Neither Tyler Anderson nor Anthony Rendon will be playing for the rest of the season. Also done for the year is Mike Trout, who went on the 60 day IL yesterday. Carson Fulmer was activated in his place. Trout keeps busy, though.
The Red Sox just designated Kyle Barraclough for assignment. Meanwhile, the Braves placed Charlie Morton on the injured list with right finger inflammation.
So much for Aaron Judge winning MVP this year. I suppose the “Yeah, but they didn’t win” bias should cancel out the “But, but, but, he’s a Yankee” bias and make people actually look at Shohei’s vastly superior numbers. Oh man! It looks like Heyman just relegated the Athletics. “Start Spreadin’ The News!” If I can make it here, I can make it anywhere. LOL!
While we are on the topic of embarrassing weekends, Houston got swept by the Royals.
Ken Griffey Jr. works as a sideline photographer. He should take a picture of Randy Johnson.
Carlos Santana actually got that 300th home run.
Sean Doolittle announced his retirement.
The Tigers just hired a new general manager from the NHL. That’s the icing on the cake. He should just be able to skate by. (I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitresses.)
Photo credit: Rex Fregosi
Rumor saying Pads want to reduce payroll to $200MM….
Perhaps an opportunity? (If our Front Office does things right)
The Angels could take on bad contracts from the Pads in order to get good young prospects/talent. We have a lot coming off the books, and it isn’t like there is anything to spend on in FA anyway this winter….
I want Soto 🙂
Yeah, possibility. Angels are not ready to compete, taking on big salary seems constrained with Rendon and Trout but the farm needs rebuilt. They do have some nice prospects and they do draft well. Maybe we snag their scouting department and coaching staff.
…..and their ownership.
He’s 24 is he not? In 3 years Redone goes off the books.
I found $1 tickets to this series on StubHub and plenty of them.
Planning on going to the game tomorrow just to have one last lap around the Big A for the year. It is always a little bittersweet but good for closure.
If anyone can make it, hit me up.
Don’t be suckered in by Stubhub.
I had to go all the way to adding address, email address, etc before finally finding the fees.
$1 plus $5 fees for one ticket. Total price = $6. The “show with estimated fees” option at Stubhub doesn’t give you this information – it continually said “$1” even with the show fees option selected.
Go to Tickpick. I bought a nose-bleeder for $2 (out the door) and I’m gonna walk to the stadium tonight. They never have hidden fees on their site.
Ok, thanks. I did the “show with fees” thing and still got the $1.
Did you enter Cc data and complete the order? When I got to the end it suddenly added $5 to the order
a couple hours ago they had $6 tickets, second row bottom level (by the ball boy)
Thats crazy good. If I lived within 10-miles of the park, I’d go for sure. That is crazy cheap.
Honestly, why would anyone even sell them for $1? Donate them to a kids club or underprivileged situation and let a bunch of folks go for free.
That’s considered abuse of the underprivileged
Big series for the tank
We are 1 game worse than the Mets who finish with the Marlins and Phillies at home, although both are in playoff contention.
If We get swept by Texas, pretty good shot at a lottery pick
Mets and Cardinals are in full tank mode trying to move up/down to a better draft position. The Angels Organization needs to commit to losing these last 6 since it is the best thing for the future. How does a team commit to losing – sit all the veterans and play only young players. Give unproven starters their first opportunity. They get experience and increase the chances of losing which is the best thing for the Org right now.
If the Mets lose the 6th slot, they will drop to 10 slots to no earlier than the 17th. Lots of incentive to tank, tank hard.
I don’t get it. That’s too math-y for me
MLB penalizes the super CBT repeat violator teams by dropping their draft position down 10 spots in the amateur draft. Except if you are extra sucky ( 1thru 6) then you get that draft lottery spot.
I hadn’t been paying attention to that.
So right now, with the Mets at #7, they have a huge incentive then to get to #6? Wow, what an incentive to purposely throw games. So much for the purpose of having that lottery thing.
So if we tank harder and don’t let them pass us, that blocks the Mets (with the $400MM payroll) from gaming the system.
