LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: O’Hoppe Homer

Logan O’Hoppe homered for the Trash Pandas in their 4-1 win over Tennessee on August 5th.

Jarren Duran is giving Jo Adell a run for his money in terms of outfield struggles. Alex Cora says “He’s our center fielder right now. We trust him.” His little altercation with the fans was because they were throwing bottle caps at him.

Kevin Kiermaier may be available as an outfield lottery ticket this off season. The Cubs will probably release Jason Hayward to put another outfielder with injury issues on the free agent market.

It looks like Perry must have passed on Franmuil Reyes. He also apparently passed on infielder Rylan Bannon.

The replay officials called this runner safe because the catcher was blocking the plate. What do you think?

The Cleveland Guardians optioned Mustard to their High A affiliate. Mustard has struggled in 2022 being beaten repeatedly by both Ketchup and Onions.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Fansince1971
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1 year ago

Spoke with my client service rep today and advised I am giving up my 4 season tickets of over a quarter century. He wanted to know why. I pulled no punches. Told him that I cannot keep supporting a team without a solid baseball organization rather than a marketing-centric team. I told him it is not related to ticket cost or W-L. Instead, I I cannot in good conscious keep pouring money into a baseball organization where marketing guys like Carpino, Kuhl and Arte call the shots. I told him I’ve become incredibly uncomfortable with a team that doesn’t focus on scouting, international scouting, player development and strength and conditioning. Finally, we talked about the difference finishing 70-92 with a couple of superstars with bloated contracts and 70-92 with a young team full of developing players. I said I would rather watch and support the latter.

To his credit he was very understanding and knew baseball. He agreed to the extent he could while still being politically “correct” to his bosses.

He said things might change. But I’ve heard that too many times before.

Last edited 1 year ago by Fansince1971
tanana40
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I hope that things turn around organizationally and you can get your season tickets back sometime in the future. I would give anything to live in a MLB city where I could attend games regularly. You saw some good teams in that 25 years.

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Your level of commitment to the team far exceeds most. 81 games worth of tickets (plus a preseason game or two) for 25 years is huge. The Angels should appreciate that and listen to your displeasure.

I didn’t renew my mini plan this year. Meant to, but just didn’t. And then the wheels fell off the season.

Not sure if I will next year. I’m leaning towards not. Not that my son is in school I have to avoid night games with him. And honestly I prefer to avoid night games on Friday and Saturday anyway.

My favorite games, by far, are Sunday afternoons. And those are never sold out and almost always have better deals on StubHub.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I took my daughter to a game in May but haven’t been since. It’s one of the few tangible things you can do if you actually are upset with management. Don’t spend money on the team.

Jeff Joiner
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1 year ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Yep. I just can’t quit them. I have bought my last several games on StubHub figuring Arte already has somebody’s money but isn’t getting any more of mine.

You know, outside of the food and the ice cream and the parking ha ha.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Thank you for doing that! If enough people do it, maybe it will make a difference.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Agree. What Fan did in making that decision and then communicating the REASONS is probably the only thing that makes a substantive difference.

Sure we can stop going to individual games or buying gear, but that is small compared to season ticket holders dropping 4 seats for 81 games just like that,..

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  JackFrost

If they are anything like other sports franchises I have read about back in school, if they lose 500+ full season seats (which could totally happen) without re-selling them it usually becomes an issue.

So yeah. Angry season ticket folks unite!

What will really get heard is when, if they lose those seats, they reach out to people who had seats, or had smaller packages, and try to get them interested in buying back in. If most of those people scoff at the idea it becomes the type of thing PR companies get consulted on.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

It will. If enough people do it it’s pretty dang unignorable. Their next phase, not because they’re a horrible org or anything, just normal, will be to try their best to right the ship and see if they can get some wins and people come back. So even if people take action they’ll likely have to sit through that.

If that fails, and TV ad sales drop too, etc then maybe, finally, we will see some of the Carpino/Kuhl type guys leave.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Fansince1971

Holy shit. An actual thing has happened. Good for you.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Thanks for sharing this Fan. This DOES have an impact. Very well said by you and thanks for telling your rep all that in great detail….

