LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: OHIO!

Good morning Angels fans. Have some links.

Angels News

So, the draft lottery means that, despite finishing with the 6th worst record (of lottery eligible teams) the Angels will pick 8th. Why? Because somehow, they got jumped by the state of Ohio as Cleveland and Cincinnati got the first 2 picks from 9th and 14th place respectively. The number 1 better not be a Lebron James or I swear this was rigged.

KC cannot even get a top 5 pick

Perry did sign someone. A bullpen arm from SD, Luis Garcia to 1/4.25M deal. Yay?

Oh, and Mike Trout is staying. Stop asking, Philly.

Around Baseball

NYY and Boston traded. Yep. Alex Verdugo, the guy from the Mookie Betts deal with the Dodgers is now a Yankee. Gonna have to shave…

Marco Gonzales is now a Pirate. Yeah, for basically nothing. How the mighty have fallen.

White Sox sign the KBO MVP. Would have rather have him…

Lots of sports gambling recently. MLB is trying to set some rules.

Ohtani still hasn’t signed and no one knows where he will sign. Not even Dave Roberts, who blabbered for 20 minutes and got scolded by the Dodgers ownership maybe. Oh and since no one knows anything, sportswriters are getting a lot of heat from teams since they say stuff like saying the Cubs are out and then get into a fight in Nashville.

In short, Bob Nightengale has been hilarious to watch since he is wrong all the time and still has a job. And maybe is helping the Angels.

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes.

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Fansince1971
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4 months ago

If it were the Angels they would have kept Soto until he became untradeable.

JackFrost
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

No, if it were the Angels they would have traded Soto but not even gotten a proven MLB entity like King back, it would have been only prospects.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago

Jeimer Candelario off the board…Reds. A once mentioned guy that Perry had the red hots for.

BannedInLA
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I thought he would be a good fit in OC, but at the same time, it would have been a likely overpay to nab him.

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago

Oh well, Eduardo off the board.

Soto too, for anyone who actually wanted us to try to acquire him.

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago

Interesting that there are reports that we’ve engaged in discussions regarding Bieber, Glasnow and Burnes.

It would seem that the currency we do have is money, and the currency we don’t have is prospects.

I’d much rather see us sign free agent pitchers right now. Unless we can pull of a clever trade like some people have put in their IIWPM…

BannedInLA
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Agreed.

I’m OK with the tear it down & play the kids plan, but IFFFF we planning to “compete” which translates to, “we’re going to spend money”, it’s a no brainer to spend it on pitching.

I have some level optimism on our young starters, but come on, assuming that we are “set” with this group is delusional.

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Then again, if Perry manages to trade for Burnes and sign Yamamato, I won’t be complaining…

BannedInLA
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I don’t know that we have the ammo to swing a Burns trade, but if we’re going to spend big, “F*ck it holmes”, bring me Yamamoto.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Unless we’re dealing O’Hoppe, Neto and Schanuel – there’s no way we have the package to structure a deal of that magnitude

BannedInLA
Super Member
4 months ago

If that’s the price of admission, the answer is NO.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

You could add Burnes and Bieber to this team and the Angels still are sub-.500. Just focus on 2nd or 3rd tier starters; Paxton, Flaherty, Lauer…types.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

This makes no sense. Last July, We traded away 2 of our most vaunted prospects for 2 months of a broken down middle of the road starter.

And now with a depleted farm system we are somehow magically going to compel The Guardindians, The Rays and the brew crew to take our crap in return for their no. 1 pitchers on a potential walk year?

Right.

Fansince1971
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

You’re sounding like me!! 😂

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Angels are not getting those guys. Perry just walking around the winter meetings stretching his pant legs. Be interested next year though.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

The reports are bullshit. Always are, always have been. It’s about creating the illusion that the Angels are doing everything possible to improve, but will seemingly always fall short for reasons beyond their control.

Last edited 4 months ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

So Evil Arte is controlling the press now?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Never said that. Anyone can leak “information” to the press. It’s on the press to do their due diligence before reporting.

