LA Angels Thursday News Crash: High Voltage

Just look at High Voltage Perry go! When he doesn’t sign people, he only doesn’t sign the very best! Never fear. It’s not like anybody else is doing anything noteworthy. Today is the deadline for the exchange of arbitration figures.

The Mariners claimed right-hander Mauricio LLovera off waivers from the Red Sox. The Rangers picked up Shane Greene and Jonathan Holder on minor league deals as well as Austin Pruitt. The Yankees signed Tanner Tully, also to a minor league deal. The Cubs claimed catcher Brian Serven off waivers from the Colorado rockies. Jhonathan Diaz got himself a minor league deal with the Mariners, as did Kirby Snead. The Dodgers got Elieser Hernandez on a minor league deal while the White Sox got Jake Woodford. The next winner of a minor league contract is Yacksel Rios. Come on down! Your deal is with the Mets.

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Here is a list of nationally televised MLB games in 2024, absolutely none of which involve the Angels. I guess we’ll just have to wait for the World Series! The Giants are favorites to sign Shota Imanaga. No really! There will be a new change to the rules designed to speed up the game. This on top of all the other recent rule changes such as the pitch clock violation rule. Here is an oldie but goodie about Diamondbacks giveaway night.

Cover photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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willtheangelswin
Member
6 months ago

soooo what’s the pitching staff look like?

Detmers, Sandoval, Canning, Tyler Anderson, Bullpen game.

folks… this is a 100 loss team… count on it.

Fansince1971
Legend
6 months ago

I have come to believe that either one of the following is correct (or maybe both). This is just my opinion – not based on anything other than what I have seen thus far this offseason:

Arte is being super cautious on spending based on concern over television revenue and butts in seats after losing his primary draw (i.e. Ohtani) and/or

Free agents with a choice (i.e. ones with multiple bidders) have little interest in playing in Anaheim for a AAAA team with little chance at the playoffs.

I suppose there could be some big deal in the works and we will all be surprised with a splash. But I am very doubtful. I am guessing the only players who will agree to sign a deal with the Angels are ones who have little chance of getting contracts elsewhere (for ex Plesac).

Last edited 6 months ago by Fansince1971
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

if Arte put a marketable, competitive product on the field, he honestly wouldn’t need to worry about TV revenue.

The TV revenue “thing” gives Arte cover for being “Arte”

Fansince1971
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6 months ago

Agreed – but I think all of this was covered for multiple seasons by the Ohtani smoke screen. Now that this has lifted, what is left aint very pretty.

Last edited 6 months ago by Fansince1971
2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I was thinking something similar, but I figure there is one other (good) possibility…
That finally Arte has allowed Perry to follow his own plan and make baseball decisions, and his plan is to let the kids play and not make any big commitments, as some here have wanted.

I admit that is hard to believe.

Fansince1971
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I respect your thought process but would find that hard to believe. A nearly 80 year old billionaire leopard rarely changes his spots.

Last edited 6 months ago by Fansince1971
FungoAle
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6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Maybe leadership realizes this team is not built for the post season and refuse to spend big dollars unnecessarily. They are waiting for the first two FA tiers to get picked up and reduce the number of teams willing to spend. Angels swoop in to pick up a few veterans on friendly deals to augment the kids. And…this is the right approach.

Fansince1971
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6 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I don’t disagree that this is an approach that could be justifiable. But it is not what I would call “aggressive”. I think Perry used that word intentionally because he wanted to be aggressive. I’m just not sure he can be aggressive if free agents don’t want to play in Anaheim. I’m not sure Wash is the draw that Perry thinks he is.

Last edited 6 months ago by Fansince1971
FungoAle
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6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Perry stated the Angels would be “aggressive” when Shohei was still fair game. Now that The Man has signed with the Dodgers, no need for knee jerk moves when the team has many holes. Besides, Perry always states he is looking to improve the club, that is what GMs do.

Perry will sign some guys but not what folks here consider worthy of a big splash. I liked the Plesac move, potential to regain his career trajectory and turn into an asset to be dealt or a mainstay, for $1M…need more of those signings.

Pineapple12
Super Member
6 months ago

Stroman is NOT an Angel

LFGGGGGGG!!! Seriously, screw that guy

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago

Seeing how things are going, I just cannot imagine that Trout is not asking for a trade. He would have to be super enamored with living in OC to want to still play here. We are going to be like a AAAA team for the next 2 years at least.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

He’s untradeable. No way Arte eats $100m shit sandwich to make Mike happy – when he won’t spend half that much to sign a 3 or 4 SP.

