Mariners win, stay alive

Scoreless through two and a half, somehow Jhonathan Diaz versus Chris Flexen turned into a pitchers duel early. Could it have something to do with anemic batting? Mitch Haniger singled in the bottom of the third to score Ty France. 1-0 Seattle.

The fourth inning was also scoreless. Seattle did get a couple of men on base, but they didn’t exactly display any urgency to make it to the postseason. Boston won today, but the Yankees lost horribly. The road to the wild card remained open for Seattle. Jose (“The Hero”) Rojas hit a homer, though, in the top of the fifth to tie the game up. Luis Rengifo then golfed a single to center and David Fletcher(!!!) also singled to put a man on first and third with one out and a tie game. Regrettably, Brandon Marsh hit into a double play to kill this rally.

Mitch Haniger hit a two run homer to score Ty France in the fifth inning. 3-1 Seattle. (Now they show some urgency.) Kyle Seager also doubled to chase Jhonathan Diaz from the game. For once, I do not contest a Joe Maddon pitching change. In defense of Diaz though, he had only given up one run in four innings. Obviously, the Mariners suddenly figured him out. Andrew Wantz got his chance to shut down the Mariners but he didn’t exactly have his best stuff. He got through his three batters without allowing any more runs.

Shohei Ohtani drew a lead off walk to lead off the sixth inning. It’s not a homer but, let’s face it, a walk is a man on base. Gosselin couldn’t do anything but Walsh hit safely to advance the runner. Bye bye Chris Flexen! Sadler came in to pitch and retired Stassi and Mayfield.

Austin Warren relieves Wantz and pitches 1.1 scoreless innings. In the eighth, Marsh and Ohtani walk before Jared Walsh launches a huge three-run homer to put the Angels up. That ball was demolished.

Steve Cishek loads the bases and then gives up a two-run single to Mitch Haniger.

Kyle Seager singles in another run. The Angels lose.

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Fansince1971
Super Member
1 month ago

Cishek is a perfect example why ERA is a meaningless stat for relievers. Most of the runs he has allowed have been inherited runners so they don’t count against his ERA. By just looking at ERA you’d say he is pretty decent at 3.42. But that really doesn’t tell the tale.

The better stats to look at are his RE24 (1.2) and WHIP (1.50). The former is low average, and the latter is piss-poor. Put them together and Cishek is a way below average reliever and not suited to a close-and-late situation.

Cowboy26
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

BTW Cheese shit’s ER’s (26) is equal to his IBS (26) so at least he’s been consistent.

But in order for him to deceive batters he ends up giving up too many walks. The dude cannot control the location of his pitches which has led to his highest amount of walks and HBP by far this season. There is absolutely NOTHING redeemable about his stats that should allow him to pitch any leveraged MLB innings. His existence on our roster is clear proof of the lack of MLB caliber relief pitchers on this team that needs to be rectified next year or this team will suck again and again and again. It is not that difficult to figure out.

Fansince1971
Super Member
1 month ago

I’m still pissed at Cishek. Even after sleeping on it.

Fansince1971
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

He’s a c—-s——r!

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admkir
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Hopefully last night was the end of the bromance between Maddon and Cishek, but I would also add our broadcast team for jinxing the game by celebrating the win after the Walsh hr with 6 Mariner outs to go.

Fansince1971
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  admkir

Many would say the team showed fight. The broadcast booth certainly would. But when your 8th inning guy is Cishek, and it’s a close-and-late situation, the reality is that the Angels odds are not good. Now, if they had gotten to the 9th with a lead, that’s a different story.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Once the season ends today, I’m wondering where some of the group here will be going to spew the hate, disappointment and discontent. I’m suggesting that the CTPG masthead post the schedule of school board meetings within a fifty mile radius of the Big A. This way an outlet for the venom will have been defined.

Thanks in advance!

AllenB
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I went to sleep early and missed the Walsh homer. Also missed the inevitable meltdown of Cishek. Good to see him allowing his own runners to score. And by the way, I HATE THE MARINERS, THEIR FANS AND THEIR DUMBASS ANNOUNCERS!!

bradllee424
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  AllenB

I agree, these Mariner fans are ridiculous. They aren’t even in the playoffs and have to win at least 2 more games to get in if Bos and NY don’t win today. The fans were all out celebrating like they just won a W.S. Title. Spare me Mariner fans, if you want to see what winning a W.S. championship looks like I will send you my 2002 W.S. DVD.

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bradllee424
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Dumb unless you are in the World Series.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  AllenB

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H.T. Ennis
Admin
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  AllenB

With all due respect, why are you watching the Mariners broadcast? It is a local broadcast that is mainly for local fans. There’s no point in trashing it when you are not their target audience and their fans ostensibly seem to love it.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

I cannot blame the Mariners fans at all. I’m pretty sure Angel fans would be equally as excited knowing that we are mathematically still alive at game 161 after a late inning comeback rally. That late inning hit results in outgassing a lot of angst into excitement.

bradllee424
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

They would not be honking their horns thinking they just won the W.S. I get that fans can be enthusiastic but Mariner fans have nothing yet to really be enthusiastic about. Until they actually reach a W.S. they are nothing more than a second class team.

Fansince1971
Super Member
1 month ago

Okay I’ll say it. Cishek is an embarrassment. And if there ever was a time it showed it’s tonight. Walsh hits a clutch 3 run bomb. And then Cishek. He should be embarrassed. I am embarrassed for him. And for this organization that employs a POS like him. Thank you for listening.

Fansince1971
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

HBP then a walk after your offense gives you the lead. He should be DFA’d tomorrow.

