LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Positional Battle

Good morning Angels fans, how have you been? Enjoying Spring Training? Have some links!

Angels News

The Angels won yesterday, rocking the Rockies… like a hurricane. Let’s hope the team isn’t a one hit wonder.

No game today, it is an off day. Sigh

Seems like the opening day roster is still uncertain. 2B is a multi way battle as Fletcher seems to be the SS now.

First base is getting crowded, as not only is Justin Upton looking to play there, but so is Taylor Ward? Um, Walsh is still the guy at 1B, right?

Thor won’t be on an innings limit. Really seems like Maddon is all caution thrown out the window, huh.

Around Baseball

So, True Blue LA Via SB Nation Via Vox fired Blake Harris, the guy who also ran Halos Heaven after we were all fired. Which means that SB Nation really botched this whole revamp thing huh?

Trevor Bauer is now suing the Athletic for Defamation. Right, yeah, that won’t end well. He is not coming back any time soon, if at all.

Wait what, Cleveland is actually keeping Jose Ramirez? Is this real life?

Apple officially gets 12 straight weeks of doubleheader baseball. Yet another service to subscribe to…

Mets Season Tickets are really something special. Anyone know how the Angels compare?

City Connect schedule is here. The Angels are on it.

Evan Longoria is getting hand surgery. Ow.

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes!

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JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Ha ha ha. This is awesome.

red floyd
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Shinjo was on the 2002 SFG team that we beat in the World Series.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Yes, I believe he was the second to last out before we clinched. Percy struck him out.

red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Yes, he was. I remember that it was a deep shot to the outfield and I was worried it was going out.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

I was in RF View Level standing up. I was incredibly nervous when Percy put base runners on… But when he struck out Shinjo to make it two outs I knew he would do it. After that strike out I jumped in the air with my arms raised and shouted.

Last edited 8 months ago by JackFrost
red floyd
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

That’s right. The shot I was worried about wound up going foul. Thank you.

tommyshalo
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

The team is 0-5 since opening day and the haters are starting to go all over the place.

I actually have started rooting for this guy so that baseball can occasionally have this kind of fun.
My two boys who barely care about baseball, have asked to put baseball on TV for the first time to see Big Boss lol.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

A move like this could turn his pitching career into Overdrive.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Just so long as he doesn’t take a Turner for the worst.

red floyd
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Definitely if he keeps taking care of business.

MikeSalmon
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

You thought he had a blazing fastball? If he gets a good change, you know you know you know you know you just ain’t seen n-n-n-nothin’ yet.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

We definitely need him to be a starter, more than reliever
AND I’M TOTALLY WILLING TO WAIT IF THAT’S WHAT IT WILL TAKE!!!
Yes I’d rather have a 20 game winner more than a 50 game saver.
 💪  💪  💪  💪  👈 

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
8 months ago

amusing writeup about Albert today.

The headline: “Pujols singles in return to diamond with Cards”
The article: “In Pujols’ first at-bat against Nationals right-hander Aníbal Sánchez, the bases were loaded when Pujols grounded into a double play, though Dylan Carlson scored on the play to give St. Louis a 1-0 lead. An inning later, Pujols popped up to third baseman Maikel Franco with two runners on base.”

finally….”It was two innings later, with right-hander Austin Voth on the mound, when Pujols notched his first hit of the spring, singling to right field before being replaced by pinch-runner Mack Chambers”, for which he got a standing ovation.

in other news of interest, Seattle is supposedly looking to trade for Montas.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago

Same as it ever was.

red floyd
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

This is not my beautiful house!

Designerguy
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Where is that large automobile?

Twebur
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Designerguy

Letting Big Al’s contract go by, let the weight of his contract hold us down
Into the black again, after the money’s gone..
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was

2002heaven
Trusted Member
8 months ago

had a very productive first 4 yrs with us.
The 75 yr old Oligarch was at fault to anoint him with a 10 yr deal so that he could continue his quest for 700 hrs even if he was 100 yrs old and .101.

Twebur
Super Member
8 months ago

The 10 best bullpens in baseball, ranked
https://www.mlb.com/news/best-mlb-bullpens-2022

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2002heaven
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8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

#28 FARM SYSTEM IN MLB
The 75 yr old Oligarch/GM/POBO lives on!!!
 😣  😢  😩  😡 

Last edited 8 months ago by 2002heaven
2002heaven
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8 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Where’s V Stiviano when you need her?
 💪  💪  💪  👈 

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Speaking of the Clippers, Why can’t Arte be more like the new Owner?

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red floyd
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8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

He’s supposed to throw chairs… but then I guess Bobby Knight had that gig wrapped up.

Twebur
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8 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

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Jeff Joiner
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Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Perry was part of building a really strong bullpen in Atlanta. He seems to be doing the same here.