I like Trout, but no one forced him to sign a 10 year extension. Unless he asks to restructure his contract, he’s playing the fiddle on the deck of this sinking ship.

Last edited 6 months ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
Fansince1971
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6 months ago

I hear that but it would probably be $100 million over 7 years which is still a lot (around $15 mil per season) but less than $100m straight up.

More importantly this would save Arte around $160m over 7 seasons which is significant.

I think he would consider losing $15 mil per year for 7 years to save $160 million.

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Not to mention the “PR” part of it. If Trout wants out, and the media in any way detects that, and Arte keeps him and denies his wish…. there will be a storm of uproar and bad press, just like the Ohtani fiasco. And it would weaken Perry’s hand for trading him later.
I think if Trout indicates he wants out, they will make it happen.

FungoAle
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6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I’ve kind of lost respect for Trout if he does not want out. At a minimum, he should be putting pressure on the front office and go public with criticism of the shit-show. Don’t let Moreno off the hook.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Think about everything that has transpired over the past 5 years: Skaggs, drugs, dealers on the payroll, bribery scandal, fired GMs and Managers, Ohtani – do you really think Arte frets over bad press?

Trout at 32 is nothing resembling Trout at 27 both as a fan favorite and a player. So if Trout wants out, BFD. If he’s serious, he’ll need to put his cash on the table. No way he begs to go and keeps the contract as currently structured.

willtheangelswin
Member
6 months ago

if by restructure you mean more years and more $$ ..that doesn’t make sense…and he CANT take less money/years…even if he wanted to… (he doesn’t)

He should go the Anthony Davis route and start trashing the franchise (remember they promised him they would compete when he signed 🙂 )

The Angels have broken every promise to the fans..to the players… to everyone…. #sad

BannedInLA
Super Member
6 months ago

Agents, management teams and spouses don’t let these guys turndown long term deals when presented.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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6 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Agreed, and that’s why no one feels pity when they turn out sour.

willtheangelswin
Member
6 months ago

I don’t think Arte needs to eat 100 million to trade trout…he may need to eat 50 tho… and he SHOULD do it.. because they promised him when they signed him to the long contract that they would compete… they haven’t… they arent going to… time to say goodbye and good luck in Philly Mike!

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago

I really thought Stroman was likely earlier in the off-season, but he went to the Yanks now.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
6 months ago

Not too many great signings yet.

But, hey, maybe Perry has something up his sleeve.

Or, he could be so gun shy after his horrible late season trades last year that he’s afraid to pull the trigger.

Whatever the case may be, Perry has got to be cooking something in the kitchen, right?

clover_black
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  rosstrade

arte has no tv money and the golden ohtani goose flew away.

It’s pretty much a wrap.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

Arte may be worth a billion or two, but he really is cash poor.

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  rosstrade

Only thing cooking in the kitchen is gruel!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
6 months ago

Stroman to Yanks; 2 years, $37m

Yankees To Sign Marcus Stroman
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/yankees-making-progress-on-deal-with-marcus-stroman.html

Last edited 6 months ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
BannedInLA
Super Member
6 months ago

Another one bites the dust.

Refer to the bargain rack discussion earlier in the thread.

FungoAle
Legend
6 months ago

Stroman will implode with the Yanks. Bad thing, one less B.S. savior.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago

Alright, the Halos have finally signed Blake…..or it wasn’t the Halos, never mind….

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Blake Parker ?

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago

Yankees have made offer to Snell.
I guess I’m kind of glad, we shouldn’t be signing him.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

well either way , with BorAss as his agent, I doubt Snell will be a schnell signing.

Last edited 6 months ago by Cowboy26
Eric_in_Portland
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I hate the Yankee front office. The article I just read says that the sides remain far apart. So it’s the Yanks, acting like of course they might deign to make an offer. It’s like when they say they’re “considering” Ohtani, like wouldn’t he be the lucky one? Or when they act shocked that other teams would want their “highly touted” prospects, the ones who are like #21 and #30 in the Skank organization. Of course they might have some interest, little though it may be, in Cease, but for Chicago to want anything back! Why, that’s uncivilized!

