LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Negative

Apparently, it could still go either way about whether the Angels will buy or sell at the trade deadline. Fortunately, the X-Rays were negative about Nolan Schanuel’s wrist. It was a rough weekend for first basemen. Freddie Freeman also got hit on the wrist by a pitch. His X-Rays also came back negative.

Now they say there is no timeline for Mike Trout to return to playing in right field. Ben Clemens at Fangraphs has Zach Neto ranked at number 43 in his 2025 trade values. He admits most of the people he talked to rank Neto higher than that. Let’s face it, Neto is unlikely to be traded anyway. Jose Soriano got lumped into the controllable pitching group in the honorable mentions.

Christian Moore (MLB No. 48) is the Angels second half prospect to watch, notwithstanding that he is on the injured list.

The Braves just designated outfielder Stuart Fairchild for assignment to make room for Sandy Leon. Rich Hill made it back to the majors for his 21st season. The Royals selected his contract. Richard Lovelady is outrighted down to the minor leagues unless he opts for free agency.

The Mets just claimed right-hander Rico Garcia off waivers from the Yankees. The Mariners selected the contract of left-hander Brandyn Garcia. The Rangers put Chris Martin on the 15 day IL with a calf strain. The Orioles just signed right-hander Vinny Nitoli to a minor league contract.

Watch McKenzie Clark of the AUSL Blaze go flying to rob Sahvanna Jaquish of the Talons out in right field. Those games look like a lot of fun.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
49 minutes ago

My top trade list

Moncada
Soler
Stephenson (Dodgers?)
Rengifo

Keep unless they want to be traded to avoid sourpuss veterans however unlike what they reach the young guys

Kenley
Hendricks
D’Arnoud

Trade if there is a big opportunity otherwise keep to finish out the season because we have no replacement

Anderson
Ward

Roll with the following

O’Hoppe, Wallach Schanuel, Wade (ugh), Taylor, Neto, Newman , Moore (when he comes back), Adell, Trout, and probably Ward.

It is a must to get a young 3B return in those trades, they have enough pitchers in MILB to stretch it out the season.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 hour ago

I’m enjoying this year tremendously. The win total is far above expectations and that’s because the young guys are carrying this team and looking like an emerging core.

Most rebuilding teams have a year like this before they are really ready. I’m just surprised it is happening this year.

But we aren’t remotely close to ready to compete for anything real so continue the rebuild and sell for AA and AAA talent.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yep. I’m stoked. We are having the year I was hoping for next year this year. And it’s really without any of the really young kids from the farm doing anything.

Even with the bleak first half results from a lot of our farm hands, I gotta figure a couple of them will figure things out by next year, which will only add to the richness….

I was expecting longer misery than this. So it’s a solid season to me…

2pints
Trusted Member
50 minutes ago

I thought we’d be dancing around 100+ losses. Pleasantly surprised, and actually feel some hope for the future of this team.

Last edited 50 minutes ago by 2pints
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Someone. Please. Bring Dick Lovelady back to the MLB. Rockies? Where you at?

The Mets are shopping the type of MLB roster fodder we may be able to pick up in trade. It will likely be guys who have “failed” thus far…. other team’s Adells. But these are guys with some ability that may take off. Brett Baty at 3B wouldn’t actually be too bad a pick up if you look at his MiLB numbers and slow climb to meh at the MLB level. Ronny Mauricio could be Rengifo with better defense if he breaks right. Probably even has more natural power with fewer steroids and pregnant wives abandoned.

We will likely need to grab and “polish” at least one guy like this if we are gonna become a stacked roster. If we got Baty in a trade for Jansen, for example, I’d like the gamble.

The league’s actually got a lot of guys like these. They are exactly who true “win now” teams are willing to part ways with to get immediate help. One disadvantage being that a lot of these guys don’t have a lot of option years left if any because of their up/down career path and they are all one or two seasons from Arbitration.

But this is how you get your Brent Rooker type guys. And it’s a different tack from picking up AA prospects that are still highly valued. This may be a preferable rout if you are really afraid the Angels will never be able to develop a 22 year old hitter in our system. Otto Kemp is another guy I think Jeff brought up yesterday. He’d fit this mold. Jace Jung is the 2024 Tigers version of CMo. “He’s hitting .250 in AAA, let’s bring him up!”. He’s still young and I doubt Detroit’s done with him, but he is blocked by two guys at 3B and not having a great year in Toledo. Maybe they’d pass him along to get their roster deep for the post season? Curtis Mead from the Rays. Mikey Romero is pretty blocked in Boston. Maybe make him an OF? Kevin Alcantara is probably too rich of an ask from the Cubs, even if he is blocked by PCA and Owen Cassie and Ian Happ but a man can dream. Other teams will likely target him with better trade options. But Ben Cowles is 25 years old and blocked. James Triantos could convert to OF and be pesky. Christian Franklin is Lugo with more athletic ability. He’s 25 and buried with the Cubs too.

Pineapple12
Legend
2 hours ago

I cannot and will not bring myself to root for losses over the next 9 games. However, I recognize what needs to be done at the deadline, which is sell.

19th in wRC+ (98)
22nd in SP ERA (4.38)
28th in RP ERA (5.11)
29th in DRS (-45)
30th in OAA (-29)

Men lie, women lie, numbers tell the truth.

Pineapple12
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

It’s a sellers’ market. A perfect opportunity to capitalize on Ward and Jansen.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Jansen yes, Ward probably not, who would we get in return for Ward’s production next year that costs as much or less?