BannedInLA
Super Member
4 months ago

The press cannot spell due diligence let alone practice it.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Another currency we may not have is desirability.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago

Sportskeeda online story tagline:

Astros fans unimpressed with team’s Dylan Coleman acquisition from Royals – “Always shopping in the bargain bin”
LOL, not just Halo fans getting tired of it.

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago

Signing Cimber, Calhoun and MacGyver were the 3 moves required to convince both Ohtani and Yamamoto to sign here.

You’ll see.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

The cup half full version is lots of money left to sign Ohtani.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago

Adam Cinder RP signed-he’s a side-arm slinger or a 3:00 thrower like we used to say. Helps change hitters hitting and tracking planes.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Pair him up with Herget.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Our Bullpen at the end of last Year was:

Estevez
Soriano
Joyce
Caceres
Rosenberg
Ingram
Herget
Wantz

You have to admit that Kolarek, Garcia and Cimber would be upgrade over at least have of those names. Of course it may an upgrade just getting us back to replacement level.

Angelstan
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yea. Well said.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Angelz4ever

All joking aside, I am actually for real OK with signing up a pile of veteran arms that are somewhat disposable. If we’re gonna have Joyce, Torres, Murphy, Ingram, Yovan, Bachman and God knows who else getting innings as young men in that pen some veteran grit will be good. Cheap grit’s even better.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

Our Grit has gotten cheaper without being any more grittier.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Back to 2021 when Sleepy Joe Maddon and Perry often spoke about having bullpen arms with “different looks.” How did that work out?

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I guess it’s a matter of just how “different” we are looking at.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

IDK. It seems like all of the Angel pitchers look the same when they turn around to see the ball go over the fence.

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago

Someone should tell Perry that he got sat at the little kids table at the Winter Meetings. He thinks he is getting lots of moves done.

steelgolf
Super Member
4 months ago

Adam Cimber? This year he got shelled, was good in 21 and 22 though.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Anaheim is a dumping ground for failed major leaguers. We’ll try to convince ourselves that Perry is picking up good relievers. We’ll find out that Loup and Tep were better

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago

Welcome to “Dumpster Diving with Arte and Friends”. The game show where Arte and his friends find the underperforming pitchers and you decide which one of the reclamation projects will fail the fastest. If you win, it’s lifetime season tickets to the SLC Bees for you and a guest (transportation is not included).

Please give a big Halo welcome to your host, Roger Lodge!

red floyd
Legend
4 months ago

My money is on Aaron Loup

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

It’s also where good major leaguers come to fall apart via the power of shit fan ju ju. We’re the best worst place. Fans in places like Cleveland have the excuse of being in Cleveland. But our Donkey Powers are something special…. Knicks fan level special.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 months ago

Fan juju has nothing to do with it. Having a poor farm, needing to fill the bullpen, having little cash because of the big splashes, leads us to getting cheap labor which means castoffs

BannedInLA
Super Member
4 months ago

Toxic OC Privilege?

Pineapple12
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Extremely small sample size in ’23 and I think he battled an arm impingement injury.

I’m not a fan of soft-tossing relievers, but I’m a huge believer in positive regression for historically good relievers coming off a down year.

1 year, $1.65 million? Good deal.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

He missed the last three months of the season with a shoulder impingement. He was no -tendered by the Jays.

Not only was he ineffective, he’s got shoulder issue too.

Pineapple12
Super Member
4 months ago

If he doesn’t bounce back, cut him. The financial commitment is nowhere near Loup or Tepera, so I’d think its fair to assume his leash won’t be as long.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

So the silver lining is we can get rid of him without losing a lot of money

steelgolf
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’m just kind of meh on this move. Not expensive, was good in 21 and 22, so roll the dice. If he is not injured, he may be fine.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Shiver me Cimbers…another Angel Transfer Portal scrub.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  steelgolf

YES! Adam Cimber! Keep the parade of barely perceptible moves coming Perry! Let this be our biggest move all winter.

“Boo hoo scrubs oh no! We need a rebuild but not…. SCRUBS!” weeps real baseball man. I say we got Bo Porter, now lets become his era of Astros!

