LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Draft Time

What a wild ride this last week was for us Angels fans. After being on the losing end of two extra innings heartbreakers in Toronto the team won insane games both Monday and Wednesday against Texas.

I was at the slugfest on Wednesday, scoring last minute Diamond Club tickets, and had the privilege of talking to my baseball hero Wally Joyner for the second time in my life. Our first meeting was at a charity dinner a few years ago. I’d arrived and checked in about 20 minutes before Wally and when he went to check in the lady at the front told him “Mr. Joiner has already checked in.” They held him at the door for a minute until the confusion was cleared. We had a laugh about it then and he remembered it this time and again laughed. So, I kind of have a little bit with the guy whose poster was on my wall for years when I was a kid. Here we are at that dinner.

That entire game on Wednesday is our Highlight of the Week. Everybody on the team had a big moment that propelled the team to that win.

As far as fun individual performances this week, it isn’t often you win on a walk off walk. But Nolan Schanuel pulled that off Monday night. He’s clearly coming into his own in many ways and I’m enjoying seeing more of his personality come out. He loves playing the game and clearly loves winning.

For the second straight week, Kevin Newman did something useful for the club. His new baby will be proud. This week he soaked up three innings of pitching in a blowout loss. Perhaps he needs to move to the mound.

Getting overlooked in the Toronto series is just how good Jo Adell continues to be. He hit a massive, game tying 3 run bomb on Friday night and also notched a double. If you take a look at his baseballsavant page, he looks like one of the game’s best. Definitely follow that link for a deep dive, but here’s the true highlight:

His bat speed is elite, his K% is about league average, and his exit velocity is elite. He’s barrelling up the ball well. All that leads to a ton of red digital ink, indicating Jo Adell is currently among the best of the best in Major League Baseball.

The real Highlight of the Week across baseball came in San Francisco. How about a walk off inside the park home run? By a catcher no less. Absolutely incredible.

Up next is a three game set against the Arizona Diamondbacks then the All Star Game. Congratulations to the Angels lone All Star Yusei Kikuchi, who got a little emotional when he learned he received the nod.

It has been a while since a free agent signing came here and met expectations, much less become an All Star. Between the youth movement and some decent signings, we could see a good team fairly soon.

Speaking of the youth movement, it will get some fresh blood on Sunday and Monday.

Turk’s Teeth has been crushing it with his draft coverage. Get caught up on all of his pieces now then join the live Draft Thread I have scheduled for Sunday at 3.

First round thoughts.

Bats rounds 1-3

Bats rounds 4-7

Bats, the outsiders

Lists abound and we’ve been linking quite a few of them. If you are just getting into MLB Draft frenzy, I like this overview by Yahoo as a primer.

What the Angels do at #2 is a huge storyline both here and throughout the league, but it isn’t the only storyline to follow as the draft unfolds.

USA Today’s mock draft would make most of us very happy.

ESPN’s prospect breakdown is really good reading as we get closer to Selection Sunday (oops, wrong sport there).

In case you’re wondering, my draft wish list goes in this order: Anderson, Arnold, Witherspoon (probably under slot), Arquette. Like many/most Angels fans I’m concerned about the potential for injury with Doyle. Keep in mind, my opinion is about 2% as informed as Turk’s Teeth but I am learning a bit from the master.

From around baseball:

The Dodgers have lost 6 in a row as of this writing. If they can manage to put a 0 behind that 6, I’d be ecstatic.

Baltimore has stolen Turk’s idea and traded for one of the few tradeable draft picks. Tampa Bay picks up several years of a really good reliever in the deal. Baltimore’s draft war chest is huge, a league leading $19 million in bonus pool, 4 of the first 37 picks, and 7 of the first 93. In a draft that is said to have depth but not star power, this is a great spot for Baltimore.

Enjoy your weekend and link what I missed. I’ll be enjoying some beach time with my family and hope to catch one game at the Big A at some point.

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2002heaven
Super Member
20 days ago

I’ll make a prediction just like many of my previous pre draft posts in past drafts. We’re gonna do the same thing that we did in the past… QUANTITY OVER QUALITY.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
20 days ago

Damn you appletv, now I have to illegally stream you on my phone.

steelgolf
Legend
20 days ago

I HATE Apple TV games.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
20 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Me too.

