LA Angels Tuesday News Crash:

Let’s hope the swelling goes down soon for David Fletcher. Archie Bradley’s bullpen session on Saturday was good they say. Shohei Ohtani got a shout out from the Pitching Ninja. He threw one past Kyle Tucker at 101 MPH. Ha ha ha ha! The Angels have a better record than the Yankees in the second half. Hell! Didn’t we just get through winning a series against those guys? Mike Trout could take second in the home run race without even qualifying for the batting title.

Former Angels

They changed the pitch mix for Raisel Iglesias in Atlanta and now he’s “untouchable.” Cooper Criswell was scheduled to start last night for the Rays. Remember him? Tony La Russa has been away from the White Sox dugout for a while with some health issues. He does not know if or when he will return. Among other things, he had a pacemaker installed. Noah Syndergaard made it onto this list of ten guys whose careers were ruined by injury. Thor is not the pitcher he once was, but he still has a career. I think this is a rather bizarre take.

People Who Were Never Angels

Jorge Soler is likely out for the rest of the season. The Giants extended Wilmer Flores for two years. The Yankees designated Ronald Guzman for assignment. The Marlins selected the contract of right hander Aneurys Zabala. Left hander Andrew Nardi was optioned in a corresponding move.

The Reds selected Raynel Espinal and released Albert Almora Jr. The Red Sox claimed infielder Yu Chang off waivers from the Rays.

Former big league relief pitcher Anthony Varvaro was killed in a car crash Sunday morning. He was 37.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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DowningDude
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15 days ago

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steelgolf
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15 days ago
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💪💪💪💪🦿🦿🦿🦿

DowningDude
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15 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

BUY!!!

2002heaven
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15 days ago

Jo Adell, Mickey Moniak, and Brandon Marsh could’ve been our outfield this year……..UGGGGHHH!

DowningDude
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15 days ago
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2002heaven
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15 days ago

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They’re good enough to win it all……..Sorry Dipo haters!!!!
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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2002heaven
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15 days ago

Beat the Braves in recent series
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GonFishin
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15 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

You gotta get some help.

Cowboy26
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15 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

HA HA HA HA HA HA .

So now you’re a comedian.

2002heaven
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15 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Mickey Moniak
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DowningDude
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15 days ago

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2002heaven
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15 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Looks like a very bad movie with Denzel Washington and Pauley Shore as cast members. What f#cki:ng embarrassing lineup.

Eric_in_Portland
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15 days ago

One important stat for 2022: Trout stolen bases, 1.

GonFishin
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15 days ago

On the bases and in the field, Trout seems to be running and moving fine. I don’t mind the conservative approach or even DHing him a bit…kind of wish the trainer didn’t come out and say what he did about Trout’s condition. Would bet Mike thinks the same thing.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  GonFishin

CtPG is angry. Trainer won’t come out and tell us player is hurt. CtPG is angry. Trainer came out and told us player is hurt. CtPG is angry.

DowningDude
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15 days ago

Ah but player didn’t proclaim in spring that he was in the “BSOML” so he’s hiding somethnig

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  DowningDude

Well, Arte is hiding something THROUGH said player because as long as people believe said player will come back from any unspoken injury soon they will fill the stadium. Also, Andrew is hiding something through Arte through the player because Andrew wears Arte like a skin suit.

dig a little deeper. the truth is out there. this is 4D chess

2002heaven
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15 days ago

I listen to DAVE not Andrew.

Last edited 15 days ago by 2002heaven
2002heaven
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15 days ago

hopefully 7 or less.
stolen bases are bad for power hitters

GonFishin
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15 days ago

Regarding Iglesias: that’s what happens your owner forces the GM to make cost cutting moves and prioritizes the bottom line rather than on field product and development. I said at TDL that we shouldn’t have moved Iglesias this year because his trade value was at an all time low and had nowhere to go but up. Now all we have to show for is Tucker Davidson. Watch the Braves flip him for actual prospects now in a year or 2, not these 26 year old AA journeymen we like to acquire.

