LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Inflammation

Carson Fulmer, Nolan Schanuel and Victor Mederos all went on the injured list on August 24. Fulmer has right elbow inflammation. Mederos has right shoulder inflammation. Schanuel has a left wrist contusion. Sammy Natera Jr. made it on the prospect team of the week.

The Brewers just signed Erick Fedde to a one year deal and put Trevor Megill on the 15 day injured list with a flexor strain. They transferred Logan Henderson to the 60 day IL due to his flexor tendon strain.

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Twebur
Legend
1 hour ago

Jerry Jones = Art Moreno… Art just never talks about his dumb ways of running his team

Last edited 1 hour ago by Twebur
Brent
Super Member
20 minutes ago
Reply to  Twebur

Well that’s just wrong. Jerry at least got a deal trading his star player who no longer wanted to play in Dallas. Arte just let Ohtani walk across the 5 for nothing in return. Dallas has also made the playoffs 4 times since the last time the Angels have made the post season.

RexFregosi
Super Member
5 minutes ago
Reply to  Brent

Arte is smart enough to hire a GM to be his fall guy.
But maybe having a GM has been the problem all along.

Jer has been GM of Dallas since 1989.

Twebur
Legend
2 hours ago

Angels gave Seager appendicitis, and they give me depression and gas

The Rangers announced on Thursday that Corey Seager was diagnosed with appendicitis and will undergo an appendectomy. There is no timetable for his return, though general manager Chris Young said they were not ruling him out for the season.

https://www.mlb.com/news/corey-seager-diagnosed-with-appendicitis?adobe_mc=TS%3D1756412401%7CMCMID%3D73290941263181416286986602993186198783%7CMCORGID%3DA65F776A5245B01B0A490D44@AdobeOrg&affiliateId=mlbapp-ios_webview_news-index&rsid=mlbios.at.bat.new.implementation

RexFregosi
Super Member
3 hours ago

sitting on my porch in 2034 and me explaining the Angels in the 2020s to the grandkids:

the whole decade was a disaster. never made the playoffs, never had a winning record. we could never pitch, Trout never was the same, Sho left. Only bright spot was 2025 when we swept the Dodgers.

😳 this might be the best year of the decade unless Arte steps up 💰

2pints
Trusted Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

…or steps down

PedroCerrano
Super Member
3 hours ago

I can’t grasp why everyone is being so negative. We almost witnessed a record breaking effort last night and also converted a fringe first baseman into a valuable pitching asset.

BTW: The record for most runs scored in the modern era is 30. I think they had it in the bag if they had let Piranha finish it out.

BTW2: Angel’s site headline: “Ward, Adell form slugging duo with historic season” The Emperor definitely has clothes on.

MarineLayer
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

The Texas team only had eight innings. Who knows what would have happened if they got to hit nine times.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
3 hours ago

In these leaner times, I’ll keep sharing Angels excerpts with Baseball America non-subscribers out there.

BA profiled TGA in their “5 Up-Arrow MLB Pitching Prospects Primed For Breakout Seasons In 2026” feature this week (even gave him the cover pic for the article).

They hit on some of the themes that I’ve mentioned – lots of intriguing tools and projectability, but likely to be a slower development case than his early low-A dominance might suggest. Mainly due to control/command issues, and a FB that is crushing young hitters now w/ velocity, but will be challenged at higher levels due to lack of ride. (We saw the former issue in TGA’s outing last night, where he threw more balls than strikes, walked five, HBP, WP.)

Trey Gregory-Alford, RHP, Angels

One of the better athletes among draft-eligible pitchers in the 2024 class, Gregory-Alford is a good mover on the mound with a projectable build. This combination of traits has scouts buzzing, as the 19-year-old has shown premium velocity already and has the frame of a future workhorse.

Gregory-Alford has premium stuff led by a pair of fastball shapes that sit upper 90s and touch 100 mph at peak. His four-seam fastball lacks ride, and he has well below-average extension leading to a steeper plane. For now, his four-seamer is his most effective pitch, and it posts impressive in-zone swing and miss rates. Gregory-Alford will likely throw his two-seam variant with greater frequency as he moves up the rungs of the minor league ladder since the four-seamer is unlikely to drive as much success against more advanced hitters.

He also mixes a trio of secondaries in an upper-80s changeup, low-to-mid-80s slider and upper-80s cutter. His command is below-average, and he’s still fairly raw from a pitchability standpoint. Gregory-Alford might be a slow burn, but there are ingredients present for a potential exciting rotation piece in the future. 

