LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Top 50

Today is the day MLB Trade Rumors will release their list of top 50 free agents. The Fangraphs list has been out for a few days already. The Cardinals acquired minor league infielder Jose Fermin from the Guardians for cash considerations. The Rangers acquired Jake Odorizzi from the Braves in exchange for Kolby Allard. The Pirates claimed outfielder Ryan Vilade off waivers from the Rockies. For their part, the Giants claimed catcher Dom Nunez off waivers, also from the Rockies. The Phillies claimed a couple of waiver wire guys from the Giants. Luis Ortiz is a right hander and Andrew Vasquez is a left hander. The Mets claimed reliever Taylor Saucedo off waivers from the Toronto Blue Jays. Everybody is getting their 40 man rosters ready, now. There will soon be a wave of non-tenders to add to the movement.

Will Smith and Trey Mancini reached free agency. Drew Smyly declined his mutual option with the Cubs. Jorge Soler exercised his option and will remain in Miami for $15 Million. Eric Hosmer exercised his option to make $13 Million with the Red Sox. The Mets declined their mutual option for Mychal Givens. The Mets did re-sign their closer Edwin Diaz to a five year deal. The Mariners claimed left hander Gabe Speier off waivers from the Royals and outrighted a couple of guys.

Jose Ramirez, of the Guardians, underwent right thumb surgery to repair an ulnar collateral ligament injury he suffered in June. He’ll probably be ready for spring training.

In addition to the Operations Pitching Analyst, the Angels are also hiring an Administrative Operations Assistant. There are a ton of openings with other organizations listed on Fangraphs right now. (Phillies, Braves, Diamondbacks)

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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2002heaven
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4 months ago

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2 WS Championships……….4 League Pennants
Meanwhile Alex Anthopolous’s Former Personal Assistant=0
YEP NADA, Zilch, Not a damm thing!!! What the hell have we done the past 7 yrs?
😡 😡 😡 😠 …….BYE!!!!

Last edited 4 months ago by 2002heaven
GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
4 months ago

If no one signs Joc Pederson, does that mean the Giants have to pay him the QO? There is more than one player on that list not worth the QO, so why would a team do that? It is not like a team could ever get their money’s worth with a few of these choices the teams made.

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Jon Jay is off the list of potential LF for us.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
4 months ago

The 14 players that will cost us a 2nd rounder and int. pool money.

The full qualifying offer list, per ESPN sources:

– Aaron Judge
– Trea Turner
– Xander Bogaerts
– Jacob DeGrom
– Dansby Swanson
– Carlos Rodón
– Brandon Nimmo
– Willson Contreras
– Chris Bassitt
– Anthony Rizzo
– Tyler Anderson
– Martín Perez
– Joc Pederson
– Nathan Eovaldi

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 10, 2022

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
4 months ago

That’s a long list. The more you sign the lower the draft pick given up, let’s get 6 of ’em or a half dozen of ’em, either way we rebuild without dealing with yooit’s.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
4 months ago

Joc Pederson, really?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

All it’ll take is a small commitment of a couple billion dollars over seven years…. that’s just $778,779 a day and an owner can rest easy knowing he will have the warm glow of getting his ass kicked by the Astros every year to keep him warm at night.

But he will have moved a lot of old men’s needles.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago

Outside of deGrom, the answer is…PASS.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

We do need more IL days for our pitching staff.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago

deGrom is a difference maker, to me. The only one on that list. Yes, he is an IL risk.

Anthony Rizzo declined a QO? I thought he just declined the player option.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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The only thing better than wondering where we’d be if 1/2 our offense wasn’t hurt is wondering where we’d be if 1/2 our offense AND our 40M ace pitcher weren’t hurt.

And, as an added bonus, we can be all chapped ass about the GM not having the foresight to have a shortstop, 1B, 3B and OF PLUS a spare ace pitcher waiting in the wings as depth.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Nimmo, Turner, Swanson…. I’d give up some kid potential for any of them. Just don’t think we can shell out the paycheck.

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Sean Newcomb is a free agent……..Bueller….Bueller…..nvm

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

I remember so many complaints about “How could you trade our best pitching prospect?”
Put a fork in him.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Garbage

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Man, the Rays cut Brendan McKay…. there’s a top top prospect that the Angels also didn’t draft. I am still trying to figure out how Arte managed to injure him over and over again.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
4 months ago

Louiseville kid. Remember when he was a two way monster.

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Japanese star Kodai Senga to sign w/LA Angels.

Is a headline I’d like to see

Eric_in_Portland
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4 months ago

I tried to read about how qualifying offers work but it was too much for my brain to take in. Many levels, many penalties (loss of this kind of draft pick if such and such happens, loss of a different kind of pick if something else happens, differing types of compensation picks). So I won’t worry about it.

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
4 months ago

It used to be simple, sign someone elses QO lose 1st round pick, sign another a 2nd round pick, now beautiful minds (Mine is reasonably neutral attractive) are needed to figure it out.

If a losing team signs a QO I would like to see minimal recoupment being rec’d, just my two cents…..

Last edited 4 months ago by Angelz4ever
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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That’s the spirit.

