LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Outright

This article is about internal options for the Angels starting rotation. I think it is kind of depressing. Meanwhile, the Angels DFAd Cody Laweryson to make room for Yoan Moncada. The Angels outrighted Wade Meckler to Triple-A Salt Lake City.

It looks like the Angels are going to go with MLB.tv for their broadcasts.

The Reds signed Eugenio Suarez to a one year deal worth $15 Million. The Orioles acquired infielder Bryan Ramos from the White Sox for cash. The Guardians re-signed Kolby Allard to a minor league deal. The Mariners acquired Brendan Donovan. Matt Bowman got a minor league deal with the Twins. Right-hander Valente Bellozo got his minor league deal with the Rockies. The Red Sox and Vinny Nittoli came to an agreement on a minor league deal.

Avisail Garcia retired.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Mikeal1st
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2 hours ago

MLB.tv? Does that mean we can watch the games here? No blackouts?

cookmeister
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1 hour ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

nothing is finalized, but pretty easy to click the link and read

The Padres, Diamondbacks, Rockies, Twins and Guardians were with the league in 2025. In those instances, the league largely kept TV broadcasts the same, retaining most of the personnel. For fans, this arrangement worked better as it did not involve local blackouts. Customers without cable packages could buy streaming packages directly from the league.”

Jeff Joiner
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53 minutes ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

I looked at how the Padres deal works and wrote this piece.

Looks like a move to MLB.TV would make me finally cut the cable cord. Angels and Bloomberg are about the only two networks I watch outside of ESPN/FS1 which I can get on streams.

ryanfea
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8 hours ago

The epic battle for the last few roster spots is now between Jeimer Candelario, Nick Madrigal, Trey Mancini, Oswald Peraza, Vaughn Grissom, Donovan Walton, Kyren Paris, Jose Siri, Bryce Teodosio & Wade Meckler.

Theoretically one of them could also beat out Christian Moore for the 2nd base job.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  ryanfea

I don’t think Moore’s anywhere close to a lock for 2B or a roster spot. I think he’s a 50/50 guy who may show up at camp having worked his ass off and land the gig, but I think it’s just as likely we have Grissom, Madrigal, Walton and Paris ahead of him at 2nd base and he’s in AA learning to play LF and not miss the ball with his bat so much.

He hit a double one time and stuck his tongue out. Those are his MLB qualifications thus far. That’s even frothier than Paris’s strong spring and two weeks of hitting before enough video existed for pitchers to adjust.

I actually think Moore’s a fine hitting prospect and is young enough to learn 2B or the OF well and be a solid MLB player. He’s just not there yet as of the end of 2025.

ryanfea
Super Member
6 hours ago

Yeah I don’t necessarily disagree with that. Moore just seems like the sexier pick for 2nd especially considering the way the Angels have done the trial by fire approach to our first rounders in the majors.

I also forgot about Denzer Guzman who could also figure in somewhere.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  ryanfea

“Murderers’ Row” it ain’t…….

BruinsAngelsKings
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5 hours ago

They will certainly murder the scorebook with all of the k’s.

Jeff Joiner
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3 hours ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Peraza and Grissom are out of options and have to make the team or be exposed to waivers. So they have an advantage.

Granted, if they aren’t good enough to make this team they will likely clear waivers, but still.

Roy Hobbs
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8 hours ago

From the discussion yesterday, why would Arte keep the club if it’s losing money?

milehigh
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8 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

IIRC, there have been years were Arte did say the org lost money. I don’t think Arte sells until he’s on his deathbed. Not trying to be snarky, but I don’t think he will just give up.

Fansince1971
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8 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

A couple of reasons:

1. It’s an ego driver to own a MLB franchise. It likely feeds his ego as an 80 year old man giving him relevance he would not otherwise have;

2. It’s the type of limited asset that seems to get more valuable even if mismanaged. So the longer he owns it the more valuable he perceives it to be.

RexFregosi
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8 hours ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

another big one – who knows if he has big real estate plans for the Stadium?
– that will be huge.

Fansince1971
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7 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Well those depend on the city of Anaheim as Arte does not own the stadium or the land.

RexFregosi
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7 hours ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

yes, of course but also obvious is they’ve been negotiating in the past for that too.