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Cowboy26
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15 days ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Hence why we need a new owner with some deep saddle bags

Jeff Joiner
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15 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Arte is a billionaire. He has saddle bags or at least access to them if he’s a little cash strapped.

We need an owner with foresight. By eating some of the Iggy and Thor contracts the talent return is almost certainly better.

But Arte never operated with much foresight when it comes to prospects and had decided he wanted to sell prior to the deadline so all he cared about was getting off the hook for the money owed.

Cowboy26
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15 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Arte is a billionaire that refuses to invest in his asset. Foresight is worthless unless you back it up. The Dodgers have foresight. The Dodgers also have a $300 million payroll. But they spend in every facet of the game including player development. The A’s have had foresight but why do you think Billy Beane is finally tired of the wash rinse repeat cycle in Oakland?

Stan Kroenke has foresight but he also has the where with all to spend $5,000,000,000 on a new stadium.

You can have all of the greatest futuristic visions to build the best MLB team possible. But bottom line is No Bucks No Buck Rodgers and no multiple winning seasons.

2002heaven
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15 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

yes like Donald Sterling who’s net worth was way more than the late Jerry Buss. The Seattle Mariner’s owner net worth is less than A%r)e Mor%no’s so what does that tell you? A bad owner is a bad owner no matter what…….
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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wow. moated

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2002heaven
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15 days ago

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FungoAle
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15 days ago
Reply to  GonFishin

At $16M AAV for 3-more years, I’m stoked about dumping him. The time to maximize obtaining talent was last years trading deadline. Perry whiffed, twice. Better to repurpose the $16M to the offensive holes at 1st, OF and SS.

We can take one of those snazzy, twenty 2021 FA draft pitchers and train him to get people out. Don’t count on Backman though…whiffed.

Last edited 15 days ago by FungoAle
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

Yup. Pretty much.

2002heaven
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15 days ago
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We need to have the same elite level scouting as Houston has
Luis Garcia, Framber Valadez, Jose Urquidy…….not Thor and Ryan Tempura….
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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DowningDude
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15 days ago

kardashians before surgery?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Three Hispanic dudes… and Tootie Too. Man Tootie loves those guys, even if he hasn’t actually looked them up all year.

2002heaven
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15 days ago

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FungoAle
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15 days ago

LMAO

2002heaven
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15 days ago

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2002heaven
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15 days ago
Reply to  GonFishin

We had to also make that deal for payroll reasons.
I win again……….

AnAngelsFan
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15 days ago

Trout needs 502 PAs to qualify. Right now he has 416 PAs in 100 games, or 4.16 PA/game. With 16 games left, that projects to 483 PAs, so he’ll be 19 PAs (~5 games) short of qualifying. Realistically, I expect Trout to take Sundays off, so he’ll only play 14 games and end ~474 PAs.

His most likely avenue to qualify is to play all 16 games with an average of 5.4 PAs/game. That’s practically impossible. If the Angels are scoring enough to get to 5.4 PAs/game, then Trout is probably getting pulled early in a good portion of those games.

The qualifying requirement is too high. I think you should qualify with the equivalent of 4.0 PAs/game in 2/3rds (108) of the games, which would be 432 PAs.

AnAngelsFan
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15 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Well, I’m an idiot. I completely ignored the 5 games in October. Given that, it’s possible Trout could qualify, but it will be very difficult if he even takes 1 rest day, which he most certainly will.

Last edited 15 days ago by AnAngelsFan
Eric_in_Portland
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15 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

but what difference does it make if he qualifies? That’s for batting average, OPS, OBA. He doesn’t need 502 PAs for HRs or any counting stats. BBRef shows Trout 2nd in HRs. They also have Trout listed for OPS and slugging with asterisks. He’s 2nd there, too.

Since he won’t pass Judge in any of those I don’t think it matters if he has 470 PAs or 502.

