Draft Lottery Thread

Follow along as the Angels and others see how they did in the Draft Lottery.

https://www.mlb.com/draft/2025

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WallyChuckChili
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3 months ago

KieBOOM!!!!!!

The Stove is Burning Hot!

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago

To address what someone asked below. The reason why the ChiSux and the AAAA’s can’t get a top 10 pick is because while they may or may not have received revenue sharing, they did not “Increase payroll” after bombing out in 24, therefore they are noi higher than 10th.

That’s the real reason behind Arte, “Increasing the payroll” I believe literally one dollar over last year’s budget and that clears another lottery pick next year for the Halos…of course if we don’t go all the way in ’25.

BTW, now you know why the AAAA’s just signed their biggest FA signing in a looooong time.  😉 

(I slay myself)

Last edited 3 months ago by Angelz4ever
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Angelz4ever

The A’ss are trying to avoid trouble with the MLBPA over revenue sharing. They have to up payroll even more by opening day

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

I know a guy with a great contract that would most certainly get them well over the minimum payroll hump for the next two seasons.

And since the A’s have moved out of Oakland they wouldn’t have to worry about him beating up their fans anymore.

Get it done Perry.

steelgolf
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3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

red floyd
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3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Besides, then he’d be right by the Capitol, even though he isn’t Speaker of the Assembly any more.

steelgolf
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3 months ago

I’m as giddy as a school girl. Don’t mess this up Perry.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago

#2 for the halos, that’s ironic. Let’s hopefully pick a top pitcher that can come up and be with the big club after the AS break.

Pick up stix in ’26 (That should be the goal)

Fansince1971
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3 months ago

Wish there was a college 3Bman at the top of the draft. Then kick Rendon to the curb once and for all.

TapatioMan
Trusted Member
3 months ago

Really happy with the #2 pick.

Are we eligible for a top-6 pick for the next draft?

Couldn’t find a clear answer on how the eligibility works

Last edited 3 months ago by TapatioMan
Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Not under the current CBA, nope.

“Under the collective bargaining agreement’s rules, no revenue sharing paying team can receive a lottery pick in back-to-back drafts. “

Fansince1971
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Gotta hit on this one. Cannot f it up

TapatioMan
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

So, best pick we can get for the next draft is 10? Like the White Sox this year?

Turk's Teeth
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3 months ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

It would seem that way, unless they are just referring to CBT paying teams, though it doesn’t read like that.

FungoAle
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I think it is three successive times vs two, right?

Turk's Teeth
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3 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

No three successive times for revenue-sharing recipients, which the Angels are not.

The Wikipedia entry seems much clearer:

“Revenue-sharing recipient teams are limited to receiving lottery picks in two consecutive drafts and non-recipients can get one of the top six selections in a single draft year only. Also, a lottery-ineligible, non-postseason club can only select 10th overall or lower.”

Angels would appear to be one-and-done this year.

red floyd
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3 months ago
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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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3 months ago

#2 is better than #3! It’s difficult…but not impossible to screw up drafting this high.

How did Seattle and St. Louis sneak into the top five?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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God may indeed be a Cardinals fan. Meanwhile, the Mariners obviously sacrificed the tender meat of innocent children to their dark master again….

Fansince1971
Legend
3 months ago

No kidding. Cards getting that pick was Divine inspired.

I’m really pumped the Angels got the #2. It could have gone very differently.

WallyChuckChili
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3 months ago

Seattle, just by getting rid of Scott Servais

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago

Nice

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago

I want Bremner, but LaViolette would be pretty fun (assuming Holliday goes #1).

Neto, O’Hoppe, Schanuel, Adell, Moore, LaViolette is a legit legit core of young position players.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
3 months ago

Angels supposedly interested in Gleybor Torres as a free agent. Why? Poor fielder. Decent hitter. Will want real money. 🤷‍♂️

Cowboy26
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3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

Wash will fix him

FungoAle
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3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

oooofff! Not a fan.

Jeff Joiner
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3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

Can he play third? That would put Newman at short until Neto is back, Rengifo at second.

Once Neto is back we have this thing called depth. At least a bit.

Cowboy26
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3 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Gleyber played over 1000 innings of short in 2020 & 2021 but the numbers were pretty brutal. He’ll only turn 28 years old on Friday but he hasn’t played 3rd base since his Scranton/Wilkes-Barre minor league days over 6 years ago.

Pineapple12
Super Member
3 months ago

LETS GOOOOOOO

Mia
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Mia
3 months ago

Will we draft the next Mike Trout or the next Brandon Wood?

WallyChuckChili
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3 months ago
Reply to  Mia

Chevy Clarke?

