LA Angels Tuesday News Crash:

The Angels are interested in Robbie Ray but he is now signed with the Mariners for five years and $115 Million. He can opt out after the third year. Michael Lorenzen is getting $7 Million for playing for the Angels next year.

It looks like Max Scherzer is going to the Mets for a few years.

Kevin Gausman is going to the Toronto Blue Jays for five years.

Jon Gray is going to the Rangers for four years.

Corey Seager signed with the Rangers for ten years at $325 Million.

Matthew Boyd is set to become a free agent today.

Brooks Raley will sign with the Rays. The free agent left hander gets two years with an option.

Alex Cobb is finalizing a deal with the San Francisco Giants.

The Marlins extended Sandy Alcantara. The deal is five years for $56 Million.

Darren O’Day has a minor league deal with the Atlanta Braves. Kirby Yates has a back loaded two year deal with those same Braves.

Marcell Ozuna received a 20 day domestic violence suspension which the league made retroactive.

Here is a glimpse of the expanded playoffs format that is under discussion in the CBA negotiations.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

Since Minasian whiffed on getting one of top starters, maybe he can call San Francisco and ask them who was on their bargain basement list after Cobb.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Watching that video I only had a couple take aways. One, “The Irish Panda” is a dope nickname. Two, the Angels 80s uniforms are way cooler than the ones we have now. We should bring back the dark blue and usher in a new era of uni-luck. And that’s it. All that stuff about him being good can’t be true because he came through our system and developed the ability to seem good under our current umbrella of evil.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I have the feeling the looming CBA squabble isn’t preventing FOs from signing FAs.

So Thor, Loup, Lorenzen and Iglesias so far….. I bet they were haggling with Raisel this whole time. He didn’t seem to milk the market much.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

OK, screw Stroman. Go sign me Kwang-Hyun Kim, Tyler Anderson, Jonathan Villar and some pile of Nick Wittgren, Chasen Shreve, Blake Parker, Colin McHugh, Jimmy Nelson, Mark Melancon, Archie Bradley, Corey Knebel types and let’s just roll with Thaiss as a back up catcher.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

That’s a solid plan. When the options at SPs are limited, build the pen and sign the Andersons and Kim type who can pitch effective starter innings.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  FungoAle

Also Correa or Story… just kidding.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

Sure you are

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Honestly, if you have to choose one or the other, I’d prefer padding the pen with solid experienced arms over Stroman.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  h27kim

It’s still just a 25 man roster. If the strategy is to sign more one-inning relief pitchers than guys who can pitch four or five innings effectively, you better hope the guys you sign still have minor league options.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

Nice plan but most of those relievers are now gone

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 year ago

I’m feeling better about the season tonight. One more, Perry. One more.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

Angels and Iglesias agree to 4 year $58 million deal. Budget is n/a.

Last edited 1 year ago by Fansince1971
h27kim
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

So, where are we budget wise now? I figure that we are near if not past the iiwpm limits?

Marshallx89
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  h27kim

I read that this put us up to $185m. I don’t think this included arb raises

red floyd
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

4/58? I guess we’re out on Wilson.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

We had to do this and I’m glad we did.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Cowboy26

We need to find out how Arte hid all the evil nefarious evilness from Raisel so he could trick him into staying so we can do the same to Shohei…
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Mia
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Mia
1 year ago

The Duo of Loup and Iglesias should be a solid pitch to any starting pitcher meeting going forward.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

Those plus Lorenzen out of the pen makes me feel a lot better. I was not thrilled with the idea of Warren being thrust into an 8th inning (or high leverage role), even if I think he is good. Also gives time to see if our 20+ pitcher haul has some arms that can help in 2022 – without needing them to.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Dude, they didn’t even mince words on it. Lorenzen has said for years he wants to start. The Angels said they’d start him. Lorenzen said he signed here because we’ll start him. He’s not going to the pen any time soon no matter how many comments we type out saying that he is or should.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I also don’t think it’s a coincidence that we signed him after hiring that Axelrod guy off the Reds/Driveline. There was probably some sort of excitement brewing while watching video of the guy.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