And with Luke Murphy and a couple other draftees from last year plus guys like Wantz and Buttrey, there could be a decent amount of depth developing.

Twebur
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Speaking of Buttrey….Update?
Not much news on him, haven’t seen him pitch.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

We exchanged texts early in spring training. He was happy to be back.

I know the Angels have 30 days to add him to the 40 man or release him. That should be up in another week or two.

ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’m rooting for him.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Bachman, Bush and Buttrey. Killer B’s.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

And Nathan Burns too?

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
8 months ago

Just talking some Baseball here. I think that our basic line up is really one of the best in the League right now.

Ohtani
Fletcher
Trout
Rendon
Walsh
Adell
Duffy/Mayfield
Stassi
Marsh.

Power-speed-OBP = Winning Line-up….. Maybe I am more than a little biased.

Looking good line-ups are Tampa Bay, Boston, Toronto. White Sox, Twins, Seattle, Asstros.

NL, Dodgers, Braves, Phillies, Brewers, Cards, Giants, and Padres.

Twebur
Super Member
8 months ago

or?

Ohtani
Marsh
Trout
Rendon
Walsh
Adell
Stassi
Duffy/Mayfield
Fletcher.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I don’t like Ohtani leading off on days he pitches. Seems like it could be a bit taxing to walk from the mound to the batter’s box.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Agree. In fact, I am not crazy about Ohtani hitting on days he pitches in general. Anything that takes away his focus from the mound when he is pitching is not good.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

No way you bat Marsh 2nd with our lineup. It is too important a spot and he is essentially unproven.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
8 months ago

What! no game today! No game today! Those nice young men in their clean white coats are coming to take ME away! No game today! I buy your tickets and buy your Beer and this is how you pay me back for all my kind unselfish deeds?! No Game Today! NO GAME TODAY!!!!

Just a little crazy added to a day with no GAME TODAY!!! 😬  😡  👽 

Last edited 8 months ago by GrandpaBaseball
RexFregosi
Super Member
8 months ago

seeing Albert in a red uniform today with a bat in his hand is giving me an anxiety attack

steelgolf
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I see him hit a slow roller to 3rd and it will upset me, until I remember he is doing it to kill the Cardinals.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

There is a reason one of his records is “Hit into the most Double Plays” of all time.

But I to had some laughs because of Albert when he caught pitchers asleep at the wheel and stole a base on them, now that was some funny stuff.

Cowboy26
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8 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

And setting a major league record every time.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I rarely can say that I hate someone, but if I did it would definitely be Albert. Did he really set all his MLB records in the steroid era without using them? Does anybody know for sure his real age? Do you agree with him that St. Louis has the most knowledgeable fans? Do you think Artie brought him in because Albert just wanted the money? Did being Hispanic have anything to do with selling more tix?

Albert Fin-flamed the Angels in my honorable and honest opinion. Picked Arte’s pockets for 150 million of the 250 million of his contract.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
8 months ago

Lying about your age is a * move, but Pujols is from a culture where that is common because it drastically improves your chances of being in the MLB and getting a high school education. It also doesn’t really hurt anyone other than the owners that sign players, and honestly, I think the Angels likely knew he was older when they signed him. I blame the MLB and MLBPA for letting players do this, not the players that do it.

I do blame players for taking steroids. The motivation is the same, but the consequences are far worse because it unfairly impacts those players who don’t cheat and will lead to college and high school players to taking drugs when it can impact their developing bodies in harmful ways. Since Pujols was from a culture that lies about their age and did so himself, there is definitely a chance that, being from a culture that takes drugs to get an edge ahead, he also did that. But, there is also a chance Pujols didn’t, and absent at least some evidence, I won’t assume the worst.

I do not blame or hate Pujols for taking the contract and sticking it out through the end. That is 100% on Arte.

The only thing I truly am disgruntled about is the fact that Pujols complained about being relegated to a limited role and then gladly stepped into such a role when the Dodgers came calling.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

He’s a roid-er, no 2 ways about it.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Fat ass!

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 months ago

Rengifo is off the roster. I can sleep.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Not off the roster just starting the season at Salt Lake City. Which, in his case, still has to be better than Caracas 😁

Last edited 8 months ago by Cowboy26
MarineLayer
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Bad choice of words, major league roster.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Like a red rubber ball, he’ll be bouncing back again.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I knew from the gate that he would not work out. He could not field, he could not hit, and at any time he could be deported. All he has really was speed but was only so-so with SB. Should have traded him a long time ago, but now his potential is very low as trade value.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago

Apparently the Dodgers thought otherwise. We sure missed the boat on that one.

RexFregosi
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

no surprises here

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I guess Spring cleaning includes getting rid of the Junk?

Last edited 8 months ago by Cowboy26
GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Funny Stuff.