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Mia

Hopefully an Erstad or Weaver type anchor. Realistically probably a Matt Thaiss.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Erstad was actually a pretty poor #1 over all pick….

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
3 months ago

Was he really though? Of 59 #1 picks since the amateur draft began, he’s #16 in career WAR, roughly in line with guys like Strasburg and Upton. Even in his draft class, which had some formidable performers, he’s third in career WAR among 1995 first rounders.

His decline was steep after age-31, but he burned fairly brightly in that first decade. He’s no Aiken or Moniak. 🙂

Cowboy26
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Well then Danny Goodwin sure as hell was a terrible 1-1 draft pick

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Mia

No, the next Dallas McPherson or Brian Taylor.

red floyd
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

So a guy who can play but is made out of glass?

Eric_in_Portland
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3 months ago

looking at CBS Sports, they list their top 5 draft prospects. Eh….Holliday, then 3 OFs, then a pitcher coming off TJS.

Turk's Teeth
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3 months ago

I’d probably stick with Baseball America.

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FungoAle
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Think Jace can make constant contact at the big league level? Quite the physical beast.

Turk's Teeth
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3 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

That’s what we’ll be watching this year to see – ideally his K rate falls to 20% or below.

Caglianone was a potential #1 December of last year, and we saw quickly what a little “swing and miss” can become in pro ball. Of course, Caglianone never played CF like LaViolette.

red floyd
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

They’ve got a 3B at #7….

Fansince1971
Legend
3 months ago

With the #2 pick a true rebuild is possible. I think it increases the argument to focus on 2027 and trade away Ward and Rengifo for high level prospects. Lets build something really cool!!

Eric_in_Portland
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3 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

plus we were so bad that after that #2 pick we’ll get the #5 in each succeeding round, which isn’t bad at all.

Cowboy26
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3 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

While we still try to compete .

Awesome

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
3 months ago

#2… lfg. Losing won’t be fun for a year or 2 but the team will be fun to watch.

LA_Seitz
Trusted Member
3 months ago

I feel like the biggest news coming out of this is that the Angels have an actual assistant GM.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago

WE’RE NO. 2!!
WE’RE NO. 2!!
WE’RE NO. 2!!

FungoAle
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Let’s hope we fare better than the LA Flakers with three successive No.2s.

Perry, we believe!

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
3 months ago

Guys like Bremner and Arnold just aren’t available to the Angels outside of a top 3-5 draft selection. It’ll be interesting if the Angels return to the relative safety of a high ceiling college arm with the #2 selection. They tend to retain their value for a few years on the trade market.

Given the poverty of the Angels’ development system, I’d be nervous selecting a prep bat like Holliday with a chip this blue.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

You assume it will be a college player that has proven himself

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

I have no assumptions about what Minasian’s draft room will do with a pick this high.

I’m just speaking to the economic realities of an Angels team that struggles to obtain frontline pitching, and the fact that good college arms tend to go very early in the draft.

WallyChuckChili
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3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

A Catcher, then move him to 3rd.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
3 months ago

Or first or OF. Hilarious.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

I personally don’t have much of an issue with drafting an advanced OF power bat early. The hit rate isn’t bad, and the Angels really have nothing in the system currently that looks like a 30+ HR OF, unless we’re fairly optimistic about Moore in LF.

The success rate with early drafted first basemen however is pretty low.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

The UCSB guy.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 months ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Would picking a college bat allow us to generate more extra slot money to use on late picks?

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
3 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Asks Perry. 🙂

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Though…. and I’m dreaming here…. this is pretty much new ground for the Angels under Arte. Maybe PTP and his two friends/staff in the FO/kitchen can talk Arte into seeing how drafting this high, not just for 1 round but for the first say 6 rounds, is a real opportunity to SAVE money by investing in guys who will develop both the guys from last draft and this one.

At this point Arte can be shown the value of guys like Neto and Logan…. even Ward. And maybe sold on the value of developing five of those type guys.

Maybe?

Nah. Let’s spend 250M on Burnes so he can be on a crap team till he’s 37.

FungoAle
Legend
3 months ago

Wow, spaced out, busy at work and missed the loto. Very PLEASED.

Congratulations to all!

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 months ago

the two teams with the best chance to go #1 ended up at #4 and #7. I still think, despite us getting a good pick, this lottery has too many slots (1 through 6) that punish the teams like, this year, Miami and Colorado.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 months ago

Wasn’t that the point. To keep teams from Astroing the system?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 months ago

I think so but this is too much. We didn’t tank, we just weren’t good and there was a possibility we could have fallen to 9th.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
3 months ago

Im fine with that (obviously because we didnt get burned).

Losing should be disincentivized