 2026 season. One under season only removes one over season.

It’s not gonna happen though as, just like no traveling calls in the NBA, money is being made, thus no negative changes will be made, and the MLBPA is one of the strongest unions in the world.

Last edited 8 days ago by Angelz4ever
Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I disagree with your disagree…LOL

MLB cannot undue an (At the time) lawful contract, and lawful (Lack of) ramifications, it will grandfather.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

As long as it includes a salary floor, I’m an attentive listener to the argument. Spending constraints work reasonably well for the draft.

(I also think there should be a floor for systemic farm investment, but that’s me.)

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

100% – NHL has a floor and it makes for some interesting maneuvering when you *have* to take on some salary.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

(I also think there should be a floor for systemic farm investment, but that’s me.)

I have hard a time with this one TT. As stoopid as it may seem, If Scrooge McNutting and Evil Arte want to serve their minor leaguers Wish Sandwiches and put them up in clown houses that should be their prerogative. (Provided they aint breaking any laws of course) Its their team so if they are too ignorant to realize how this detrimentally affects their franchise’s success they can mire in their own Perennial losing.

Like it or not for fans but there will always be winners and losers. Unfortunately we’ve been on the losing end now for quite awhile. But we certainly aren’t alone. Go talk to a Manchester United Fan about their team and the Glazer family. And thats a sports league that has relegation.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

It’s as simple as strengthening an embryonic minor league players union, and advocating for better wages and benefits. If one can normalize a player’s union at the MLB level, why not normalize a strengthened MiLB players union?

There are many nations around the world that support collective bargaining, and the strongest period of manufacturing in this nation coincided with strong worker’s unions. I’m not a Randian billionaires win because natural law blah blah guy. I get that’s not a traditional OC take. But sorry – screw celebration of cruelty for cruelty’s sake. Gonna advocate for the little guy until I die.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Would a players union in the MiLB really fix investment in the farm, or just pay players more? I only have my limited experience looking at a couple clubs and then my past teammates/friends who made it to pro ball. So I’m not sure this is how it always works.

But it seems like MiLB teams rosters are under the MLB teams control. Everything else is a cat wrangle. The city owns the stadium and it’s facilities and can switch teams out. The MLB team can move. If they are rich they can build their own thing like the Doyers. The MiLB org handles where some players live, usually shared housing. Another pile of bonus babies get their own place. The MLB/MiLB clubs AND the stadium or host city (sometimes) handle food and supplements to an extent. Players also buy their own food, with again bonus babies eating better and getting better vitamins and crap. Facilities, med staff, training rooms, weight rooms, locker rooms…. some MLB teams can pay into that and upgrade, some teams can’t because they have no say in what happens to the building they don’t own…. it’s a mess.

Of course the best thing would be for an MLB team to just own their MiLB clubs and facilities…. there are a handful of MiLB clubs owned by the parent club like the Tampa Yankees. But that’s a big ask….

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Twebur

Although the NBA and NFL salary caps haven’t prevented “super teams” from being built.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
8 days ago

I don’t agree that the NFL has ever had super teams built unfairly through free agency. Teams that are well-constructed have the opportunity to augment their already-good roster with smart additions and salary cap maneuvering but its nowhere close to what the Dodgers are doing in baseball right now.

The NFL maintains a pretty high level of competitive parity year after year, IMO. Of course there will be teams that are better than everyone else, that’s how sport works.

Now in the NBA, I agree you do see elite players team up occasionally, but those rosters are usually more of the stars and scrubs variety. Still not quite as egregious as what the Dodgers have been able to do this year.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Yah. NFL losers are where they are because they royally screwd up. Not because they get outspent by the better teams.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
8 days ago

Yes, NFL teams lose because they let Saquan Barkley leave and instead sign Daniel Jones to a huge contract. If you’re curious, my NFL team is the Giants. Could you tell?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Twebur

Please YES! Though I think a salary FLOOR is even more important.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

No way the union agrees to a salary cap.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Honestly, it doesn’t matter in the short term as former Halo employee #17, and other deferred contracts, are going to grandfather in. No way they retroactively enforce it. Besides, the new CBA is not that far off, and I think we all agree the MLBPA have a different view than the league on deferred contracts.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
8 days ago

I feel like the Angels tend to do poorly against TB, so it’s really nice to win this series.

clover_black
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

The Guardians have also owned the Angels throughout the years.