Fansince1971
Legend
20 days ago

So much pressure to hit on the #2 pick. It’s got to be tough. There likely will be a franchise player or players available. But it is easy to miss. Hindsight is a tough critic of a very imperfect science. I am sending lots of good thoughts and good fortune to Perry and his team to guide them.

BannedInLA
Super Member
20 days ago

Do yourselves a favor and watch Taylor vs. Serano III on Netflix tonight.

The 5 fight card starts at 5:00 pm. The main event fight will probably start around 7:00 pm.

They beat the life out of each other twice and the third one will be no different.

Think Gatti-Ward Trilogy.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/12508267/boxing-schedule

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
20 days ago

Ah… Eder up, Koch down

Cowboy26
Legend
20 days ago

So if Rougned Odor faced Jake Eder who would prevail?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Here’s a nothingburger I’d take a bite of. I actually like soon to be former Pirates prospect Matt Gorski. Is he a wonderful bust all the doors out prospect? No. He’s 27. But he had an .841 OPS in Indianapolis last year with 15 SB… playing a righty 1B and CF mostly.

If we can get him for nothing I’d give him a shot at SLC/ANA

Phil
Trusted Member
20 days ago

In our first meeting against the Rangers in April, they scored 12 runs while sweeping the 3-game series. Average of 4 runs allowed
Just now, Angels split the series, while the pitching staff gave up 37 games, an average of about 9 runs allowed.
Yikes!!!

For today:
Ryne Nelson has faced the Angels one time (July 2023), with a win, 7-1/3 innings, giving up 1 run, 3 hits, and 6Ks
For the season, he’s 5-2, with 3.39 ERA

Anderson has faced the Dbacks 19 times, going 6-4, 3.71 ERA and 85Ks.
He’s faced them once while with the Angels (July 2023), going 5 innings, 0 runs allowed
For the season, he’s 2-6, 4.19 ERA

According to MLB Network:
Campero will be batting 9th and in RF. Soler is not in the lineup.
O’hoppe is in; d’Arnuad is not
Schanuel is back in the lineup

Let’s get the victory!!

Eric_in_Portland
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20 days ago

I hope Trout hits 6 homeruns tonight to get to 400. At worst that he hits 6 in the series. Or maybe at worstest that he gets there soon, hopefully this month

smithy610
Super Member
20 days ago

Anything wrong with Yusei?! He’s being replaced on the AL All-Star roster:

https://x.com/SamBlum3/status/1943781524018802917

Fansince1971
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20 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

I believe it is schedule related. He is slated to pitch on Saturday. And pitching on Tuesday would not give him regular rest.

Eric_in_Portland
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20 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

No word yet that I can find. Meanwhile, another reason why I think Crochet is a jerk. He’s decided not to pitch in the al-Star game because it’s meaningless but he’s not giving up his spot on the team. I won’t cry when he undergoes his next TJS

Eric_in_Portland
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20 days ago

I can get off my Crochet hate now. He’s being replaced

MarineLayer
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20 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

They replace him with Rasmussen who is a starter who now only pitches two innings on an innings limit. . Normally, they find another pitcher from the same team as a replacement. . Kenley Jensen would be a perfect replacement. Anyway, my comment about the All-Star game is fuck the All-Star game.

Eric_in_Portland
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20 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

needed to have 5 Mariners

YOUknowulovetheIE
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20 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

It should’ve just been trout if scheduling was an issue.

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Fansince1971
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20 days ago

In that picture with Jeff, Joyner looks like a Batman villain.

BannedInLA
Super Member
20 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I wasn’t thinking Eastern European Oligarch. haha

Cowboy26
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20 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Next to Jeff he looks like “mini-me”

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frosse
Member
20 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Joyner and Joiner? Sounds like brothers from another mother

FungoAle
Legend
20 days ago

“With the 2nd pick of the 2025 MLB Amateur Draft, The Los Angels select, right handed pitcher, Seth Hernandez, from Corona High School, Corona California. The Seattle Mariners are on the clock…”

….just getting ready to scream in ecstasy

Pineapple12
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20 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

This would be my World Series.

