FWIW (I hate to be that guy, but I’m going to be). I’ve heard some behind the scenes stuff on Wash that are not too good. Source said he knows baseball and a good teacher, but is not great in the clubhouse and talks behind players backs.

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Cowboy26

24 days ago

Reply to cookmeister

And He would use up his entire decade f word allocation in just one pregame speech

https://vimeo.com/31675320

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

24 days ago

Reply to cookmeister

I think just about ANY manager will do. Team pissbitch will always be able to find some “in game blah blah gulp” to complain about, but i watch several other teams. Nevin wasn’t great, but he was far from bad. Next guy will probably be similar.

What I hope for is that we start getting some magic goop going between FO, manager, coaches and farm guys. I’ve read all the articles that detail the Angels scouting and development and coaching etc etc. All I got from it is that we’re not the best or the worst as far as money spent…. just like the Diamonbacks, Phillies, Astros etc etc.

Sure, I’d like to invest more in that area. But another say 10M in that department doesn’t make mediocre into good. Time can though. PTP’s had some time. He has middling resources, but he has resources. He has some more time. He needs to get the baseball ops and coaching infrastructure to be reliable and effective. I don’t care if that happens with ultimate redassed sentimental douche pick Erstad or with the bones of Casey Stengel if it actually happens. Who ever is manager, it’s gonna take about 20 guys working well together to get what we really want. I think, given some of what I’ve seen, he has some of those guys now. We need more. Then we’ll start wondering how players we never thought would be any good are helping the team…. instead of wondering why The Big A Hole is where careers and prospects go to wither.

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Eric_in_Portland

24 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

also any players will do as long as they perform well

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FungoAle

24 days ago

Reply to cookmeister

Yeah, not Washington. That would be a fail. Does not really matter though. A sub 500 record is etched in stone even if the great Greg Counsell was managing.

Wonder, what did we ever learn with Salmon and Finley lurking in the dugout the last month of the season?

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Eric_in_Portland

24 days ago

last year we made a big splash signing Tyler Anderson quickly. I think Perry will take it slower this off-season. That means a lot of ho-hum every day which is not very exciting.

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Cowboy26

24 days ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

So that was to entice Tyler to sign with us and not accept the Doyers Qualifying offer ) A horrible mistake on so many levels) This years QO recipients are :

Shohei Ohtani (Angels)
Cody Bellinger (Cubs)
Matt Chapman (Blue Jays)
Sonny Gray (Twins)
Josh Hader (Padres)
Aaron Nola (Phillies)
Blake Snell (Padres)

Do you really. think any of those players are going to be enticed to sign here before next Tuesday’s acceptance deadline?

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FungoAle

24 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Thanks for breaking this out. Please forward to Minasian. The “PROHIBITED LIST” except for Ohtani. Gray and Chapman…lol. They are not game changers but neither was Anderson or Thor.

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2002heaven

24 days ago

Reply to FungoAle

I could see us signing Josh Hader…….LOL!!!!
Another closer who used to be a silver bullet before 2020.
Iglesias, Estevez, Hader……..hell why not sometimes we’re so predictable!

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

24 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

I saw Bellinger is supposed to get more than 200M. I laughed and thought of Jayson Heyward.

Remember how many people were pissed cheap Arte didn’t sign him? I do.

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2002heaven

24 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

No, I was thinking about Marcus Semien, Nick Castellanos, ZacK Wheeler, and Kevin Gausman, not Matt Harvey, Thor Syndergaard, Justin Upton, and Zack Cozart 😥 😠

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Cowboy26

24 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Carl Crawford Anyone?

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2002heaven

24 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Nola and Snell to the Yankees and Dodgers.
If they reject their QO’s

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matthiasstephan

24 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

That seems risky on Chapman. Is he worth 20M?

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FungoAle

24 days ago

Reply to matthiasstephan

Defense is good but holes elsewhere in his game. Imagine giving up a compensation pick to sign him?

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FungoAle

24 days ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

He’s been fast in each of his off-seasons. That is his M.O.

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clover_black

24 days ago

Won’t be surprised if it’s announced out of nowhere that arte has sold.

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Twebur

24 days ago

Reply to clover_black

Or he’s never leaving….. And is in the process of creating space, on the cheap, by burning it to the ground, for our eventual new stadium deal. Don’t ever forget, he’s evil.

Flames burn historic Tustin hangar

https://youtu.be/hGsi7QQ6DkQ?si=vlhiayqlJhRFLEgn

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Cowboy26

24 days ago

Reply to Twebur

There goes our dream of bringing back dirigible mass transit

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steelgolf

24 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

This new “Bullet Blimp” will transport people from Orange County to Manteca CA daily and will change the way people think about transportation and travel!!!

