Angels battle Southsiders, win 3-2

What’s left of the Angels took on the AL Central leading Chicago White Sox and

Jansen Junk got his second MLB start and flashed some decent stuff early


The Angels struck first, getting a 1-0 lead on a Phil Gosselin single in the top of the third that plated Luis Rengifo.

The day wasn’t over for the newly single Rengifo. He played like a man not wanting to go home and punched in Brandon Marsh with a sacrifice fly.

It wasn’t all smooth sailing for Junk, though. He served up this massive bomb in the bottom of the 5th to make it a 2-1 game.

After that the parade of relievers began. Quijada escaped the 5th with no more damage but a guy cut by the Rangers gave up his required run to knot the game at 2 all heading to the 7th.

Mike Meyers was dominant in the 7th, shutting down the Sox in order.

The real standout of the game for the Angels was Brandon Marsh. He showed off his wheels on an infield single early in the game then hit this clutch home run in the 8th to stake the Angels to a 3-2 lead.

D-cell came in and worked his way around a leadoff double fir the save. Light up the Halo, Angels win 3-2.

And enjoy this play again as I can’t delete it on my phone.


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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Twebur

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Junk n Marsh are today’s rays of sunshine. Just keep counting them up, maybe we can have a hot summer next year.

If Cishek’s ERA drops below 3 do I have to stop hating him?

Here’s a fun idea. If we tell Upton this winter Adell’s gonna start ahead of him think he’d be down for a trade? If so, we’d have to eat some of his money, but maybe we could trade him for a busted yet expensive pitcher. Are there any expensive pitchers out there that anybody thinks might be worth the gamble? A bouncy bounce back guy?

Cowboy26
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2 years ago

Will you not hate Cishek next year when we resign him in the offseason to defend his IRS crown?

Relative to J Downer do you really think there is a team out there that would want him if we ate some of his contract? Maybe if the new collective bargaining agreement has a minimum team payroll requirement maybe he becomes a hot commodity to the tanker teams so they can make the minimum without a long term commitment?

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Re: Cishek. Exactly. I’ve never had a problem with his ERA, it’s his IRS.

Twebur
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Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

some fun numbers (ha! not really)

IRS %
Cishek 41%
Claudio 38% (and he’s gone)
Guerra 46%
Hoyt 83% (yikes! 5 of 6)
Mayers 45%
Petricka 57%
Quijada 44%
Selman 56%
Slegers 62%
Wantz 41%
Iglesias 22%
Warren 14%
Watson 9% (2 of 23)

league average is 35%

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Ah. I was just asking about this and you plopped it down! So he’s still pretty dang high. I can hate him.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Does he still have the IRS crown? It won’t surprise me if he still has the highest number of runs, he has got to be close to the league lead in inherited runners as well. But is he still kind of the % allowed to score hill? I haven’t checked. It’s hard to have a high IRS number go up and lower your ERA, but maybe he has? Or is my hate based on two months ago?

VladimirTrout27
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2 years ago

IRS award should be called the Bedrock award.

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2 years ago

It’s not that hard to have a high IRS go up and lower your ERA. Inherited runners who score never count against your ERA, and if the IR scored via a ground out or a sac fly, there are now no runners in scoring position and you have one more out on the scoreboard than when you started, making it easier to escape the inning without any of your runners scoring.

Which is why ERA is a terrible stat. It doesn’t accurately report how a pitcher has been performing. tERA is the only stat that tells you exactly how a pitcher performed with regards to his role in allowing a run to score.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Yeah, I get that. But usually guys with high IRS have fairly higher ERAs than 3.00 because it’s rare for a guy to always be hittable JUST until the guy on 2nd scores and then suddenly become really good… but Cishek has found that suck magic.

Twebur
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Tanker Teams get into a bidding war for JUP’s contract!
https://youtu.be/SqqGFoASs9s

Fansince1971
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2 years ago

So totally unpopular opinion here so I’m prepared. But part of me thinks you trade Ohtani while the value is extremely high. Chances of a repeat season are very low and we have seen what happens when he gets cold.

Other option is pat him $20 million next year and potentially $30 million

I’m torn but it’s an idea generated from the idea of sell high.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Fansince1971

Why would we pay him 20M next year? Unless we extend him…

matthiasstephan
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2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

You don’t trade the MVP because he has a ‘bad’ 2 (or even 6) weeks (hitting at a level still leading the team in most categories). That is extremely pessimistic, and would sour not only the fanbase but the players too.

You couldn’t recoup nearly his value. This is the ‘Trade Mike Trout’ discussion all over again. Just pay Ohtani – we keep him forever.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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But he’ll be a free agent in three years. And I hear his favorite player growing up was Derek Jeter.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago

Isn’t he a free agent after 2023? I’m not saying give him away. I’m saying get big value from him after this historic season. I realize it’s unpopular but sometimes against the grain can work out.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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2024? I think. Honestly, I am not against trading anybody…. as long as it works. Trout was the first and only player I have not wanted to trade, and that was because in 60 years the team had never had its Musial/Brett/Gwynn type player and Trout can be ours. But I wouldn’t have been totally miffed even if we traded him if it got us 3 good starters and four good position players in the long run.

