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LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: STILL Ohtani-less

September 13, 2023

John Henry Weitzel

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Good morning Angels fans, only a few more games left this season. Have some links as we wind down.

Angels News

Shohei Ohtani hasn’t played for 9 straight games. Is he done for the season or not?! COME ON!

Oh yeah and the Angels played a game. They lost. Sadage.

Want a paper Kabuto?

Jose Suarez is back! Remember when he went down way back all those months ago?

Around Baseball

Matt Olson is advocating for the Autism community. Great cause. Makes him hitting the most Home Runs this season a bit easier to deal with.

Rich Hill is available on waivers. Wow, he is still pitching…

The most clutch MLB players since 2018. Of course there are 3 Trashos on it…

Alek Manoah did not take his demotion well and has been MIA since. No, literally, as he never reported to AAA. Very awkward and a whiny baby.

The mom from Little Big League now has a son in the real Big Leagues. Cubs must feel very lucky right now.

John Means is back! First start since April 2022!

Nick Castellanos hasn’t made an error yet this year. Last qualified player to do so.

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes.

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2GA2Join

14 days ago

I almost burst out laughing when I just now went to the Angels website and the front story says “Sandoval runs into trouble” next to the score 8-0.

At the end of the year, they’ll probably run the headline “Angels season doesn’t quite live up to expectations”

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GhostGuest

14 days ago

I got deep into the prison blogs about toilet wine. Trade Ohtani and trade Trout! Herr derr gerr! And there he is, the panic meister cooking up his salty spaghetti. Evil Arte Moreno and his billboard minions! I wonder if the sad I’d be without you would be less than the sad I get from being with you. Injury curses, the scaffolded depth of talent, and MF Anthony Rendon’s no ingles translation of manners for the butt hurt fans of a butt hurt franchise. Gah and dammnit, Perry! Three more weeks of this? Ah well.

what am I going to do with a soul anyways?

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halofansince1978

14 days ago

Wantz on the bump…no lineup yet.

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Cowboy26

14 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

What? Still No Ohtani?

https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1702012263467729111/photo/1

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Eric_in_Portland

14 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Just waive him already

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smithy610

14 days ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

This is just seriously the org stringing around fans to entice them to come to the stadium in the hopes of catching Ohtani one last time, but internally I think everyone knows he’s done.

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Twebur

14 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

The Dr PA is on Vacation. Waiting for recovery from his bloodletting procedure the other day. Iron level is low. Extra Bologna sandwich next few days. He’ll be fine.

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halofansince1978

14 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Thank You!!

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Claret

14 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Yes! we have no Ohtani today

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FungoAle

14 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

From 5 slot on down, hopeless at the plate

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steelgolf

14 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

Wantz is the starting pitcher? Yeeeesh.

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smithy610

14 days ago

Reply to steelgolf

I still remember the last time Wantz started a game against the M’s….

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Cowboy26

13 days ago

Reply to smithy610

It was a real hit.

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Angelz4ever

14 days ago

Good morning Halo faithful.

Let’s take another series tonight.

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Cowboy26

14 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

I dont know about you but I dont think the team can wait until tonight to take the series.

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Angelz4ever

13 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Tonight…today…same difference

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CAoldskoll

14 days ago

Padres are just as bad as Angels this year, even spending way more money. Both teams need a shakeup. Trade Trout, Rendone, Rengifo, for Tatis, Bogaerts, Kim. Why not, can things get any worse next year for either club ? Bad enough the Dodgers going after Ohtani and rumors say Snell (SD best pitcher) too during FA. No wonder both fan bases despise them.

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Angelz4ever

14 days ago

Reply to CAoldskoll

Heavy sigh….

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Jeff Joiner

14 days ago

The Little Big League link is money. Great job there.

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Pineapple12

14 days ago

Reid Detmers this season has 154 strikeouts = 34th amongst all MLB starters.

If Detmers qualified with IP, his 10.1 K/9 would place him tied for 11th with Wheeler and Morton. If Ohtani qualified, he would be 5th with a 11.4 K/9.

I am so bullish on Reid Detmers reaching his ceiling yall have no idea. Future ace imho.

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Pineapple12

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Detmers improved his K/9 YoY from 8.5 to 10.1.

That’s significant.

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Twebur

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Best hope we have for an Ace. Still has a long way to go. Mentally, might his biggest obstacle.

