Wins are a stupid pitching stat. It relies on your offense and bullpen to not suck. Sure, maybe it made slightly more sense when everyone had complete games and had a 4 man rotation. But in modern baseball? Nah.
This is relevant since Patrick Sandoval is being Felix Hernandez-ed, or Dave Stieb-ed in 2022. He has received no run support start after start after start.
It included today, going 6 and a third innings allowing just 1 run on 5 hits, striking out 10 and walking 2. Not only was he not in line for a win, he was in line for a loss due to the Angels offense being incompetent again.
By the time Sandy left, the Angels were losing 1-0. It was a pathetic offensive display, squandering opportunity after opportunity inning after inning.
Phil Nevin’s son, Tyler, played 3rd base for Baltimore, being personally responsible for a failed Angels offensive inning and being on a more successful team than his dad.
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Nevin and Nevin hugged before the game.
It was a pitching duel, one that Baltimore struck first with an RBI hit in the 4th.
The Angels had chances inning after inning, yet squandered them. Like marsh getting thrown out in the 5th.
Patrick Sandoval struck out 10. It was the only good thing today.
The Angels lose, again. Shutout 1-0 in Baltimore. Pathetic.
Per FanGraphs, since May 15th thru July 9th (50 games), Angels have 4th worst WAR, 3rd worst OBP, 3rd worse avg, 4th worst SLG, & 2nd worst in runs. The fact that Perry has let this happen for about 2 months without getting a better bat in there is a joke. I blame the whole org watching this ship sink and rearranging the deck chairs. I mean you can’t expect Trout, Ohtani, and Ward to carry them. Stassi and Walsh are not playing as well as last year and Fletch has been out. Yeah the bullpen has made mistakes but seriously how the eff are you going to win scoring 3.28 runs per game in the last 50? Now also consider the quality of opponents in the last 50 games. I hope the folks in the front office wake up and make some serious moves.
good points.
it’s baffling….
Can’t agree more. My opinions to a tee. I’m not talking an all star bat but you cannot tell me he could not make an early aggressive move to shore up a couple of positions when it became clear. Even if it costs you future talent. To let another season go by is pathetic. Now, it’s too late. The worst thing he can do now is to be hopeful in 2022 like he was when holding onto Iglesias last year at the deadline. Trade for 2023 and beyond. If he cannot do this, get rid of him.
what “better bat” do you want right now? and you expect anyone coming in to make a positive impact? expect any asset coming in to drop about 20% of their previous production as a given with our toxic organization.
Agree. It’s not like decent players are just out there ready to come play for the Angels. These comments underscores one of the problems. The team has nothing in reserves. There is no farm to speak of. So where is Perry expected to find players to fill the holes?
Decent players who don’t hit into DP. Spots 6-9 are beyond horrible. You need to hit or get on base. That puts pressure on the opposing pitcher. But by not having guys who suck bunched up, it allows starters to get in a groove and their relievers to not be taxed. Their are non Allstars out there who don’t hit under 200. fyi spots 6-9 batting avg RISP since May 15th, .173!
Why don’t the Halos have a website? Because they can’t get 3 Ws.
Arte just doesn’t want to pay to host a winning website.
http://www.artemorenothoughts.gov.www\artemorenothoughts
Link doesn’t work, just like Arte’s ownership style
Creed thoughts was probably of higher intelligence
JEREMY REED MORE LIKE JEREMY WEEEEEEEEEED amirite ??
seriously tho they need to hire a coach that can teach these children how to hit gooder. im not sure who that is but its not Jeremy WEEEEEEEEEEEEEED.
Where’s the thumbs down icon?
flag it, BRENT.
he’s living brent-free in your head. 😛
Living in a van down by the river!
They either need to pick up IFs like Drury and Happ in the next week, or sell off. If they don’t make a massive shakeup now, there is no chance that we get anywhere near the WC.