Kind of a big incentive to hit the 6th spot. The Phillies would have clinched WC #1 slot, maybe they throw Angel-like quality on the field and let up on the Mets.
That’s a stupid system. If you reduce a team’s ability to draft talent, you force them to rely on free agency, thereby encouraging them to engage in the very activity you are trying to punish.
I’ve heard this before from other MIT grads.
Instead of making these same old general tanking plan comments, why dont you be more specific on who should be playing that is sitting on the bench?
The Angels dont have anymore youngsters to play that aren’t already getting game action. and for reasons I have already discussed a couple of times before Schanuel should not be playing in most of the remaining games.
Just grab a bunch of AA and A guys and put them on the roster. Hell, use the guy who cleans the dugout and fetches sunflower seeds. There have got to be folks in the minors that can fill out the roster.
We can go deeper, bring Diaz back up to start. There is someone we can put on the IL and bring up another overmatched scrubone. Have an open competition for the bench. If you play well, you sit..and if in fact we challenge other teams and attempt to win, “then we go into Operation Shutdown.”
-Derek Bell
The 40 man roster is full Einstein. You cant just grab trash and bring them up to the majors and then DFA them later so that anyone can pick them up.
Dude this is a lottery. They created the new system it in the first place so teams wouldn’t do this shit.You want to play the youngsters that might be able to help us in the future? great. We are. And being around veterans that actually still care about winning is also a good thing. But your obsession with losing for a modicum of draft position improvement is just lame.
But I know. Maybe we should just not show up the next six games and forfeit them all. Would that make you happy?
Yes.
That said, you fell into the chasm of sar.
I would love for them to go 0-6 and put themselves in the best draft position possible, but whatever happens, happens
well done ’71. You got me good.
I didnt know you had that in you.I am very impressed. I think our best bet is to let next years play but
let winners like Jimmy Herget, Fulmer, Wantz, Barria & Marte (and even Suarez) close out every game this week
We are on the same page
Turn the page
You’ve been pointing out the Schanuel AB total for over a week.
We should be shocked if they let him go over that, right?
Nothing shocks me anymore with this team or this site.
There’s more than enough batting practice pitchers on the active roster. All that needs to happen is put Barria, Marte, Daniel, Fulmer, Rosenberg, or Sandoval on the mound and tell them they are there for 150 pitches or 9 innings – which ever comes first. Whatever happens, happens.
But what will Shohei think if we tank these last six games? (Squeezes thighs together as tight as he can)
Who is this “Shohei” you refer to?
Pulled from the redundant files. It just never stops blowing my mind at the amount of injury days the Angels have totaled up over all and to starters, both pitching and offensively. It is just staggeringly.
Yet nobody seems to have an answer…..how long can you write it off to bad luck?
There is a reason.
I don’t think we can attribute it all to some systematic failure either, as much as people want to have Arte to blame.
Urshela breaking his pelvis? I’m sorry, but the money that Arte may not have spent on conditioning coaches probably didn’t contribute to that.
Ward getting hit in the face? I’m sorry, but probably not Arte’s cheapness.
I agree re the major injuries like Urshela. However, the sheer number of oblique injuries and muscle pulls speaks to poor strength and conditioning.
Every team has injuries and many have critical ones. The Rays have lost two-plus rotations of quality arms to TJ in the last couple years. But the good teams (like the Rays and Dodgers for example) have deep farm systems and have developed players who can step up and fill in.
That is my main complaint – that the Halos do such a poor job of scouting and player development. That issue is something you can very much put on Arte who has cut the budget in these areas and, as a result, the Angels have one of the worst farms in baseball.
It is not so much the injuries as the lack of Organizational depth caused by a focus on signing free-agent marketing-type players rather than building a solid foundation of well developed young talent who is ready to step and fill in at any time.
The fact that the 3 young talented players we are watching were either (1) developed by college coaches or (2) developed in another Org is telling.
I pretty much agree with what you said.
I just don’t agree when people make broad statements that Arte’s cheapness is directly to blame for the massive amount of injuries that torpedoed our season this year.
I do agree that he has cut short the budget in places that do hurt us, including strength and conditioning… which could possibly lead to more overall injuries each year.
