LA Angels Tuesday News Crash:

The same old stuff is still being written about the Angels’ managerial search.

Seven players got qualifying offers, including Shohei Ohtani.

The Blue Jays exercised their two year option on Chad Green. The Giants exercised their club option on Alex Cobb while Sean Manaea opted out of his contract. Drew Smyly exercised his player option.

Meanwhile, the Marlins have officially hired Rays General Manager Peter Bendix as their President of Baseball Operations.

The Guardians hired Stephen Vogt as their manager. The Padres are now considering David Ross. The Cubs hired Craig Counsell. The Mets in turn hired Carlos Mendoza.

Here are the 2023 Gold Glove Winners.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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cookmeister
Trusted Member
6 months ago

I think the Manager will be either Buck or Wash.

FWIW (I hate to be that guy, but I’m going to be). I’ve heard some behind the scenes stuff on Wash that are not too good. Source said he knows baseball and a good teacher, but is not great in the clubhouse and talks behind players backs.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  cookmeister

And He would use up his entire decade f word allocation in just one pregame speech

https://vimeo.com/31675320

Last edited 6 months ago by Cowboy26
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  cookmeister

I think just about ANY manager will do. Team pissbitch will always be able to find some “in game blah blah gulp” to complain about, but i watch several other teams. Nevin wasn’t great, but he was far from bad. Next guy will probably be similar.

What I hope for is that we start getting some magic goop going between FO, manager, coaches and farm guys. I’ve read all the articles that detail the Angels scouting and development and coaching etc etc. All I got from it is that we’re not the best or the worst as far as money spent…. just like the Diamonbacks, Phillies, Astros etc etc.

Sure, I’d like to invest more in that area. But another say 10M in that department doesn’t make mediocre into good. Time can though. PTP’s had some time. He has middling resources, but he has resources. He has some more time. He needs to get the baseball ops and coaching infrastructure to be reliable and effective. I don’t care if that happens with ultimate redassed sentimental douche pick Erstad or with the bones of Casey Stengel if it actually happens. Who ever is manager, it’s gonna take about 20 guys working well together to get what we really want. I think, given some of what I’ve seen, he has some of those guys now. We need more. Then we’ll start wondering how players we never thought would be any good are helping the team…. instead of wondering why The Big A Hole is where careers and prospects go to wither.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
6 months ago

also any players will do as long as they perform well

FungoAle
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  cookmeister

Yeah, not Washington. That would be a fail. Does not really matter though. A sub 500 record is etched in stone even if the great Greg Counsell was managing.

Wonder, what did we ever learn with Salmon and Finley lurking in the dugout the last month of the season?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
6 months ago

last year we made a big splash signing Tyler Anderson quickly. I think Perry will take it slower this off-season. That means a lot of ho-hum every day which is not very exciting.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

So that was to entice Tyler to sign with us and not accept the Doyers Qualifying offer ) A horrible mistake on so many levels) This years QO recipients are :

Do you really. think any of those players are going to be enticed to sign here before next Tuesday’s acceptance deadline?

FungoAle
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Thanks for breaking this out. Please forward to Minasian. The “PROHIBITED LIST” except for Ohtani. Gray and Chapman…lol. They are not game changers but neither was Anderson or Thor.

2002heaven
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I could see us signing Josh Hader…….LOL!!!!
Another closer who used to be a silver bullet before 2020.
Iglesias, Estevez, Hader……..hell why not sometimes we’re so predictable!

Last edited 6 months ago by 2002heaven
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

I saw Bellinger is supposed to get more than 200M. I laughed and thought of Jayson Heyward.

Remember how many people were pissed cheap Arte didn’t sign him? I do.

2002heaven
Super Member
6 months ago

No, I was thinking about Marcus Semien, Nick Castellanos, ZacK Wheeler, and Kevin Gausman, not Matt Harvey, Thor Syndergaard, Justin Upton, and Zack Cozart 😥  😠 

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

Carl Crawford Anyone?

2002heaven
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Nola and Snell to the Yankees and Dodgers.
If they reject their QO’s

Last edited 6 months ago by 2002heaven
matthiasstephan
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

That seems risky on Chapman. Is he worth 20M?

FungoAle
Super Member
6 months ago

Defense is good but holes elsewhere in his game. Imagine giving up a compensation pick to sign him?

FungoAle
Super Member
6 months ago

He’s been fast in each of his off-seasons. That is his M.O.

clover_black
Super Member
6 months ago

Won’t be surprised if it’s announced out of nowhere that arte has sold.

Twebur
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

Or he’s never leaving….. And is in the process of creating space, on the cheap, by burning it to the ground, for our eventual new stadium deal. Don’t ever forget, he’s evil.