2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago

The Outfield of the 2020’s (Jo Adell, Brandon Marsh……now a backup in Philly) plus
Griffin Canning, Matt Thaiss, Austin Warren, Chase Silseth, Andrew Wantz, All suck too. All prove this organization can’t scout to save their own Mother’s lives..
 😠  😡  💩  💩 

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  2002heaven

All prove this organization That Billy Eppler & Jerry Dipoto can’t scout to save their own Mother’s lives.

There. FIFY

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Kiermaire and Heyward are beyond their best years and do not fit in what is needed here, capable hitters.

Franmil is strictly a DH, no fit here.

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Could you imagine Kiermaier playing alongside Jo Adell? HAHAHAHAHAHAH

Even balls where Adell goes back into the LF corner, Kiermaier would be over-taking him to catch them.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I’d consider KK if he primarily kept Trout in a corner outfield spot. Get an elite glove in CF and the pitching looks better, too.

That said, it only works if the rest of the team is good with the bat. KK isn’t Squid in the box, but we can’t have multiple weak spots in the lineup.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

You know what might be cool down the road this winter? Kinda like what J Frost did re Ward Vs play off teams’ outfielders, we should do some comparisons. Like “over all OF”, say the 4-5 guys with the most OF innings on the play off teams compared to ours, or 2B, or SS, etc.

Maybe make a fake “play off team” that’s the average for all the play off teams for each position, bull pen, etc.

Then we could see things like…
How much better than Fletcher/Rengifo do we need to get at SS/2B? Can those two possibly perform near what’s needed?
Or how much better were the bench players?
How bad is our bullpen?
Are there areas of strength that can cover for areas we leave weak because you can only patch so many holes?

We’d be able to at least make an educated guess regarding things like needing KK or needing Brandon Nimmo etc.

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
1 year ago

That could be fun.

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’m not sure if KK is a real starting OF any more, not just bc of the weak offense, but given his injury history. I would welcome him as a good glove first reserve OF, but I’d be bugged if he’s the starting CF

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago

I found this on my Fanshot archive at the old site. Thought it might bring some chuckles…
John Carpino’s tattoo*:
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*not sure if it’s really Carpino but at the time I posted this (June 2016) Buttercup was in full swing at the Big A.

MikeSalmon
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

My first pass at reading the first line was “I raped your mom,” and then thought I needed another pass at it. Didn’t scan. Anyone with “I raped your mom” as the first line of a tattoo – even with flowery flourishes (so THOSE are buttercups?) – must already be in prison for multiple lifetimes.

Imagine that whole thing on your neck.

On second thought, don’t. (What’s that? Too late?)

Better fashion a shiv from bedsprings ASAP. Doin’ time in stir is rough enough, and don’t send me back to solitary, warden, I CAN’T HANDLE IT I TELLS YA!

(Sorry: flashbacks.)

And then worst of all (worst of all)
You never call baby, etc: the whole damned thing is one whiny complaint by the Foundations, the one-hit wonders. And it’s all too horribly apt for being an Angels fan. I mean, let’s face it. Every Spring we have hope, only to be baseball blueballed.

Doesn’t mean you go tattooing your ignominous baseball blueball status to the world. And especially not on your neck. Have some respect and make that a trampstamp, fer crissakes.

Finally: this season was/is so egregious for us that…well, let’s let the whiny, sexually frustrated Foundations say it:

I need you (I need you)
More than anyone darling…

A lot of us are finally questioning just how much we “need” this. We may be slow on the uptake – for me it’s been 52 years and yeah 2002 was glorious, but – to quote an old blues tune, “If she won’t do it then her sister will.” Now: WHO do you pick for a sister? I got nuthin.’ Not the Padres. I tried. It felt like trying to imagine making it with a dude.

I got nuthin’.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Looks like a woman’s back.

MikeSalmon
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

You think Carpino’s back looks like a woman’s?

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

That is Carpino ? What is he wearing a corset ? Lmao.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

LMFAO. 😂

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 year ago

Peacock was DFA by the Jays. If we get him, we can have a goose and a peacock.

