LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Guilty!

Ippei Mizuhara will plead guilty to bank fraud and submitting a false tax return under a 37 page plea agreement. He will probably do at least six years but is not likely facing anything like life imprisonment. It will probably cap out at about 9 years maximum. “Associate No. 1” to whom he wired the money, is apparently Ryan Boyajian who happens to be a star of Real Housewives of Orange County.

The Mariners selected left-hander Kirby Snead. The Pirates will now promote their number one pick in the 2023 draft, Paul Skenes. The Rays just placed Ryan Pepiot on the injured list and reinstated Taj Bradley. Pepiot was hit in the leg by a comebacker on Sunday. Marlins right-hander Edward Cabrera just went onto the IL with a right shoulder impingement. Rangers right-hander Dane Dunning also has shoulder issues. In his case it is called a right rotator cuff strain. The Giants placed their designated hitter Jorge Soler on the ten day IL. He also has a right shoulder strain, or does he? He might just have trying-too-hard-itis.

The Red Sox just designated infielder Zack Short for assignment. The Athletics are making moves all over the place.

The Cincinnati Reds just re-signed first baseman/DH Mike Ford to a major league deal worth $1.3 Million.

The crappy uniforms hall of shame does not have any Angels offerings, thankfully.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
8 days ago

I hope we get a certain bot tonight, we didn’t get too many last year. 🤘

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
8 days ago

We’ve seen him once this season. Detmers gives us a good chance for a bot comeback tour

smithy610
Super Member
8 days ago

From Sam Blum on his talk with Wash today:

I asked Ron Washington if he looks at 2024 as a rebuilding season/learn how to win season. Or a win-now, playoffs season.

“Win now. We’re still looking to get to the playoffs. If this becomes a rebuilding process, you guys will be the first ones to know about it. We’re trying to go out every night and win ballgames with the personnel that we have.

Our job is to get that personel prepared to go out there and do what the game asks them to do. If we can get them prepared and do what the game asks them to do, who says we
can’t win?

I know you look at our record, and our record don’t look like anything. But that’s not how we feel. Inside here, we feel like every night we go out there, we can win a ballgame. And it’s not going to be any different tonight.”

No rebuilding!!! Playoffs here we come!!!!!

Last edited 8 days ago by smithy610
angelslogic
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

You could easily replace Washington’s name with Ausmus, Maddon, or Nevin. They have all said the same thing and all have fallen way short.

2GA2Join
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

As long as Wash isn’t making any of the personnel decisions at the trade deadline, I’m ok with that. The attitude of the skipper should be exactly what he said above. I have no problem with that. If it was otherwise, that would be weird.
What was that quote about “not chasing wins”?

Perry is the one in charge of the plan. I sure hope he isn’t delirious enough to think he should go all in again this year and try to make the playoffs. He should sell every asset that makes sense.

smithy610
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Unless the Angels have a huge, unexpected turnaround, I think Perry has no delusions about being “buyers” at the deadline, w/o Trout, Rendon and anyone else who may go down from this point forward.

Last year was an obvious ploy to make a certain someone happy. Perry has no such situation this year. He should, and would be able to do the right thing this year.

smithy610
Super Member
8 days ago

I didn’t know our old friend/foe landed with the Royals. Hopefully Detmers K’s him 3x.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 days ago

Apparently we’re not getting the lineup until 1st pitch. Haha

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Too many toys to choose from for Wash. He was going to be the guy with the set line up.  🙂 

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

“sEt L1n3uP”

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

6:12 and nothing

2GA2Join
Super Member
8 days ago

That’s because we’ve acquired Mookie Betts, Juan Soto, and Zack Wheeler, but they are still scrambling to assign them numbers.

BannedInLA
Super Member
8 days ago

Trout needs to be our full-time DH moving forward but, I digress.

The stats from Witt Jr. and their Catcher are “Wow”.

steelgolf
Super Member
8 days ago

Wonder if they are loading up on all these waiver/MILB players to prepare for the big sell off of players with some value.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I have a negative opinion of Perry so I think it’s more desperation but I like the idea you have.

smithy610
Super Member
8 days ago

Sam Blum
@SamBlum3
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Mike Trout spoke today. He didn’t give a timeline for return.