Same with Shohei. I’d love to keep him, but I’d love to dominate the Mariners, Dodgers, Yankees and Red Sox even more. A big balls move like trading him would be something I’d have to watch play out.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago

Exactly. We’ve had a consistent MVP in Trout and what has it gotten the team. Ohtani is wonderful and amazing. But what has it gotten the team. I’m at the point of relative desperation. With the right package of players, I would trade Ohtani. The team has so many holes that if they could fill a couple trading one player, I might seriously consider it. The only guy on the roster who would generate that would be Ohtani.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Last year at this time I checked and Ohtani had around a 45 trade value on the simulator. Now it’s approaching 180. My point is if there was ever a time it’s now.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago
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For example- Padres get Ohtani and Angels get Abrams, Campusano, Grisham and Musgrove. Angels fill holes at catcher, SS and pitching and have an extra stud OF to trade for additional top pitching.

matthiasstephan
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2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Ok, I see what you want to do, but I just don’t think it works. Musgrove replaces Ohtani’s pitching (maybe) over the same time they are under contract.

But Abrams isn’t ready to step in at SS – his timeline is the same as our prospects – so we would be, potentially, upgrading for the future (leaving the hole at SS).

A long term (even maybe next year) C would be nice, but not worth sending away Ohtani’s bat for.

Grisham is not as good of an OF as we have on the roster, so wouldn’t compete for playing time. He would have to be traded.

So, it all comes down to does upgrading (for the future) SS and C, plus whatever you can get for Grisham – justify trading Ohtani.

Remember, Ohtani does all of this with one roster spot. That is value.

(Also, I am not sure San Diego trades a SP they just acquired and two top prospects for Ohtani – but maybe they jump at it, I don’t know).

Fansince1971
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2 years ago

Not even sure I want to do it – but Ohtani’s trade value probably has never been higher and the Angels have so many holes!

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2002heaven
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2 years ago
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Just wouldn’t trade him to the Big 3 ( Dodgers, Yankees, RS or Houston ) Mets, Cardinals, Cubs, Nationals, Braves, Giants, Phillies, all National League teams that can afford him.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago

How about Ohtani to Toronto for Bichette and Manoah?

matthiasstephan
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2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I don’t get it. We trade one star for two guys – even if Bichette’s bat isn’t as good as Ohtani’s, and Manoah’s arm isn’t as good as Ohtani’s.

He is better on both sides than the replacement players. You only pay him once, with one roster spot. Why would you do it?

Do you have enough faith that Bichette and Manoah will improve on their numbers? While at the same time believing Ohtani can only decline?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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It’s possible Ohtani will not win the MVP. He’s slumping offensively at absolutely the wrong time of year.

H.T. Ennis
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2 years ago
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🤔

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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With Trout injured, we could finally receive equivelent forward value for him. I’m not advocating trading him, but Ohtani pitching for the Angels going forward excites me more than Trout in his 30’s.

WallyChuckChili
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2 years ago

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Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago

meanwhile, down on the farm….

Cristopher Molina, pitching for Rocket City, 8 IP, 1 hit, 0 runs, 11 Ks, 2 walks.

Molina finishes the year 10-3, 3.69 for first Tri-Cities, then Rocket City. Perhaps a name to remember. He’s 24 now, started out in the system 7 years ago as a 17 year old.

red floyd
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2 years ago

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Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago

71-74 with a bunch of AA and AAA guys. Joe Maddon for Mgr of the Year

Twebur
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2 years ago

Got give them credit, they play hard, don’t seem intimidated, they bounce back after getting their ass kicked the night before. High team Grit factor.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago

Great HR by Marsh and well timed. Sad to say Trouty may lose CF job and move to RF.

DowningDude
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2 years ago

Will Trout ever play again?

Twebur
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2 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Who?

Jim Atkins
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2 years ago

Need to take the wear and tear off those legs. RF is OK by me. Marsh in center, Adell in left.

Twebur
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Can make the switch day 1 in Spring training. Lots of time for Trout to get acclimated.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I’d imagine he’d even practice before March if a switch is in the works. They’d almost certainly talk to him ahead of time. If he’s OK to move to LF (his arm is weaker than Adell’s) it changes the off season as he becomes the CF2 (with Adell CF3) and we’d be more likely to keep Upton as a back up and maybe get another guy who can play corner OF but not hunt down a CF back up.

Se he could start shagging balls at the Big A in November if he wants.

Twebur
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2 years ago

November? He ain’t got time for that…….. it’s football season.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

You want to get him off his feet? Lets get fat boy a fat boy.
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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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1B. Move Walsh to the OF.

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago

one of these days Gump will reach the 2nd row of seats!

DowningDude
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2 years ago

He is the JE king

2002heaven
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2 years ago
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Trout’s gained a lot of weight.
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MarineLayer
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2 years ago

I prefer barely over to warning track.

DowningDude
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2 years ago

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WallyChuckChili
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2 years ago

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John Henry Weitzel
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2 years ago

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