June 20th brought the return of Junk, Janson Junk that is. Kenny Rosenberg was optioned to triple A as was Reid Detmers. Jimmy Herget went to the injured list. Fans traded souvenir balls in the outfield seats.
CBD companies may soon be able to advertise on MLB games and patches on jerseys. They just have to get certified that there is not too much THC in their product and get approval of the Commissioner’s office.
The Blue Jays hitting coach, Guillermo Martinez, brought out their lineup card on Tuesday and got himself ejected before the game even began.
Max Fried won his arbitration hearing against the Braves while the Marlins won their arbitration hearing against Jacob Stallings.
The Mets might soon get Max Scherzer and Jacob deGrom back, but Tylor Megill will be out for a while. The Giants got Anthony DeSclafani back.
The Athletics designated infielder Matt Davidson for assignment.
The White Sox seem to be snake bit on the injury front, not literally but you know what I mean.
Photo credit: Rex Fregosi
$720K+8M=$8,720M=17-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👈
Meanwhile Noah Syndergaard makes $21M=4-6 👈 ………..Nice f**king shitty job~~~
😡 😠 💩 💩 😢 Anymore stupid moves we can make?
Yes. we can continue to read your nonsensical blathering.
Yes we can!
Sí, Se Puede!
Did you advocate for signing them in the offseason?
and in petty news, Pujols .196
That’s about double what I expected
At first, I thought this was going to be a NASCAR post.
But if you look at GPa’s RHP Splits he would be closer to your expectations. ’71. His Average against Righties is .126 and an OPS of .496. Those are very Squidish numbers.
So what’s your point?
We knew what he is going into this season……UBBELIWAVABLE!
I’d wager a big factor in his divorce is that his wife wanted him to retire and spend more time helping out with the kids, especially since he was sick. But he wanted to keep playing ball, for what exactly — to pad a few counting stats while disappointing the Cardinal fans that used to love him?
Don’t give a damm about him anymore………last time I checked, he hasn’t played for us since May 2021. NEITHER SHOULD YOU……
Give a damn about you tootsy? I would concur.
He makes up for it defensively.
From a no hitter to being optioned down in a little over a month.
I really believed that game would have given him the confidence in his stuff to become a steady pitcher. He went the opposite direction.
How he responds to this will be very telling.
A’ss Montas no hitter thru 7 against Jerry’s kids
Well that didn’t end well for him.
A guy we should’ve pursued
But now I’m supposed hate everything THE OLIGARCH doesn’t want us to have.
Thought one – will Arte be willing to increase payroll by approximately $45m (to around $235 million) per year to keep Ohtani?
Related to thought one – does losing the stadium deal make Arte’s increasing of payroll more or less likely.
Thought two – if the answer to one is ‘no’, the budget stays at approximately $190 million, then how possibly could the team afford Trout, Ohtani and Rendon?
Related to thought two – Trout and Rendon are essentially untradeable.
With that thought tree – I guess it all comes down to Arte as it always does.
Reply thought to thought one: Is $235M-117M=$118M for 5 starters our entire bullpen, 6 starting position players, our bench and the rest of the 40 man roster staff going to be enough to competitively field a team going forward? If $235M is not enough to effectively build a MLB roster so Arte should find someone who will spend this kind of money.
Jeff Fletcher had a great article in the OC Register looking at the overall team numbers. Its a great read if you can get behind enemy lines. Here’s the linky: https://www.ocregister.com/2022/06/23/whats-wrong-with-the-angels-a-look-inside-the-numbers/
One interesting excerpt which should not be as shocking as water is wet:
The bottom of the order has been a black holeThe Angels’ bottom four spots in the order have combined for a .549 OPS and a .296 slugging percentage, which are both the worst in the majors by a wide margin.
By contrast, the top five spots have an .820 OPS (2nd) and .476 slugging percentage (2nd).