Fansince1971
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7 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

And how did that turn out? I’m not sure the city wants to do business with Arte. Buddy of mine who has local knowledge says Arte is a pariah (Skaggs trial did not help) and local politicians want nothing to do with him. Maybe Arte, in his ego driven deluded mind, thinks he has a chance. But reality may be very different.

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Marcotor
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1 hour ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Sp he packs his team up and moves to Spokane. History repeats itself and the Angels become the Spokane Indians 🙂

HalosFanForLife
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8 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

A professional sports team is the ultimate rich dude’s toy. Let’s say the team loses $50 million a year. That’s nothing when these teams seem to go up in value at a way faster pace every time one is sold. I’m seeing the Portland Trailblazer are selling for over $4 Billion to Tom Dundon in Paul Allen’s estate. That’s comical. It’s all funny money. Side note, I actually used to know Tom Dundon’s wife pretty well. One of the most beautiful women I ever met, both inside and out.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Roy Hobbs

He’s doing it purely just to spite all the people who want him to sell. He individually tracks each of us. His spite is focused and personal. In addition, he’s investing money previously allocated to player’s salary to fund scientific breakthroughs on extending human life. Arte plans to live until he’s 150….and continue his ownership of the Angels for the entirety.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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It’s true. I feel him watching me at night, like Randall Flagg in the Stand. Just like I know the wives and girlfriends of various guys on this sight sigh Anthony Rendon’s name in their sleep.

RexFregosi
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8 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Inheritance tax

2pints
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7 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

IMO Arte desperately wants to develop the land around the stadium. As long as he has even a smidgen of hope that he can eventually get a deal done with the city, he’ll hang on. I can only imagine how angry it’s making him to see Samueli redevelop the area around the Pond, while also fully embracing the team being in and representing OC, not LA. He’s like the anti-Arte.

PedroCerrano
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7 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Losing money is relative at his financial elevation. Franchsie valuation has gone through the roof during his ownership so if/when he sells their will be huge tax considerations.

Moreno bought them for $180mm and their current valuation is $2-$2.5 BILLION which is a 1,177.78% increase in valuation at the mean.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  PedroCerrano

Thing is, “franchise value through the roof” is kinda tailing off like Visa stock. It’s not BAD, but it’s not the fast and steady climb it used to be. Look at the hard time some clubs have had getting sold. Look at the MLB run TV deals more than half the league has to live with.

People keep looking at NBA and NFL franchises going gang busters and think MLB works the same, but it isn’t in practice. I think there are a lot of MLB owners that expect MAX VALUE when they sell and there are a lot of accountants that don’t want to buy an expensive stock with a 45+ PE multiple. The ego stroke of owning a team be damned.

Also, in my totally unvalidated heart of hearts, I think that owning a team has changed. It’s far less likely a single person will own and run the team. You will have a whole corporation to deal with. Dealing with cities has changed and is less fun for owners. Players are huge egos that you now have to placate. Everything is a constant social issue now. The fans are stupid and always on the interweb boards. The days of “Golly Mista Ownermanz! We sure do love our boys of summah! You own my favorite team so you are a demigod to me!” are long gone.

So that guy who used to buy a team to feel like an old time baseball owner is gone. And a lot of people who have three billion dollars to invest in something don’t necessarily feel like they NEED to put that into something where everyone from Steven A Smith to CtPG Guy gets to monitor and critique them on a daily basis rather than just buying all the housing we live in.

The Angels will sell if Arte wants it. There are buyers. But I doubt there is an endless line of very rich people just gagging for the chance to overpay for the future glory of owning a team now days.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
6 hours ago

I agree that the world has changed while he’s owned the team but he’s also quite good at missing windows of opportunity. He should have sold and/or traded Trout in 2019, Ohtani in 2021 blah, blah, blah. Hindsight is always 20-20 but coherent ownership…

I think the single biggest determining factor will be the future media landscape. The NFL is agreat case study where there’s a growing fatigue in the buying public with multiple streaming platforms all raising their hands for your monthly fee. The current system is going to crater IMHO and the certainty of guaranteed eyes-on markeing impact has diminished now that most of the startdard streaming platforms also include adverts.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  PedroCerrano

Baseball’s gonna need to circle the wagons. I’m an old man and I currently enjoy football and combat sports more. Sure, I love baseball most in my heart and currently my team sucks, but I am far less “glued to the screen” for baseball. I’d imagine it’s far worse for “kids these days”.