And I still want us to pick up Rondon, and sign Rodon in the offseason.

And the Twins released Tyler Duffey yesterday. We should get him too. We’d need Wade back too if we did that.

Win or lose, I still think I would have fun just listening to the announcers try to talk about the team..

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Poor Patrick, he’d have his tongue tied.

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago

That’s a bad thing?????

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

With a staple gun?

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 year ago

Neto to AA already wow.

Feels like they’re trying to create a future core all on one team

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Interesting. I wonder if the AA Trash Pandas could beat the current Major League Trash Angels

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I heard that the commish is considering relegating the Angels to AA and making the Trash Pandas the new MLB team!

But he’ll shift the divisions because of geography and all that….

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Classic…Trash Angels.

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Would Trash Angels be the Devil’s? Fallen angels and all?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Could that core building also please involve burning down our entire current 25 man? And uniforms? And the songs they play at the stadium? And the Rally Monkee? And the fans?

Mia
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Mia
1 year ago

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Jeff Joiner
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Legend
1 year ago

Possibly another shortstop added to the slate of free agents next year.

I nether love or hate TA but the more talent in that pool, the better the odds of the Angels landing one.

Correa, Xander, and Turner will get huge money. Like too huge for the Angels to consider unless Arte really cranks up payroll.

But replace Squid’s OPS+ 35 of with TA’s 108 and the lineup looks a lot better.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

If we are gonna spend on SS I wouldn’t mind TA.

But, unlike many, I don’t really want to spend on a “real” shortstop. I know it will drive many to tears, but I’d rather roll out with Rengifo/Fletcher/Velasquez as our infield depth chart (maybe sign Iglesias or Elvis Andrews for cheap).

I’d blow money on Trey Mancini for OF/DH depth and a 1B platoon (or Jesus Aguilar since we have Adell and Moniak technically able to play CF and some of that IF mix can play corner OF in a pinch) and sign MOAR PIDJIN! Also trade Ohtani for stuff we need.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 year ago

I have a piece coming out Thursday that offers another solution for the middle infield. I think you’ll like it. But I don’t know.

I’ll find out Thursday, ha ha.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

If the title isn’t Arte Better Sign Turner or He’s an Asshole and I Lay Stuff Squarely at His Feet I’m sure it’s at least worth a think.

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Turner can play CF, you know, and iirc, he was quite good at it, too

GrandpaBaseball
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1 year ago

Come out of the ether and stop drinking the Kool-Aid if you are under the belief that this this next year can be a .500 team with very little changes. Ward is a backup at best, but a good one. Walsh needs to be in a platoon if he stays. Rengifo is a super sub, super meaning he can play several positions. Can never depend on Rendon or Walsh to be everyday players again. Stassi is nothing more than a team’s 3rd catcher. Adell is a 5th Outfielder. With this team being a 5th outfielder means serious playing time. We need a a stud SS and move Fletch back to 2nd before he gets hurt again. And sadly, we need to increase the payroll to bring in a real SS, but payroll dictates cap will limit how this team performs.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

You sound like what you like to call a Doomer. The only difference between you and me is I saw this sooner.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

That and he doesn’t have clouds in his coffee.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

Two people may eventually say the same thing.

Doomer says it on April 30th. Doomers also generally think this somehow makes them special.

Normal guy with eyes and stuff says it in late July.

2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago

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Because WE ARE!!!!
We didn’t drink the Pollyanna Kool-Aid from April to the Detmer’s NoNo and then proceed to fall further and harder than Lucifer from Heaven.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

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What ARE YOU?

See, I went from…
March: This team will need some luck to finish over .500 and that’s OK.

to….
April: Damn, they look good right now. If they keep this up maybe we can get destroyed by Houston in the playoffs.
May: How? How can a team be THIS bad? It can’t last forever, and mathematically they can still compete.
June: Welp. They have failed to compete. Doesn’t look good.
July: I’m bored. I’m gonna go do something. They should burn this team down to the water line…. that would be fun to watch.
August: Man. They just aren’t getting any be…. oh look, The Orioles are on free tonight.
September: Go Steelers…. mmmmm, Savannah looks good in that sweater… I kinda want to BBQ something…. birds. they drink weird….