Have to sell off… ten games under now and about to embark on possibly the toughest stretch any team in the league has this year going against the Astros, Dodgers, and then the Braves. If they’re not 20 games under .500 by the end of it, they’ll be damn close to it.
Agree with Brent. Too late, trade Thor, Ward, Lorenzen, Walsh, and Arte.
I thought we were 7 games out. That’s not insurmountable given a strong run. Just incredibly unlikely. TBH before I checked I thought we were like 11-12 out.
https://twitter.com/NathanSRuiz/status/1545892091150192640?s=20&t=huoPL_xVus9aInJLxFxPlw
Wonder if that’d happen if Trout and Ohtani weren’t the opponent.
Yeah, Troutani is part of it, but probably the bigger part is that the last two games were promotions/giveaways and most importantly they have been playing well lately!
Playing well? Hmm what’s that like??
https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1545952482387378178?s=20&t=HTovTmxV1dsxXMpkbMoLMw
Mirage. Trade him.
Ahhhh, I see, Senator John….. You are a contrarian….. born to simply disagree with whatever is presented to you without regard to logic or factual evidence.
Trade Jeremiah Jackson……?
Perhaps not the smartest move in the playbook of those with some compelling reason….
Hey Ross you might want to trade for a flashlight to help find your way out of the Senator’s deep dark Chasm of Sar
Bingo
Nice trade piece per TBW.
Are we kidding ourselves? Where is the will to fight and scrap for a win? Actually how about scrap for a run? Did we give up? Been a fan since 8, damn tired of seeing and witnessing a potential winning team become the most worsed in a matter of a couple months! Yeah there’s injuries, yeah there’s drama in the dug out, yeah crap happens! But Angels, for the love of God! Start looking like you guys want to win! Start having the iron drive to win! Start giving a shit about winning period! I hate mentioning the Yankees. But Gosh damn, they’re on a terror act of winning again just about every other year! Why can’t the Angels be this way? Peeps don’t have to comment. I hope some players read this!
Another powerhouse offensive day for the Halos…..
Go Halos!!
VERY creative, thank you!! Refreshing to see 💯💯
Just second to your free blow pens(
Reid Detmers vs. Balt: 6.0, 2 hits, 0 ERs, 7 Ks, 1 walk: Angels lose.
Patrick Sandoval vs. Balt: 6.1, 5 hits, 1 ER, 10 Ks, 2 walks: Angels lose.
This seems to be close to the definition of hell to me.
My take on hell on earth
Elmo…. I wonder if he can hit….
I’m pleased these arms are progressing nicely. Angels are not going anywhere this year with this lineup but nice we have Ohtani, Sandy and Reid pitching the types of games that teams usually wins.
It did, just from the highlights I skipped through, look like Reid’s “we fixed my slider” take was pretty spot on. This actually encourages me a lot. Pitcher comes up. Pitcher has obvious obstacle to regular success. Pitcher goes to AAA. Coaches have a plan. Pitcher follows plan. Pitcher comes back to Angels. Pitcher looks improved. Huzzah.
Sleep took precedence and I slept like a baby. Checked the score first thing and then who struck out player by player. Such is the life of this Angels fan. This was also a lot more enjoyable than putting off sleep and closing my eyes with something like that type of loss spinning around in my head. Sandoval deserved better from the looks of it. 🤷♂️ Go sleep! I say.
Took the kids and dog to dog beach and then came back for a water balloon fight. Going to all Ohtani pitching home games, watching the road ones. Causally paying attention otherwise
That’s a very good strategy you have there. 👍
You mean, when you enjoy a game you watch, when it’s not fun for you you do something else that is? Heartless bastard, obviously. It’s like you watching something for entertainment is all about you or something.
I watched Ireland beat NZ for the first time ever in NZ last night (117 year playing history between the two). I was at the 2016 Chicago match vs Ireland where they beat them for the first time ever.
