Postgame Angels Loss 11-9

The Angels had a commanding lead in the AL West. Today was the acid test. Today was Reid Detmers day. How did it go? Detmers struck out nine.

Inning 1

Zach Neto added to the strikeout total. Mike Trout flied out to deep right field. Nolan Schanuel also flied out to right. When the Astros came up, Jose Altuve struck out. Yordan Alvarez was hit by a pitch right above the elbow. Isaac Paredes flied out to shallow right center. Carlos Correa struck out.

Inning 2

Jorge Soler walked. Yoan Moncada grounded into a double play. Jo Adell grounded out. Christian Walker doubled down into the left field corner. Cam Smith got a dangerous single right at Reid Detmers at 102 MPH. Yainer Diaz struck out. So did Jake Meyers. So did Brice Matthews.

Inning 3

Josh Lowe walked. Logan O’Hoppe promptly hit into a double play. Oswald Peraza homered. 1-0 Angels.

Zach Neto grounded out to second. Jose Altuve lined out to Trout in center.

Yordan Alvarez doubled down into the right field corner. Isaac Paredes flied out to deep left field. Carlos Correa popped out to O’Hoppe in foul territory.

Inning 4

Mike Trout walked. Nolan Schanuel flied out to short. Jorge Soler homered to make it 3-0 Angels.

Yoan Moncada was immediately hit by a pitch. Jo Adell flied out to left and Josh Lowe flied out to right. For the Astros, Christian Walker struck out. Cam Smith struck out and Yainer Diaz grounded out.

Inning 5

Logan O’Hoppe was hit by a pitch to start the inning. Ozwald Peraza bunted for a single. Zach Neto walked to load the bases for Mike Trout. Trout got a base hit. 4-0 Angels.

Nolan Schanuel grounded into a double play but drove in another run. 5-0 Angels.

Kai-Wei Teng came in to replace Christian Javier on the mound. Jorge Soler walked. Then Teng uncorked a wild pitch to make it 6-0 Angels.

Yoan Moncada then grounded out.

Jake Meyers lined a hit to left field. Brice Matthews struck out. Jose Altuve singled out toward left. Yordan Alvarez struck out. Isaac Paredes bounced one off the left field wall to score two. 6-2 Angels. That brought Walbert Urena in to stop the bleeding. Carlos Correa got a base hit to left field to make it 6-3 Angels. Christian Walker reached on an error by Yoan Moncada. Cam Smith hit into a force out.

Inning 6

Jo Adell flied out to right. Josh Lowe struck out. Logan O’Hoppe popped out to second base. Yainer Diaz grounded out to Zach Neto.

Jake Meyer reached base on a throwing error by Walbert Urena. It was a ball tapped in front of the plate area rather than a botched pick off play. Joey Loperfido got a pinch hit single to put men at first and third with one out. Jose Altuve struck out. Yordan Alvarez was batting When a wild pitch made it 6-4 Angels. The Angels then intentionally walked Alvarez. Isaac Paredes walked. Carlos Correa hit a two run dribbler in fron of the plate. A throwing error by O’Hoppe was involved. 6-6 tie. Christian Walker got an infield single to make it 7-6 Astros. Now newcomer Joey Lucchesi replaced Walbert Urena. Cam Smith walked to load the bases again. Yainer Diaz grounded to the right to score two more. 9-6 Astros. Jake Meyers doubled to make it 11-6 Astros. Joey Loperfido finally made the third out, grounding out to second base.

Inning 7

Oswald Peraza singled to center field. Zach Neto flied out to right field. Peraza made it to second base. Mike Trout grounded out to third. Nolan Schanuel struck out. Jose Altuve then walked. Yordan Alvarez singled on the ground to right and Joey Lucchesi was replaced by Brent Suter. There was a kind of double rundown play, but the lead runner Altuve was out between third and home. Isaac Paredes struck out and Carlos Correa grounded out.

Inning 8

Jorge Soler walked. Yoan Moncada struck out. Jo Adell flied out to right. and Josh Lowe struck out. Christian Walker walked, of course. Cam Smith grounded out to the pitcher. Yainer Diaz struck out looking. Jake Meyers flied out to right.