Pretty much ALL of the way baseball does things isn’t gonna work for future spending adults. There is just no way my currently 16 year old nephew is gonna shrug his shoulders and pay for cable… and six viewing packages…. just to watch sports. GenX is the last generation that is used to just being cable TVs hostage and soon even RSNs like YESN are gonna just be on in bars and airports.

There’s just no way they are gonna be able to keep things going when only select East Coast and LA teams really matter year in and out but they need Gen Z customers and beyond to give a shit and pay extra money on extra money in Ohio. And selling these guys a bunch of memberberries with Nolan Ryan and George Brett, maybe pushing the “live experience” and jacking up ticket prices to try and make money…. not gonna work either when they are all used to switching to the next entertaining thing at will for free.

But the MLB just points to this last gasp of 30-40 year olds that still feel a sense of obligation to the sport taking their kids to games and watching at home like that’s gonna keep growing well into the next decade. It’s not. And the egg heads who work for prospective baseball team buyers can see that.

Jeff Joiner
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2 hours ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

Hopefully I’m wrong but I see a lot of similarity between baseball and the way boxing ruined itself.

Rather than cooperating and creating the best sport possible, each little entity operated as an island, looked for short term money, and systematically isolated fan after fan. Sure there were still some mega rich guys (Mayweather, Canelo, etc.) but for the most part fans had a difficult time a accessing fights.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

That is a great correlation! I can remember being a very little kid and hearing my elders discussing Ali-Frazier. My thoughts were along the lines of: “Wow this must be a big deal! They are ready to fight each other over who’s going to win a fight.”

Baseball could fade in a T.S. Elliot “not with a bang” kind of slow demise.

Jeff Joiner
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48 minutes ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

Must have been an incredible time.

That first fight between them is by far my favorite. Frazier was older than Ali so it was the two of them at or near their best. And Frazier won.

I’d have been a Frazier guy for sure. My favorite fighters have always been the softer spoken types like Miguel Cotto.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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27 minutes ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I loved Joe Frazier. He kept Ali in clothes when Ali was protesting the war. Then Ali shit all over him and called him stupid once he was back. Then they fought. Ali won. But Frazier basically beat Ali into the the state of befuddlement he has existed in for decades. You could tell, when he would talk about that fight on later documentaries, he was thinking “Who’s the stupid n****r now puddin head?”.

Joe Frazier and Marvin Haggler. I wish I’d been old enough to really follow those dudes.

Jeff Joiner
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5 minutes ago

This biography on Frazier is one of the best sports books I’ve read.

Hagler is one of my favorite youtube guys. His balance is so perfect at all times. He’s so adaptable. I barely remember the end of his career but my dad loved him and Frazier.

Fansince1971
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3 hours ago

NBA also has a salary cap of sorts that increases the value of franchises by controlling costs. If MLB can somehow achieve a salary cap, the value of franchises will greatly increase. Maybe that is what Arte is waiting for.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Fansince1971

That could very well be. I think if the next CBA flops bad for owners it’s not gonna hurt team value all that much compared to “uncertainty”. But if they get a good CBA then team values go up a bit…. basically doesn’t hurt to wait a year to try a sale.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Roy Hobbs

First, because the club increases in value even if it is emptying his bank account of liquid cash. He can handle that for a while.

Second. Because, until recent seasons, it looked like he could make a ton of money if the team just got a little better and made the play offs,

Third, until recent seasons, there was also a huge land deal in the works surrounding owning the team.

Fourth, he likes baseball. He wants to prove he can win.

But as it stands now, a lot of those reasons have dimmed. Which is why, along with his age, you have to wonder if he’s getting out.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

For the same reason you don’t sell stock just because a company lost money and the stock price dropped.

If Arte believes the resolution of certain future events (e.g. the next MLBPA negotiations, long-term media rights, a stadium deal) will increase the sale price, he would hold now and sell later.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Think long term. Same as the guys up the freeway, that’s why they spend 90% of their billion dollar revenue on the team. The Long-term return on Arte’s investment is pretty tasty, and no matter how bad the team, is unlikely to diminish.

CAoldskoll
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9 hours ago

Not sure what the MLB TV broadcast means for watching free Angels games. Last year being on Fan Duel I got free home broadcasts under my cable service AT&T/Direct Tv. My package does not include MLB TV, so does that mean I can’t see games anymore?