All that is to say… Was I a bit gutted the team I was rooting for didn’t win (who likes wasting time, effort, energy, money)? Yes. I have a deep connection to Ireland too, I’d just prefer them beat England, wales, etc. So is the life of sport. Communities like this help find the humor in certain things… and as always, misery loves company!
I worked at Frys Electronics for a little bit before I started teaching. Everyone in So Cal I’m sure knows Frys in the 90’s was the place to go for electronics. But then they started thinking they were smarter than everyone else. They started promoting almost entirely from within regardless of if their promotions had any of the prerequisite knowledge for their new positions. They got away from standard business practices, like making sure that your buyers actually are working in your companies best interests and not their own. What they thought was saving them a small percentage was in fact one of the biggest reasons they wound up bankrupt.
Why do I mention this in an Angels group? Arte did the same exact thing. He had some success. His team was clearly the best in the AL West and then he thought he was smarter than everyone. I know let’s hire a guy that started as an intern to be the GM even though literally EVERYONE knows he doesn’t have the prerequisite skills. It saved Arte some money, but then I really think that was the start of the fall of the Angels under Arte. Their GM is late to the winter meetings and doesn’t sign Beltre who wanted to sign here, instead they have money later to sign Pujols. Tell me there isn’t some alternate reality where Arte stays the course, hires people that he knows to be competent in matters relating to baseball and the Angels have 3 WS Titles since 2002.
Instead they wound up always trying to get out of the hole that was created and never quite being able to do it because again, Arte thinks he is also a professional MLB GM instead of just the guy providing the powder to fund the whole thing.
They should’ve just kept kendrys and called it a day.
Arte is clueless, how did he get the Job of Owner and POBO? 😀
That’s a really cool story in regards to Fry’s and you make some real sense there. I used to love reading those Fry’s ads. 😒
Really well put together post, thanks for sharing!
So, are you now the CTPG judge and jury who is validating or rejecting the competency and/or legitimacy of every comment/post ????
I’m trying to positively support what I’d like to see more of. Asking questions is ok. I’ll answer them.
To get to the other side? No?
I’ll go back to the Anglo-Zanzibar war of 1896, which lasted 45 minutes. I’ll let you guess who won. Spoiler Alert: the Angels are ZANZIBAR!
I mean…who knew? Amirite?
Why no, no I’m not entertained Angels!
Funny thing, we probably win the last two games if they hadn’t changed the outfield walls. Not saying that it’s unfair, both teams hit in the same stadium after all, but it definitely hosed us this series.
One hell of a pitching performance. Fire the pitching coach!
Wrote a bunch of posts and deleted all/most of them. The negativity and whininess, even coming from myself, made them unbearable. That’s all I’m going to say.
Let me know if you have a creative/fun way to express it and I’ll do my best to incorporate a gif, imgur or something that makes us laugh… even in misery
I hear ya, h27kim. We’re all taking to same harrowing fan-of-a-terrible-team journey into the Land of Sheer Suck.
If there are designated levels for this, I’ve gotta think we’re either in or approaching Baseball Fan Job-Level…and I can almost…palpate…what’s this? A boil? FUCK!
could be worse … i could still be on the payroll
(wink, wink)
Which face is more punchable between hamilton and this (in a rhetorical sense)?
don’t know who this is
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/14/1073161736/pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-barred
Sorry I thought Martin Shkreli (guy who hiked the price of a super affordable AIDS Med by an absurd %) was the most well known public figure of punchable faces
yes, very punchable.
More than Pauley Shore!
If anyone needs a reminder a third entrant has arrived 😉
Let’s make it a true quandary and pit Hamilton against Shkreli and Jared Kushner.
For me, the choice would be so difficult I’d wheel around and just punch one of the Kardashians – probably the mom, whatever the eff her name is – who were all standing there watching to see who’d get punched.
We can move to a marry, f#€k, kill version of something 😉
We are troubled by the discussion of face punching, particularly when women get brought up. Stop it now!