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Cowboy26

14 days ago

Reply to Twebur

I wouldn’t give up on Silseth provided that thrown ball didnt…

“Kind of knocked his eyeballs, a little goofy, a little bit.”

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Cowboy26

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Yet his WHIP rose from 1.209 to 1.366 and his ERA went from 3.77 to 4.77. Those are also significant

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GhostGuest

14 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

ERA is a meaningless waste of consideration.

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Cowboy26

14 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

A Myopic view but how about FIP then? it Still went up significantly.

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GhostGuest

14 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

From the poop deck of my majestic schooner, with the salty brine stinging my weather-beaten face, I say unto you, ARA/BF, ARA/BF, and again, ARA/BF.

And Detmers’ ARA/BF has been averaging at the mediocre mark all year. Can he improve? It has been known to happen.

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GhostGuest

14 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

And my optics view the world just fine.

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Cowboy26

14 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

For an apparition? yeah I guess so.

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Jeff Joiner

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

He just needs some more consistency. When’s he on he’s great. And I understand guys aren’t going to be on every time. But when he’s off he’s really bad. Once he figures out how to gut out a mediocre performance when he doesn’t have his best stuff he’ll be really good.

My biggest disappointment this season is easily Sandoval. I really thought he’d have a breakout year. And it looked to be that way during the WBC.

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Twebur

14 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Pitches with a .10-cent head too many nights. Needs to find a good sports psychologist. Check that, the team needs to find a good sports psychologist.
Or hire a coaching staff that can teach what appears to be basic baseball fundamentals and knowledge. Think a lot of our pitchers are a good coach away from becoming much improved and solid.

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MarineLayer

14 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Aside from personal responsibility, the staff is failing to get his best.

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smithy610

14 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Sandoval’s temper reminds me of John Lackey, but Lackey knew to win games and pitch according to the situation, most of the time.

I understand incorporating analytics, but it seems the move is extreme to the one side. I agree with the players that there should be some balance between analytics and adjusting to game situations. It’s not a “one-size-fits-all” approach. I would think teams that are more successful in implementing analytics still incorporate actual game situations’ strategies when playing.

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2GA2Join

14 days ago

Reply to Twebur

You all realize that he’ll be acquired by the Dodgers or Braves, and then he’ll tweak his pitch mixture and change his stance a little, and win a Cy Young Award.

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AnAngelsFan

14 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

To that he has to learn how to pitch, rather than to just throw the ball with velocity and/or maximum spin. To do that, he needs an organization that teaches pitching, not just throwing.

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Pineapple12

14 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Sandoval’s breakout year was last season and this season is the natural regression.

His stuff is good, not dominant. Pair that with his tendency to lose control of his emotions and *presto* there is your mid-rotation arm.

Sandoval settles in somewhere around a #3-4 arm. In 2022, he pitched like a #2 and in 2023, a #4.

He’ll be better next season.

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toad2065

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

If you are going to use a mathematical response, I think you should be required to show your work.

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toad2065

14 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Simple fix for next year, replace Nevin with Benji! Problem solved. 😇

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HaloLew

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I’d love to see the team bring in a veteran pitcher next year who has achieved a high level of success but is in the twilight of his career. His role would be to model preparation and the mental side of pitching. In other words, a mentor to our young guys. Someone like Kershaw comes to mind.

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halofansince1978

14 days ago

Reply to HaloLew

I can’t even imagine any scenario where Kershaw wears Halo Red.

But having said that…great idea and exactly what these kids need.

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halofansince1978

14 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

Notice I didn’t use the word youngsters?

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Cowboy26

14 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

How about Yutes? https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/00e2fea6-3ccd-43e6-a5e9-b19339f06191

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halofansince1978

14 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Where’s Bluto to complain when we need him?

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Pineapple12

14 days ago

Nolan Schanuel (89 PA)
.288 BA
.416 OBP
.301 SLG
.717 OPS
100 OPS+
15.7% walk rate
13.5% strikeout rate

if the power EVER comes …

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Cowboy26

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

At least he got his slugging % back over .300

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Pineapple12

14 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

small victories add up haha. Somebody, anybody, needs to help this kid fill out his upper-body.

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DowningDude

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Was surprised that Bobby compared him to Rafael Pameiro last night. Maybe he meant strike zone command?