He said he was given the option to DH the whole year, and postpone surgery. It would have been a very painful option, though. A ton of management. So he opted to get the surgery now.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  smithy610

If he’s unwilling to provide a timeline, it’s just easier to not expect him back this year.

smithy610
Super Member
8 days ago

Honestly, I would be surprised if he’s back this season. Obviously Perry had to say the injury is not season-ending to sell false hope to the fans.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I like these moves. No way these players can get worse on the angels like all their expensive additions.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago

We should call up captain Jack.

Cowboy26
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9 days ago
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2GA2Join
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

As long as Vader doesn’t sense him, he’s ok.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Obviously not a threat to the empire or anyone else for that matter . Career wise he hits lefties pretty good . You might be able to platoon him with that other new guy and get rid of Ehire or lump of Cole

Mia
Legend
Mia
9 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Are you alive? Yes? Here’s a uniform.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Mia

Exactly.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Another utility guy who was sort of good at one time.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

ARHM MAH GIRD! SO MUCH TITANIC DECK CHARS! LOOK. AH SMIRK SMART FACE. I GNER HIZ DORRY.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 days ago

Ehire, Pillar, Tucker and now Guillorme all seem to have previous ties to Ron Washington .

So what are we calling this motley crew ?

Wash’s unwashed?

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Helping to set a new culture and tone for this team takes a village. Wash is building that vision and village with people he knows and trusts. Everything takes time. We know this is a lost year, but I have hope in the foundation that is built and if we can change a culture, we might be able to do something sooner rather than later.

Mia
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Mia
9 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Careful, this might get a few people.

Twebur
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Wash is leading a rebuild. They won’t call it that, but it’s officially a rebuild the day Shohei signed elsewhere. Not a lot of mangers around that are willing to take that on. Wash and Neto seem to be early proof, I’m sure the other kids are benefiting too. I admit, I like the genuine enthusiasm. This team isn’t suited for the baseball bubba philosophies of Joe Maddon. Or the bland unoriginal, standard Nevin. Unfortunately for Wash, he needs upgrades to about 15 of the 26 man roster. That will takes years.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Yeah, that’s the rub. The question is how committed to the rebuild the rest of the organization is. As we know we’ll need to get really lucky in the draft and eventually be willing to spend some money. Two highly improbable things.

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I think we will spend money, that’s something Arte is good at. It’s finding the right guys to spend it on will be the biggest hurdle.
The right FA along with another year of good coaching for our youth and we start to move in the right direction. The less we have to rely on Trout the better. Imagine the day when he’s just a role player

2GA2Join
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Like maybe that Soto guy. I heard he is decent.

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
8 days ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

That will be #1 on my IIWPM list!

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Soto would be a good candidate because of his age. but will require a lot of money and possibly an overpay to convince him to come here.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

I agree but I feel like we have the position player role players and what we’re missing is 3 middle of the order Allstar or near Allstar free agents/players or 2 plus Trout. As previously mentioned, assuming Neto, Schanuel, and O’Hoppe turn into the players we hope they do, we still need a 2B, a 3B, a DH, and 1-2 OFs, 3 if Trout DHs. If Adell develops then he fills one of the OF spots. I like Mickey, but I’m not yet convinced he’s an everyday player. One of the new middle of the order stars will replace Rendon in two years but we’ll still nee a couple more. Even if O’hoppe can become the #5 hitter, if Trout hits 1st or 2nd we need legit #3 and #4 hitters. Unlike last year, O’Hoppe isn’t hitting for much power right now. Gotta see how it plays out.

2GA2Join
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

We’re set at C.
For now, we’ll pencil in Shanny at 1B. 1B is one of the easiest positions to fill in the future if needed.
Sign that Kim guy for 2B.
Neto at SS.
I think we’re stuck with Rendon for now at 3B, plus whoever else we can get to hold down the fort.
Outfield of Juan Soto, Trout, Adell and Mickey (rotating to DH also).

Sign that Burnes guy.
Followed by Detmers, Soriano, Canning, and Silseth? One of those might be swapped out by then.