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago

We also signed MacGruber too!

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Oops, no MacGyver.

Wait, no, actually Obi Wan.

That would actually be awesome if we did sign Obi Wan… he’d be better than Ohtani. Well, at least the Ewan version, I’m not sure about Alec.

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Maybe he has a good cutter.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton
Last edited 4 months ago by Cowboy26
PedroCerrano
Super Member
4 months ago

So we got Willie Mays Cole Calhoun going for us, which is nice.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/angels-sign-willie-calhoun-to-minor-league-deal.html

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago

We just signed Calhoun!

See, Perry did something…

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  2GA2Join

YES! This is the type of move I’m looking for. One we won’t even remember in 2026.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
4 months ago

A move we won’t remember in 2026 is better than a move we will remember for bad reasons.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

What’s fascinating is looking at our rosters from past years and barely recognizing players. And I mean within the last 5 seasons

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

exactly. give the people what they want. CtPG Guy can’t bemoan this signing for all that long no matter what.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

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Baseball writers….

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago

They’re just rolling 20-sided die and adding in their experience proficiency.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago

I predict Ohtani will sign a contract within the next 2-3 months.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

They played at my gradnite at Disney.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Great band. Great documentary
https://youtu.be/EOUsIYESOpM?si=jUCDCg1O6K4cfrC8

RexFregosi
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

By Friday, and it will be with the fighting cats out of the bag.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
4 months ago

Dennis Santana just signed with Yankees. Angel fans might as well just write this season off.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

Indeed

PedroCerrano
Super Member
4 months ago

Chicken or Egg? I was just talking with my brother who suggested that if the Angels were truly close to signing Ohtani that another big FA pitcher signing would be likely. I’m not convinced that those guys will want to sign with the Angels until after Ohtani is securely in-house and even then the Angels prospects are dubious.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

Does your brother know Arte? Cuz that aint the way he rolls.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

This just in…Angels sign Albert Pujols to a 10 year/$500mm contract that will carry him to his age 53 56 season.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

Does it include a 10 year $20 million Personal Services Contract to age 63 66 ?

PedroCerrano
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

No he’s planning a Rolling Stones type reunion tour with the Cardinals for his late 60s.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

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Not buying it

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2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago

Eduardo apparently making a decision between 2 teams by tomorrow.

I know a number of people thought he would be one of the right guys for us to sign. I’m getting concerned that we will sit around waiting for Ohtani and miss out on guys like this, and get caught without a chair when the music stops at Spring Training.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

For me, the intrigue with Eduardo’s two teams is not at the same level as Shohei’s two teams

2GA2Join
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Yes, indeed, that is probably how everyone feels too.

Except probably Eduardo and his agent.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Based upon the reported price tags, I would rather have Eduardo than Shohei

Im just sayin’

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  FungoAle

We aren’t one of the two teams.

Unless he didn’t want to go to the Dodgers cause family back east…. but Anaheim is closer….

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
4 months ago

If we’re back on the ground ball plan….

Sign Tim Anderson, plan on Drury at third, with Rengifo as the utility guy? 3rd has been Drury’s worst defensive position (although he didn’t look good at first last year, either).

Pineapple12
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Anderson is coming off his worst season offensively AND defensively. Plus he got KOd by JRam.

Keep him far away

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Perry’s plans has rolled snake eyes every year with the MLB roster. I don’t think he focuses on a plan to the level you do. Regardless of the pitcher type, you need fielders, competent fielders.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Washington will use his Jedi level defense training skills to morph Drury into three Gold Gloves ala Eric Chavez.

Roy Hobbs
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

If they were able to do that with Drury, he would be a great affordable multi year solution at 3B. That would be huge. Now you have me drinking the cool aid.  🙂 

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
4 months ago

The Angels change plans each year like a high school kid trying to finally find his way to being cool.

This year we’ve hired infield defensive guru Ron Washington and signed two relievers who get a lot of ground balls.

Obviously this year’s plan is to get grounders and turn them into outs. So which starting pitchers have high ground ball rates.