And you know what it’s done to my life? Nothing. I’m still a solar blast furnace of wisdom, creativity, intelligence, strength and raw charisma. You’re still a tool.

Know what it did to the team? Nothing. At no point did they let up in their efforts or failure because of what I thought they may or may not be able to pull off.

Sooooo…. what did you win by not enjoying April? Is there a golden tool trophy out there?

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I didn’t become convinced until the Merry Go Round of all the cast offs on a daily basis filtering through. With decent backups in place, we may have weathered the storm. But, unlike you I do not blame the GM, as a matter of fact I believe he did his best under the circumstances. He is a little weak in picking at the dumpster this year as compared to last year. He did put together a very good starting staff but who knew that the BP would fold and the same time as the hitting. I am not a complete Doomer.

I really would like to see us make the Lotto top 5 as we can start a rebuild from there. What has been going on for the last 15 years does not work. We need youth more than we need anyone thing or one player, right now.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago

Lol. You’re calling Ward a backup ?

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Have you looked at the stats of other starting OF’s ??

Check out the Mariners, who are by the way ahead of us in the standings.

Ward is better than Haniger, Winker and Frazier.

Check out the Twins as well. They are another probable playoff team and he’s better than 2/3 of their outfield (Kepler, Kiriloff or Cave).

Should I go on ?

You should do your homework before you make such silly comments.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Jack on draft day
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Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Man that never gets old.

2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Marsh is a backup OF now in Philly
THAT NEVER GOT OLD TO ME!!! lol!!! HEE!
Joe Adell, Griffin Canning, Brandon Marsh………WTF?

Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Speaking of D.J Stewart, didn’t he flame out and become a bust?

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Huh ??

Please tell me how D.J Stewart is comparable to Taylor Ward ?

Career BA

Ward : .247
Stewart .213

Career Offensive bWAR

Ward : 1.3
Stewart : .5

Ummm, who is better?

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Pretty sure Stewart is still in the minors

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jayman28

yeah, that is my point to Downing Dude.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Jayman28

pretty sure you guys missed the entire Taylor Ward draft day. [spicoli voice] I was there, man! [/spicoli voice]

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

YOU MISSED AN ENTIRE MEME AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED?

for shame, Jack.

At the moment DJ Stewart was drafted, the Angels were suddenly “on the clock” …

This image is the ANGELS draft day WAR ROOM (checkers game room?) … at the instant that DJ Stewart was announced.

They were celebrating having Taylor Ward still available at slot 26 (first round) when many draft boards had Taylor Ward going in round three.

The gif was used for a long time as a joke – the Angels clearly not knowing how to draft … but now it’s kinda funny that Ward is good – makes Jerry and Ric Wilson look smart – kinda. Although, his route to the bigs was certainly uh circuitous, if you will.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

serpentine!

tanana40
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

That was a good movie.

2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

tumultuous actually, and a catcher by trade out of Fresno St
(so was Aaron Judge a former Fresno State Bulldog and Trent Dilfer who’s a jerk).

Last edited 1 year ago by 2002heaven
JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Right there he is good enough to be a starter on two potential playoff teams.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

There will be 12 PO teams in addition to at least 4 who just miss, do they all have worse RFer’s? Or do they just have better teams? Having a stronger over all team is better than pointing out a few with weaker RFer’s. We have the best 2B, even though he has to play SS right now. Does that make us better than the Jays?

2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago

2B is a gutty little overachiever position now.
Eclipsed by the SS and 3B position. I’d rather have Jonathan India and Tommy Edman because Fletch lacks speed and power.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Yep, I’m living in a different spectrum than you jack. RFer’s like Aaron, Clemente and Robinson were in a different era for sure. Today’s RFer’s are put in CF and hit 50 HR’s a year. Stanton will only hit 40 or maybe Bett’s will only score 135 runs this year while hitting 30 HRs. Our converted Catcher is in the top 10 in MLB. I concede I am what you would call an idiot, just that that the numbers that Clever has are all based on 6 weeks of play. BTW, I predicted that he would be our RFer back in February before you even knew if he would make the 25 roster. Just because he is the best we have does not mean he will not make a great backup, as our starters play less than our starters by the end of the season.