Meanwhile I hope we’ve traded away Rengifo, Drury, Anderson, Ward, Sandy, Esty for some farm boost.

There, that’s my “IIWPM Fantasy Land 2025 Edition”.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I was thinking long term but that would be a good plan for next year although, depending on how people do this year, I would also add another middle of the order bat at DH, or OF if Trout moves to DH, and then replace Rendon in 2 years. We need to draft and develop corner IFs and OFs as well as a 2B. Depends on whether your plan for next year is to get better or tread water. just adding Soto would not be nearly enough. Still a long way to go this year though. Maybe the plumber becomes our 2B. Today, I would not count on Moniak for anything other than a 4th OF, but a lot can change in the next 4-5 months. Adel is the same way we need to see what he does the rest of the season. Ward may still be here next year as well. I was pretty sure he had 2 years of control left after this year. Remember, I’m not insisting anyone on the roster other than Canning get traded because of his service status. Rengifo may be in the same boat, Along with all expiring contracts. But, we should pursue trades for everyone on the roster other than our 3 young pitchers and the 3 primary youngster position players. If Adell continues to play well, he will likely be penciled in for next year. We’ll see who steps up.

2GA2Join
Super Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

My plan above is just what I hope we do no matter what. We want to get better, and I think that fills a lot of holes with good players. I’m trading away all the players that are not long term (in July) including Ward and Anderson. If they really did what I’m saying, I’d expect 2025 to be a “get seriously better” year but not necessarily contending, unless everything went right. Not many teams can go from worst team in MLB to contending in 1 year.
If I thought we really had a shot in 2025 for serious contention, then maybe I’d keep Ward and Anderson, in their final years, if they are still doing well. However, I don’t think that is the likely path.

Last edited 8 days ago by 2GA2Join
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Biggiswrth

Wait – we’re rebuilding with guys that have been released multiple times over the past year because they can’t hit, field or run?

Teams usually rebuild by improving the roster. To quote someone “build back better” is the concept. This is not a rebuild, we’re still tanking to improve our draft position – which will begin the rebuild.

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

I agree about the holes. Too many to plug right now. Plus very thin in too many areas. We do have a decent amount of pitching which is nice, but our MI depth doesn’t exisit!!!

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
8 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Officially a rebuild when Shohei left and Arte decided not to spend the equivalent money on anyone else

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Sooner would be fewer years instead of more years but certainly not next year or probably the year after. 2027 instead of 2029.

JackFrost
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

I agree Biggiswirth. Even if our young guys sans Trout finish last in the AL West I hope Wash is not fired. I DO think he is building something as you say. Whereas Nevin clearly had no plan other than to be a hardass “grit” kind of dude, Washington knows how to win and HAS won as a manager in the bigs.

I like the focus on defense (something we’ve been near the bottom of statistically the last several years) and I like the general emphasis on being aggressive and creating runs on the bases. I just would like to see that tempered with some better judgment, but, as others have mentioned the plan is new so it will take time to polish the rough edges.

Whatever happens this season I would like to see Wash stick around for a couple of years to materialize this plan.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Biggiswrth

I actually get what you’re saying. The team was a non-contender on day one. We all knew that to various degrees of bitchmoan. Now, via our fanbases EDJUJU we’ve managed to injure the entire team before mid-May.

Well. OK. It’s a little early to play a lot of the farm kids. We can play some kids. But you know what else teams need? The Dodgers vintage of Charlie Culberson. The roadbed of a good roster. We’ve got games. We’ve got roster space. Why not see if we can find a couple “culture guys” who certainly aren’t gonna carry the team, but will help “make” the team? Washingtonians. Nothing to lose for trying.

And hell, if this team losses 100+ games maybe it’ll kill off some Angels fans AND convince Arte to sell. You make a lost season a productive season still.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
8 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

How can you say he’s setting a new culture and tone for the team when he still continues to use suarez?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago

You can’t not use a player on your roster. Also, he knows there is nothing to lose this year and every time he puts Suarez out there he’s poking Perry to get rid of him. Suarez is Perry’s problem.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Cowboy26

We call them “The 1899 Cleveland Spiders”

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
9 days ago

LOL bonus points for the article photo

Ippei in a cage, I see what you did there.