2002heaven
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15 days ago

Could care less about individual stats
Only championship banners flying around the stadium matter. Why so Mr Trade Veto can spend $3 on a 30 yr old pitcher who’s on his 5th team.
Not gonna do cartwheels if Ohtani or Trout beat out Judge.

Last edited 15 days ago by 2002heaven
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Bonely Champernshit bananas martar! STFU least champ.

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FungoAle
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15 days ago

Alvin Davis?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

Si. Alvin.

tommyshalo
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15 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

I still think the qualifying requirement is far easier for a batter than a SP who hardly goes 7IP nowadays.
It should be time to change to perhaps 150IP or even 162×0.9.

Eric_in_Portland
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15 days ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

Texcellent point! It really shows up when you look at the trash pandas stats. I think there are only two pitchers who qualify

AnAngelsFan
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15 days ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

Sold. I am now also in favor of reducing the IP requirement for the ERA title.

ihearhowie3.0
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15 days ago

Phillies changed Thor’s pitch mix as well.

I get everyone does it and we sometimes have success from changing someone’s approach….but not a great look for the Minasian analytics department and Wise that other teams improved on the same players mid-season.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Yeah, that’s why the Angels pitching staff is at or near the bottom in every….. oh…never mind.

Cowboy26
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15 days ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

And the Phillies are so much smarter than the PTP doofuses that Thor’s WHIP went From 1.215 to 1.415 and his ERA went From 3.83 to 4.61 while his strikeouts per 9 innings have gone down (7.2/9 to 5.0/9) since joining the Phightless Phils. So saying that the Phillies helped Phix Thor is just Phake news.

The main difference IMHO is he joined a team whose bottom 1/2 of the lineup doesn’t suck giant balls so hes gotten better run support.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Bu bu but…. Arte… PTP…. I heart the hate… your facts ruin my heart.

By the way Halo Honks, if you ever want to stop being a pile of sad losers you have to get over the fact that players leave teams, and then they do better, worse or the same and that happens to just about every team…. except the Rays and Dodgers.

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Cowboy26
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15 days ago

The other problem with Thor is if he lets traffic on base its a guaranteed double. In his time here he gave up 25 stolen bases while a grand total of 1 CS. Since joining the Phantastic Philly Phamily hes given up 5 stolen bases (including 2 with his last start) with 2 caught stealings. I guess thats bette but still a big problem.

And With the pitch clock and pick off attempt limitations next year Thor maybe even more radioactive to bring back.

FungoAle
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15 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

At least the Phillies did not have to give up a compensatory draft pick. Perry has got to own that mistake.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

Ah yes. The soul crushing lost 2nd round pick. How will an org survive?

FungoAle
Super Member
15 days ago

For a farm poor organization, why not trade one for a post-TJ arm on a 1-year prove it deal. I want Perry’s balls in a jar on my desk by 1400!

Last edited 15 days ago by FungoAle
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

Ah yes, the “farm poor” simper for a reason to sweat a second round pick until it gives you ass cancer. That second round pick still isn’t a very big deal at all unless you just need more big deals in your life.

Jeff Joiner
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15 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

True but he basically got that back in Moniak. Possibly could’ve improved on that if Arte was willing to eat some contract.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

No Jeff. Perry bad. Mad. Sad.

Some people just need to put a tack in their shoe so they feel pious. Don’t take the tragic loss of a second round pick (from a team that these same wankers will also complain can’t scout and thus won’t ever draft anyone good) away from these life victims.

DowningDude
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15 days ago

Wanker? What does that asspimple Seattle Mariner player have to do with anything?

2002heaven
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15 days ago

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FungoAle
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15 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’m pulling for Moniak. Nothing would make me more pleased to see Moniak making it in this league as well as Thaiss.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

I have mocked him for so long. It would only be fitting for him to come to my favorite team and blossom like Blossom.

DowningDude
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15 days ago

Although he may be soleil moon-fried.

RexFregosi
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15 days ago

To me this is me monumental.