Comparing 12 rosters of playoff teams to the Angels roster makes a lot of sense as I’m sure all of them would trade RFer’s straight up and throw in their SS for our SS.
I never said that Ward was like Junk and shouldn’t be in the Majors.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Ward needs to produce over a full season. Never has before. Takes more than 5 weeks. Let’s see how well he does through August and September. He should be playing like he is fighting for a job.

2002heaven
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Yes, He’s a backup
Can’t field defensively no matter where you put him. BTW Luis Renfifo’s a backup, Jo Adell’s a backup, and our former shining star is backing up everybody in Philly too. Kind of what happens when you scout and draft by quantity over quality and then have the worst coaching and talent evaluators in the game to boot. THEY ALL SHOULD BE WORKING FOR DICK’S SPORTING GOODS……LOL!!! (Grady Fuson from the “Moneyball” movie getting in Billy Beane’s grill)
 💪  💪  💪  💪 

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago

Funny stuff Depart.
Dateline; City of Brotherly Love.
Marsh is 3 for 10, meaning hitting .300 with only one strikeout, meaning Phillies have hitting coaches.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Wow. He wins the MVP award for guys with ten ABs.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago

I think you are on to something there, just what is needed, a new award, the 10 AB award. You missed my sarcasm, I got yours though.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

No my friend. Our sarcasms joined forces…. like a sarcasm Voltron.

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago

More like “Wonder Twins” … Although I am left wondering who is the bucket of water?

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

And with Mickey Moniak’s success here (4 for 15 2 HRs .286/.333/.714), apparently so do the Angels.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

You may be on to something more than a change of scenery, let ckeck in with Rojas and Squid.

SScott
Super Member
1 year ago

I still think Marsh is going to develop into a solid hitter. I’m not yet familiar enough with Moniak to even have an opinion. No one should ever use Rojas or Squid as the benchmark to gauge anyone, coach or player.

Jeff Joiner
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1 year ago
Reply to  SScott

Marsh’s walk rate and decent power in the minors makes me think he might.

Marsh’s K rate at every level makes me think he won’t.

Thing is, he could be a .240/.320/.380 type guy and still be valuable with his defense.

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

And he’s already broke his Finger Tommy John…..trAdition

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Last year, Jose Suarez broke out and showed some promise.

Though he struggled earlier this year, he’s finally putting it together over his last 3 starts.

He’s kind of a bulldog on the mound. Not overpowering, but sneaky fast when he needs to be working off his slower stuff.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  rosstrade

Suarez broke out last year as a long reliever out of the pen. He couldn’t translate that same success as a starter until now. One of the things that helped him out of the pen last year is he worked at a good pace and rhythm and didnt think too much about his last pitch. This year he’s taking some of those similar philosophies and mixing them with another Change Up grip. And as much as no-one wants to hear it he credits the un-Wise.

https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1556858732490854400

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

UNPOSSIBLE!

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago

Free Matt Wise!

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Last year folks were falling all over themselves for Wise

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

Source? All I remember is bitching about Wise. I can’t recall ever seeing ANYONE come out and say “You know, that Matt Wise is a damn good pitching coach…” much less many people fawning all over him.

Unless your version of fawning is when someone declares that Wise is the worst pitching coach since balls were invented, he is evil, and we lay the whole season’s failure squarely at his feet and someone else responded “I dunno. He’s not the absolute worst….”

red floyd
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1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

* with purchase of a second Matt Wise. Free Matt Wise must be of equal or lesser value than purchased Matt Wise. Supplies are limited. Offer void where prohibited by law.

Jeff Joiner
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

there definitely seems to be two Suarez’s.