So the bottom line is Perry gambled and lost big time on over a 1/3 of the starting line up. Unlike his predecessors that gambled more on starting pitching, our entire season hangs in the balance because of these rejects and retreads and not necessarily because of our pitching for once.
the SPing still sucks too
See Reid Detmers after May 12, IWINAGAIN……AWEEZ DO!!
💪 💪 💪 👈
Don’t go away mad. Just go away.
wahhhhhhh
What did you win? I’m lost…
That has been an issue for over a month and McKinnon is a different type of hitter, but he plays 1B. It’s on Perry. I like Jon Berti or Kyle Farmer as guys who could fill in where they suck
I’ll be watching Dune again tonight. Good filler for the off day 🤘
Solid movie. I’d alss as I recommend the Dune audiobook if you’ve got drive time to contend with. Huge cast of voice actors and very well done.
Thanks
https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1539676600077144064?s=20&t=byXehQs3r8MAaE7phNh_4A
I was watching game three of the 2002 ALDS yesterday and Joe Morgan sounded like he was about to cry when the Angels took the lead in the eighth. What a dick
Don’t speak ill of the dead….but Joe always was a “homer” for Dusty.
ALDS was vs the MFY.
Thanks for the reminder….my bad!
So did all the MF Yankee fans in attendance . That game was epic
Game four was one of the funnest games ever.
Game 3 was intense but even when we were down 6-1 in the 3rd inning you always knew we would come back
cuda440 was cursing and demanding a blowup.
It was like that team could strike lightening at the exact time they needed to.
Yup, even when they were down 2-3 runs in the 7th, you just knew they’d put together a rally and the pen would hold fast once the lead was taken.
This team is the exact opposite.
I was there! The Yankee fans around us were good sports about everything
The last two games make me think Ohtani is really sick of losing. What a performance.
This was a pretty funny game to play.
https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1539697304319381504
I’ll go next: Holston Franks.
Dumont Lockwood
Doesn’t work if you have a George Costanza numbered street name…..Seven
You sure you’re not confusing him with a running back from USC?
Everett Borthwick
Castle Rock Ray
Dolonita Decker, lol
Sounds like a cheap prostitute…
Cheap? I prefer the term “budget friendly”!
Daines Evans
TBW should know that those sort of things are phish attempts.
Peach Williams
E. Chitty.
A teacher with the last name Chitty? Oh I’m sure that was fun
Bang Bang
Oh yes, the recess talk was something else.
I bet Goathill Tavern saw some patrons they hadn’t seen in quite some time. Bet not a bottle of Bud Light remains this morning. 😀
I gave Speez my number so as to not drive tipsy but he never called me. Love ya, dude.
Speez says he ain’t drinking anymore. But obviously he hasn’t been missing any meals.
hahahah. Buffet master.
What’s he up to nowadays? Working full time? Still doing the sand frog thing?
I was hoping Patty & Mark would ask him but they never did.
I watched the replay – man … Gubie had a case of the giggles last night. 😂😂😂😂😂
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/scott-spiezio-now-sober-sharing-life-lessons-in-retirement-on-farm-near-chicago/article_6d5349e3-aecf-5266-a5f3-86e7a0623bf7.html
Performances from the past two nights are the reasons why it’s so hard to really quantify Ohtani’s value when it comes to giving him a new contract. Apparently, he added a full +1 WAR just based on the last two games alone.
Allegedly his baseline was the Max Scherzer contract. Is it only because it’s the largest contract right now? If the baseline is Scherzer, then does that mean that only covers the pitching part? How about the hitting part? How do you really value a player who pitches like Scherzer and who hits like Judge?
Oh, and it seems Ohtani can carry a team just fine. He did it last night, similar to how he carried the team against Boston on June 9 that finally ended the Angels’ nightmarish 14-game losing streak. He did it last night WITH a scrub lineup. It seems he’s at his best carrying the team when he’s both pitching and hitting, not only when he’s hitting.
Great comments.