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

And, he is after all, only 19.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Indeed. I’m just seeing more comments like “if this kid were on an east coast team, he’d be a top 100 guy already”, or assumptions that he’ll be in Anaheim in a couple years.

I understand the sentiment, but both are premature. TGA has uncommon velocity and can hold it deep into games. But he’s still learning to locate his fastball, and each of his secondaries are pretty nascent weapons right now. Unless he’s a unicorn, it’s probably a 3-4 year course for him before he hits the MLB, and there’ll be bumps in the road at that point. Provided the Angels are sensible and allow him time to hone his game at each stop.

He should probably start the season in low-A again, and only be promoted to Pasco mid-summer if he’s regularly putting up 6+ inning outings and slicing through the kids.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Exactly. he has tools. That’s great. Let’s spend at least three years trying to form him into a really good starter. By age 23-24 we will hopefully not have to worry about Rule 5 status etc because he’ll stick on the MLB roster.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

In the Hopeless Hope category. Here is a type of trade idea that may work for all you “but who will play/we watch if we make that trade?” line of thinking….

Angels make a trade with the Astros. Barf.

Astros get Nolan Schanuel.

Angels get:
Christian Walker and his contract. A big negative.
Xavier Neyens SS (Rook)
Kevin Alvarez OF (Rook)
Ethan Frey OF (A Ball)
Ryan Forcucci SP (Rook)

The Astros are payroll sensitive and Walker and his contract are an issue. He is signed through 2027 for 20M a year at age 34. He is actually a fairly good 1B. Had a down year this year, but usually hit’s for at least a .750 OPS and plays GG defense. Even down year Walker is as good as Nolan. It’s just that Nolan is as good as Walker for way less money.

IF ARTE APPROVES A BIG PAYROLL JUMP in order to “reload” instead of rebuild, but we still want to build a farm, then paying out the nose like this is the way to go. We get a guy to play 1B who isn’t much of a downgrade and may even be good again. We also get some solid prospect return. The farm is fed, the people are entertained, the cash flows through the gates….

We do the same with other positions.

Cardinals get: Jo Adell

Angels get:

Nolan Arenado and the 42M owed over the next 2 years. Bummer.
Yairo Padillo SS (Rook)
Leonardo Bernal C (AA)
Jesus Baez 3b (A+)
Tink Hence SP (AA)
Joshua Baez OF (AA)

Arenado has an 85 OPS+ now. But you get to watch him play 3B. Yay! And we get a solid prospect haul far beyond what we’d get for Adell alone. Who replaces Adell? Soler my friend. Or Mark Canha….

Repeat this move 2 or three more times with Neto (Yankees?) Soriano and Detmers (Everyone needs pitching?) and maybe O’Hoppe (Everyone needs catching?)

That’ll be another 15 prospects. Our payroll will be friggin huge for about two years as we add expensive #4 starters and old corner OF and have No one to play CF.

What’s crazy is a guy like Arenado will actually give us the same value we are getting from 3B now. As will Walker at 1B. There are other overpriced contracts out there on teams that need payroll space that involve players that are just about as good as what we have now if not better. You wanted to stand pat? Here you go.

The issue is, we will have a starting line up with an average age of 35. A rest home. And we will be VERY expensive for about two years. We will also be BAD, especially on defense most likely.

We will have grit. Old grit. We may even finish above .500. We will also have experienced vets to greet some kids. All this money other than Trout falls off the books in a couple years. We will have a stacked farm coming onto the roster.

I call this move “The reverse dinosaur”. All you old farts should love this.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 hours ago

This is another interesting approach. Amazingly, we’re likely to be as good or better than we would have been anyway and in 2 years all the money comes off and we have a boatload of young players. Plus we’re getting rid of some contracts now and in another year as well. We might have close to 150M dollars to spend in 2028 along with all the young players we acquire and all the pitchers we drafted this year. At least it gives you a chance and we would have a lot to watch in the minors. Currently there is little hope of anything being different going forward.

If we’re honest, the only position player other than Trout who could really be part of the solution and won’t be gone in 3 years is Neto, and most will be gone in 2 years.

Fansince1971
Legend
5 hours ago

While some may point to the number of home runs this team has hit as a point of pride, to me if you combine it with the number of strikeouts, it reveals one of the true weaknesses of the squad. They are swinging for the fences rather than trying to make contact. I realize that chicks dig the long ball but consistency and winning in baseball come from making contact not swinging out of your shoes.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

The whole coaching staff needs upgraded. Wash coming back next year isn’t the solution either.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I know. Why get better players, or train them in the minors? Fire moar couches!