I’m sure the video excitement mirrors the orgasmic delight displayed by the FO when Ward was available for Ric Wilson to draft…. 😆

steelgolf
Super Member
1 year ago

Ahhhh, the gif that keeps on giffing.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Just don’t stop building the bullpen. We need better bridge guys to the 9th. We don’t want to be stuck with Joe being Cishek back.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  FungoAle

Maybe Arte can convince Stroman to sign a month-to-month deal, and then Barria can slide to the bullpen as the bridge to Raisel

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Atminimum, a good RH setup guy (maybe a converted starter? Lorenzen was pretty good as a reliever earlier in his career, even if not quite conventional, if I remember right ..but I guess he has been tentatively slated for the rotation in principle.).

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  h27kim

Yeah, another accomplished RH to pound the zone, with an out pitch would be nice. I’d take a flyer on a couple more guys still out there. Maybe those guys non-tendered today.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Mia

So we’re stuck with a bunch of pitchers who just have stuff instead of grit and championship talent. Way to go CheapnEvil. I bet Syndergaard has stuff too. 2022 is going to be worse than 2021. I’m sad and mad because mad makes sad.

Mia
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Mia
1 year ago

Cheer up, pal. It’s gonna be ok.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Mia

You’re just saying that. But there is never going to be a solid follow up to Game of Thrones, Chuck Taylors will never be comfortable again and the Angels will never do anything good. Now my mascara is running all over my SemiSonic t-shirt!

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago

Ask your doctor today if Prozac is right for you.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Mia

I’m a Lexapro man myself. I prefer the totally unfeeling robot rout myself.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago

Same. But i’ve been re-watching The Sopranos so Prozac is on the mind.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

Try feeding some ducks.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Mia

Jordan sezs ‘ludes are best….

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JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago

Where’s “the Lemon ?”

rspencer
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

Bourbon is more effective and does not mess up the chi.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  rspencer

The hangover is an absolute bitch tho

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Glad to see this happen. Now just get a real #2 SP so that Raisel can pitch in high leverage situations.

Christianhanson
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Free-agent reliever Raisel Iglesias closing in on four-year contract with Angels, sources tell @TheAthletic
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I dig it!! I like the four years at a less AAV hopefully
Jeff won’t like this lol

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

I love this!

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago

WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Whoa, 4-yrs?! Risky. Well, go get 2 more bullpen arms leading up to the 9th.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

That’s future Perry’s problem

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Mia

You mean the replacement of the replacement for Perry

BushLeague
Member
1 year ago

Yes!!!

LAAFan
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Thank God, I needed something to prove Arte wasn’t straight up laughing in our faces.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

Do you really think there was another bidder? Especially at 4 years?

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Year four might have been what got it done

2pints
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I have no doubt there were at last a couple other teams willing to give him 3 years. I’m happy we went to 4 if thats what it took to keep him. He’s been legit his entire career.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  Cowboy26

Unlikely. I’m glad it happened, but if the deal is more than 4/60, we’re not getting Stroman.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

At this point I don’t know. Arte’s obviously expanded the payroll, so who knows how much he’s willing to spend? Probably not 230M or something, but it’ll be more than 180M by a fair stretch.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

With Raisel’s deal, we’ve got to be above $180M including arb projections

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I think we’re actually still just shy of it 21+7+7+15 = 50… nope, we’re just over that 45-47M. But we are most likely not done spending, at least on some sort of arms and a SS.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Cowboy26

Well, I don’t know. Were any other teams looking for a closer? The only people who thought their team was getting this guy for “two years…. maybe three…” were commenting on this website.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Look, it was about time we gave a worthy pitcher a multi-year deal.