This year’s injuries? How many years do we need to go back? I’ll stand by the broad statement that bad organizations in all sports almost always have injury issues….its one of the components to being bad. It’s a compounding problem, and it starts from the top. And yes, lack of depth is part of that, see the owner. Poorly run organizations usually have common problems. The fine line between a being a continuous contender and a continuous bottom feeder are in the details. Sounds like it’s all clichéd bullshit, but it’s not. Just because it’s not visible doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Maybe another year of this shit will convince those that just think it’s bad JuJu for a few seasons. I’m laying heavey money that one day, when he’s gone, the truth of how poorly the Angels have been run will shock some people……not me.
Agreed. There are a ton of reasons for injuries and a lot are systemic.
Cheaping out on the training staff and rehab equipment is obvious. Remember, this is the team that wanted to rent an anti gravity treadmill for their $240 million first baseman rather than spend $70 grand to buy one.
Recovery has become such a huge thing in sports. Massage, cryo, assisted stretching. That needs a budget.
Plus, old guys get hurt more often. When you build your team around free agents rather than home grown talent, you have more old guys.
They also took obvious risks on guys with injury histories.
You don’t buy a American used car with 300K miles if you don’t have to.
Did Rendon have a sketchy injury history before he came here?
I honestly don’t know, I didn’t follow the Nats, and I’m 2GA to look it up.
Because Rendon seems to be poster-boy #1 around here for “guys we shouldn’t have signed because look how much they are injured now.”
Hambone says hello.
The ratio of Rendon complaints to Hambone complaints on this site nowadays is 50:1 if I were to guess.
In fact, at any time now someone will do today’s version of a post stating the # of games Rendon played, the amount of salary he has left, and what an outrageous thing that is.
Rendon had one major injury a couple years before we signed him. That’s it.
Then…. the JuJu set in.
So we’re saying that the Angels signed Rendon, with one major injury years before, and he was just off a huge season winning a WS, and he was one of the best 3B in baseball, and we had no one at 3B, and hadn’t had a good 3B for years, and had no depth at 3B in the minors…. and we signed this guy?
Wow, the Angels were sure dumb for making that signing.
He said sarcastically.
But we still should have known better.
No, not at all. Rendon got his ABs in year after year.
And who were these injury risks you speak of?
Yes, that broad statement is valid.
That’s a different broad statement than what I was referring too.
I want to know which of the Illuminati owners of the Doyers is causing them to constantly beat on women…
Blame it on the 5G zombie apocalypse.
The fact is according to former KNBC sports anchor Fred Roggin who still works at AM 570 (the Dodger’s flagship station) he reported that Arte did in fact cut infrastructure baseball operations funding during the 2010’s. So yes scouting, player development, coaching of player mechanics (pitching and hitting, fielding) all this was hollowed out during the Dark Ages (2010’s) even with the better funding from the 2011 Fox Sports West cable TV deal. This was after last year when Arte said the team was for sale. BTW throwing out another prediction about Ohtani. David Vassey was quoted as saying back in the spring on Petros & Money that the Dodger’s were thinking seriously about backing up the truck for Ohtani, now I don’t think after his injuries that they’re gonna do it however I think now there’s a good chance he’ll end up in NY with the Mets (hi Eppler!) or in black & white pinstripes. So if that happens it least he’ll be 3K miles away instead of 30 miles away!
It’s pretty clear what the state of things were in say 2019. But I’m curious how they are now. Do we still have no scouts? No development guys? In 2021 we brought the Braves strength and conditioning guy over. That was not a “budget” move, but did we then just give him a tube of icy hot and call it a day?
I would still like someone out there to show me exactly how short the medical/conditioning budget is compared to average.
I’d also like to know if we currently have far fewer scouts than most teams or not.
CtPG Guy seems to always be comparing the Angels to the team he should just go and root for… the Doyers. I am curious how bad off we really are cause I have no idea.
And no, CtPG guy. Years old quotes from CJ Wilson’s bitch ass don’t tellme anything.
Sears vs Amazon and Walmart
I’m not quite sold in the conditioning angle. For pulled hammy’s obliques, maybe but not for arm injuries.