FungoAle
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20 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Perry is going to treat us well, he won’t reach. I’ll support whomever but thinking this kid has the goods.

Cowboy26
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20 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

If the Angels take a high school player it will be Eli Willits. You just can’t pass up a legacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bhFCts-Rt0

FungoAle
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20 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Dorfman! Lol…love the phucking movie. So inspirational and helped shape my school education in fluid dynamics.

RexFregosi
Super Member
20 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

whenever Perry takes CtPG advice:
https://youtu.be/MYQCb3qrBpo?si=hfXRcOnEp6Rbtu6B

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  RexFregosi

That’s what Arte told Perry during his last performance review

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  FungoAle

If you are looking for a real reason to “scream in ecstasy”, we need to immediately start a “Gofundme” to get you some “pro time”

MarineLayer
Legend
21 days ago

Since we have the number two pick and I doubt we will get another one this high soon, I would go for highest upside. That would be Holidaynumber one and the kid from Corona high school number two. Then I would take any of the left-handed college pitchers. I really don’t have a preference. All the experts seem to think they have a number two or three upside, but the high school kid has a number one. We desperately need an ace.

Cowboy26
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20 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

While I agree with this concept in principle, it has to come down to signability. You are correct that the Angels likely will not have a higher draft pick again for quite some time , They accordingly will not have a bonus pool of this magnitude either. Just burning most or all of the 1-2 slot value on a potential phenom wont fix a team with a shitpile of holes if we dont generate excess bonus pool monies to draft and sign talent in later rounds.

We can draft the Next Mike Trout with our first round pick on Sunday, but considering how many championship rings or even playoff appearances we have gotten with the Original MNT I’m not sure how this will make the franchise that much better if the rest of our picks are mediocrity.

This draft is probably the most important one this team will face in the last decade. We have to hit on multiple picks for it to be success. Even with the shiny new pitching and hitting lab in the valley of the sun.

MarineLayer
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20 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

You’re right, my picks are completely emotional and have nothing to do with signability.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

Seriously. I watch video, I read scouting reports. Half the guys I want to draft come down to “I like the cut of his jib”.

MarineLayer
Legend
20 days ago

More power to you for taking such a in depth perspective. I entirely base my opinion on the analysis of four or five respected “experts“, the consensus is that this year one through 10 are pretty equal so cut of the jib probably makes more sense at the end of the day.

Eric_in_Portland
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20 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The 2026 draft, SP Dax Whitney

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Dude. I did the same thing. every other hitter Arkansas had… “maybe we should draft that guy”.

toad2065
Trusted Member
20 days ago

A tried and true decision-making process, Gitcho!

Cowboy26
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20 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Then we should be thankful our GM wont make the same mistakes.

smithy610
Super Member
21 days ago

FOX Sports released their All-Time Angels list:

https://x.com/MLBONFOX/status/1943416691771478053

I admit the Angels have been blessed with amazing OFs, and Anderson and Salmon would forever be in Angels’ lore because of 2002. But it’s tough to leave out the best player of the second-best era of the team and relegate him into the honorable mention part. Not to mention he’s the first Angels HOF’er.

And it should be Bobby Grich over HK as well (as much as I love Howie)

Eric_in_Portland
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21 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Grich, Boone, Downing

MarineLayer
Legend
21 days ago

i agree with all of those. Although it is tempting to just say the entire 2002 starting lineup.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

And as much as Salmon is one of my all time favorites, you’d have to take Vlad over Salmon.

MarineLayer
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Only because he played his entire career for us, and I am sentimentally attached to that entire roster. You are probably right, Vlad is the superior player by any other metric.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I am similarly attached to the 82 through 86 rosters. Along with 2002, that was the funnest time to be an Angel fan. we should have been in 2 more World Series.

Last edited 21 days ago by Roy Hobbs
MarineLayer
Legend
20 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I am attached to ‘79 as well. I went to all of the home games all three of those years. And just to be real for a second there’s obviously no comparison between Adam Kennedy and Bobby Grich. But I will never forget Kennedy’s three home run game. What a year.