The one who works at a decent pace and grips it and rips it.

the one who takes a minute between pitches, nibbles, and gets through 4 innings on 95 pitches and gives up 3-4 runs doing so.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Watching Suarez pitch is like watching zooligists trying to get two pandas to fuck. I just skip his starts. I’d rather watch an 80 year old figure out a cell phone. Less teeth grinding.

DowningDude
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1 year ago

funny … i hate rolling up to the ballpark and then opening up the pitching matchup and seeing Suarez. lolz

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  rosstrade

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. He’s faced the royals and A’ss twice his last 3 games.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  rosstrade

Last 3 starts against the A’s (twice) and Royals. Going back to his 4th start, Dodgers and got crushed.

I like him and should be continued to be monitored. Potential trade bait along with a Bachman to improve the offense in 2023. That is the way this team needs to think.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 year ago

I really like the Angels Number 9 Prospect, Edgar Quero.

He’s looks undersized for a catcher. But, in what little I’ve seen of him, he plays bigger than his size and with a lot of confidence.

With O’Hoppe and Quero, hopefully, our future catching woes are solved.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  rosstrade

And Quero’s only 19 so the Angels can take their time with him as O’Hoppe ascends to the Big leagues. We may have a dynamic catching duo developing in Anaheim . Shades of Premium and Naples? We will need to hire Sosh back to coach them up though.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

That would be nice…..

benjiface
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Soth crying tears of joy over Premium catcher depth

Last edited 1 year ago by benjiface
h27kim
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

And we’ll trade the better hitter of the two for Vernone?

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 year ago

Cole Percival son of Troy had an update in The Athletic this morning after he left college at UCR.

lifelong Halo fan, wasn’t drafted.
Angels didnt sign him. would have cost $20k.

What happened next? trAdition.

The Dodgers came calling. Percival was a lifelong Angels fan, but the team for which his dad closed out the 2002 World Series and a franchise-best 316 games never approached with an offer. He took the plunge, confident in the Dodgers’ prolific player development system. Percival now is reaping the benefits. He moved up to Double-A Tulsa last week.
The 23-year-old has a 3.59 ERA in 54 games since last season. He has struck out 22 percent of batters in his 133 career innings, most of which have come in a bulk relief role. There are areas of his game left to refine, but it’s clear he’s on a promising track.
And how couldn’t he? He’s the spitting image of his dad, only wirier.

angelslogic
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

You could insert the names Vlad/Vlad Jr into that story.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  angelslogic

I know. All the stories of how desperate to sign with the Angels Vlad was that I can’t find on the internet haunt me to this day. All those nights he slept under that hats, just begging for the chance to play for the Angels. And if we just hadn’t signed Baldo we would have been that much closer to still not having as much money to offer Vlad Jr as the Blue Jays did.

For shame!

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

Those damn French Canadians.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

This is so frustrating to read. I wonder if the Intern even knew who Troy Percival was.

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

“prolific player development system”

Dang. i wonder what it’s like to have people actually write that statement about your team?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  RexFregosi

Wow. A 23 year old at A+ ball with a 3.59 ERA, a WHIP over 1.4 and a below average strike out percentage…. oh, and lot’s of walks.

Bu bu but Percy!

I lay this squarely at the feet of who gives a shit.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

The Doyers really screwed this up. They should have signed him as a catcher.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Who knows? He could be good eventually some day. But Jesus Christ, how hard do we sad bitch Angels fans have to work to find something new to be up our own asses about every morning?

And this is a baseball reporter saying “Wwwooooowwww…. 3.59ERA AND 22% K rate! ZOMS! That’s almost 6 per 9!”?

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 year ago

how hard do we sad bitch Angels fans have to work to find something new to be up our own asses about every morning?

its not hard at all. Its surprisingly easy

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 year ago

im a UCR alum so i give TWO shits about this one

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  RexFregosi

Did PTP go to Oklahoma State? If he did, and if “I went there” is strategy now, then that could explain a lot…..

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago

He went to UTI. Urinary Tract Institute.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  DowningDude

Trout or Rendon will be out with one of those next year. And most of CtPG acts like they have one all the time. So perfect.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

I thought PTP went to Dugout U?