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

We all gave you the opening for the easy joke, which you took.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I know you tend to always be gloomy, ML, but I’ve found that humor is the best therapy for being a fan of this team.

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I don’t think of it as gloomy, I’ve been a fan since ‘61 and I’m tired of seeing the same mistakes repeated over and over again. The ownership should do so much better for Trout/Ohtani.

red floyd
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Also means that the Halos will stop showing us pictures of their Junk.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Wantz is still an arm to watch. He was green last year, still young. Will probably be up and down the last couple of years.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

the next couple of years*

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Totally agree. his K/9 & K/BB numbers were excellent last year in his limited action. Here’s his best performance from last season. https://www.mlb.com/angels/video/andrew-wantz-stellar-in-relief

With the 9 man pen, I’m convinced the Angels will only carry 2 pitchers with options remaining and one of those will be Austin Warren who has been lights out. That means that short of an injury or DFA, The Angels will probably cycle alot of guys from Salt lake City ( Buttrey,Wantz,Herget, Marte, Ortega) through the one bullpen spot.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Guys who were late inning/high leverage over the last two years now riding the Salt Lake shuttle.

Well done, Perry.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Sweeping out the barn, housekeeping day.

admkir
Trusted Member
8 months ago

As streaky as hot pocket is and his bad defense, I would scarifies Walsh poor numbers against lefties just for his defense and not platoon him

Fansince1971
Legend
8 months ago

On the question of Season Ticket packaging – not surprisingly Arte cheaped out again. It’s basically a cardboard box which has a 20th anniversary of 2002 emblem. Inside was a very paltry photo book with mostly pictures of Ohtani and 2021 highlights.

And, get this, I had to pay an extra $100 to get the tickets printed. Otherwise they would have only been available digitally. For $100 they sent me the tickets that looked like they were printed on a dot matrix printer – no pictures on the tickets – no prices on the tickets.

That Mets thing is cool but it’s pretty unnecessary. That said there is a lot the Angels Org could have done for its season ticket holders between the sparce package it provided (requiring an extra $100 for printed tickets) and the Mets fancy ticket package.

The Mets communicated ‘we appreciate you’, the Angels communicated ‘we are doing the minimum possible’.

Last edited 8 months ago by Fansince1971
BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

When I purchased a suite last season for my 50th birthday if I wanted physical tickets I think it was going to be extra. They are clearly driving people to the MLB Ballpark app. Not ideal for all customers but I get it from a sustainability standpoint.

red floyd
Legend
8 months ago

I bought a suite this May for my graduation party. Wasn’t even given the option of printed tix. They just showed up in the app one day.

Twebur
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Mets just raised the bar for ticket boxes that’s all…In past years I’ve seen people post pictures of their newly arrived season ticket box and they all looked the same. Had ours, seen the Doyers box, probably made by the same company…It’s like everything else, everyone will copy the Mets…….except Arte, he’s a cheap bastard.

JackFrost
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Interesting. Yeah, the season tickets used to look really cool; large red and white ink on glossy thick paper stock with color pictures of a variety of players and poses. Really nice. Sorry to hear that Arte is screwing you like that.

Fansince1971
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Thanks Jack. I’ve already decided this is my last year of season tix.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
8 months ago

Just clicked over to Halos Heaven out of curiosity. Under the Masthead link, they still have all the old bios of the pre-firing crew that’s over here. Looks like there are only two people writing and no game writeups. A tragic joke of a website.

h27kim
Trusted Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Is there any grounds for CTPG staff to sue Vox for still having the bios on HH site? (I realize that several posters are lawyers). That just seems like at least irresponsible negligence that could lead to actual harm (since whatever that gets written there can be wrongly attributed).

Fansince1971
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

That is not a case to take on contingency since the damages are not really clear and are not likely to be valuable.

I suppose it could be litigated hourly but would Jeff or Jessica want to spend say $5,000?

Best situation would be for the impacted CTPG staff to send a letter to Vox requesting their names be removed from the masthead.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Thanks.

Honestly I didn’t even know we were still listed until a couple of weeks ago. My agent contact at Ballengee asked if Jessica was still writing for HH because he hadn’t seen her byline in forever.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Maybe Arte knows a good lawyer.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Yep. Jessica and I have both been contacted about setting things related to HH.

RexFregosi
Super Member
8 months ago

can’t stand Molly Knight – hope she loses –

nice to see she’s not at The Athletic any longer too.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Great, so Trevor Bauer was impugned and lost his shot at a humanitarian award because it was misreported that he might have broke his sex partner/punching bag’s skull during their last encounter.

Poor guy. I feel so sorry for him.

RexFregosi
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

both are the worst of LA and both bad examples of human beings

Funny how both are home alone and unemployed too.

Coincidence?