Most angels were previous was Game six of 1986. Until Ersted squeezed that final out, I was convinced that we were going to find a way to lose. I can’t tell you how much joy that brought me to be completely wrong about that.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
20 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Ochoa was too close to Ersty. I was worried. Like you I didn’t believe it until it happened.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
20 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

1982, we had Milwaukee where we wanted them. And that other one that I won’t mention. But we also came pretty close in 1985. KC took two of three from us in the last week and that made the difference.

Cowboy26
Legend
20 days ago

Should never have bypassed Kenny Forsch.

Stoopid Mauch.

red floyd
Legend
20 days ago

SS Fregosi
2B Grich
C Downing
RF – Maybe Vlad over Timmy

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RexFregosi
Super Member
20 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

yes
my thought on OF is I’m taking 5 – my list, my rules. just can’t leave off Vlad and Ersty

toad2065
Trusted Member
20 days ago

Fregosi over Aybar in my book!

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Fregosi, Grich, and Downing for sure.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
20 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I think you’re right about Fregosi. He was before my time, as a player but I know how large he looms in this franchise

max
Trusted Member
max
20 days ago

Which is why it is unbelievable they didn’t acknowledge his death in season.

 I know how large he looms in this franchise

Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy
Trusted Member
21 days ago

J Rod rightfully pulling out of the ASG. Jo Show should be up next

https://x.com/SeaTimesSports/status/1943713967546728539

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

So. Just a mental prep note here since it looks like we all understand that we need to sell now.

First. No one is giving us a top 5 prospect for any of the guys we want to trade. You will likely have not heard of any the prospects we get and none of them will have a bunch of 65s and 70s in their grades. If we can get any trades done.

Second. If we can’t trade a guy. Perry isn’t gonna come out and say “I tried to trade Rengifo and no one would offer much of anything for him.” If that is something you need in order to feel like the GM tried to make some trades otherwise you’re gonna yell and scream about holding onto the guy congrats, you’re stupid.

Perry WILL come out and say something lame like “we feel we are better with Soler on the team with what he brings…” because that’s his job.

We are VERY unlikely to get “young controllable MLB players”. So stop wanting that.

Other than Ward and Hendricks (sort of) we are pretty short on guys with much actual value. So getting a lot of trades done will not be easy, even if I want them to happen.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
20 days ago

Exactly. At best, we get a Moniak in return for an expiring contract (like Jansen) – someone who once had promise and we are hoping will do well in eternal sunshine. (And likely not someone with as much potential as Moniak had/has).

Or we take on a bunch of money to get prospects, which Arte does not do.

2pints
Trusted Member
21 days ago

If Holliday is there at #2, I hope we take him. Seeing pics of him next to his brother, Jackson, he’s a good 4 inches taller. I’m betting he’s a top 10 3B with some serious power by the time he’s 23, which is a while away, but I’m willing to wait.

They need to take best player available, not who can help the team the fastest.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2pints

Honestly, with no clear wunderkind at the top of the draft, I’m sort of open to everything. I don’t like Doyle or Arquette much, but what the hell do I know? I’d even be cool with taking Tyler Bremner overslot and then using the money on that beast Taitn kid from Iowa or something.

Hell, even what we need, corner OF and 3B, isn’t THAT hard to come by if you draft young up the middle guys and train em in the new positions. I guess I’ll be most frustrated if they draft tons of pitching and 1B.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
20 days ago

I’ve become convinced that Anderson, Arnold, and Holiday are the top 3 and not picking one of them would be a mistake.

RexFregosi
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  2pints

if Perry doesn’t pick a high school guy here, he will never ever pick one. Now is the year if ever for him to do it, considering HS talent and his GM career status.

2pints
Trusted Member
21 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

and there lies the conundrum of a GM either building a team and system for prolonged success vs. trying to make the team good asap to save his job. Should be interesting to see how he plays it, but it sounds like he’s leaning college LHSP. I’m fine doing that, but not if Holliday falls to us.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2pints

I don’t think GMs draft to save their job. What? One guy may make it up next year? If you’re bad enough to draft #2 you think that’s saving your job?

2pints
Trusted Member
20 days ago

Its likely more commonplace for NFL GM’s, but I don’t doubt that some MLB GM’s make moves for quick results knowing they’re job could depend on the team showing expedited improvement.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
21 days ago
Reply to  2pints

Wouldn’t it be freaky if the Nats take Holliday and then we select Doyle?