Anyway, this “offer” is a nothing.

“Snell receives contract offer from Yankees”.

“Yankees show interest in Stroman”

Actual headlines ar mlb.com

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

more on the “offer”…

“MLB Network insider Jon Heyman reports in the New York Post that the Yankees have made “an opening offer” to Snell. The terms are unknown, but Heyman adds there is still a “big gap” between Snell’s asking price and what the Yankees have put on the table”

no point in even calling this news

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
6 months ago

Anything Heyman says about a Boras client is at Boras bidding.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Strohman’s stock just went up.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
6 months ago

I’m kinda bummed Puig got snatched up. The Halos should go for Trevor Bauer and every other mental reject out there. If the team won’t be entertaining on the field, at least their personal lives should provide good copy.

With Ron Washington’s past drug issues, he would be their king.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

Aroldis Chapman is still available. So is Roberto Osuna. And Julio Urias just got a reprieve from the L.A. District Attorney”s office.

Maybe we can pry Marcell Ozuna from the Braves?

RexFregosi
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Wander probably can be had cheap from the Rays – out of all the warped ball players, if we sign any one, i vote for Wander

BannedInLA
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Sign me the F’ up for Chapman.

Offers immediate help and has trade deadline value.

Also, I’m guessing he can impart some ben there, done that wisdom to Bachman. Soriano & Joyce.

BannedInLA
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

So……. Bauer & Urias on “fix my image” contracts?

Could play with with “fixed his life” Ron Washington as manager.

Last edited 6 months ago by BannedInLA
Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

That worked so well with Josh Hamilton.

BannedInLA
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Difference is that Hamilton got a front line contract.

Bauer/Urias will be short term and relatively cheap. Oh, and they can pitch.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Actually Hamilton’s best and most functional (notice I didnt say cleanest) performances came with Ron Washington as his manager so hes used to dealing with head cases.

BannedInLA
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Which is my point re: Washington managing Bauer/Urias.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Well then, Why the hell not? Evil Arte killed Tyler Skaggs, bribed City of Anaheim officials, supported Donald Trump and once kicked a puppy.

Signing Bauer and Urias should be right up his alley.

2GA2Join
Super Member
6 months ago

Well MLB.com has predicted that we’ll lose the World Series in 2033.

We only need to hold on 10 more years!

(Although we still lose)

https://www.mlb.com/news/predicting-world-series-winners-through-2033

Last edited 6 months ago by 2GA2Join
Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Was that the Oakland or Mexico City Angels?

Last edited 6 months ago by Angelz4ever
JakeTaylor
Trusted Member
6 months ago

Rendon interview. Most of it is him talking about family, books and his Christian faith but he does talk some baseball. Probably the only reason he agreed to do the interview.
https://twitter.com/JackVitaShow/status/1745470428431188144

Twebur
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

Waiting for Sam the Hats Rebuttal speech……

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

for is it not written that lo! Jesus did grab the shirt of a non-believer and take a half hearted poke at his noggin?

MarineLayer
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

He should just retire so he can pursue all those things that are clearly important to him than playing baseball.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Yes including haunting you in your dreams  👻 

MarineLayer
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Glad you love him so much. You get three more years of him.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
6 months ago

As I was reading through the varied perspectives from both doomers and better fans than I, this every rookie quote came to mind:

“I’m just happy to be here at CTPG, God willing with hard work I will be able to contribute something meaningful. Excuse me now, I really need to get to work”

Last edited 6 months ago by PedroCerrano
Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
6 months ago

If TV money is disappearing, what does that mean for the Dodgers who are committing so much for the next 20 years as an organization. I’m sure that MLB will find a way to get their money back but maybe the Dodgers are digging a big hole that a few injuries is going to blow up?

Fansince1971
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

I think the Dodgers tv deal is different- as I recall it’s Spectrum and fans can also stream but I’m not certain.

In any event with both Ohtani and Yamamoto the revenue streams from Japanese television and advertising will be abundant.

Twebur
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I think in the end revenue sharing will be revamped.

Fansince1971
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

It should be. But Dodgers will resist due to their unbelievable investment. Why should the Dodgers foot the bill for the players and then have all the foreign revenue split between teams? It’s a legit question. .

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Because even the Harlem Globetrotters need the Washington Generals.