I’d like to see the data as well. But I do agree, Arte just sucks cuz he has unfinished business.
Extremely anecdotal and not really an answer to your question but I interned there a decade ago and throughout the front office across multiple departments, super tight budgets and low pay/cost cutting was just the accepted reality of the organization. They would fire front office staffers making $60K at the end of every season and just give their jobs to someone else without a raise.
Exclusive to the Angels? Of course not. But I think there has been a culture of cost-savings throughout the franchise that would logically extend to the minor leagues, scouting, coaching etc. that hurt them in some ways that produce better homegrown talent. CJ Wilson’s comment wasn’t a smoking gun but it tracked with what was happening elsewhere in non-baseball departments so it rang true.
I don’t think it’s the sole reason the team is in a funk. But maybe a bunch of small “pebbles” eventually added up to a boulder of a problem.
There is also the effect of a winning organization to overcome key injuries. Dodgers and the Rays do it well, they just know how to win. Buehler, May and Urias…Dodgers still keep rolling. Their replacements would suck on the the Angels.
Rays don’t have any big name stars
I didn’t even know who their SS was since Yander Franco got in trouble with the league. The only guy I know of on that team is their LF Randy Arozarena. Would you even know who these guys were if they were standing in line in front of you at Walmart, Costco or Home Depot?
Not being hostile.
I’m of the opinion that we should plunder and poach the top colleges in NCAA baseball for coaching, scouting, and player development talent, including WOMEN IF THERE ARE ANY. That means the SEC top shelf level programs like LSU, Vanderbilt, Florida, Mississippi St, and locally UCLA and U of Texas Longhorns at Austin (Perry’s alma mater BTW).
Particularly Spanish speaking ones as well.
Why the heck not? If it’s an under utilized source of possibly good brain power and we suck why not give it a try?
Can she pitch?
33% baseball gods hate us
33% Evil Art
33% trAdition
Sure….all these things will be back in 2024.
I though Evil Arte was the source of trAdition?
Circle of Arte…..
TrAdition has been around for a long time before Arte.
Yep, another owner would fix it all
“Orange County is wonderful. But Orange County is a medium market and always will be, unless you get a [network] affiliate down there, which will never happen because they couldn’t compete against an L.A. affiliate.”
-Jackie Autry
Good enough location to support a a top-10 payroll every year, which is the hard part, the enormous part of the business overhead.
And maybe doing that doesn’t leave enough for the other necessities needed to be successful. It’s a plan, that might work sometimes, through all your chips in on a high payroll and see if it works. Some might say I’ll take that.
Or is it he doesn’t think the other parts, scouting, medical/training, player development, International development, f’ing POBO, front office, baseball facilities are necessary?
Funny how those Orange and LA county lines were crossed back in the good days between 2002-2009. Small market teams all over the country “Jackie” have winning franchises, have winning cultures, in all professional sports. It’s hard and you can’t be a clueless, arrogant stupid ass and win consistently.
Eh. Lack of funds isn’t a problem. The Twins, Indiguards, Rays etc etc show that. The Angels can more than get by in their market…. they just can’t compete with 5 or 6 other bigger markets for the hippest free agents.
They also shouldn’t compete with 5 or 6 other bigger markets for the hippest free agents.
So you’re saying Taylor Swift wouldn’t date someone on the Angels? Let’s say Mike Moustakas was a free agent in the dating world, she wouldn’t go for him because our market ain’t hip enough? Thats crazy talk. The mean gritty streets of Anaheim find that offensive.
And 1% curse
I wondered about that 1%.
Broken leg…. broken hand bone…. all Arte all the time for sure….
Genetics.
Bad fan JuJu. So real.
Your Daddy Toots?
Reminds me of this tweet and follow up tweet I saw yesterday….
https://x.com/diego1927angels/status/1705990648355254510?s=20
https://x.com/diego1927angels/status/1705994474718216340?s=20
Fantasy Data says Jon Gray for the Strangers tonight.
https://fantasydata.com/mlb/jon-gray-fantasy/10002058
Even if we get swept it would take a lot of help for TX to clinch the division.