Twebur
Legend
8 days ago

We are so badass now, our plane has already landed in Houston after entering Texas air space…..on our hopium fuled time traveling space jet, after having our way in Tampa. Onward and upward!

https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1910377456286028125

Cowboy26
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Houston YOU have a problem.

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I hope you’re right.

tanana40
Super Member
8 days ago

Well this is fun. For the first time in many years, the Angels are on my mind throughout the day and the game is a central part of my day. I know, I know, it’s early but let’s enjoy this for now.

Rick Souddress
Editor
Trusted Member
8 days ago
Reply to  tanana40

Same. It’s been a good few years now since I last felt like I obsessively need to read articles about baseball all day

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Rick Souddress

I’ve watched Adell’s HRs on loop for the last 3 hours lol

DowningDude
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’m sitting down to catch the replay of the game as I was busy in the salt mines earlier.

dwood78
Member
8 days ago

After a disastrous season, it’s just great to see The Halos showing that they mean business 2 weeks into 2025 & winning every series thus far. But the thing is, can they keep it up? I long for the day they that become “Astros-proof” as in the next team they’re going to face. The Angels gotta start getting them team in check if it wants to stay high in the AL West standings. I don’t ever wanna see what happened last season repeat itself!

Kevin
Member
8 days ago
Reply to  dwood78

We will see. Of course, the other issue is against Houston the rotation is the 3-4-5 starters which isn’t exactly ideal. Hopefully they are meeting the same tier for the Astros.

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Kevin

Houston has a lot of pitchers on TJ or shoulder recovery and that one guy who just broke his thumb. The Angels might be catching them at a good time.

Framber is still OK, though.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Framber has been very good so far this year …He had one bad outing and two fantastic outings.

Last edited 8 days ago by JackFrost
willb
Member
8 days ago

Great summary! Let’s do this more often.

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
8 days ago

Do we have a real ACE?

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

I think we do. At the very least, we have an excellent front end starter.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Ultimately, we need an ace and Soriano or Soriano and a solid #2 to go with the rest of our starters.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Will Jamie Arnold be ready by October?

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I agree. It feels like it’s been a while since we’ve had a legit #2 so I’m happy we have Soriano. I’d be confident starting him in any playoff game. (Did I just say playoff game in connection with the Angels?)

JackFrost
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Except Soriano is OUR #1. It would be great if we had a true ace and he was our # 2.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Everytime this framing comes around, I ask how many ‘true aces’ are there in the league right now?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

He’s not Skubal…. so not an ace. I usually look to see if a guy is top 20 in starter WAR and WHIP. If he is, he’s an ace.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
8 days ago

That means you likely never had more than half the league with an ace (and at most 20 players if WAR and WHIP align).

JackFrost
Super Member
8 days ago

Probably, that is correct.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

There might on any given year be 10 or fewer Aces. This year it might be less…. That is why they are so valuable and worth paying for ….

Especially in the playoffs their importance becomes so apparent and obvious.

Last edited 8 days ago by JackFrost
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  JackFrost

So…. really we don’t need an ace and a couple #2s (in your book) would be fine. Honestly, an entire staff of Soriano and four un-injured Joe Musgroves would probably have a shot at making it to the WS.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago

I agree, another Soriano with what we already have would be formidable.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Mikeal1st

It would seem we have a #2, a #3 and a bunch of #4’s and #5’s

As long as they are winning, it just don’t matter!

Twebur
Legend
8 days ago

Better than the WSC 2002 team?

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Yeah, what we had there was an absolutely fantastic bullpen.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
8 days ago

This.

Solid talent and rotation depth but maybe not as elite as you’d like to see. Especially when you think of playoff teams that have a loaded 3 man rotation.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago

And, Neto will be returning shortly!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Man. Neither Adell HR was cheap and that 2nd one was slaughtered. Here’s hoping he’s getting a feel for things. he looked smooth swinging too.

I’m concerned about Soriano though. That low K rate. Obviously he kind of sucks. Clearly Paris is washed now too.

What else was wrong today? I’ll think on it and present us with a list later….

PedroCerrano
Super Member
8 days ago

Good to see from Adel, would like to see him figure it out. Trout and Ward will be good imo.

Best part for me was the starter getting the bullpen some rest.

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