2pints
Trusted Member
21 days ago

seems like the most likely chain of events

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  2pints

barf

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
20 days ago
Reply to  2pints

He could be here fairly quickly. I think we should take whichever of Anderson or Holiday are available when we choose and Holiday if it’s both.

2pints
Trusted Member
20 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

for sure, I don’t think Holliday won’t show up in MLB for 5 years. I was saying he’d be a top 10 3B within 5 years. That assumes a couple years of taking his lumps in the majors.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

You got to meet WALLY! Hell yeah bro, that’s awesome.

It has been a while since a free agent signing came here and met expectations, much less become an All Star. Between the youth movement and some decent signings, we could see a good team fairly soon”

This is important I think. I think we are all aware but may not be totally attuned to how crippling it is when we sign guys, especially large contract guys, and they get hurt or just suck. We have the ability to have a large payroll, but it’s still finite. Pissing away 80M dollars a year hurts. Even to a billionaire whose money is mostly tied up in a non-liquid team. Arte has literally pissed away a billion dollars on expensive players that fail for one reason or another.

NOT having that, other than Trout, could be really nice. The roster doesn’t feel held hostage. There seem to be more options. I’d be pretty happy if we never sign “the big FA poobah” ever again. Extend our boys, sure. That adds value to the team via building an attached fan base. But if our big FA pick ups next year are Merill Kelly, Jordan Montgomery, Max Kepler, Gregory Soto, Luis Urias type guys I’m cool with that. Especially if, when the time is right, Arte trades for some star that’s about to get paid big in order to get that ace we need when the team is good.

I don’t think I really want a huge FA spend just because Pujols and Rendon (and Ohtani) are off the books.

I want to trade him, but I also understand why they may keep Ward. Those of us who love to complain about Ward need only look at available LF in FA this winter to see why they’d extend Ward.

Either way, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BUILD THE FARM UP. It’s not just that FAs are expensive, it’s that there just aren’t many FAs worth a damn at all now days.

RexFregosi
Super Member
21 days ago

Extend Ward! now you’re catching on

as the young talent continues to grow there will be time to invest in quality FA to round out and fill the holes. Maybe next summer.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  RexFregosi

I’m not sure I want to extend Ward for all that long. But I do understand why if it happens.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago

I agree. I don’t see them trading Ward this year unless someone offers them something they can’t pass up. He’s one our 5 actually productive players and we don’t have a replacement in the organization.

Cowboy26
Legend
21 days ago

I want to trade him, but I also understand why they may keep Ward

Sorry I value my mental health too much. In fact trade him for a Padres Ken Caminiti exploding bobble head for all I Care. Trust me we’ll be better off in the long run

Last edited 21 days ago by Cowboy26
red floyd
Legend
20 days ago

Last major free agent signing that worked out well — Hunter.

Can’t count Teixeira, he was a trade. Everyone after that was kind of meh. Maybe CJ Wilson.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
20 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

Drury did in the short/vert short term. The Professor seems to be doing well so far.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Angelz4ever

well yeah. there are small time guys that did well. Estevez too. I am all for those guys in the future. I just don’t want to sign Tucker for 52M a year or what ever he is going to get. If we did a pile of Drury/Kendrick/Estevez and a Kikuchi every now and again for the NeXT few years few years I’d be glad for it. This pool should remain NO SPLASHING.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
20 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

Wilson was good for quite a while.

bobblanton
Trusted Member
21 days ago

I don’t think this is a pitcher year for us. We need hitters more than the pitchers I. This draft

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  bobblanton

If you read my series, you’ll see that it’s not either-or this year. It’s a pretty deep class for bats in the top 200 picks, but there are not a lot of advanced bats at the very top. Guys like Irish and Arquette would be mid-first-rounders in most other years. So you’re either accepting the longer time horizon of a prep pick, or grabbing an arm that can help by as early as next season.

The Angels only have two viable starters at the moment – Soriano and Kikuchi. The two vets are free agents in the offseason, and Koch wouldn’t still be pitching on almost any other MLB club right now.