How so? TX is currently 2.5 games ahead of Houston and 3 games ahead of Seattle. If they sweep us, they only need 2 more wins to clinch vs the Astros (assuming the Astros sweep Seattle). And since their last 4 is against Seattle, they only need 1 win against Seattle to clinch vs them (again, assuming Seattle sweeps Astros).
Either way, a sweep of the Angels puts their fate is in their own hands. If they don’t sweep the Angels, all they really need is for the Astros/Mariners to split the series.
I’m talking about while they’re here at the Big A.
We won’t watch them celebrate on on our field!!
Oh, now I get it. And yes, you are correct.
The Rangers win the tiebreak against the Mariners but lose against the Astros, so for them to clinch in Anaheim they have to sweep the Angels and the Mainers have to win exactly 2 of 3 vs the Astros.
Thx…I should have been more explanatory.
It is awful when somebody else celebrates.
The Angels scored 10 runs against the Twins this weekend. Here’s who produced what portion:
1.75 Walsh
1.75 O’Hoppe
1.25 Adell
1.25 Neto
1.25 Grichuk
1.25 Drury
0.75 Stefanic
0.50 Fletcher
0.25 Schanuel
Six home runs in this series. Even the second and third stringers on this team can mash. Walsh and O’Hoppe tied for the team lead in Actual Runs Produced. This was the second time for Walsh being the team leader and the third time for O’Hoppe. I think those of us saying Walsh’s days as a productive Major League player are over are being a little hasty.
Here is the updated Actual Runs Allowed per Batters Faced for our Halo Hurlers:
0.05 Joyce (40)
0.09 Bachman (77)
0.09 Daniel (34)
0.10 Silseth (205)
0.10 Soriano (181)
0.11 Canning (511)
0.11 Estevez (275)
0.12 Sandoval (637)
0.12 Detmers (615)
0.13 Anderson (629)
0.13 Wantz (149)
0.15 Loup (231)
0.15 Herget (116)
0.17 Barria (352)
0.17 Suarez (144)
0.17 Fullmer (18)
0.18 Rosenberg (129)
0.18 Reyes (49)
0.18 Mederos (17)
0.19 Ingram (25)
0.25 Marte (43)
0.26 Diaz (42)
Is Davis Daniel someone to be a little excited about? I know his name is all backwards and he was not very good as a college pitcher, but he has been a good minor leaguer. He has pitched 50 games as a starter and one in relief in the MiLB, and over those 51 games he has a terrific 1.19 WHIP with a fantastic 10.2 K/9.
And in his small sample size during his brief time with the Angels, he has put up a nice ARA/BF.
Whatever works. The names at the top of the pitching list should be given ample chances. The ones at the bottom? Likely get tossed overboard.
Houston went through some OOGA-BOOGA playing KC Royals….Angels got back on track yesterday…..Say it ain’t so Trouty, sat you’ll play again soon in ’23…..Is Eppler still employed in NY? 😂 …..Nevin still working? Surprising everyone with this one, but its a firm “Yesw” there…..You can avoid the Christmas rush finding a new GM before October 1st……We do need help from StL, NYM, Washington Nats and we may get it going down the stretch now.
Going to the Air-Show in Huntington at the end of the week?
phil
Do we really want another first time GM? Unless its Theo or someone else with a successful track record ( No thank You, Chaim Bloom or POS Luhnow ) don’t waste our time with another start-from-scratch-new-philosophy-rebuild.
We’d be better off hoping the Platypus finally figures it out. The whole thing. not just identifying the next small college diamond in the rough draft able ballplayer that’s close to MLB ready.
Not saying we need a new GM, only referring to those teams that do. Besides, Arte will sick with his low cost version.
Actually, I’m good with just letting Perry manage and build with the kids next season. Let the team build organically. Sign mercenaries on a 1-2 year contract to fill around the likes of Neto, O’Hoppe, Schanty Singles, Adell, Ward and Moniak. If we put Perry in “must-win-now” scenario, he is not at his best.
Further compounding things, Angels are going to have a hard time competing with the likes of the Rangers, Mariners and Stro’s. Rangers are built to stick around the top for a while. Great farm.