Ohtani’s agent presented his contract extension hopes at 43 Mil – Scherzer money as someone else on the board called it.
Imagine if a team could get Ohtani for 43 Mil for only 5 – 6 years – this would be a huge bargain. The contract would end when Ohtani reaches 32 or 33 when he is still in his prime.
I don’t think the Sho is looking to be baseball’s highest paid player. What is more important to him is BASEBALL, baseball tradition, baseball lore, his legacy, playing baseball the right way and winning, and being honorable and humble in the process.
Shohei wants to be on a team that matches his values and aspirations. I think he’d take less money to be on the right team.
The reality is that there are probably teams out there who may pay more than 43 Mil and longer than 5 -6 years for the Sho. This puts a lot of pressure on the Angels with Rendon and Trout on the books.
I see Ohtani going to the Mets, or the Yankees, and playing for Buck S and returning to the man who got him on the Angels, Billy Eppler. The Mets would probably pay top dollar for him.
That would be a great deal for the team. And for a team like the Mets, Dodgers, or Yankees still allow them to build a quality 40 man roster.
But the math gets really bad here quickly.
Arte’s payroll limit: $190 million – $43 million for Ohtani – $38.5 million for Rendon – $371 million for Trout = $71.4 million for everybody else.
Of that $71.4 million, for the next two years Fletcher gets $6 million, Iglesias gets $16 million for 3 years so that gets us down to about $49 million to spread around the other 21 active players and round out the 40 man roster.
I wonder what the likely killed “stadium deal” will mean going forward…
Do we lose him because of that? Was Arte looking at recouping some of his possible extension years down the road with that deal?
Great question
While I have no actual idea, that’s never stopped me from throwing out ideas before.
Idea #1: as Arte’s white whale is no longer in the net he sits on his cash waiting to see if he can still buy the property.
Idea #2: Arte realizes the stadium deal is years away and decides to spend some of the cash he’d set aside for the stadium deal.
Of the two, I’d greatly favor idea #1.
Exactly, Jeff, the numbers don’t work out.
However, as an Angels fan we can hope that one of two things happen:
1) Arte spends more. If his is going to market the Angels as an “LA” team, then it makes sense for him to spend on a par with the Dodgers.
2) Shohei takes less money. If Arte presents a plan to make the Angels more competitive and offers Shohei an incentive-laden contract, I can definitely see him taking less money.
Keeping The Sho is good for Arte Moreno and is good for Angels fans.
Frankly, I don’t think this will happen. So, your idea to trade him may be the Halos best option if/when it’s clear they have no chance at making the playoffs this year.
Trading Shohei to the Dodgers or Mets would be a stigma or the Angels that will be worse than the Bambino’s Curse…..
As the budget stands today with no changes, Ohtani is already looking at a big raise next year and J-Up coming off the payroll, I believe Upton’s 28 mm and Ohtani’s current 5.5 mm would put him 10 mm short of the 43 mm. So if there are no other changes besides arb salaries the payroll will need at least a 15 mm boost. It could be more depending on other possible upgrades or it could be less if an Ohtani contract could be backloaded
Thor costs $25 million. There’s an easy way to keep Ohtani. Of course the team gets worse under that scenario.
Exactly. There’s been lots of failures to get the franchise to this point, but none greater than the farm system not developing MLB talent.
Arte is not taking payroll to $250M, so the only way to keep two superstars and one stupid contract is for the farm system to churn out low cost MLB players. Which is why if the team keeps Ohtani and Trout, the last three years will mirror the next 5+ years.
Which brings me back to the 2021 draft.
The Angels constantly spend to fill 2 rotation spots and 2 bullpen spots each off season. Sometimes more. Thor, Lorenzen, Quijada, Teheran, Cody Allen, Matt Harvey, etc.
Makes me think Perry is trying to pull off a completely, or nearly completely, homegrown pitching staff for the last couple of years of Rendon’s deal. One in which Iglesias is likely the highest paid pure pitcher on the team.