And you think you are the only one doing this? 😄
I am the same way usually so I don’t post very much. Good discipline there. Better to be limiting the negativity. 👍
Well our negativity did get the Angels to get rid of their horrible PBP to start the year. So negativity can’t be all bad.
Power move.
Sure, it’s very easy to look at, say, what the MFY fans must be enjoying, neurobiologically speaking.
Me? I watch a lot of games, and when a guy has two strikes on him and slaps one the opposite way for a base hit, I feel increasingly Othello-like levels of envy course through my cells.
I half-expect to read, a year from now or so, that the Angels didn’t even address trying to go oppo because they thought Manfred was going to outlaw the Shift anyways.
We’re all just completely apathetic right now, right?
So apathetic I can actually see and feel the humor that the rest of the league must have when watching us.
Oregon Ducks moving outta Pac12 too.
I can’t help but imagine that Joe Maddon has had a nice, quiet, relaxing Saturday afternoon.
shuffleboard can be very stressful you know.
I picture Joe as a Bocce ball kind of guy
That looks fun!!
Can’t wait for tomorrows game where MarineLayer, Cowboy26 and whoever else can just ad nauseam go over how ever player will fail, what coach is terrible at their job and shouldn’t have it, etc. Its SO (/s) enlightening. If the Angels just listened to you guys WE all (including Arte) would be better off!!
There’s complaining about all the above, which I do, then there’s what the characters (👆🏻) do game in/out. Be creative, find a new way to make fun of the same players, coaches, team, owner, even me!! I’ve given you plenty of examples. Your comments aren’t entertaining to me at this point (stale) and on the back of the entire staff/site asking us to be better, please just give a little more even if it’s on the negative end. A bunch of Ks for our offense, sounds like an awesome topic… maybe pick your favorite comedian, show, song or whatever and make fun of our offense in a new (unique to you) way. Just like my opinion. Not like you’re here for my entertainment but wanna just try something different?
For something different, how about we come up with songs that sum up the first half of the season….
My entry would be Stealer Wheels “Stuck in the Middle With You”
Clowns to the left of me
Jokers to the right
Brilliant and love it ‘71, thank you!!
Always a great song.Plus effective use of the cowbell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln7Vn_WKkWU
Quasi-coincidental: as I was showering, and my mind wanders oddly always while in there, I had the thought: how have the Angels been, musically? And I had a few thoughts, but the one that stuck was: it’s like someone locked you in a room and put on “1-877-KARS4KIDs” on infinite repeat.
And when Iglesias (who’s dead to me, BTW), gave up 3 with 2 outs in Baltimore to lose in a walk-off: the volume on that tune became DEAFENING!
Ha! Now THAT is a nightmare 😂
“714 Tickets” jingle anyone?
The sight of this picture hurts my ears
Obvi for a great cause (I’d hope most the money goes to the people who are supposed to get it at least) and effective in that I’ve heard that jingle be the least liked by more than one person. Thank you for that contribution salmon!
Ha!!
I can’t reach for the mute fast enough
If I played for the Angels, I’d pick this as my walk up song…….then I’d K on 4 pitches and walk back to the dugout with my head down.
We might have contender for worst intro song… nickelback or 1877kars4kids 🤦🏼♂️
Was just looking at this again. Unbelievable that it’s all White kids except for the Black one on the bass!
Have you seen this episode?? Trey Parker and Matt Stone are on another level!
https://youtu.be/VvUsFQbWZFs
Freddy Fender
Wasted Days and Wasted Nights
That’s a good one!
Love it Max, thank you!!
Now THAT is a head of hair!!