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Twebur

24 days ago

Reply to steelgolf

Non-Stop of course…All this for only 3 easy payments of ~~$30 Billion,~~ ~~$50 Billion, $70 Billion, $90 Billion, $100 Billion~~, $130 Billion……

Grand Opening 2064!

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Angelz4ever

24 days ago

Reply to Twebur

“Jerry Brown’s crazy blimps to nowhere” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

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steelgolf

24 days ago

Reply to Twebur

*Destination subject to change during Santa Ana winds.

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h27kim

24 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Oh, the humanity….

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red floyd

24 days ago

Reply to h27kim

Looks like the hangar is not having a GoodYear

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Angelz4ever

24 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Drove by it on the way to work. Kinda sad…..

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PedroCerrano

24 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Many years ago wasn’t that site on the radar as a possible stadium site?

My CLUE answer: Arte in the hangar with a pack of matches and a can of gas.

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Angelz4ever

24 days ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

Well, that would be the best business decision Arte has made in a long while.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

24 days ago

Reply to Twebur

This…. this was The Evil. Shohei’s mom knows all about it. Ol’ CheapnEvil is blind unless the room is lit with the fire of suffering….

He’s probably hanging around the fire site right now stuffing drugs into you baseball men and severing tendons.

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smithy610

24 days ago

This is one coach I hope they keep though. The duo of Wallach and Thaiss held up for most of the year despite not having enough experience, and for once, catching was not the black hole of the team:

Jeff Fletcher
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Another Angels coach to the White Sox?
Butera was actually the catching coach last year after being a bullpen catcher a couple years earlier.

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YOUknowulovetheIE

24 days ago

Reply to smithy610

Too bad neither could throw out a runner.

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smithy610

24 days ago

Thames is out. Might as well. I wasn’t fan of the “hit HRs everytime you’re up to bat” approach

Robert Murray
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The Chicago White Sox are hiring Marcus Thames as hitting coach, according to sources familiar with the situation.

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Cowboy26

24 days ago

Reply to smithy610

I was more upset with the “always swing at the first pitch because that’s statistically the best pitch you’re going to get in the at bat approach”

One size does not fit all.

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Twebur

24 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Yeah the one size fits all is not the way to go…..unless it’s good “one”, and taught by someone who is great at teaching it.

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Angelz4ever

24 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Nowadays one size fits all doesn’t fit all of me…..

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JackFrost

24 days ago

Reply to smithy610

Agree.

With the piss poor performance in RISP situations, and especially how poorly we did getting guys in from 3rd with less than two outs he has to go.

This team needs to make execution and playing good, fundamental baseball a highest priority in Spring Training and into the season. This is why teams like the Rays who had a comparable talent level to our team in 2023 (or even less really !) can win 99 games and make the playoffs easily … It is all about making the right baseball play. We need to start doing that, and a hitting coach who teaches how to hit with 2 strikes would be a very important part of that ….

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Twebur

24 days ago

Reply to smithy610

White Sox’s……destination for your tired, your poor,
your huddled masses yearning to breathe free……from the Angels dysfunction that make coaches suck…..Hassel’the’mon is next, head east, go to the Windy City.

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Drew-S

24 days ago

The Marlins are smart, getting the Rays ex GM. Beats the heck out of Perry. I know he works For Arte. But I lost all respect for him with that chaos around trading for the world to get a team into the playoffs that wasn’t gonna make it anyway, losing the possibility of getting at least a few good prospects for the wreck that is their system, and then trying to recoup by putting everyone on waivers, which obviously didn’t work.

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Fansince1971

24 days ago

Reply to Drew-S

I’m not sure I have fully processed just how bad and embarrassing that whole fiasco was. An absolute shit show.

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Cowboy26

24 days ago

Reply to Drew-S

Are they? The Marlins make the playoffs for the first time in years ( 2020 exhibition season doesn’t count) despite an anemic payroll and then for no reason alienate the GM that built the team and got them there for another GM with a fancy title that I don’t think has ever won a playoff game.

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halofansince1978

24 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

I’m expecting a law suit from Ng and the Marlin’s deserve it…really shitty move.

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clover_black

24 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

Is that how lawsuits work?

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halofansince1978

24 days ago

Reply to clover_black

In todays world…yes.

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Cowboy26

24 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

I doubt she’ll actually file a suit though. She loves the game too much so probably doesn’t want the distraction and stigmatism complicating future employment .

I suspect she’ll get a consulting gig with the Doyers ( so she can again be one of their 5 GMs ) or another team until ManFraud publicly laments again about the dearth of minority and women executives in the Teams’ front offices .

but after the success the Marlins had this year in a really tough division she wont be out of GM job very long.