It is a huge gamble, but after next year Loup and Tepera’s combined $14 million falls off the books. After this year Thor’s $25 million falls off the books. There’s $39 million.
But unless several of Bachman, Bush, Silseth, Murphy and the crew turn into good MLB pieces, the plan goes to hell quickly.
Dunno. We’ll have to figure that out if he ever pitches like Scherzer and hits like Judge for a full season.
2021 Stats:
Ohtani – .257/.372/.592/.964, 46 HRs, 100 RBIs, 138 total hits, 158 games played
Judge -.287/.373/.544/.917, 39 HRs, 98 RBIs, 158 total hits, 148 games played
Ohtani – 3.18 ERA, .207 BA, 1.01 WHIP, 156 Ks, 130.1 IP
Scherzer – 2.46 ERA, .185 BA, .86 WHIP, 236 Ks, 179.1 IP
It is utterly insane for a guy playing in Angels Stadium and the AL West to outslug a guy playing in the Bronx Bandbox and the AL East.
And we also have Trout who has done it consistently.
They removed three men from roster and seem to have added only one. Who are the other two?
I think that would be Oliver Ortega and Elvis Peguero.
Anyone have anything specific as to why Trout was not in the lineup last night?
No, but it seems to be a pattern they give him an off day before a day off. I’m assuming they don’t want him to reaggravate injuries. It’s why he has completely stopped running although he could easily still steal 20 bags.
Nevin said that he was sore from the groin strain and had played several games in a row including the double-header in Seattle. Thus the day off combined with today gives him a two day rest.
Makes sense. Thanks.
That makes me so angry. How dare they rest our best players who also always falls apart late in the season!
Someone had to answer the bell when Tony needed a drink…..
I saw drink and Tony and thought “why’s he talking about Larussa?” 😂
Last night was a night sorely needed by Angels fans, the night after 8 RBI. There is once in a great when someone who changes the narrative of MLB, Cobb, Ruth, Gehrig, Robinson, Koufax, Gibson, Brock, Trout, Shohei, comes around to change the game for the better. Happy to enjoy this ride so far, and I’m sure he will provide a lot more.
Preach it from the Pulpit, Grandpa,
I hear you……
Love you Shohei
Not sure how I feel about CBD involvement with MLB. I am very against sports betting being promoted by MLB, so the CBD thing is in the same category for me. I realize there are a number of known medical uses but CBD, but many players have been suspended for use of marijuana, how do we know they did not use it for “medicinal” purposes? Seems hypocritical to me.
But Manfred seems to be all about money and little about baseball. No matter how they spin it the young teen players will see MLBs involvement with gambling and CBD and think it is ok to gamble and smoke pot. They say pot does not lead to harder drugs, but in my experiences with multiple individuals, that was not the case.
That’s my 2 cents worth. Please go easy if you disagree, I am just expressing my opinion. I am getting to be an old man who says what he wants. Oh and stay off of my grass!
BUT GIVE ME ALL THE BOOZE 🍾🥂🍻🍷🍺🥃🍸🍹🍶 oh I thought we were talking about hypocrisy LOL
When you drink booze, only you are drinking booze. When you smoke pot, everyone around you is smoking pot, whether they want to or not, including kids.
That is a huge difference.
Every alcoholic I know turns into an asshole or a loud idiot making it everyone’s issue.
That’s a non sequitur. Alcoholism is a different issue entirely.
Who smokes CBD?
Yay someone smart entered the board!
CBD is not smoked, and it doesn’t contain THC, as far as I know.
CBD products may or may not contain THC. The linked article indicates advertisers would have to sell products that do not have psychoactive levels of THC.
A google search for “do you smoke CBD products” reveals the answer to be “some of them.”
OK. Who smokes CBDs instead of just buying some weed? And who buys CBDs to get high when they can just buy edibles and get high? And also, f*** the children and people who use them as rhetorical ballast out of hand.