RexFregosi
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Fortuitous indeed- it can be cropped some now (RIP Bill Lachemann) and better yet photoshop the jersey to blue

Mia
Legend
Mia
9 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

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HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
9 days ago
Cowboy26
Legend
9 days ago

Pizza eating contest? How could you ignore the great Calhoun?

Free Willie!

Twebur
Legend
9 days ago

The Romans ate lying down.

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tanana40
Super Member
9 days ago

A mediocre left handed bat who has never played much. Sounds about right.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
9 days ago

That reminds me, I need to do some sit-ups and crunches

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

Impressive slash line: .227/.303/.297

Pineapple12
Super Member
9 days ago

Am I delusional enough to believe we can stretch this winning winning streak to 9?

No, but also, yes. Detmers needs a bounce back performance in the worst way against a good KC club.

Twebur
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Am I delusional enough to believe we can stretch this winning winning streak to 9?

…….yes.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Pineapple12

You had me at: “Am I delusional”

😀

steelgolf
Super Member
9 days ago

Angels picked up a Luis Guillorme from the Braves, an infielder.

Pineapple12
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

No power, no speed.

To make a move this quickly means Drury’s hamstring must be fried.

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

That and 0 depth. When is the plumber back?

Twebur
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Why don’t the Angels give updates with injuries like most teams? Is this a media issue (poor coverage), or is there nobody on the Angels side that give the media the information?

I follow the Doyer close enough to know they have information and updates with injuries all the time.

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

True that. They just transferred RenDone to the 60 day without any update, although none is needed.

clover_black
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

both sides don’t care, and there aren’t enough fans to give shit.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

I don’t know. The Angels have followed an out of sight out of mind philosophy for years.

Twebur
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  Angelstan

Definitely nothing new.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Unfortunately, I think The Plumbers pipes are still clogged.

BannedInLA
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Seriously. I’d much rather give these reps to The Plummer.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Cause Goodrum and Guillorme are crap but the plumber? He’ll be awesome.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 days ago

He may not be any good, but like our other young players, I wanted to see him play this year so we could get a good read on who he is. There’s certainly still time. He played well last year when he was up.

RexFregosi
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

No power, no speed.

An obvious Angel! what took him so long to get here?
He’s going to fit right in.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

A left-handed hitting good glove 2B/3B with a career OPS of .348 against RHP’s?

I’d take that all day long.

halofansince1978
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Rendon will be the player to be named later. `;~}}

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
9 days ago

We can only hope.

halofansince1978
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Does David Fletcher get called back up to the Braves now?

halofansince1978
Super Member
9 days ago

Braves also got SS Zack Short from Boston today.

Twebur
Legend
9 days ago

Zack Coshart?

BannedInLA
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Sounds like our next leadoff batter…

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Competition for EHire as the most boring player on the roster.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Another candidate for the Mural. He and Calhoun can take up 2 spots each. A career OPS+ of 90, 24 this year and 71 last year. Only once has he played more than 69 games in a season. He’ll fit right in. We need a cheap body and he’s a cheap body. Basically we need players to fill the positions the youngsters don’t occupy so that the youngsters can play. Essentially we are having difficulty finding enough players to fill the 9 positions. Other than Trout and the youngsters, this may be the worst team in Halo History. As someone else said yesterday, this is not a complaint about the moves made after the season started, but a comment about what wasn’t done before. By the end of the year, we may not recognize the roster.

TrojanBoiler
Trusted Member
9 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

The guy that couldn’t outplay David Fletcher for a roster spot? Got it. Great.

steelgolf
Super Member
9 days ago

So, Boyajian, who was clearly involved in money laundering, at the very least, is given immunity for testifying against Bowyer? The feds must really want Bowyer bad, probably spent a ton of money investigating him and need to get this conviction. That desperation could work out well for Ippei, which may be the reason he pled guilty right away.