Pineapple12
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Praying Perry has finally come to the (correct) conclusion that we need a bullpen with high-velo relievers. Enough of the Tepera, Wantz, Herget, Leone, Weiss types.

Estevez – Joyce – Soriano – Garcia will bring the heat. More work needs to be done on the pen.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Claudio, Hoyt and El Sluggo Sleggers says hi.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Yep. Throwing hard but not missing bats is no bueno. I’d take Chad Bradford over most of these hard throwers because he knew how to pitch.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Pineapple12

Quesadilla might be back too….

matthiasstephan
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Hasn’t that been our plan for a while? It was with Simba patrolling SS, the reason we went with Iglesias there too, if memory serves.

Sandoval, Canning, Detmers and Ohtani (plus Lorenzen, Heaney – for nostalgic purposes) are all in the top 100 for ground ball outs.

BannedInLA
Super Member
4 months ago

They’re great at surrendering HOMERS, too.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
4 months ago

We’ve had lots of plans over the years. Arte went all sluggers with Pujols and Hambone for a bit, then we had the fly ball pitchers of the Dipoto 4, a dash of this plan, and some flat out praying guys like Harvey would rebound.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

WWAD = what will Arte do……..this time.

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Buy a big name just starting on the downside of his career that is about to become injury prone then spend money practically nowhere else. (On the field)
Hire people that will only do what I tell them. No baseball experience necessary. (Off the field)

I read in the Athletic yesterday a comment by a GM (I think) that those big spending teams that don’t make the playoffs have owners that meddle too much.

BannedInLA
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Curious direction since as starting pitchers are adept at surrendering gopher balls.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

For next year, whatever but post-season success depends on swing and miss arms. This is more of the same.

Pineapple12
Super Member
4 months ago

Juan Soto is about to be a Yankee. Judge and Soto is nasty sheeeesh.

“Source: The Padres’ return in the Juan Soto trade is expected to include King, Thorpe, and *at least* two additional players.”

https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1732449370983862340?t=J9aZ9_FDDqjdQl5PFwoTIQ&s=19

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I’m glad SD got King and Thorpe in the deal. The MFY’s now need to sign Soto or suffer the same fate as the Angels

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Man. I sure am glad we didn’t trade Ohtani at the deadline in 2022. Instead Arte acted like the idiots who kept calling last season “must win” and traded a bunch of our prospects rather than keep em and gain a pile.

Sure, having nine or ten solid prospects would have been great, but it was also totally cool spending a whole year bitching about wasting Ohtani while squeezing our thighs together worrying about what he was thinking every time the wind changed direction. Awesome GOATness poop pile.

Tear it down PTP. Trade what we can. Lose many games. Get a top 5 pick. Build the farm. Hopefully some of the fanassholes who root for this team die off while we march in the desert. Then win before Trout retires.

BannedInLA
Super Member
4 months ago

As “Mr. X” stated in the movie ‘Layercake’, have a plan and stick to it.

The question is, do we have a plan?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

The last 10 years serves as the source to answer that question

Mia
Legend
Mia
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Soto has that asshole quality the Yankees love. He should fit in well there.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Mia

I know that he won a championship with the Nationals but after watching him I”m not convinced he is THAT guy who will carry your team through struggles. Perhaps he won’t need to be in NYC with Judge but there’s something about him that I just don’t care for. Long way to say asshole quality I guess.

Hoping that Arte doesn’t parachute in at the 11th hour with a bag full of money and players but that’s not likely as the Angels lack real prospects.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Soto loves Soto. He definitely will not sign an extension and test FA waters. One year rental but still surprised that a couple more contenders did not get involved. Dodgers were probably on the forbidden list but seemed the Yankees were the lone players all along.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Looking like a nice return for SD. Some nice pitching depth to go along with salary relief.

The problem for SD is they are shedding salaries of productive players. Snell put up 6 WAR for $16.6 million and Soto another 5.5 WAR for $23 million. That’s 11.5 WAR for what we pay Rendon, essentially.

Last edited 4 months ago by Jeff Joiner
Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I consider this smoke. Not even close to real

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I forgot is Judge still a good player?