RexFregosi
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

i think the dodgers won’t have any trouble getting TV money but like the Yankees, they aren’t sharing. The Yankees i believe are in a class by themselves for tv money. even with all these stars, dodgers probably will never approach yankee tv mpney but with 80 million Japanese tuning in, you never know.

seems to me the TV dollars will be appropriate for the market and Angels should be ok.

A’s in vegas? – lol, long term they’ve shot themselves in the foot.

smaller market teams will feel the affect though – Dbacks will never be able to compete financially

Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago

Well, Puig off the board!

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
6 months ago

I saw the headline, started to read about what they would do to change the game, then saw it was The Onion… smh

MarineLayer
Super Member
6 months ago

I wonder if Minasian buys his clothes any Marshall’s, Ross or TJ Maxx.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I very well could be mistaken, but I thought one of the article on him mentioned he shops at “Ahmed’s Surplus Tents and Awnings”

Angels2020Champs
Legend
6 months ago

He’s always struck me as a wannabe Kohl’s Kash guy

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Twebur
Legend
6 months ago

Who is pictured walking with PTP (likely on their way to lunch)?

a Mitt Romney
b Joaquin Phoenix
c John Hamm

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I don’t know, but I’m calling him “no socks bro”.

RexFregosi
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

thats the agentista of our former DH-ista, the guy that has arm troubles some other team in socal took off our hands.

10% of $700M? maybe he can afford socks now

Twebur
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

………..but he will need to wait until 2042 to buy them with the deferred money.

He should just be thankful that the prediction of the “Super El Niño” was completely wrong. No fear of trench foot by keeping his feet dry.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

It’s his designated food taster, Mitt Romney.  😝 

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

OMG so Nez Balelo and Mitt Romney are the same person?

Does Shohei’s mom know that?

I wonder if Perry knew that when he was so busy kissing his ass.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Goodwill?

M.C.Homer
Member
6 months ago

Fix the bullpen Perry!
Would have been a different story the Last 2 years if the Angels had one

M.C.Homer
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

Or if they had someone who could manage what they had better

BannedInLA
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

I agree, but it would be helpful if our starters could reliably pitch 6+ innings versus 4.2 innings.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Hence why I’m not on the Snell bandwagon (although I don’t see many people here on it either)

BannedInLA
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

With each passing day, it seems clear(er) that we’re not going “big” vis-a-vis free agency…..

matthiasstephan
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

He averaged 6 and 2/3 innings last season, and over six the season before.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

Actually Snell only averaged 5 and 2/3 innings last season.

5 and 1/3 in 2022
4 and 2/3 in 2019, 2020 and 2021
5 and 5/6 in 2018
5 and 1/3 in 2017
4 and 2/3 in 2016

So the dude has never averaged over 6 innings per start in any season hes pitched in.

SchofieldsWalkoff
Trusted Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

is that out of line with MLB averages?

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

For Angel pitchers? maybe not but for the rest of the league not sure Last year Detmers averaged 5-1/3, Griffin Canning Averaged 5-1/3, Anderson 5-1/3 and Sandoval 5-1/6.

RexFregosi
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

i would love to have Snell in our rotation

do it Arte

M.C.Homer
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Can’t be afraid to throw strikes. Too much nibbling.

BannedInLA
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

The CJ Wilson stank still infects our staff, apparently.

M.C.Homer
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Memories of Jarrod Washburn throwing strikes to big Papi who then hit one into the next time zone in the playoffs. Washburn smiles, throws up his arms “it’s the best I can do”

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

Wash should have jammed that fat ass Juicer inside instead he left it over the plate and let him slap it over the green monster

M.C.Homer
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Music to my ears..

RexFregosi
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  M.C.Homer

i think thats bonds. barry bonds.
game 1 2002 WS

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
6 months ago

Spent 5 days at the ABCA National Convention. Had some amazing conversations. Was talking to Clint Hurdle for a bit while my son was hitting in a cage to demo some tech, (we’d chatted before) when up walks Brad Hawpe (who had a brief stint at the end of his career with the Angels) and who is a friend of mine here in Texas and just an awesome dude. Then all of a sudden multiple ex-players come up and I’m sitting there like a deer in headlights. What a fantastic energy Hurdle is. I talked to him about how I wanted him to be the Angels, and he really wanted it. He was a little dumbfounded because all it would have taken was to make him the 17th highest-paid bench coach. Way to go Arte. #SellTheTeam