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
1 hour ago

The gm and owner can go pound sand too

milehigh
Trusted Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

This is modern baseball across the board. Not like the players haven’t been told how to hit since they were 10.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  milehigh

They sure do praise them alot, but have zero to say for their league leading strike outs.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  milehigh

little leaguers are better bunters than MLBers, at least the Angels MLBers

MarineLayer
Legend
5 hours ago

Now I read Minasian is shutting down the guy he selected with the #2 pick, about the fifth best pitcher on the board, at best. No rush, it’s not like we don’t need any starting pitchers.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

There are a hundred things to be frustrated about, but this isn’t one of them. All of the first round arms have been shut down in preparation for next season – it’s totally standard after a full season of college ball.

In fact, only 12 pitchers from the entire 2025 class have thrown at least five innings in official pro games so far. Most of them are relievers, and three of them are Angels draftees.

MarineLayer
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

OK. I’m so unhappy with that pick whenever I see anything written about him it reminds me we could’ve taken Ethan Holliday, or someone with so much more upside.

JackFrost
Legend
44 minutes ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I think that is unfair; Bremner has alot of upside. Besides, this organization needs front line pitching in the worst way.

Last edited 43 minutes ago by JackFrost
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

Awww. I remember the first time I saw how a draft works too….

RexFregosi
Super Member
6 hours ago

Mt Rushmore of Angel Coaches
Jimmie Reese, Tom Morgan, Dino Ebel, Marcel Lachemann

Jimmie- no-brainer, his number is retired
Morgan was Nolie’s Pitching Coach – he took a NYMet reject in 1972 and made him a star
Dino – the most liable approachable of Scioscia’s coaches
Marcel – he had best pitching staff

others – Tim Buss, Rocky Bridges, EY, Maddon*
Maddon would be on the top 4 but he’s obviously been banned for his manager time

any other memorable coaches to be considered?

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
4 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Bud Black and Jay Johnstone.

tanana40
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I always thought that Carew’s work on hitting in the mid to late 90’s helped that young core develop.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
6 hours ago

The Angels’ AL-worst -105 run differential is now 26 runs worse than Baltimore or Sacto. Next achievement will be to challenge the O’s and Twins for the second worst record in the league.

Setting goals and surmounting them: meaningful baseball at last.

DowningDude
Legend
6 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Arte’s “Unfinished Business”

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  DowningDude

The Angels are so unfinished I have splinters in each place they’ve touched me.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Clearly hitting a whole bunch of HRs doesn’t make your team good. Though it does make the ladies happy as long as they don’t look at scoreboards, standings, or box scores.

Kyren Paris, his hot start, and all the babble and bitch that came from it, turns out to be the microcosm for our entire season. Hit some home runs, have some dramatic wins, bitch about managers, actually turn out to be strike out prone with a low OBP, still believe he’s meaningful, bitch about managers and GMs, season marches on, Paris is a meh baseball player, bitch about manager, GM and owner. Finish out in the sticks. We’re not stupid. The manager, coaches, GM and owner are stupid.

Been saying it since January and it’s still tur. This team. It’s just not very good.

Kevin
Trusted Member
5 hours ago

Perry’s philosophy isn’t working. His view of the game and what it takes to win hasn’t resulted in even a .500 record in five years. The only year they had anything going was when Maddon was around and Perry’s acts of taking over and undermining the FO-manager power balance apparently collapsed that. It seems change is needed. Does anyone know other GMs that have lost for five years without ever winning and keep going? I’m talking about a real team here, not the Pirates.

MarineLayer
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  Kevin

He needs to be gone, but Arturo literally does not care about winning.

milehigh
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Kevin

I wonder what the list of GMs would be that were passed over or who said no to Arte. Would love to see if there was a real strong personality that Arte was afraid to hire.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  milehigh

I’d bet it’s more likely “strong personality”, what/who ever the fk he is, wasn’t interested and Arte didn’t get the chance to pass him over.

I’m still waiting to attach actual names to “strong personality who speaks truth to power POBO”. It’s been years of waiting….

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Kevin

I’m pretty sure PTP is not the best GM. I am also very sure we haven’t really seen “Perry’s Philosophy” in all it’s glory since he had to babysit a unicorn and then “go for it” in 4 of 5 years. Madden was a past it clown who would have sucked for any team that didn’t buy him a stacked roster.