Now all you have to do is craft bold and aggressive comments about QOs and draft pick compensation followed by a declaration that PTP (who does read the stuff about QOs) is stupid. At that point your journey to awesome baseball fella is complete.

red floyd
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4 months ago

You also have to post random pictures of people who given a QO

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  red floyd

I was just gonna post a picture of Joc Pederson because I am edgy and also love heavy platoon splits.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Tootsie doesn’t show up until after he is finished posting on his favorite team sites first. Mariners/Astros.

Then comes here to irritate the ones how can’t stop replying to him.

FungoAle
Super Member
4 months ago

Perry the Puffer is stupid, no other way to explain foreiting a compensation pick for a guy like Syndergaard. Hell, even the Phillies did not trust him.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
4 months ago

I’ll link a piece that explains it in tomorrow’s link.

Eric_in_Portland
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4 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

thanks Jeff!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Someone yesterday told me that Ohtani’s agent intimated that Ohtani looks favorably on extending here even if he just nixed extension talks for now. I couldn’t find that. Anybody know if it’s true?

I hope it is cause extending him is better than losing him for nothing and trying to trade him when everyone knows we NEED to is also a crappy position to be in, though demand should be high enough to negate that sorta kinda.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

That someone must be off his John Rocker. But reading between the lines from the comments made by Nez Balelo in Fletch’s linked story I got a strong sense that Ohtani really wants to stay in the new owners are on board. The comments from Ohtani’s agent sounded like someone who would be interested in resigning with the Angels if they got their Ownershit together by next season:

Shohei Ohtani’s agent told reporters on Tuesday that he was glad to see Minasian publicly douse any rumors of Ohtani being traded.
“I thought it was really good that he addressed all of you to let you all know that he and the ownership’s desire is not to move Shohei and to keep him around for the 2023 season,” Nez Balelo said. “So I’m glad he addressed it and we’re moving on.”
Balelo would not say whether any negotiations have taken place for a long-term deal. He simply said that they were happy to have the $30 million, one-year deal and they would see what happens if and when the Angels are sold.

It’s been very quiet,” Balelo said. “So we don’t know what’s going on. But it’s not our business. It’s Arte (Moreno) and his wife and the rest of the organization’s business, not ours. So I guess we would just have to wait to see who the group was that came in and if they had an appetite to move forward and see what they wanted to do with Shohei.”
The question looming over the Ohtani negotiations is whether the Angels can prove to Ohtani that they can build a winning team around him.Balelo said there’s hope.

“I think that the Angels are positioned in a great spot,” Balelo said. “I think that they may be a couple additions away from competing. I think health has always been an issue and if they could get over that hurdle, I think that there’s a lot of promise with the organization.”

IMHO This doesn’t sound like an Agent communicating his clients wishes to get out of Dodge. But instead wants to stay.

Last edited 4 months ago by Cowboy26
RexFregosi
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

i think a big factor in Ohtani staying is simple – Mike stayed, and if it’s good enough for Mike……

however what makes me nervous is Ohtani has already said when he left Japan early “LFG – let’s put it ALL there and roll from there” He’s been through that once. If he liked it, he could want to do it again.

Either way, i will remain optimistic he signs LT here until he doesn’t.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Well, it’s not “he’s favorable” but it’s a whole lot better than “nope, don’t want to talk extension.”

Trouble is, as is often the case with the things CtPG guys likes to squeeze his thighs together over, Arte selling the team and when it happens are not entirely within his control. Someone has to want to pay him, and the owners have to meet and then agree. If and when that happens is largely up to other people and we have no idea of when NewOwnerz will even be around to snuggle Ohtani…. but we can be sure he has very little trade value by then.

So it still sounds like we will either be stuck with his huge contract or a QO draft pick. Yay. Nothing like trying to be the Yankees in an era where the Yankees aren’t even doing that anymore…. but with 1/5 the fanbase.

Halos_in_DE
Member
4 months ago

And remember jersey ads coming next year. FTX, who are also on the umps uniform, dropped out back in June.

Maybe Edison can come back?

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Halos_in_DE

Or even Enron?

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Halos_in_DE

Hopefully Crypto.com goes under too and we can get a better name for Staples Center

red floyd
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4 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Ever since the name change, I’ve been looking forward to the rename after the impending cryptocurrency implosion.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Halos_in_DE

Which will be the first team to sport a dick pill on their jersey?

Who will be the pharma marketing genius to slap some logo for what ever drug women use to regulate their mood swings on jerseys to take advantage of all those seething sports widow eye balls?

Sure, the game itself is getting boring as f***, but ad watch is heating up. Plus we may get more uniforms like those fashion abortions the Padres wore for a City Connect. The future…….

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

That would be the Rangers. Yea haw! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-vTJlFUjmY

red floyd
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Didn’t Soggy Joe do one as well?

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Not sure but I think I would have remembered it if I saw it.

Angelstan
Member
4 months ago

It’s fun to think about the new players the Angels may bring in but hard to get too excited. First, the front office will have their thoughts. Second, Arte or the prospective new owners will have theirs. Third, given the uncertainty, it’s hard to think too many marketable free agents will be excited about playing in Anaheim in 2023. The Angels are probably best situated to make trades and get guys that are already under contract. But we will see.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Angelstan

They would if Arturo offered his customary overpay to an aging vet coming of his career year.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Judge?

RexFregosi
Super Member
4 months ago

SI reports only 5 teams have better odds than us of signing him.

I’d be excited about Judge but i wont be excited by Gallo.