For the last 50 years, I have believed Nolie was the greatest baseball player ever. (27 seasons)

MNT just passed him on the BRef all time WAR list last night – he is now #60. (He just passed Rodney also).

Carry on.

Eric_in_Portland
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15 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

it’s interesting to speculate where he’ll wind up. Let’s say he averages 6.0 WAR for the next five years, which would be spectacular for anyone else. That would put Trout in the top 20 of all time. I don’t think he’ll make top 10, though. Still, I imagine he’ll be in the Ted Williams/Stan Musial/Rogers Hornsby range. Also in that group, Eddie Collins, who is pretty much ignored in baseball lore. 3315 hits, .333 lifetime average, started in the deadball era, stole a lot of bases.

Fansince1971
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15 days ago

WMB (what might have been) for MNT if he hadn’t missed the equivalent of 2 full seasons in his prime over the last 3 years. Add 15-20 WAR to where he is right now.

RexFregosi
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15 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Ted Williams lost almost 5 yrs serving in WW2 and the Korean War in his prime (others too with interupted careers) — i won’t be getting caught up in that.

Fansince1971
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15 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

It’s a fair point. Williams ended up with 122 WAR missing those seasons. I guess we can marvel at that or wonder what might have been. I guess the latter doesn’t accomplish much.

DowningDude
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15 days ago

That tweet about Yankees 2nd half compared to Angels is pure gold.

DowningDude
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15 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Shuts down all that “BUT HES SINGLE HANDEDLY CARRYING HIS TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS ON HIS BACK BOTH WAYS IN THE SNOWWWWW”

steelgolf
Super Member
15 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Reading that tweet sure makes the morning coffee taste better.

MarineLayer
Super Member
15 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

How can it be argued that Judge should get MVP over Ohtani when even the part about carrying your team beyond your individual stats in the second half supports Ohtani, too. Nothing overcomes least coast bias.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

Ohtani’s only 0.5 WAR behind Judge now…. so we’ll see. But to save you from choking on all that “OHHR MAH GIRRD!” if Judge wins, just remember he has an OPS+ over 200. To help your brain catalog that, do you know which of Trout’s seasons had an OPS+ over 200? Here, take a look. On top of that the big ox is actually a good outfielder. So it’s not going to be a society crushing injustice if Judge wins.

If Ohtani could manage a BA/OBP within 30 points of Judge it would help, but he hasn’t. Still, if he pitches the lights out and keeps hitting he could catch Judge, he’d just need to do something that draws attention, he’s not going to be statistically ahead of Judge by all that much unless Judge collapses…. which would be very fun to watch.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
15 days ago

But wait! I thought WAR was EVERYTHING for the MVP award.

When Trout was “robbed” of the award,
every.
single.
post.

Screamed: HE WUZ ROBBED!!! WAR IS ALL THAT COUNTS!

So does it only count if an Angel leads the league in WAR, or not?

DowningDude
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15 days ago
Reply to  Marcotor

No. That’s why we all agree – Judge is presently MVP but it’s gonna be close if that blister doesn’t hamper Ohtani’s pitching.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Marcotor

Huh?

Yeah. If Judge ends up with MOAR WAR then I think he should win. I don’t care how neato Ohtani is cause pitch n hit.

RexFregosi
Super Member
15 days ago

WAR is an approximation not an exact number really, not to the decimal point anyways.
but whoever has the most WAR wins it to me too. Judge will get >60 hr, but to be MVP, its about having the most WAR…even if its just by a billionth to the unit.
Shohei needs some bigger round #s to help his cause, like 200k and 15w (as well as qualifying for ERA title), 40 HR but win the WAR wins the AWARD

steelgolf
Super Member
15 days ago

Yesterday, Stassi should have given Kulpa a Snickers bar.

benjiface
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15 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Kulpa is a giant ass and terrible at his job

steelgolf
Super Member
15 days ago
Reply to  benjiface

He was definitely in “Giant Ass “ beast mode last night. He won’t let a pitcher throw a couple of warm up pitches, after play is stopped, and he goes with “because I said so”.

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