MarineLayer
Legend
1 hour ago

Cool they’re planning to bring back another “past it” to manage again next year

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
4 hours ago
Reply to  Kevin

Eppler

JackFrost
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I think the metacommunication there was “build up the franchise value so I can sell them at a fair or even good price above market value.”

Problem is, playing the way they are now is surely not going to raise the price up.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  JackFrost

I’m not sure. It seems like a lot of perspective buyers like a team that is stripped down as far as payroll commitments go. If they can get a winner that has already been built they’ll take it, but in general they seem to not really care. they are gonna build their team and want as few impediments as possible.

Unless you have Ohtani or Judge or some iconic brand playing for you the roster is an afterthought compared to stadium, TV deal, team value growth, profit after op expenses, etc. the team finishing 3rd instead of fifth almost certainly doesn’t matter since they assume that the team will draw when they have made it a winner.

Of course, if the team has a history of not drawing much even when they win (Guardians/Rays) that’s a problem. But even then, the way franchise value grows the team will still be bought at a premium.

That’s my guess.

2pints
Trusted Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

The young players playing in this tight playoff environment is going to really pay off in the future. If they hadn’t bought at the trade deadline, they wouldn’t be so competitive right now, and the players wouldn’t be getting such great experience. For that, I’m glad they didn’t trade veterans for prospects. This is really fun to watch, can’t wait for next season.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
6 hours ago

Last night was proof of just how thin the Angels talent pool really is and why sniffing .500 was fun but not likely to continue.

Anderson was replaced by the next man up and that was Silent C, who got drilled.

Neither Teodosio or Peraza appear to be MLB caliber hitters. Neither does Moore but he did crack a homer.

Good teams don’t have 3 to 4 holes on their lineups night after night.

They do have a capable arm or two in AAA.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Teodosio has been a blast to watch in the field, but yeah, he’s not even AAAA.

MarineLayer
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

At least he can field.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

He’s a perfect #4 OF. Great fielder. Can run the bases. Can bunt.

That’s great…. unless your roster is totally skint.

RexFregosi
Super Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

CMo will be fine (but isn’t adding in 2025 to your point)

He’s had just over 100 MLB at bats and is still listed as a prospect, and just a handful of 2024 Draftees have appeared for far.

Banned said yesterday afternoon to stop calling CMo CMo, until CMo crossed the Mendoza line. it worked. CMo is now hitting .202!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  RexFregosi

Finally! Over .200. That’s actually cool. Maybe he kinda gets that monkey off his back and settles in to hit a little better.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

If moore could only hit like the game was on the line, all the time.

toad2065
Trusted Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Maybe now Ray-Ray will let him play everyday!

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

3 to 4 holes and the other spots striking out all the time doesn’t equal much success for offense.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
7 hours ago

20-5. Most disheartening.

Rada has a five-game hitting streak in SLC… batting .341 this month!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

It’s worse: the score was actually 20-3.

RexFregosi
Super Member
7 hours ago

5th pace!
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smithy610
Super Member
7 hours ago

Just like clockwork – this team hangs around enough during the July trade deadline so that management stays put, or just improve on the fringes (except for 2023 because they wanted to impress a certain someone).

Then completely melts down in August and fades into irrelevance.

But hey, at least Taylor Ward reached his career highs 30HRs and 30 doubles with the Angels!!

Terry
Trusted Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  smithy610

That’s more doubles than Trout has had in over his past 900 at bats.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  smithy610

You know, it’s trAdition to fade after the ASG.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 hours ago

So, silent C is now waiver material?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Angelz4ever

As long as he has minor league options, he’ll hang around

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Yup. Might as well keep working on him.

milehigh
Trusted Member
5 hours ago

Working late in the lab one night – Monster Mash

red floyd
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  milehigh

I don’t want us to be just a Graveyard Smash.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 hours ago

Two touchdowns and two FGs, not bad for pre-season NFL action.

Last edited 8 hours ago by Angelz4ever
HalosFanForLife
Super Member
8 hours ago

At least we blocked the extra point.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

No, the Rangers shanked it wide right.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
7 hours ago

LOL

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

Ring out the bells again
Like we did when spring began
Wake me up when September ends

steelgolf
Legend
10 hours ago

What day is Tar and Feather Monty day at the stadium parking lot? They can use the leftover tar to seal the asphalt!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  steelgolf

As soon as Wash said he’s coming back, Monty’s fate was set.

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