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Claret

14 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

Bobby is, and always has been, full of it.

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MarineLayer

14 days ago

Reply to Claret

Grich?

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Pineapple12

14 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

Maybe before Palmeiro juiced up ? Maybeeeeee lol ? Idk

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Twebur

14 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

Then Roids must be part of the solution to his lack of power.

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Cowboy26

14 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Or Viagra.

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halofansince1978

14 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Is the 4 hour rule in effect?

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FungoAle

14 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

It does not look like Schanuel drives the ball, just protecting the plate. I’m not onboard yet. Palmeiro had gap power at least.

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GhostGuest

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Believe it or not, Schanuel has hit 20 home runs this year across his collegiate and minor league games.

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Pineapple12

14 days ago

Reply to GhostGuest

Sadly, only 1 HR with a wooden bat at the MiLB and MLB level.

I am a big fan of Schanuel already, and will be an even bigger fan once he starts launching balls over the fence.

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smithy610

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

If the power ever comes, I think there should be a reasonable expectation that that OBP will come down to .350-.370s, as well as the K rate increasing

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Cowboy26

14 days ago

Reply to smithy610

So what do s his power numbers need to rise to for him to become an asset where he would generate significantly positive WAR each season?

I would assume to at least .450?

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GhostGuest

14 days ago

Reply to smithy610

If this is Schanuel, and all he does is get on base, move runners over, and keep the inning alive for the next batter, I’m all for it. Let the other players provide the power.

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FungoAle

14 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Another JB Shuck or something better?

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GhostGuest

14 days ago

The Foundation Building Materials’ keystone of the game today against the Seattle Ms is “Looking for Clues” by Robert Palmer.

The Angels are going with a bullpen game today. Get as many players into the game as possible. Going full spring training mode here. Pull the position players every three innings. Looking under all the rocks for someone who may be able to help the Angels next year. Need that strong fourth string depth. Looking for clues.

https://youtu.be/92wCPfqyVbg?si=fMkPrASA5iyPPDcs

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MarineLayer

14 days ago

Does anybody have the Moose injury update?

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Twebur

14 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Injury. Update. Angels 😀😀😀 that’s funny. Like they know what’s wrong the day after an injury. 😀😀😀

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MarineLayer

14 days ago

Reply to Twebur

I’m setting my fantasy lineup for today and he’s the only Angel left on my team, so this is actually serious.

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Twebur

14 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Lack of Planning on Your Part Does Not Constitute an Emergency on My Part

-Angels and Dr. Nick

You shouldn’t have any Angels on your fantasy roster if it’s serious.

Last edited 14 days ago by Twebur

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Brent

14 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

lol… fantasy baseball… actually serious.

Surly you can’t be serious.

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MarineLayer

14 days ago

Reply to Brent

It’s all of got left in terms of winning something related to baseball.

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Eric_in_Portland

14 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

I gave it up when I started thinking some pitcher could strike out an Angel and that would be ok or even good

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DowningDude

14 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

It’s called misplay-itis. and here’s the moose tank:

Last edited 14 days ago by DowningDude

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Twebur

14 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

From the Mean Streets of Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Canada.

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FungoAle

14 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

Couple of gaffs by Moose last night, he performed the tank well.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky

14 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

I’m sure it has something to do with an oblique injury that created a fracture of the hamate bone, which then Moose overcompensated his throwing motion and injured the UCL. While he was getting and MRI on the UCL injury, he contracted long COVID.

Last edited 14 days ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky

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Twebur

14 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

Ha! But he’s still listed day-to-day.

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Twebur

14 days ago

All M’s RBI came with 2-out…..2 outs are bad.

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halofansince1978

14 days ago

Take the series tonight…GO HALO!!!

Okay with CP SLO Woo getting win.

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halofansince1978

14 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

Make that today…1:10pm start!!

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Twebur

14 days ago

Reply to halofansince1978

The Return of Suarez?

Good for TEAM TANK, bad for our eyeballs.

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steelgolf

14 days ago

Reply to Twebur

🤮

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CAoldskoll

14 days ago

Seems like they don’t want to admit Sho is done for season, cause that would tank attendance last week for home games. They know there is a lot of interest seeing him playing for us knowing it may be his final Angel games. Especially the Japanese fans.