RexFregosi
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

It’s sounding like the casinos in Vegas that facilitate illegal SoCal booking making operations are the biggest fish the Feds are targeting, along with Bowyer.

smithy610
Super Member
9 days ago

Here’s a nice article of how Pillar has been a good influence in the clubhouse. Like I said in an earlier post, Pillar knows what his role is with the team and isn’t delusional about it, unlike Hicks.

“Since he’s been here, he’s been doing a lot of talking with our young kids, something we didn’t have,” Washington said. “He’s talking baseball, he’s talking situations. He’s talking about mistakes. What you should do in certain situations, how you handle this. That’s what veterans do. We were lacking that. Now we’ve got a veteran presence here.”

Washington has always maintained that Mike Trout and Anthony Rendon also provide that leadership, but neither has been with the team on this trip because they are injured.

“Pillar has had his career,” Washington said. “So what he wants to do now is make a difference by passing on his wisdom and knowledge. And that’s what veterans do. And these kids are gravitating toward him. He is a good find for us to bring here, because he doesn’t have an ego to the point where he wants to be on the field. Yes, he wants to be on the field because he’s a pro. But he understands what his role is here. And part of his role is to give. And he’s been giving since the day he arrived here and that’s going to be very beneficial to our young guys.”

Last edited 9 days ago by smithy610
Pineapple12
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Love it! With a super young team, good veterans are so vital.

I’ve always liked Pillar from a distance, nice being able to like him as a Halo. His contribution will no longer go unnoticed 🫡.

Twebur
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Not sure how accurate this is, and average age isn’t necessarily the best indicator of how young a team is…..but according to this, we are the 7th oldest roster in baseball. The Ageism angle I think is an excuse for a Bad roster.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/rosters/_/sort/average_age/order/true

smithy610
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Yeah, the eye test doesn’t match that list. Who is our 37 year old?

It just feels to me our core is young – Adell, Moniak, Schnauel, Neto, O’Hoppe, Detmers, Silseth, Canning. But I guess if you do consider everybody else then it skews older. Our bullpen definitely skews older.

Last edited 9 days ago by smithy610
Twebur
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

This organization promotes “washed up player” signings as a “positive leadership role” every year.

Can’t imagine having a job promoting this team. Every day needing to put a positive spin on one of the worst organizations in all MLB for the last 15 years must be exhausting.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
9 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

I think Garcia is 37

MarineLayer
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Sounds like they should have made him the manager. Isn’t that what Washington was supposed to do.

BannedInLA
Super Member
9 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

As per usual, Wash’s responses are refreshingly honest. He provides actual answers to questions.

This was also a fairly obvious critique of Hicks to boot.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
9 days ago

Every time we have to play against the Royals it takes me back to 2014 playoffs and our losing 3 games, but as the years pile up, the taste in my mouth gets worse. Why? That was the last time we made the playoffs, and the Royals went to a World Series.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
9 days ago

Still have no idea how that ball landed in Aoki’s glove.

tanana40
Super Member
9 days ago

His eyes were closed.

smithy610
Super Member
9 days ago

Royals bottomed out big time after they won the WS in 2015. Two back-to-back seasons of under 60 wins in 2018-2019, and they just finished last season with 56 wins. But now they seem to be on the upswing and the future seems bright.

Meanwhile, the Angels haven’t seem to hit the bottom yet. Or maybe the bottom just seems to get lower and lower each time the Angels seemed to have hit it.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
9 days ago

Yes. As we learned quickly, those Royals were good. They cracked the secret code for two years. It’s a shame one of the better Angels teams was playoff fodder for them in those years.

RexFregosi
Super Member
9 days ago

or even 1985, the year the Royals won the WS, we finished 1.0 games back in the AL West.

In 1984, we finished 3 games back of them. They were our biggest rivals in the 80s.

Twebur
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Those were great Royal teams.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
9 days ago

Watching Hamilton was very painful.

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
9 days ago

It’s because you haven’t had anything to eat since then.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

 😄 

BannedInLA
Super Member
9 days ago

I’ll never forget Weaver after game 3. You could tell that he KNEW that the window slammed shut on the team AND himself as an effective starting pitcher.

2014 was basically Weaver’s last gasp.

halofansince1978
Super Member
9 days ago

Royals are next…GO HALO!!

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