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

As Turk’s points out, the Cubs have lots of OF talent in AAA.

Philly has Justin Crawford (son of Carl) in AAA and he really looks like a stud.

Also, consider we could trade Ward for a third baseman to fill another need. The free agent list for next year is pretty weak, though, so that is a concern.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Jeff Joiner
FungoAle
Legend
17 minutes ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yes, Ward should still be in Philadelphia. Dombrowski needs to win now, let’s swindle him again. Justin Crawford should be on the menu.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
37 seconds ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Ward pus Moncada for Crawford in Otto Kemp is a slight win for the Angels in the simulator.

Kemp has 0 value so he’s more of a throw in, but one we could use. He’d get the rest of the year to see if he’s a useful MLB piece full time while the Angels keep Crawford in AAA to squeeze an extra year of control out of him.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Angelz4ever

No one. We lose Wards production in hopes of gaining a couple productive guys for many years. That’s how rebuilds work. “Production replacement” or upgrades in single spots is what complete or nearly complete rosters worry about. That’s not us yet.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

No one is rooting for the team to lose and even if we won every game, we should be selling. If we don’t sell, we insure that next year will be just like this year.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Sadly, a lot of things need to go right AGAIn for us to be this good next year… which is not very good. The rebuild is building, but we gotta keep doing it.

We probably don’t need any more pitching prospects in the system for now though. There is that.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

TA ranks us as 3rd luckiest team in MLB 1st Half:
3. Los Angeles Angels, +5.5 winsLuck ranks: Close games 1st | Offense 9th | Defense 21st
At 47-49 heading into the ASG break, the Halos found themselves sitting surprisingly close to .500 — a level they haven’t reached over a full season in a whole decade (since 2015). Some of that, however, was driven by a huge disparity between their record in one-run games (18-11, fourth best in MLB) and multi-run contests (29-38, seventh worst). Sometimes, massive splits like these can be partly explained by elite relief pitching — but that’s not the case for the Angels’ bullpen, which ranked 28th in WAR, with closer Kenley Jansen and his setup men rating as average at best by ERA and/or FIP. Another aspect of L.A.’s good fortune was an offense that ranked 19th in scoring despite sitting slightly below that in wRC+ (21st) and hitting WAR (22nd). Although the Angels lost some ground in luck on the other side of the ball, allowing 8.6 more runs than BaseRuns would predict, the net effect was a team that exceeded its expected wins overall.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I guarantee Perry looks at none of that.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Also, 3 of our 5 starting pitchers are in their mid 30s and one of the one’s who is not is 30% below average. We also have a number of players having career years.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

But the players having career years are young. We don’t know if this is the level of play of Adell, Neto, and Schanuel or their peaks.

smithy610
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’m not rooting for losses either, but it’s clear the team is not just at that level yet where they can sustainably compete.

The BP, after being steady for a couple of months, have floundered, squandered a chance at a Philly sweep, and gave away what would have been a signal-sending win to the Mets.

The SP looks shaky with Anderson, Jack in the minors and no plan to replace him yet, Kikuchi being inefficient (while good) and Soriano being inconsistent (who knows if the team gets good or bad Sori that day). And Kendricks is Kendricks

The offense has been better , and with better pitching, (not even shutout pitching), five runs should have been enough to win the game last night.

But it’s clear this team is just not there yet.

toad2065
Trusted Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  smithy610

Montgomery gave away that game last night when he sent Anderson back out for the 7th. Then he compounded his mistake by bringing Detmers in in the no out two runners situation. Brogdon or Burke would have been a better choice. Ray-Ray continues to show no feel for pitching changes.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
56 minutes ago
Reply to  toad2065

You know it’s not the manager but the roster when you make statements like “Brogdon or Burke would have been better.”. You know who doesn’t say that? Fans of teams with a solid roster.

Monty is meh to meh+. But he’s not the problem. Neither was Wash and his hated coaches.

Just gotta keep building. Keep kissing frogs till we find a couple princes. Keep hoping Detmers and Bachman types learn and develop. Lot’s of suck comes along with this.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I don’t lie, I prefer the term, “Creative self-serving truth.”

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Pineapple12

No one is rooting for loses. The season thus far has been conjured with “smoke and mirrors”. We all want the team to add talent that will break the cycle of the past 11 seasons.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Pineapple12

The only reason to root for losses is that we may see the need to sell, the Punk Rock Platypus may see the need to sell. My co-worker Andrew can see it. But my mom can’t, she’s all in. And I think Arte is more inclined to listen to my mom. He loves moms. And if he says we are AL IN then that’s what we are….

FungoAle
Legend
20 minutes ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

A fan that follows his mind over his heart, respect P12! It’s for the betterment of the organization.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
4 hours ago

That neto ranking is dumb

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

Bollinger’s article on the trade deadline can be summarized to the following:

– “We gotta play ’em one day at a time.”
– “I’m just happy to be here. Hope I can help the ball club.”
– “I just wanna give it my best shot and, the good Lord willing, things will work out.”

The translation is that Perry will wake up around 5:30pm eastern on July 31st, look at the standings, and decide whether or not to turn on his cell phone.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 hours ago

I just don’t see Perry being a forward thinking guy.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
52 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

That must be why he drafted a bunch of high school pitchers that he’d already made arrangements to sign a few days ago. A lack of thinking ahead. I may not love the forward thinking, but it’s there.

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
41 minutes ago

I was referring to the current roster and the next 2 years from a position player perspective.

Last edited 41 minutes ago by Roy Hobbs
Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 hours ago

Lets take game two and keep that D@mn apple put away.

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