Fansince1971
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8 hours ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

My understanding is you will have to subscribe to some version of MLB.tv although I presume there will occasionally be free games when they play another crappy team.

CAoldskoll
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7 hours ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Fukn Wonderful. But my cable company informed me I now get Dodger home games?? How is that possible, I thought Spectrum had exclusive Dodgers rights after being idiots and overpaying them.

steelgolf
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5 hours ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

But …. What if they ARE the crappy team?

RexFregosi
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7 hours ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

the Backs have been on MLB tv for a year plus, some games are on local TV I think but not all.

I think you are right though in principle – if you want to watch 162 games, for the first time, you’ll have to pay for it outside your normal cable deals.

Most curious for me right now: the Spring Training Games, which they have been an outlier in doing close to 100% of them. Hope that continues.

cookmeister
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4 hours ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

nothing is finalized so can’t really answer your question

you live in socal though I assume. I wouldnt worry about being able to watch games

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
54 minutes ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

MLB TV channels and MLB.tv are different. MLB.tv is the MLB’s subscription streaming. There are individual team and all team packages, both of which are subject to coverage blackouts. In the past, that means MLB.tv was only useful for watching Angels’ games if you don’t live in Southern California. For example, subscribers in the Sacramento area could watch any Angel game except those subject to local (Giants/A’s) or national (ESPN, AppleTV, YouTube) blackouts. Next year, with no local broadcast service, SoCal residents can watch the Angels except for the national blackout games.

While not a concern for next year, keep in mind playoff games will likely be subject to national blackouts, so you would still need FoxSports, ESPN, or whatever to watch those.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Biggiswrth

Meh. Sadly, if we can get just barely not horrible defense at 3B with an OBP over .300 and a 98 OPS+ when Moncada is hurt that’s a pretty big win for us.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
10 hours ago

Nice trade by JeDi. Seattle has the depth to keep on reloading.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 hours ago

Yes but we have Perry the genius! The smartest man in the room. I wonder if he will ever get another GM job. What could he point to that he accomplished? Even if he blames Arte for everything and the major league club was never any good, he could have improved the farm. In 6 years, it’s no better than when he started, possibly worse.

milehigh
Trusted Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

If Arte has shown me anything it’s that Arte is the smartest man in the room. The farm is not good and that is on Perry, but the next GM is unlikely to be better. Arte had a better GM in Jerry even with Jerry’s flaws. I think Arte has always thought he was the smartest guy in the room.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  milehigh

Anytime I get the sense that a guy thinks he knows more about something than I do just because he knows more about something than I do it pisses me off so much. Especially if he doesn’t go out there and get me something I want.

Perry will wind up in some FO job for some team that does better than the Angels. Likely because their juju magic has less sand in it’s vagina.

I would actually LOVE it if a crazy as fk owner bought a team and then ran the FO by fan consensus. Buy a ticket package or the viewing package for the team. You get a vote. With today’s technology an owner could totally just let the hive mind do the work… see if that “Wisdom of Crowds” thing works. It would be really cool to watch.

2pints
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8 hours ago

I can easily see Seattle in the WS this season.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2pints

A Mariners Vs Doyers WS. I have never been less excited since the Yankees/Doyers WS. Can’t wait.

2pints
Trusted Member
6 hours ago

I was thiiis close to saying LAD vs SEA WS, but I opted to just go with SEA since I really hope LAD crashes out in the first round. But SEA looks good and has really good pitching and have been adding to their offense. I’d happily throw $50 on them to win the AL right meow.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2pints

Better the M’s than the Doyers. But neither? Even better.

2pints
Trusted Member
4 hours ago

At this point, I’m kinda indifferent towards the M’s since the Halos suck. There are not really any players there I don’t like, and I have no ill feelings towards DiPoto. I liked him when he was here and didn’t begrudge him leaving after a clear disconnect between him and the dugout. When Texas won the WS a few years ago I was ready for it to really bug me, but to be honest, I mostly forgot all about it the next day.

This would all likely be very different if the Halos were a tad competitive, but alas, that is not the case.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2pints

Yeah. I hated the late 2000s Rangers. But as a whole team they are basically a grilled cheese sandwich. When they won I was just happy for my cousins and didn’t care myself. My hate engine really only has enough juice for the Yankees and Doyers and maybe one other rando team full of dudes I don’t like or a fanbase that gets insuffereable.

I don’t even hate the current Red Sox very much.

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