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Amazing that people think bloodlines mean success. You hear that LeBron!

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Can he catch?

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

Passing on Franmil while picking up Duggar is such an Angels move. Great work, Intern.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

We’ll maybe, if it were true. The Cubs pick before the Angels in the waiver wire claims since they have a worst records I’m not sure the Angels even had a chance to claim him.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Well thats weird since everything else in the two leagues has now been homogenized .

So Apparently PTP wasn’t a fan of his subpar defense. Which makes no sense since both Ward and Adell are Gold Glove Centerfielders.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

I don’t follow the logic….

“DON’T give Adell at bats and innings in CF so we can see about moving Trout to LF. Instead, get a guy we know can’t play in the field, so he’s a DH. But don’t DH him cause Ohtani. Thus the smart move is to claim the guy who fields and hits worse than Adell, who we know for an actual fact instead of a CoachDad fact can’t play CF… aaaannnnnddddd?”

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

It would be nice to put a few HR hitters into the mix. Plus his 40% K rate fits in well with our team profile.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Why? Are we already going through Marshy withdrawals?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

Yes. The passing on Franmil Reyes (DH) will haunt us like cold tendrils of distant heartbreak’s fog for years to come… just like the time our manager rested three good players for most of one game.

How do we fans survive the emotional trauma?

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago

Are the ten drills Makita or ryobi?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  DowningDude

Mandingo

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Pass on Franmil … Sign piecemeal

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

Good call. The rule was written to prevent football plays.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
1 year ago

2023 – Who has to be replaced? What Free Agent pitchers are worth the gamble/cost? (For instance, I don’t think we can take the chance on Rodon. We can’t miss and he’s too risky.) I think our only chance is if Arte breaks the threshold.

  1. Ward LF
  2. Trout CF
  3. Ohtani DH
  4. Rendon 3B
  5. Rengifo SS/2B
  6. Stassi C
  7. Walsh 1B
  8. Adell RF
  9. Fletcher SS/2B
Last edited 1 year ago by HalosFanForLife
MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

A pointless hypothetical because Arturo won’t break the 190. Instead, the Intern will be tasked with unsuccessfully with picking up aging rejects or Quad 4’s who don’t belong on contenders rosters.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

He was willing to sign cole which would of put them way above that 190.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Shhhhhh. That’s enough facts that go against the bitching for one day…..

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 year ago

Adell is a 4th OF on a competitive team.

I expect them to pursue a steady veteran either in trade (Ohtani) or free agency to shore that up.

Probably a higher end player who can cover 3B as well for the inevitable Rendon injury.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 year ago

we need a real SS, upgrade RF, and more depth.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I think we should change the name of this site to IThinkArteShouldBreaktheThreshold.com

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago

Break that Depends, ol Farty Arte!

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
1 year ago

I don’t. I mean I don’t think that. Hold on, I don’t think that’s right. I mean I do think that, but I don’t think we should do that. Okay, now I think that’s right. Or at least, I think you get what I think.

Wait, what were we thinking about again? Oh never mind, I’m just going to stop thinking now.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Need consistent production at 1st (Walsh traded), bookend outfielders (Ward is a 4th, Adell is not ready), SS (Rengifo elevated himself to UTL, cannot be sucked into this recent batting prowess) and a C (split time to gain more of the ABs).

Reality: This team needs a makeover, don’t run it back or everyone will be 4th place again. Likely Perry will settle with what he has and continue to proclaim, “I have faith in my guys. They’re great, working hard.” Perry cannot build out a squad, he has enough money to work with but the missteps continue.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Want to see how hard it is to hit in the Major Leagues? Open up yesterday’s box score and look at all the averages. It’s crazy.

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago

We finally found a team we’re evenly matched with. Unfortunately, they have a team batting average just a touch over 200. Wish we can play them every day – we’d be hovering around 500 if we played every game against them.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

This is the part that slays me, Oakland isn’t even trying and their roster is as good as our current roster, Trout and Ohtani excepted.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

Yes, but what fans they have are so much better than Angels fans. Good JuJu can’t be completely destroyed…. even by Billy Beane and his overlords.