Inning 9

Logan O’Hoppe struck out. Oswald Peraza also struck out. Zach Neto walked. Zach Neto then stole second while Mike Trout batted. Trout also walked. Nolan Schanuel homered to make it 11-9 Astros.

Jorge Soler struck out looking. The Angels lost 11-9.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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bobblanton
Super Member
1 month ago

I would have kept peraza in the lineup and set Soler or moncada

bobblanton
Super Member
1 month ago

I prefer Strickland over Anderson

bobblanton
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Actually if not bringing up someone other than Strickland I would have left urena. I don’t remember Anderson ever being good

MarineLayer
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Anderson does NOT belong on a major league roster.

MarineLayer
Legend
1 month ago

Congratulations to Robert Stephenson, this year’s winner of the Tony RenDone award. See ya down the road.

steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

tanana40
Super Member
1 month ago

Well, we scored nine runs, so there is that.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago

Lineup today

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smithy610
Super Member
1 month ago

It was probably planned anyway with the day game after night game. But I’m glad to see O’Hoppe ride the bench. He needs a mental reset. It was inning over after that Correa roller with the game tied.

smithy610
Super Member
1 month ago

I didn’t have any issue with Suzuki sticking with Urena. Season is young and this is how your young pitchers get experience and grow. Maybe there is an argument for not putting back Urena in the sixth after he barely escaped the fifth, and seeing he has no control. But the argument for that is that all the runs scored were with two outs, the inning was almost over a lot of times. Urena had to essentially get six outs in one inning.

I put the blame more on O’Hoppe. He is now a semi-veteran catcher at this point and it was on him to lead Urena. There was no need to chase after that Correa slow roller. Let Urena get it and get the force out at home. It was bases loaded, that was the easiest out. What was he thinking trying to get the out at first?

Other than that, offense looked good and still consistent. Good to see bombs from Soler and Nolan. That bases loaded hit from Trout was great. Reid looked good, but need to find a way to pitch deeper into games.

Last edited 1 month ago by smithy610
MarineLayer
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Logan is broken. Don’t know if there’s a fix.

bobblanton
Super Member
1 month ago

What’s the lineup like today. Do we have Frazier darnaud and candelario playing and sit Soler moncada and O’Hoppe

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  bobblanton

It is a typical white flag line up that includes Soler playing defense.

steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Oh shit! Soler is playing in Right Field? I’ll cue up Yakkety Sax. 🫣

Last edited 1 month ago by steelgolf
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Adell is also in CF. Today’s game must be an exhibition. We can’t chase wins everyday.

steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago

O’Sloppe the error machine better tighten up his defense and learn to throw to his target.

JackFrost
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Ha ha. I think you came up with a good one golf !!

O’Sloppe.

Oh so sloppy !

Last edited 1 month ago by JackFrost
steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

When you make not one, but 2 horrible throws to first, nowhere near where he should be putting the throw, that is just sloppy and rushing the throw. I can expect that in Littke League and the High School levels, but not in the MLB

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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“We will win some games”

ryanfea
Super Member
1 month ago

O’Hoppe has absolutely stunnnnnnk so far

ErSTAN
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

He’s been so bad.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ryanfea

He lost his mojo last year and still hasn’t found it

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I did not like the Suzuki hire when it happened. I like it MUCH less after 3 games.

Out of his depth.

Last edited 1 month ago by Jimmuscomp
ErSTAN
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

It’s 3 games. Let’s give him until memorial day before we crucify him.

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

Why? He mismanaged the pen day 1. Got lucky.

Then completely crapped the bed day 3.

Started Logan all three games when he was clearly struggling.

Left a rookie arm in to implode on the road.

Looked afraid to do his job.

Weak.

ErSTAN
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

O’Hoppe looks bad…

Kevin
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

He’s 2 and 1. I didn’t love all of the decisions, but he gets credit for winning two straight on the road also.

clover_black
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

Imagine thinking a manager on a 1 year deal has any impact on this roster

JackFrost
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  clover_black

The 1 year deal is all about the lockout coming next year.

angelslogic
Legend
1 month ago

BOTG:
1. Suzuki
2. Urena

ErSTAN
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Imo, Suzuki trying to instill confidence. Kinda reminded me of early Scioscia. Urena has definitely not been good, but kinda unlucky no…?