Flames burn historic Tustin hangar

https://youtu.be/hGsi7QQ6DkQ?si=vlhiayqlJhRFLEgn

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

There goes our dream of bringing back dirigible mass transit

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

This new “Bullet Blimp” will transport people from Orange County to Manteca CA daily and will change the way people think about transportation and travel!!!

Twebur
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Non-Stop of course…All this for only 3 easy payments of $30 Billion, $50 Billion, $70 Billion, $90 Billion, $100 Billion, $130 Billion……

Grand Opening 2064!

Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

“Jerry Brown’s crazy blimps to nowhere” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

steelgolf
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

*Destination subject to change during Santa Ana winds.

h27kim
Trusted Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Oh, the humanity….

red floyd
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

Looks like the hangar is not having a GoodYear

Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Drove by it on the way to work. Kinda sad…..

PedroCerrano
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Many years ago wasn’t that site on the radar as a possible stadium site?

My CLUE answer: Arte in the hangar with a pack of matches and a can of gas.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

Well, that would be the best business decision Arte has made in a long while.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Twebur

This…. this was The Evil. Shohei’s mom knows all about it. Ol’ CheapnEvil is blind unless the room is lit with the fire of suffering….

He’s probably hanging around the fire site right now stuffing drugs into you baseball men and severing tendons.

smithy610
Super Member
6 months ago

This is one coach I hope they keep though. The duo of Wallach and Thaiss held up for most of the year despite not having enough experience, and for once, catching was not the black hole of the team:

Jeff Fletcher

JeffFletcherOCR

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Another Angels coach to the White Sox?

Butera was actually the catching coach last year after being a bullpen catcher a couple years earlier.

Last edited 6 months ago by smithy610
YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
6 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

Too bad neither could throw out a runner.

smithy610
Super Member
6 months ago

Thames is out. Might as well. I wasn’t fan of the “hit HRs everytime you’re up to bat” approach

Robert Murray

ByRobertMurray

42m

The Chicago White Sox are hiring Marcus Thames as hitting coach, according to sources familiar with the situation.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

I was more upset with the “always swing at the first pitch because that’s statistically the best pitch you’re going to get in the at bat approach”

One size does not fit all.

Last edited 6 months ago by Cowboy26
Twebur
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yeah the one size fits all is not the way to go…..unless it’s good “one, and taught by someone who is great at teaching it.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Nowadays one size fits all doesn’t fit all of me…..

JackFrost
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

Agree.

With the piss poor performance in RISP situations, and especially how poorly we did getting guys in from 3rd with less than two outs he has to go.

This team needs to make execution and playing good, fundamental baseball a highest priority in Spring Training and into the season. This is why teams like the Rays who had a comparable talent level to our team in 2023 (or even less really !) can win 99 games and make the playoffs easily … It is all about making the right baseball play. We need to start doing that, and a hitting coach who teaches how to hit with 2 strikes would be a very important part of that ….

Twebur
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  smithy610

White Sox’s……destination for your tired, your poor,
your huddled masses yearning to breathe free……from the Angels dysfunction that make coaches suck…..Hassel’the’mon is next, head east, go to the Windy City.

Drew-S
Member
6 months ago

The Marlins are smart, getting the Rays ex GM. Beats the heck out of Perry. I know he works For Arte. But I lost all respect for him with that chaos around trading for the world to get a team into the playoffs that wasn’t gonna make it anyway, losing the possibility of getting at least a few good prospects for the wreck that is their system, and then trying to recoup by putting everyone on waivers, which obviously didn’t work.

Fansince1971
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Drew-S

I’m not sure I have fully processed just how bad and embarrassing that whole fiasco was. An absolute shit show.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago
Reply to  Drew-S

Are they? The Marlins make the playoffs for the first time in years ( 2020 exhibition season doesn’t count) despite an anemic payroll and then for no reason alienate the GM that built the team and got them there for another GM with a fancy title that I don’t think has ever won a playoff game.

Last edited 6 months ago by Cowboy26
halofansince1978
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’m expecting a law suit from Ng and the Marlin’s deserve it…really shitty move.

clover_black
Super Member
6 months ago

Is that how lawsuits work?

halofansince1978
Super Member
6 months ago
Reply to  clover_black

In todays world…yes.

Cowboy26
Legend
6 months ago

I doubt she’ll actually file a suit though. She loves the game too much so probably doesn’t want the distraction and stigmatism complicating future employment .

I suspect she’ll get a consulting gig with the Doyers ( so she can again be one of their 5 GMs ) or another team until ManFraud publicly laments again about the dearth of minority and women executives in the Teams’ front offices .

but after the success the Marlins had this year in a really tough division she wont be out of GM job very long.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yeah. Ng will be fine. There probably isn’t a person on earth the MLB is more scared of NOT having employed.