By the way, fellow internet people, isn’t Beane like the uber POBO? Shouldn’t his incredibly not the same as a GM powers have kept all of this from happening?

Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Most Pobos are GMs, but it’s like a promotion with a higher title and pay. I thought you and I went over this with everyone?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jayman28

Sure, you and I get it with the whole POBO thing. I’m still waiting for any of the “DEMAND A POBO” crowd to esplain the difference (other than title/pay) between what a GM and POBO will do.

And even more powerful and obviously needed to help us fight off Arte… the Chief Baseball Officer. Ohhhhh…. shiney.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
1 year ago

I think melvin had just as much impact on the club as beane did.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Obviously you just don’t understand the totally epoch shattering difference that a POBO can make. Melvin is an empty husk. He just always has a POBO to breath life into him every morning.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 year ago

I’m pretty sure their POBO is alsp a GM. Maybe make Perry a POBO, maybe a shinier title and more pay will motivate him to do his job better, but what do I know?

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago

Yes, good point.

This is why I bemoan the fact that so many here have complained about Ward and have flat out given up on Walsh. If one does what you did and actually looks at the averages of other teams tops players Ward looks pretty damned good. Even Walsh is not far off alot of other top half of the order starters. Averages are down and runs are down. This is just what it is.

For example, up until like a week ago Jarren Duran of the Red Sox had been hitting leadoff for them for several months; his BA is .227 ! That is actually one point lower than Walsh.

We don’t have it as bad as some people think. That is why I do believe we can be good in 2023.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Can’t really get rid of Walsh if they don’t have a replacement (which they don’t). May be stuck with him since big Sonny is still a year and a half away from being ready.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jayman28

I don’t think they are going to be “stuck” with anything.

I look for Walsh to bounce back big next year. Right now what he needs more than anything is a day or two off. They have given it to Ward recently, why not Walsh ??

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

We Need a right handed platoon option. Unfortunately he now plays for Oakland.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yeah, since Walsh swings lefty I am not opposed to a platoon. In this scenario Walsh would get the majority of the starts. Expect that in 2023 he will be a much closer proximity to the Walsh of 2021.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

If you recall the Angels started 2022 with a platoon at first base with Duffy until Walshie finally broke out. Maybe he needs that kind of motivation. Whatever the answer is now, it ain’t Goose at First.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  JackFrost

Yeah. If they can get a corner OF/1B whose platoon splits compliment Walsh it would be great. Also could cost very little for the amount of good it does us.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

He could definitely use a couple days off. He also isn’t going anywhere either since he is their only option at first, there isn’t a free agent or anyone in the minors that can take his place. Finding a platoon partner may be ideal though, but fans were upset when they sat him against LHP.

Going forward, if they can find a platoon that can also be a 4th Ofer, then that would be the way to go.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Wasn’t walsh off recently with goose playing first?

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Modern day baseball. Not as thrilling as it used to be. Sit back and swing for the fences. Contact hitters are not held in high regard. Look at Benientendi, only 4 home runs but .300 average. People hammer him cuz he has no pop.

jefeRey14x
Member
1 year ago

Cheers for O’Hoppe. I hope he becomes our field general. And optioning Mustard is super cute. Love it.

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  jefeRey14x

He’s relishing the opportunity.

jefeRey14x
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Lol

benjiface
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

He’s playing ketchup, to be honest. Like most of our hitters

Jim Atkins
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  jefeRey14x

After all, Mustard has a pretty unsavory past. That little escapade in the library with the candlestick, for example.

jefeRey14x
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Haha, Colonel Mustard! I thought it was the billiard room with the lead pipe…

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Plus he’s really Mean.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

always shouts out something obscene
such a dirty old man

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  jefeRey14x

Only one thing missing…Mayo!!!

I just committed hot dog heresy!!

Mayo and Catsup are batting 1000.

tommyshalo
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  jefeRey14x

Mustard is optional indeed.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  jefeRey14x

mustard couldn’t cut the mustard?

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Maybe he was cutting the cheese