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

I think he pulls him early and tells the kid great job would instill better confidence. I was dumbfounded. I loved him pulling Detmers – not worrying about getting him a W. Then the next inning and I kept waiting. I said, that’s got to be it too many times. (But I get what he was trying to do)

Last edited 1 month ago by HalosFanForLife
ErSTAN
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I agree, but I prefer a manager to let young talented arm to figure it out. It’s not like he was terrible. Lots of soft contact. Bigger issue is Detmers for me. He’s not a starter.

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

He’s absolutely a starter. Has been HIS WHOLE LIFE. His stuff plays as a starter. What are you talking about?

To watch that and say Detmers is the problem is to see 9/11 and think we need to invade Iraq.

ErSTAN
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

Lol. We taking back to Iraq? He throws too many pitches. He can’t get through five with a 6 run lead.

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

Yeah. He throws too many pitches. But his stuff plays as a starter. He is wasted as a 1 inning BP guy on this team. We are going nowhere. Let him cook and see if he can handle starting.
Seems to me he can.

Mostly.

angelslogic
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

After a throwing error, single, wild pitch, and a walk in the 6th inning, Urena should have been pulled.

ErSTAN
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Who would you have brought in?

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

Suter to face Yordan.

Next question?

Last edited 1 month ago by Jimmuscomp
MarineLayer
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Yes, Suzuki really screwed up yesterday after doing well in the first two games. His true self will emerge quickly. The good news was removed from the 26 man before he can do any more damage.

JackFrost
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

Agree. Walbert actually has really good stuff. But he’s young. He did make a bad throw which really started that big inning, so it was self-inflicted. And of course there will be growing pains with young pitchers/players. But agree that there was more than a little bad luck there.

Last edited 1 month ago by JackFrost
Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  angelslogic

1) Suzuki
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2) Ureña

Fixed that for ya.

JackFrost
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Can’t believe nobody has mentioned Moncada.That was a boneheaded play. We were lucky no more damage came immediately after.

Last edited 1 month ago by JackFrost
HalosFanForLife
Super Member
1 month ago

Did Suzuki have money on the Astros?

Last edited 1 month ago by HalosFanForLife
BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

I’ll take 2/3 all day, every day.

JackFrost
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Except there is still one more game. One VERY important game. A loss tomorrow would really dampen the weekend, only taking a split after being up 2-0 in series and then 6-0 in third game.

Quite an important game tomorrow.

Last edited 1 month ago by JackFrost
clover_black
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Probably the least important game of the year.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Course correction appreciated. I’ve been mostly checked out on baseball (and ball sports in genera) so I didn’t realize this was a 4 game set.

To your point, I’ll still be “happy” with a split against Houston – our nemesis for the past decade.

I’m also not going to indulge the b*tch made hysterics that Suzuki is the worst thing since brain cancer. We’re 3 games in, relax.

Mostly, I’m happy
to see Michael Nelson Trout look like Michael Nelson Trout.

Let’s grab tomorrow.

Also, the UFC scorched tonight.

JackFrost
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Yeah, I mean it is just crazy to crucify a manager after three games. Especially when he has a winning record ! Yesterday was how shall we say, “unfortunate.”

I think our bullpen is a work in progress and frankly one of the areas I am really worried about. Unlike last season when going in the starters were my big concern, this year it is the pen. I mean, Joyce can’t get healthy, Stephenson likewise and a bunch of other guys we dont know about. It may take Kurt a few weeks to figure this out. I just hope we don’t see 4-5 blown saves over that period.

Last edited 1 month ago by JackFrost
ErSTAN
Trusted Member
1 month ago

First brutal loss…im sure there will be many more. BUT, kinda unlucky in the big inning with the swinging bunts. AND they showed some balls in coming back. Interested to see how they come out tomorrow after a nut kicking.

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

First avoidable loss.

ErSTAN
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jimmuscomp

Blowing a 6 run lead suboptimal.

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