The Angels have their pick of 5+ worthy arms in the first round. Still seems the best route to me, and go bat-heavy with subsequent picks.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

That is a reasonable approach, but we don’t do reasonable here.  🙂 

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

So if Anderson went 1st, would you take Arnold?

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

On my own board – and I’ll drop it into Jeff’s Sunday draft feature to follow along – I have Arnold as my fallback, but Ethan Holliday immediately behind.

Mentioned this in a thread yesterday, but Anderson seems the optimal pick to me, and then Holliday is the BPA, and Arnold the best organizational fit.

YMMV, but I usually have a handful of players in each tier, and one tends to be the best “Angels fit” and one is the consensus industry best-player (BPA).

Like last year, the BPA when the Angels took Moore was Braden Montgomery, and the best Angels fit was Cam Smith. Both totally reasonable choices.

Last edited 21 days ago by Turk's Teeth
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

So we’re 2nd, and any of the 3 would be a great pick. Let’s hope that’s how it works out.

Cowboy26
Legend
20 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Well, so far in retrospect The BPA is Cam Smith and the best Angel pick is Christian Moore unless you like 22 year olds striking out at a 25% clip in A Ball.

BannedInLA
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I think we should go the pitching route.

Cowboy26
Legend
21 days ago

Not sure what this means but maybe theres an underlying medical issue that might scare team away?

https://x.com/Jared_Tims/status/1943519527678963964

bobblanton
Trusted Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

What was this?

bobblanton
Trusted Member
21 days ago
Reply to  bobblanton

I don’t have X and confused about the tweet

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Cowboy26

Who is he talking about? Me? Are they onto me? Sure I’m very old, and my arm is shot, but they can still take me in late rounds….

Angelz4ever
Super Member
21 days ago

Gitch, you’re projected to be selected in the 126th round as a comp pick.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Angelz4ever

Sigh. I’m a senior sign, so I guess I gotta just go with it.

RexFregosi
Super Member
21 days ago

Just checked with Perry. He said every SOB at CtPG has multiple underlying medical issues that is keeping them from signing any of us.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  RexFregosi

Stupid Perry.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I am offended, my underlying issues are mental and anti-social tendencies at this point.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

Yeah but will you sign for underslot $$

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Angelz4ever
Super Member
21 days ago

AHAHA

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

The tweet is confusing because he is responding to his own previous tweet, not seen there.

He’s talking about Liam Doyle, who didn’t submit his medicals at the Combine.

That’s a little suspect, but what he’s referring to in terms of bonus is this: if a player shows up to the Combine, is in good health, and submits their medical records for review, then teams are not allowed to discount their bonus more than 25% of the slot value. The Angels’ first round slot value, for example, is $10.25M, so the Angels will have to give a signing bonus of at least $7.69M to any eligible draftee who submitted medicals at the Combine.

The suggestion here is that maybe Doyle is being strategic, and is willing to accept a slightly lower discounted bonus by withholding his medicals – like maybe he thinks he can be selected 1-3 and get $7M, rather than drop to 8-10 and have to accept $6M.

That seems a bit too wily to me, and I would be worried that there’s a red flag or two in the reports that would have him sliding well down the board.

Cowboy26
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20 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

That is enlightening TT. I would think that If prospective draftees can be part of private workouts with individual teams then they could agree to a predraft physical with an interested team especially if they had a deal in principle in place. 
So this issue can be really good, really bad or a nothing burger considering what you think of Doyle and the Angels’ interest in him.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
21 days ago

IMHO:

Trade: Jansen, Ward & Neefo (If offers received) and Tyler Anderson.

Roster moves: Send O’ Hoppe & Silent C down, bring up Aldegheri/Silseth* as a starter, Lugo up and playing LF/CF, bring up Wallach and a AAA IF for a cup of coffee, upon his return, send Moore down, pick up LeMahieu once he clears waivers, maybe run Bachman and/or Fulmer to start a couple of games, Detmers/Zeferjahn slide to closer. Bring Paris up in another month or so if he is progressing.

Release: Rendone a few weeks after the AS break, as I doubt he is progressing on his injury, Soler a few weeks after the AS break if he doesn’t catch fire.