Quality is worth the multi-year deals. You just don’t want to give those deals to the Dark Knights and Dylan Bundy’s of the world.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
1 year ago

So let’s say they do get Correa. Then you need to throw the chips in and trade some prospects for Castillo. I’d roll with those two pieces and what we have – and some smaller moves. If we are in contention, stock up some more at the deadline.

Marshallx89
Member
1 year ago

Surprising no tender for Richard Rodriguez from the Braves. Seems like a no brainer the Angels should jump on that.

Last edited 1 year ago by Marshallx89
Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Marshallx89

I’d also jump on Velasquez from the Dodgers

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Oh yeah. The other ex-Pirate they released, Edgar Santana. I’d hop on Rodriguez, Velasquez and Santana now for pen depth. Add them to Warren, Mayer, Loup, a closer like Melancon, etc etc…. not big names, but I think we could do a lot worse.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Marshallx89

Rich Rod’s K/9 went in the toilet the minute he reached Atlanta. (7.7 K/9 vs 3.1 K/9) But still, from the trade deadline to September 5 his numbers were still stellar 17 games, 1 HR 1.08 ERA and a .84 WHIP. .472 OPS against

Unfortunately after September 5th he was awful. Like worse than cheese shit quality awful: 10 games 5 HR’s 6.75 ERA 1.50 WHIP 1.163 OPS against.

I have no velocity data for this period but I suspect it wasn’t very good.

red floyd
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Marshallx89

We need to increase the number of our Rodriguii.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ok, no huge impact. Goose was a little stiff in the field.

BushLeague
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

The Goose has been loosed

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
1 year ago

Just not realistic to have 3 35 mil a year players. Correa being a cheater won’t be coming here.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

So how about having 4 $35 Mil/year players? Cuz Next Year Arte’s going to have to “Shohei Da Money”

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

The Braves just dumped Richard Rodriguez. Unless he’s hurt I’d totally sign him and his dipping peripherals as a pen arm.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 year ago

I’d sign him tonight

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Heck yeah! What is not to like about a minuscule WHIP. I did not follow him too close last year but stats seemed to dip with the Braves a bit. Maybe they did not use him right.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  FungoAle

Ex-Pirate, so I sorta know him. He’s good, but I am a little scared because Atlanta just traded for him, then let him go, and they aren’t stupid. But for 2-4M? I’d roll the dice.

Actually, I forget who, but the Braves let another fairly good pen arm walk a few weeks ago too…

Last edited 1 year ago by gitchogritchoffmypettis
FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Yeah, your right, what do the Braves know.

Marshallx89
Member
1 year ago

100%

Brent
Super Member
1 year ago

10 years ago today we got rid of recent WS champ Jeff Mathis.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  Brent

And nothing has gone right since.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

Now that is some premium insight.

Last edited 1 year ago by Cowboy26
Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

That’s why they pay me the big bucks.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

For amusement I looked at the 2002 roster, looking for who left and who arrived, to see if I could find a “curse”. In the course of this I noted that Brad Fullmer was gone by 2004 and then quickly out of baseball. But what shocked me is that Fullmer is barely older than Albert.

Or maybe even younger, haha. Seriously, Fullmer is 46.

rspencer
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Fullmer left it all on the Angel Stadium infield. I love the guy.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago

Lebron is quite the touchy subject, I guess!

My bad.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

Sorry. I tried to explain your point and created a tangent.

It was a really good comparison I thought.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

It’s all good. 😊

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

Wow am I dreaming or did I somehow stumble onto Laker nation?

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

 🤔 

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Mia

You just don’t tell people anything you dislike about their Lord and Savior LeBraun OR their personal spirit animal, the Purple Tony Robins himself, martyred saint of all those who like to describe their own hustle to people, Kobe.

It’s better to just say you don’t follow the NBA if you don’t like the Lakers in SoCal, even if LeBraun is the Jeter of travel ball.