Fansince1971
Super Member
1 month ago

Okay Gitcho. Cishek. 12 words or less.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Gitch with less than 12 words?

What you smoking?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Fansince1971

We
may
still
end
up
with
him
next
year.
herpes.

Fansince1971
Super Member
1 month ago

You had 2 words left!

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago

Is herpes the new nickname for Cishek?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  steelgolf

No, Cishek is the new name for herpes.

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago

🤣

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

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Mia
Super Member
Mia
1 month ago

The silence in that stadium when Walsh hit one was deafening.

H.T. Ennis
Admin
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

that was a fun moment!

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

Matty V pee’d his pants.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Walsh told the Bat Boy to give him the lucky bat. The Bat Boy asked which one is that?

Walsh: It’s the one that says Bad Mother Fucker on it.

Mia
Super Member
Mia
1 month ago

The swag!!

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
1 month ago

Even though I’m on team tank, I wanted to win tonight since we have no chance at a top 10 pick with KC and Colorado losing today. We sit at 13 and can only get to 12.

Let’s win tomorrow!

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

But I am not sure what happens if we tie Detroit and or the Mets. Better lose to be safe.

Sportsdominator23
Newbie
1 month ago

First time poster, longtime lurker from Halos Heaven switched over to Crashing the Pearly Gates. Time for the Angels to change course and let Shohei Ohtani pitch tomorrow. Let your best player for 2021 get his 10th win and eliminate the Mariners from the Playoffs. He’ll be able to enjoy the Playoff atmosphere that he’ll miss out on from the mound and cement himself as this year’s MVP. Leave no doubt who the MVP is and that is Shohei Ohtani.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

That really should happen. Shohei could have pitched tonight. Don’t really care about his 10th win, he’s MVP already, but if you wanted to win, he’s throwing.

H.T. Ennis
Admin
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

he would be one day short of his normal rest. also, he hasn’t pitched on his normal six days rest since like mid-august

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

He pitched last Saturday, no?

H.T. Ennis
Admin
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

no

Sportsdominator23
Newbie
1 month ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

He pitched last Sunday Sept. 26th, so if he pitches on Sunday Oct. 3rd he’ll be pitching on 1 extra day of rest. I think Shohei has earned the shot to pitch if he feels like pitching. Leave it up to him. He’s just going to get pitched around, might as well close it out on the mound and end Seattle’s season. Get Seattle back for their 1995 collapse to them. And yes he should be MVP regardless of ending most likely with 9 wins.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

Got it, should have checked. He should have thrown. I heard he opted out vs managerial decision. Any truth to that?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

That would be fun, and I like fun.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
1 month ago

I’m depressed. Well…I’ll get over it soon enough.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

LoL…it’s game 161 and Angels have been out of it for two months. Take a walk around the block and come back for a Jaeger Bomb.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
1 month ago

I won the over on Fletcher!

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago

He needs a hit today, in the last game, to hit my prediction of 2 hits.

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago

At least that wanker Sewald got lit up. Go throw your glove off the space needle, punk

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago

Do we start IBB’ing sunovaMitch?

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I would. Take his bat out of the game just as they do to Ohtani. Then when The Angels win and eliminate The Mariners, it will give their fanbase something to complain about the entire offseason.

Christianhanson
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Gubie’s optimism this year has really made me insane, dude needs a lil dose of reality sometimes lol.

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago

OMG. Gubi has kicked ass this year. I used to be a total anti-Gubi guy but he really has stepped up this year. Really, dude?

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

How did he do better? Same ol same ol to my ears. Non-critical analyst. Great guy, I like him personally, would thrown down Ales with him but just not insightful to me.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  FungoAle

Eh. You gotta go with the meh you know. You really want a wank shit color man on your broadcast team? I think Victor did well…. and did well to go the f*** away when he did.

It’s like good comedians. They are super funny and super insightful till enough people tell them they are “a voice” and “sticking it too the man” or what ever important attachable BS…. then they become recent Colbert, John Stewert, Patton Oswald…. Victor isn’t a pathetic applause chaser so he said his piece, and left before his points got dull.

Gubi may be a bit golden but better that than having to listen to “cool bitter suburban punk kid in the back of the class” for 162 games and there’s a strong chance any guy will become that if you pat him on the back for being “edgy” and “critical” instead of, you know, doing his job.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

He doesn’t really bother me, too much but would like a little bit of critique when it is required. Something like, “he should have caught that ball.” If a player took a bad route or shrike late. Victor used to call out Upton for shitty defensive play. but not Gubi. That seems backwards. I did become more of a fan of Gubi when he was paired with Sutton., the latter was painful.

Most baseball color analysts refrain from being too negative as they share the same bus and plane. Remember about 4 years ago, the Eckersley and David Price feud. Price went way over the top on Dennis who was critical about one of the young starters. But if nothing else, I like color analysts to tell me something I don’t know.

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Gubi is more critical of the pitching than the fielding. Speaks from experience. Lots of times he says ‘I wouldn’t have thrown that pitch there’ or talks about the sequence that allowed a batter to hit a home run.

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago

Yep, this is why I like having Gubi, he brings that pitching insight to the game.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

I sure don’t hear that. It’s a rarity I guess to my ears. An analyst should represent and comment every facet of the game. Hey, I like Gub, cool guy. Just not gonna kick down your door with insight. He’s not gonna anywhere.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

You see with Gubi…he’s bought and paid for. He plays nice.

Fansince1971
Super Member
1 month ago

I think Gubi does a good job. With the merry-go-round of pxp guys this year, he has been a constant. That’s not easy to do. I give him a lot of credit.

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