*Not sure if Silseth is starting or relieving

Cowboy26
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21 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

I know this is counter to everything I’ve ever said or believed , but I would like the Angels to give a starting opportunity to Victor Mederos. His stuffplayed the other night ( I dont know if it’s his new arm angel release point) but he has the stamina to be a starter . With the only question being can he get major leaguers out multiple times through the order while still being able to control his walks.

Pineapple12
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21 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Mederos Mania!

Thank you for joining the movement, CB!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Pineapple12

Mederos and Jumbo Margaritas!

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Honestly, we’re not playing for anything so the more we find out before next year the better.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

It’s not too crazy. They throw him as a starter some in SLC.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Meanwhile, I’d like them to flip flop Koch and Detmers.

They’ve given Koch 30 starts now (19 this season alone) to prove himself. His expected ERA last season (4.97) is virtually identical to his xERA this season (4.95). His actual ERA was probably misleadingly low last year, and a bit too high this year. I think a 5 ERA pitcher is what a guy who needs to command a tiny slice (like 20%) of the K-zone to succeed is likely going to be.

The stakes aren’t high right now. Let’s see if Detmers can stretch back out and take his “one batter at a time” approach into the starter role. Meanwhile, let Koch amp it up for one inning, and let if fly with that power sinker in a bullpen role.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Do you think Detmers can throw the innings?

It’s a weird idea, but if we trade a starter and DFA some chaff or juggle some call ups I wouldn’t mind a game out of every 5 being a mix of Detmers/Silent C/ and PROSPCECT. Let Jack focus on once through the order and command. Let Detmers get up to 2, then 3, then 4 innings etc. Maybe stretch out Bachman too. Let some kids see the elephant and pitch to MLB hitters. Get some tape.

If it’s a “lost season” may as well use the IPs to develop some guys. Even guys with bad stats in MiLB. Just let em have a run for the data and experience.

I just can’t let Pitching Chaos go. Like some guys and Rendon.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
21 days ago

I think Detmers has thrown the innings before, and all the underlying pitch and stuff metrics suggest the guy should be an above average starter.

I think you’d have to do something like “pitching chaos” for a few weeks to get him ramped up. Let him go once through a lineup, then ramp him up to 4-5 innings over three starts.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Could it be that Detmers stuff is better now that as a reliever he goes max effort on every pitch? He’s throwing upper 90’s now when as a starter he was mid-90’s.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
20 days ago

It’s definitely about confidence / mental approach and sequencing, because the stuff plays.

He pitched fine in ’22-23 sitting at 93-95, and gave the team good length out of the rotation. The velocity is nice in the BP, but he doesn’t need it to succeed, given the strong secondaries.

Cowboy26
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20 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Koch cant get anyone out in the first inning. he aint going to perform any better in high leverage bullpen situations . Send him down to the Great Salt mines. We can always try Southard or another Perry Pick up in the pen if we want to start Detmers

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

If your goal is to tank then you might as well keep kochan in the majors

bobblanton
Trusted Member
21 days ago

No tank this year. Not getting a high draft pick

Angelz4ever
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Nice they changed that rule after the Royals and Asstros built their dynasties by tanking.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

And the Orioles.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Yeah, I figured that out on here a few months back. I don’t see them point of swapping out kochan with silseth, but I don’t like Turk’s move sending him to the pen.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
20 days ago

That was supposed to be.. I do like Turk’s bp idea.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
21 days ago

No tank, let the kids play and get some return for the future from Jansen & Tyler Anderson. Ward & Neeefo too, if it helps the future.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Not my goal, I have my eyes set on the playoffs this year.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

awwww.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Angelz4ever

I am pretty sure Silseth is nothinging right now. Hasn’t pitched since early May unless he snuck in without me seeing it.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
21 days ago

He saw a little action in the ACL this week, I think.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Oh yeah. That’s right. He’s in the netherworld of post injury complex league pitching.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
21 days ago

Sent on a rehab assignment on July 5.

First outing was a good one – struck out 4 in two innings.

BannedInLA
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

When it’s all said & done, Jansen might be our best chip at the deadline. He has uber big game experience and is pitching very well at the moment.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Yes, Anderson will also get some calls.

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