And the Dutch. F*** the Dutch….. and their CBDs.
This is like when you are around, do make everyone else around more stupid (stupider in your terms)? Because this makes zero sense. We’re talking about angels games on an angels site (no smoking allowed at the Big A) but plenty of BOOZE (wasn’t arte’s first big marketing ploy to lower beer prices, in one section of the hardest to reach part of the park)? What… a… joke. Always down for a laugh so thanks
I think he meant you can get a “contact high” from being around people smoking marijuana. Whereas you cannot get a “contact buzz” from people drinking around you. Lemme know if I got it wrong …
That’s correct, but it takes alot of weed and a small room with zero ventilation.
Been to plenty of concerts where there’s a cloud of CBD’s and THC’s and such floating like a hazy UFO over the floor seats yet I somehow seem to not get even a smidge of a contact high.
But right next to me 2 drunk guys are brawling it out, being separated by 20 security people.
Don’t get contact highs from booze. Do get contact with loud, obnoxious people. Contact from fights that break out. Contact when their cars hit you, etc.
I hate to the be sober guy who craps on booze, but really. I’d 10 times rather be around some folks who ate a gummy or smoked a joint than a group on their 8th round of cocktails.
You don’t smoke CBD. In most cases CBD doesn’t even get you high…. see the definition of THC limit.
Take a gummi. Solved your problem.
I have no issues with anyone who uses CBD, marijuana use if you want is fine, but why does gambling and CBD use infiltrate MLB and MiLB and expose youth to these harmful items? MONEY, “SHOW ME THE MONEY”. Selig looked the other way while PED’s ruined MLB for years because of money. And that spineless slug is in the HoF. Hard liquor advertising has bothered me for years. Beer advertising never made me want to drink beer, but maybe it did. Smoking and Tabacco use involvement in MLB with advertising introduce me to smoking? Again, I am not sure. It really would better to keep some things out of MLB no matter the cost.
I do not care for Manfred and the way he leads baseball. I do not trust him at all.
My wife recently had routine blood labs and CBD was indicated.
She uses CBD lotions on her hands for arthritis…don’t get old!!
At the zero tolerance safety sensitive job I worked for 40 years.
YOU’RE FIRED!!!
Now if you had tested positive for CBD you’d know where that came from too.
Hubba Hubba!!
It makes sense but that is wild that a topical applied via lotion would show up in a blood test.
If it wasn’t able to be absorbed into the blood stream through the skin, it probably wouldn’t be very effective as a pain reliever for joint pain.
Although it might be surprising that it contains enough to show up in a blood test, I don’t know enough about blood tests to say.
Not that surprised. Just eating a poppy seed bagel can make you test positive for opioids.
I’d rather have the players smoking weed then getting pumped full of opioids.
Or PED’s.
100%
I also know so many stoners who have never touched a hard drug. That’s some old theory.
I was commenting from my experience only.
Gotcha.
CBD is the non psychoactive portion of the marijuana plant. Nobody smokes it. CBD is taken in pill or oil form.
It is really a natural form of Advil or Motrin but without the damaging effects to your kidneys and liver.
As far as actual weed, if it and alcohol were both discovered today the safer choice would be considered weed all day every day.
Ohtani knew the lineup was weak yesterday and he took that game over. Amazing performance. I also have to give Regnifo some credit, dude had a solid night in the 3 spot. I’m not interested in seeing him there a lot, but you have to give credit when it’s due. Apart from the first two batters, it was a fun game to watch.
So Papa Smurf’s problem is he’s been batting in the wrong lineup spot the whole time? Who knew?
Let’s have everyone bat 3rd at the same time. Such a move would give Nevin street cred.
Well, we could re-sign GA and have him bat all the other slots. Except he’s too lazy to do that.
If everyone was batting 3rd wouldn’t that also mean they’re all batting 9th?
Haha. Yeah, I doubt that. I wouldn’t count on consistent performances like that regardless of his spot in the lineup.