Remember when you were the MVP
And I got on my knees
And begged you not to strikeout
Because I’d go beserk
Well you left runners in scoring position anyhow
And then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I’ve gone
Completely out of my mind
And they’re coming to take me away ha-haaa
They’re coming to take me away ho ho hee hee ha haaa
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I’ll be happy to see those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they’re coming to take me away ha haaa
You thought it was a joke
And so you laughed
You laughed when I said
That losing games would make me flip my lid
Right? You know you laughed
I heard you laugh. You laughed
You laughed and laughed and then you left
But now you know I’m utterly mad
And they’re coming to take me away ha haaa
They’re coming to take me away ho ho hee hee ha haaa
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they’re coming to take me away ha haaa
I bought your jersey
I watched the games
And this is how you pay me back
For all my kind unselfish, loving deeds
Ha! Well you just wait
They’ll find you yet and when they do
They’ll put you in the A.S.P.C.A.
You mangy mutt
And they’re coming to take me away ha haaa
They’re coming to take me away ha haaa ho ho hee hee
To the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time
And I’ll be happy to see those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they’re coming to take me away
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they’re coming to take me away ha haaa!
Love it! Napoleon XIV – “They’re Coming to Take Me Away Ha Ha.”
Damn senator!
Dude what is your problem? seriously. Your fixation on me and ML just because we decided to push back on your asinine non angel related comments is completely unhealthy.
Oh and by the way, why don’t you go back and look at the totality of all my comments on this site before you claim that I just go on”... ad nauseam go over how ever (sic) player will fail, what coach is terrible at their job and shouldn’t have it, etc. ..“ just unsubstantiated bull shit. And when I say something negative about a player, coach or the team its buttressed by statistics to prove my point .
So please leave me out of your diatribe. It just makes you sound like someone with a paper asshole.
Please fill out this form completely
funny
Thanks Cowboy, I was too GA to write my own response.
Statistics to prove my point… have taken statistics in college I remember what the professor said day one, minute one
And what data is being cherry picked? You would have to actually be able to comprehend a post for you to try to declare that the data was cherry picked. So come on 2020 , what post are you referring to?
Waiting….
I’m referring to the overall concept of statistics… which you said you like to use in your butts dress? I dunno, you’re kinda all over the place. The attachment that pops up without having to click a link explains it all (kind of like Clarissa)
Don’t like a players numbers lately? Well let’s change it day/night game, vs LHP, in the sun, during a full moon and on and on. If you love that stuff, good for you. Fools gold to me.
Hope I didn’t keep you waiting long. Please feel free to use a gif like this in the future if you so desire cupcake
I will literally spell out any joke, insinuations or whatever else to you because you’re obvi struggling and too dense to understand it, an attempt at making light of any situation or whatever else doesn’t compute
(To those not up to date cowboy has called me a “dumb dick loser” “troll little bitch” and few other not even creative elementary school names today alone)… if any of y’all know him maybe drop a line to see if everything in his life is a’ight
Ooohh did I offend you?? It sounds like you really need to go fill out your little hurt feelings report and see if anyone really cares . Or better yet take those bad feelings and incorporate them into a gif, imgur or something that makes us laugh. Here I’ll start:
And you can go on and on about some irrelevant football team.
Like the haka (which I’m sure you don’t understand, respect, or care about because it doesn’t revolve around you) I’m challenging you and cowboy to up your game around here. Same old sorry ass shit (bet that sounds familiar). Like it or don’t, up to you.
Same old sorry ass shit? What are you talking about?
The only “same old sorry ass shit” is the worthless garbage you post with no discernible point made.Try for once to actually make a discernible point yourself before you declare anything I said to be stale or negative.
Oh and BTW Challenge accepted. of course since you’ve never been capable of comprehending anything ML or I post how are you going to know if our game has been upgraded?
Last one for the night toots
https://youtu.be/li9TegMdYso
Soooo loooong
Dude we know there is nothing in your head so I’m sure you could rent it out for extra cash. .
Your tired old niners rerun video would actually be impactful if it wasn’t so ironic. Was that the 49ers sideline saying farewell after they collapsed in the fourth quarter in the NFC championship game? It sure looks that way.
Go Angels! All hail the SB champion rams
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