Last edited 8 months ago by RexFregosi
GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Do I feel sorrow for Trevor Bauer? The answer is yes I do. To be turned on by beating up a women just to get off seems to me to be an affliction of some sort. I am not even sure there is enough counseling to fix that. What a true nightmare to have to live with.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  RexFregosi

Molly is just yet another example of something I think parents maybe just don’t push much anymore. My parents (and I’m not THAT old) and probably a lot of our parents always emphasized that I should wait and see on any spicy issue and NEVER loudly proclaim some hot position on anything, even if I have initial strong feelings. It seemed like, back in my day… say 2004… there were far far fewer instances where people in general came out with instant “He’s just like a murdering rapist Nazi terrorist literbug and he needs to die!” positions.

Just in the last 3 years I can think of about 20 examples of something where I read/heard/saw something and had initial feelings about it and THEN, usually slowly as actual facts started seeping out, I realized my initial thoughts were a bit or even a lot off base. Thankfully I didn’t blabber a bunch of crap about the people involved and what should happen to them all over social media… or a major news publication… or cable news network. Even if I turn out to be 100% right, it’s better to just STFU and see how things develop than be the guy who wears out a soap box every month.

Bauer’s kink is sure not mine. I have known women who like to be hit while duvet wrestling. Hell, there are people out there online volunteering themselves to be killed and eaten by other people. As a concept I think all of that stuff’s a bit wrong. But it’s not my place to light up people for doing consensual stuff. Molly can think what she wants, maybe even publish some lame tweets, but she should have shown some restraint.

But hell, we live in a world where it seemed like 80% of people changed their social media icon to a Ukrainian flag overnight when 80% of those people couldn’t find it on a map much less explain what the conflict is over or the shared history of the two countries the day before. I doubt displays of outrage are going anywhere.

Twebur
Super Member
8 months ago

The Jussie Smollett’ing of todays modern world.

Cowboy26
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

So you’re saying she should really change her name to Molly Hatchet-Job?

red floyd
Legend
8 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Then she’d really be flirting with disaster.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
8 months ago

Vox still doesn’t get it. A new site CTPG started to fill a hole that they created with an unsuccessful business model. Having Harris cover 2 sites that are very different just couldn’t work out. We will not care to much what becomes of Vox, but they asked for whatever becomes of their 2 sites. GO CTPG’S 7 GO ANGELS!!!!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I don’t think VOX cares if those SBNation sites succeed. They were part of a larger acquisition. When the California freelance labor bill came into existence they just let some of the Cali sites die on the vine.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
8 months ago

The mass email they sent firing us all seemed very sincere, though.

steelgolf
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

New Yorkers are known world wide for their sincerity.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
8 months ago

I like the Walsh platoon. Improves the lineup against lefties and opens up outfield spots for Marsh or Adell those days.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

I just recommend we get a someone who can play the position and with no on the job training. We saw how Puljos killed the infielders with his lack of digging out tough throws. Need someone who can pick it.

Last edited 8 months ago by FungoAle
matthiasstephan
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Has Walsh been bad defensively?

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
8 months ago

No, he has been great with the leather.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago

My comment was aimed at when Walsh not starting due to a left hander. We don’t have a right hand hitting true 1st baseman to platoon with. Joe Perry is experimenting with Upton and possibly Duffy to play out of position and take first.

In the outfield, you can kind of get away with a subpar defender but and some managers, think anyone can play first. Like the city softball fields where you put the big slow guy. LOL. Having a vacuum at first and short is paramount.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I’ll go on to note, in 2021, the Angels were 2nd to last in Team Defensive Efficiency and below average in Team Fielding Percentage.

Twebur
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

A lot of guys plugging holes with all the injuries last year. Ward, Rojas, Goose, Rengifo and others playing out of position while already not being very good with the glove.

With that said, our defense should be solid if we ever stay healthy.
Except, who ever platoons with Walsh at first.

FungoAle
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Let’s sure hope so. I’m of the, “prove it” mentality. Let’s revisit this next off-season. Health certainly should not be worse. With that leaky of a defense, we’ll finish outside the ‘expanded’ post season.

Playing out of position is a form of organizational malpractice.

MarineLayer
Super Member
8 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I think he should start every day. Even if a lefty starts, a righty will probably finish, given 2 times through the order for almost every pitcher these days. Just move him down the lineup on those days. See Joe, it’s that easy.

jco
Member
jco
8 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

I agree. It seems that Ward would be a better choice to try at first than Upton. Ward’s only played a few pro games at 1B, but he’s played a fair amount at 3B (albeit poorly) and at Catcher. Walsh’s numbers against lefties are really bad (.170/.208/.357 in 182AB last year) and some lefties never learn to hit LHP. I’d much rather have Walsh on the bench as a weapon against a right handed reliever than starting against a lefty.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

I like it too. The platoon’s a good idea. If Upton hits it will be a REALLY good idea.